Sean Kelly Interview: Untold Larry June Stories from Label Co-Founder

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Met him at four years old. Like me and him. So that was right when he moved to Atlanta, then I guess, right? That's right when he moved. Yeah, from the bay. Yeah, yeah. Uh I remember we Larry was in my kindergarten class. And then uh one time I seen him, I didn't even know he lived in my neighborhood yet, but I knew he was in my class. And then we were all we were out, we we were out in the neighborhood, and uh I seen him, he was riding a bike, he was hitting wheelies on a bike. I was like, with no training wheels. And I was like, I was like, how's this man ride up? He's hitting wheelies with no training wheels? I'm like, I still have training wheels on my bike. I was like, how the fuck, this dude cool as fuck. I was like, Larry's the man. Like he was he didn't even have tires on his rim. The rims didn't even have tires on it. Oh, damn. Damn. He did wheelies like catwalking it from like the street down. I was like, this motherfucker's cool as fuck. So I was like, we me and my sister went out there, and then uh I just remember we became friends, and like he was always my boy. But um from then, uh let me see. So yeah, our dad, so my dad.

Yeah, yeah. What did your dad do in the industry? And then and then what did Larry's dad do in the industry? So my dad was uh uh I grew up in around music. I grew up in a recording studio. My dad had a big uh recording studio in the 90s. He uh here in Atlanta, yeah, in Atlanta. The first analog, I mean the first digital recording studio, everything was analog back then. Oh, he was a pioneer. Yeah, he had the first, like, Damn. Like, yeah, it was it was crazy. That's dope. What kind of acts were recording out of there? So uh, yeah, like TLC, Oh shit, fucking Curtis Mayfield, damn, OutKast, like every Dallas, like all the motherfuckers was really in my, like it was a lot of people know, like, damn. damn, what was that one dude's name? Uh like Sammy Sam, like it was like some legends, bro. Like it's literally like everybody was over there, man. Damn, you're good. But um, yeah, so he had the uh I I I grew up around that, so like we love music. Yeah, and we love guns as kids. We always like we love guns.

Shout out the South, yeah. Gun guns in studios, yeah. That's all you need. Really? I don't know why that was always just my memory. We always like guns as like cowboys and Indians and stuff like that. Yeah, we love guns, for some reason as a kid growing up in Riverdale. But so what was Larry's dad doing? He was a rapper, right? So no, no, Larry's dad, he had a record label. He had a record label? back in the day called I think it was the road or whatever, okay. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, it was the road. Yeah, and um, yeah, and uh he had like always had the the the cool bandanas, like all the artist names. We would like we pretend like we were the artists, like we we just loved it was just you know, his dad was in the music industry, mine was. We just that was our dream. So this was implanted, yeah, at a in both of y'all at a pretty young age, clearly. I mean, it's like there. But like what was the dream? Was it like for both of you guys to be artists? We would literally yeah, so uh I'll get there okay, okay.

So got me on the edge of my seat. We would literally, we would even we'd have toy cars, like we'd be playing with toy cars and be like, yeah, this is gonna be my house. It's gonna be like we would attract in the car. That's why, like Larry and manifestation beast, man. I'm telling you, like it's kind of crazy. But you too, clearly. You got the Rolls Royce. I've been always been good at it, but I mean he's he's just he's he's a little more he does it with his words and his music. And if you notice it, like he everything he speaks in his songs, he'll say that shit two years before and get it, you know. Interesting, but uh yeah. Are you a spiritual guy? I'm pretty yeah, I'm very spiritual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can I could use some of that in my life. You could. You need Jesus, man. I don't it's not about that. It's just you know, even like manifestation and stuff. Like I hear all about that, you know, and the success stories of people doing it and like how how you know valuable it is. And I just, I don't know.

I just I feel weird or corny when I find myself trying to do it. Say like a mantra. Yeah, and then it like, and then it just basically like sours it for me, and I like stop. I don't know. But this is a pattern though. Like the most successful people have this like crazy belief that they are going to do exactly what they say they're gonna do. Like Wayne really said, you know, I'm the greatest rapper alive, and he would always say it and he believed it. Power of the tongue, man. That's why that's why it's like it's it's really it's really like witchcraft if you think about it. You know, you know why it's called spells, and words are called spelling, it's spelling, it's a spell. The words you speak is a spell. Damn. Like it's powerful. Everything we say, it it's that's it's not it the the power of the tongue is real. You're putting it out there in the world. Yeah, it's spelling, it's literally a spell. What I'm talking about right now is a spell. Damn, We're casting spells. I'm feeling like I'm like it's a spell. Yeah, title of this episode casting spells with Sean Taylor. It's really that's what it is. It's a spell.

Everything I've attracted everything I've ever wanted. Uh it's kind of crazy. Like, I literally, since I I I could go on, but I have so many stories about law of attraction. We need them. Give us one. Good one. Give us one, yeah. Man, something you attracted. It even even back, say for instance, even the Jeep, just the Jeep Wrangler that I had back, like my first, I'd say that was like my first like dream car that I got, like back in like 2015. So not the crazy one that's out in the in the driveway. I'm excited. I mean, that I love that shit's hard. I got that later on, but yeah, god dang that's my baby. I love it. I was hoping for the Rolls Royce pulling up. He was like, bro, I'm not putting those kind of miles on this, on this Rolls. Hell no, that's too far. The Jeeps for that. Yeah. Yeah we're kind of out in the cut but that's fine. A little bit. Yeah. But yeah, so like give us like you know one of your like what what when did you know you wanted that Jeep? So my dad had a Jeep when I was a kid. And it's kind of crazy. So my dad had a Jeep.

You want to know something crazy too? Larry's dad had the McLaren back then. As we were kids he's always telling me about like man my dad got the McLaren 5.0, damn, so his record label was like out of here, like you heard some of the artists, don't pull it up, yeah, that you know that was like the car in the 90s like the old school McLaren. so it wasn't like what I like today. I'm talking about like the you know the same one Larry has the ASC McLaren. Okay. The old school joint. Yeah. And uh and it's crazy because like look he attracted that too and it's like Damn. we always you know you as a kid you always kind of want to be like your dad and like my dad had that Jeep and I wanted to be like my dad. So that was like the coolest thing to finally you know get a Jeep. Yeah I always kind of but I like always had it on my uh on my like I remember in high school when I first Larry's the one that put me on law of attraction actually he uh we were in high school I think senior year I think and um he came and uh he was like man you gotta watch the secret yeah the secret that was crazy. This is all nine this is before a lot of people were on the secret so what the fuck is the secret am I supposed to know this it's essentially the law of attraction and manifesting everybody knows the secret is in a movie yeah you didn't it's a book too I think you really you didn't dude it was a craze for a while. Dude, When it got big. Like, this is one of those times where I should have just kept going with it and been like, yeah, yeah, the secret. You've already exposed yourself.

but like, I don't know what the secret is. So, like, put me on. I mean, it's just it's it's basically all about law of attraction. Okay. How to do it and willing things. Yeah, it just it breaks it all down Okay. So I need to watch this. To really understand it. Yeah. You should definitely watch The Secret. Yeah, I need to watch it. I'm surprised you haven't. I feel like everybody in the world. I mean, maybe I'm tripping. Maybe I have, but I don't think I have. Okay, see, thank you. I'm not the only one. Thank God. So we're 50-50 in this room. Yeah, yeah. I've seen it. That's crazy to me. Yeah, okay. I was feeling real crazy until Until Holden. Holden's got your back. Shout out to Holden in the building, but my brother. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, the the secret was a big, that was like a big part of everything. Yeah. Damn. So, like, at what point did either of y'all actually take the step into, you know. Oh, so So. I'll go back to the story. yeah, you're good. I'm on those hot toddies. Yeah,

yeah. Shout out to Toddies. Hot Toddies. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so uh let me say, uh, yeah, so both of our dads in the music industry, all that blah blah. We used to uh I knew Larry. Larry, Larry was the one that always wanted to do music though. Like, I couldn't. So what did you want to do? I I wanted to be a rapper too. Yeah. Okay. so me and Larry. I was hoping this was the case. You got bars? Yeah, I like freestyling. We always have fun and freestyle and shit. Yeah, lunch table. But I would never like I don't eat nothing. I just always felt like it's just so saturated now. It'd be lame as hell. It is hard. I would be a rapper. With a stash like that, bro, though, you might just lame make waves. I don't know. I don't know. You bust a 16 right now. No, Henry. Don't do that, Henry. Not being lame. I was just like, I don't know, it's just so like uh it's hard. I just don't know. It's hard to make it. Dude, everyone does. music. I just I don't know. It's just everyone's doing it now. It's just like it's like if you get a following, even doing something else besides music, it's like people are just dropping music just because they already have a fan base, so it's just another revenue stream. I play around with it sometimes, but I'm like, I don't know if I would want to do rap or if I'd want to do like just some funky shit, or I don't know.

I never really knew what I'd want to do, so that's why I never really did it. Because I feel like I could I love all music, so I feel like I could. But when I was younger, I definitely wanted to be a rapper. Like me and Larry, that's how I always believed in Larry, because this man Larry was making like he was making beats on the keyboard at a young age, like fucking crazy ass beats. I'm like literally like elementary school, making crazy ass, him and his cousin making crazy ass beats, and then would record it on the karaoke machine. So we'd go over there, we'd make the songs, and then we would do the doubles, we'd flip the tape over, do our dubs, do our ad-libs. Yeah, yeah, and that's how we would do it, make songs. You just flip the tape over, man. Yeah, like I literally have some. I have some tape somewhere in my mom's attic, I think. Yeah, yeah. Literally, hard ass fucking songs we were making, and like and I was fired though. I really I was a big Eminem fan. I wanted to be like Eminem. I was rapping like Eminem a little bit. Of course you were, like 50 Cent. I love it. Of course, you know. I was like, a white guy made it. But I was I was really bro, all of us white people that were rap fans were.

Everybody loved you like Eminem. Eminem is our savior. Everybody wants to go, yeah. And now we're all like, she sucks, she's trash, she's washed up. It is trash. It's because it hurts. And now we're all just like idol back in the kid. It was like that was your idol. Yeah, imagine your idol, just like, damn. Yeah, but how many people, white or black, are still for that long, like making you know, like 50 Cent is my favorite still right now. Right now, my favorite person, I say is 50 Cent. I love 50. Like, my favorite person overall is a person, just an idol, all overall. Like, why? Everything he does. Entrepreneurship clearly it's part of it? Everything, just movies, everything he does. I love his book. Everything he does. What's the book called? Uh Hustle Harder. Hustle Smarter. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. Like, that's one of my favorite. I love that, but I listen to podcasts sometimes over and over. Over the, you know, Spotify. Yeah. Over and over just to refresh it. Yeah. Oh. You know, just because And the replay value. whenever I'm in the airplane, like the airport, I listen to that. And my I'm not listening to music.

I'm listening to 50 Cent dropping gems. Damn. Like Curtis. Okay. 50 Cent is my idol, bro. I don't care. Dude, no, I mean, the way you're so passionate about that. He's the perfect person to look up to. Like, there's nobody, I don't think that. I don't know. At least for me. Like, I just understand. Like everything, how he moves, everything he does, like, it's just calculated perfectly. It's pretty incredible to see what he's done, honestly. Like, just, you know, coming from the circumstances that, you know, he came from, and obviously, you know, dealing with getting shot nine times, whatever the case may be. I mean, you know, him, him not only just transcending transcending rap is such a beautiful thing, right? When someone uses their like rap career to then go to something transcend into, you know, business, right? Like, that's why like everyone looks up to Jay-Z, for example. Everyone looks up to Dr. Dre. Everyone looks up to 50, right? Like, these are these are legends because they've not only like you know, pioneered something within music, which was what brought everyone's attention to them, but then they didn't stop there, right? Like, they weren't, they didn't settle for just and that's why I think Eminem gets a lot of hate, honestly.

He's not doing, he's not known for transcending into these other other than Shady Records. Like, what's he doing, right? Yeah, exactly. He's not selling it. He never really did it. Like, music is a young guy's game. Like, like everyone always says it is. it is a young man's game. It's like you should. I wonder why he's not he shouldn't be, he should be doing something cool. Like he's a visionary too I feel like he should be doing something. He does mom's spaghetti actually yeah but the like oh there's a shot there's like an Italian restaurant or something it's just kind of like no you'd think he would have some like crazy brand huge business venture yeah something right like a a retail location of an Italian restaurant. It's not like that impressive yeah I mean no offense Marshall like you've got way more money than I do and you know whatever but yeah it's I think that is a big thing of like why why hasn't he done that you know I don't know I feel like he could have just done so much more. Yeah it was kind of hard. it kind of hurt man kind of I'm really interested in like being a studio rat as like a kid right well what are some of your fondest memories of that man I got a picture somewhere my my dad was telling me it was like there's a picture of you sitting in Andre uh sitting on left eye's lap with Andre Rising in there. I was like oh my God. Oh my God. That would be legendary. he's like I don't know where it is we have a picture I remember I took it there's a picture somewhere with you and Andre Rison in left eye sitting on their lap at like four years old holy shit damn that'd be legendary now we if you find that we'll put it up where our editors will put it up somewhere I won't find it ah damn it dad I know I was like that's crazy but I don't remember all this like I remember it was it was it was crazy over there it was a it was a lot of shit so so what happens first Larry starting to rap or like you you starting to rap at the same time like were you actually always having fun making music fucking around and like that was our dream and like when does it start becoming more than that?

When does it start getting real? Well, Larry, Larry went to uh he ended up in ninth grade. That's when we met went back to the bay. Yeah. So like that's when he went, you know, he started, you know, that's when he was really, he was grinding though. Like he was fucking selling CDs, like going out there passing out CDs, and he was he was putting in the work. So was that tough losing your I mean, because he was like your best friend at that point, right? I mean, we always stayed in in touch through MySpace. So like MySpace. MySpace was cracking. You stayed in each other's top eight. Hell yeah. Always. Yeah, they're always my number one in my shit. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, what? Like Larry, Larry the one, he still, because he he he kind of still had me on the on the fashion with the gold the rope chains, like back then. Like when I grew up in Riverdale, I was the only white kid where I grew up at. Yeah. So it was I already know it. Yeah, I was the only white kid. Like I'm familiar with the area. Yeah. Surprised you were from there. That like Larry always had my back too, though. Like even the older kids would try to fight us.

It like Larry was still always. They was even though Larry was my age, they still had a little fear of Larry. Always had Larry was wild when he was young. Yeah. Y'all know the peaceful Larry. Y'all don't know. His music's so peaceful. He seems so zenned out, for sure. Now Larry whoop your ass. I'm telling you, it's crazy. I'm interested because, you know, oftentimes, you know, I'm I'm in the Atlanta hip hop space here, right? And oftentimes I will be the only, you know, white person At a function, whatever. What was but you know, but growing up, I wasn't the only white kid in my neighborhood. I wasn't the only white kid in my school, et cetera. What was your experience like being, you know? You know what it was? Yeah. My thing was fashion. Yeah. And uh, and honestly, you know who put me on that? was Larry. Larry. Sure. Like his mom always had them fresh. And my mom had me and my sister's hand-me-downs. Mm-hmm. Like, we were bro. I was wearing my sister's Barbie sandals, and one time Larry. Damn. Larry was like, bro, you can't be wearing this shit. He gave me some of his old school Jordans.

It was something like, I think it was like, yeah, he gave me like the old fours. I was like, damn, appreciate it, man. Leveled up. That's a real friend, bro. Had me fresh. And that's what kind of always kept me in in the fashion mode. Mm-hmm. Because like it don't matter how fresh you are, like you you you might think you're fresh as hell, and then you get around Larry, you might have a white tee on. He's still fresh as hell. You might be like, it'll still be fresh as hell. It's just always that shit been in him. Yeah. And that shit is crazy to me. Damn. Yeah. Like that's how I always knew. I always knew I was like, man, Larry got the power. Yeah. Like back then. That's that's when fast forward to like 2011, we started the free minded. He was like, he was he was about to stop doing music. Really? What? Like, he was about to start uh shooting videos. He was like, man, I was in college, I was living with my girl, and he was like, Man, this music shit ain't working. I'm about to start shooting music videos. He had a flip cam. Wow. And he was like, man, that shit didn't work. Started doing music videos. And I was like, Really? I was like, that's interesting. Music videos.

I was like, hmm, I never really thought about that. Hmm. Is that where your how she started? So then, yeah, so one day we were smoking, I was high as fuck. And I started playing with his camera, and I was like, I'm doing little angles. I was like, you know what? I can get into this. And I was like, so then he had this song called Going Nuts. And that was the first music video I ever did. If you look it up on YouTube, what is it called? Going nuts. Going nuts. Going nuts, okay. And that's when I knew that song was hard as fuck. Like, and that's the first directed by Sean Kelly video. My first music video ever. Really? And I was like, I was this is when I knew when he sent that. Larry would always send me songs back then. And I always kept it real. Like, nah, I don't, I don't know. Like, uh, like it. I'm that type of guy. If anybody sends me a song, I would tell you if I like it or not. Yeah. And that's when I, this was the one when I was like, Damn. this shit is hard as fuck. I was like, bro. And and and when I had that, when I finally had that camera, I was like, we we did a music video. I remember I finally I went in, uh, I bought a camera off of Craigslist for $500. And I then that's when uh he was like, damn, are you really serious about this?

And that's when we shot the video for it, and uh it was got such a good response. Like everybody was like, what the fuck? Like, this shit is fire. I shot it on my girl's iMac using using uh iMovie. Yeah, iMovie. Shout out iMovie. At the iMac. I was broke as hell. We were both we me and Larry, we were both living with my girl at the time. Like, we were just I was just trying to figure it out. Like could you feel something like when that happened? Or is it just obvious now looking back that that was like a big turning point for you? You know what I mean? Like, I'm always wondering. I knew. I literally dropped out of school for that. Like I knew, I felt it. And then at the time, my Instagram was the free minded, because I was really into conspiracy theories. Oh god. I was very into conspiracy theories. That's when I. Like which one got you into them at that point? You're a flat earther. I was nah, hell no. Okay. Well, we don't know. You said you're big into conspiracy theories. That's a very reasonable assumption.

I used YouTube as a tool back then. I wasn't just watching music, I was really like in there watching, like going down those holes. So, what was the one that like first got you? Can't even remember to be honest, bro. Okay, what's one now? Your conspiracies? Yeah, I don't want to go. That's Come on. let me stick to the story. Let me stick to the story. Sean. I just kidding. Sean Kelly is a flat earther. Yeah, no, hell no. Sean Kelly says we never landed on the moon. So look, so so look. That might be real. Look, I'm just saying. So so my that was my Instagram, the free Minded. Okay, because of the conspiracy theories. I mean, that was my Or you're like opposition? Not yet. my bad. My bad. I mean, that was my Twitter name. Okay, yeah, yeah. This is pre-IG. Yes. Yeah, yeah. This is 2010. Okay, it's pre-IG. Because I'm like, man, like I'm so like, and then I remember Larry was like, but what's the free minded? And I was like, I was just like, tell him, you know, about all the shit that I learned. I'm like, bro. And they kept saying, like, the free minded, the free minded.

Sounds good. sounds good. You should make that our record label. And I was like, for real? I was like, man, that don't sound bad. All right, all right, let's go. I'm with it. And then Wow. Like, because he always had that mindset, like, like, because you he wanted to keep it going. And wow. Yeah. And that's how it started. And then he just kept. We just did it. And I started shooting the videos. And Bro, I'm not gonna lie. That was the beginning of it. I was always wondering like where the name came from. Like, did you have like is that it even even in like your top 10 of ways that that name would have come about? I'd have been number eight or nine. I for me, it's like 24. I think it was number 24. It was just great, though. I'm telling you, it's amazing. I just wanted to think of something that described me, and that's when I was like, like, and I was really like, I'm I'm free minded. I'm like, because I've always been kind of in this weird, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm never, I've never felt like like too black for the white kids, too white for the black. That was always me. Like how Earl Sweatshirt said. I was like, yeah, what lyric is.

that? It's never, I never felt like, you know, especially growing up around, like, I've never felt comfortable in a room full of white people, and then I've never felt comfortable in a room full of black people. It's like you always feel that extra pressure, and I've always felt in the middle, exactly. Yeah, so it was like the free-minded for me was more of like, it's kind of like a religion. It was almost like a it was something bigger than just, you know. And it sounds like it fits him too, as well. Yeah, it was just me. I'm free minded. That's what I am. I'm not I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat. I'm free-minded. I'm um that's that was always my mindset with it. It's like an awakening. It is. I'm free mind, me. I'm free. Like So did that. You can't control my thoughts. We're being manipulated right now. For sure. Yeah, here at one more time studios for sure. We all, yeah. Yeah, I mean, definitely. We really, we've been. I was just telling my boy yesterday, you know what the new control is right now? What is it? It's sex, bro. We being controlled by women, bro. How so? Instagram, everything.

That's the demon that's controlling us right now. I do catch myself scrolling a little bit too much. sometimes. And that's what's fucking, that's what's stopping us. That's what's keeping us from down here and not getting rich. Because Bottles. Yeah. we're letting women control us, bro. We're letting we're literally, bro. We're thinking with our dicks and not our minds, bro. Yeah, I mean, for someone who's consistently around what you know, Beautiful women. the average Joe would call IG baddies. I mean, how do you how do you deal with that then? I mean, you're basically like putting yourself in the devil. I fell down that trap. I fell down that trap. Yeah. That's why I was preaching. I saw your last, I saw your last girl, you know what I mean? And probably the ones before. She just like the rest of them though. Well, okay. Sorry, ex-girl, I didn't mean to like say that way. Just like the rest of them. I just meant that, you know, she was clearly of the, you know. Hey, these girls, bro. Yeah. I'm telling you, it ain't that's that's our distraction right now. And I really I thought it out, I thought about that clearly last night, and I was like, that's that's that's what's holding us down.

Is that gonna change anything for you? That's what's keeping our frequency low when we could be up here, like it is way too easy to just see half-naked girls everywhere, and he's all that you have to do. I'm telling you, it's There's an agenda for that. They it's easy to control us, man. I'm telling you, and it's women, they're using social media. That's why that's why I was talking about the OnlyFans business. Yeah, OnlyFans are just gonna be. Oh, so now we can get into it. But it's gonna it's gonna only get bigger and bigger. More after a while, no one's gonna be able to work. Women, everybody's just gonna be selling themselves, and women are gonna be the ones making all the bread. And in their defense, like why would you go get 15 bucks an hour when you can take some pictures and make 10 grand in a week? I know No, right now, that's why, like, we're really it's we're entering at a low point right now. This is every girl I feel like in America in the world eventually is gonna be on own you think the world is fucked to some degree. It's getting worse and worse. It's getting fucked, bro.

It's getting that's why I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I want to have a kid now in this type of it's like if I bring a girl into this, She'd probably be doing the same thing. Damn it. Oh, yeah, it's too easy. Shout out to my baby girl, shout out to my baby girl about to be born in October, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, This is too easy. I think about these things a lot now. Like, as a as a dad who, you know, I have a son and I'm about to have a baby girl, and it's like, you know, is he gonna be just a horny bastard? And then she's gonna be an OnlyFans model? I don't know, maybe. Yeah, and it's a it's kind of a sad thing to think about. Like, I mean, he's got to be her life, man. Yeah, he's got to be a good dad. So, what are you you know, what are you trying to like? Are you challenging yourself to how are you combating this you know existence that you're talking, you know, or this like state that you're talking about, right? Like, are you trying to stay off. Can't beat them, might as well join them. Yeah, OnlyFans management. He's good. Yeah, I thought he was gonna say some wholesome shit. I forgot, like, what business he's getting into. No, no.

Shooter shit. Nah, you're gonna, I don't even, what I'm gonna start is gonna be a ghost business. People are not even even know it's mine. Oh man, until they dig this podcast. Maybe, maybe once it's really cracking, yeah. I'll let them know it's mine. But so is is the time that you basically start taking your you know, directing career and like you know, visual art career seriously. Is that the same time that Larry like decided to not quit and essentially start going even harder on the rap, or was that once I picked it up? Fuck that. He was like, let's stick to the play. Okay, and then we just kept going. We would shoot videos and shit. And uh and he was in the bay though at this time? He was in Atlanta. He was in Atlanta, but then we would fly, like, this is back then when you could you could fly Air Train U. I don't know if you guys are old enough to remember AirTran I'm definitely old enough, but I don't remember. I'm as old as you for sure. I'm 32. Oh, I'm like I'm as old as you for sure. Yeah, I was like air train. You don't remember Air Train U? You could fly from Atlanta to Cali for like 120 flat rate. Whoa.

If you were under 18. Oh. Or wait under 21, maybe that's what it was. Okay, see, I wasn't like, I wasn't probably taking advantage of the. Bro, we were taking advantage of that shit. Okay. So we'd fly to we'd fly to LA. Yeah, I know. It's so much money that I didn't care about this air train you, bro. Come on, bro. No, so middle class. We flew, we would fly to LA. But I just didn't like remember about this. He had to shoot videos in LA and uh and in the bay. I finally went to the bay for the first time. Long story short, my camera and all that shit got stolen in the bay. Oh shit, yeah. So it's like a director's worst nightmare. Like, yeah, we lost all the footage, all the shit we had. Oh. We had a lot of crazy videos, and like they stole it all. That's like a producer losing their hard drive. Yeah. The laptop with all the beats on it and shit. Yeah. Nightmares. Shit happened. It does. Fuck it. Now we got cloud backup. But it was cool. Like that was a learning process. And then um, I don't know. We just we just kept going. Did Larry, because I I you you've become like a big fan as of recent. Like you really went like head first after The Great Escape. made it.

Yeah. I like knew who he was. And uh that project came out, and I just I was like on a beach trip, and it was like the soundtrack to my trip. Dude, you said you listened to it like how many times? Probably 10 times front to back on like a three-day trip, like easily. And I still play it to this day. So I became a real fan. And I've always loved Al also. Of course. He's a big Al stan. Yeah. Holy shit. Come on. Oh my god. He just he seems like one of those of like, you know, don't meet your idols, but then like he seems like you could meet him, and it would be like, oh yeah, this is exactly what I wanted Alchemist to be like. Is that is that true? Yeah, he's like, he's cool as fuck, bro. He's exactly what you would think he is. Yeah. Damn, I love that. Just for just society, you know. Man, just cool as fuck. Uncle Al. We'd love to have you on the pod. We'd love to have you on the pod. For sure. Cool as fuck. but yeah, um, so like I I wasn't, you know, so familiar with Larry's trajectory or whatever. Did he have a project or a song or like a moment that really like because he's arguably one of the top independent artists? I'll literally break it down. Yeah, literally from my perspective. We all have our own perspective, but sure.

From how I seen everything, sure, it was fucking. We was doing that, we was grinding, doing the videos and everything. Yeah. And then around like 2012, 13, it was 2012, that's when E40 and Larry did a song called Money Straight. That was like the big break. That was like Man of the Bay. The Bay legend links up with the Bay. That shit went Crazy on Worldstar. What was the song? What was the song? Money Straight. My Money Straight. Oh shit. Man, I need a shit. And that's when we was like, damn, this should be. I was like, man, Larry, you're about to blow. It's about to happen. So how did that happen? How did that happen? To be honest, I have no idea, bro. I think before you just reached out to Larry. I really don't know. I just we're trying to put people on game. It's like I really don't know how. Okay, he's seen Larry just grinding. Having some motion. And it was I'm not sure to be honest. Like I didn't know if he paid him or whatnot, No. Hell no. Oh, okay. He's like, I know for a fact Larry didn't pay him. Okay. It's so bad. no, but honestly, if you're from, I mean, you know, the Bay's obviously not like a like super small market, but at the same time, like if you're from uh, you know, when is this girl from Portland, right? And it's like if she links up with whoever like Portland's like big, you know, like just get with if you can get the attention of like your cities.

If you're from like a secondary market or like not in Atlanta, LA, Chicago, New York, whatever, like that seems to be something that worked, you know. It's like if you can get that kind of cosign, like I'm not huge into you know, like relying on a cosign, but like if it makes sense, like an E40, bro, and you're from the Bay, like We were like, damn, this shit is crazy. That is crazy. I was posting out there. We're posting the views, you know, Worldstar reviews would be like five million. So you'd be like, we got five million views. I still swear some of those Worldstar numbers aren't real. I swear some of those shits are inflated, bro. You would have thought everything was fucking great then, but you know, Larry was grinding, man. He was doing his thing. Yeah. And then um that's when he got the bands. I think. He got the bands and shit. You know, he was moving doing his his other shit. And you know, what do you think's works so well for him? Like, how do you you know, like just you pointing at a couple things that have like been what you know? Because talent, I mean, we all know that's not I mean, he's talented, but it's just not like so.

You know what I mean? Like, What. what do you point to when it's like, hey, here's why I think Larry has transcended to the status that he's at right now. You know what it was to me, I always believed in Larry. I I remember even one of my boys called me one time and was like, it's like, I don't know why you fucking with Larry so much, man. I just don't see it. Swear to God, hell for that guy, in San Francisco, fucking sleeping on floors, trying to goddamn, we grinding, just shooting videos. Yeah, and I'll never forget that shit. But yep. And then uh, but you know what it was for me? It was it was Larry was always a leader, and I always I just knew like same thing. I could say the same thing with with with like people like even Curtis Williams. Y'all know Curtis Williams. Two-9? Of course. Come on. He'll tell you right now, like, I'm the he always tells me I didn't even realize that, but he was always telling me he's like, he's like, you don't want to you don't want to make me rap. Because he was making beats. He's like, you don't want to tell me to rap.

I I shot his first videos too. Oh cool. yeah. And then and I was like, damn. I was like, but I always knew Larry, I always, I always, I always just it was him as a leader, and I knew the music, I knew it wasn't there yet, but I know as you get more confidence, it grows, and I knew it get better. Yeah, because I just knew how talented he was, regardless. I knew I seen this man make crazy ass beats on the piano. I seen him making crazy ass songs as a kid. So I was like, I knew he just didn't know himself at the moment, but that doesn't mean shit. We never do. But I knew I knew his potential, I knew he was gonna fucking find it. And once he found it, I knew he was gonna fucking. I always looked at Larry as like a Jay-Z dude. Like when you listen to Jay-Z, and then she was like, he was beating on the on the on the table as a kid, making beats and rapping, that was Larry. Mm-hmm. Like Larry is literally Jay-Z to me. See, for me, I'm telling you, it's perfect. What he is at right now ain't shit. Yeah, it's perfect. It's going to get bigger. It's perfect that you you know compare him to Jay, because for me, I think what makes him so successful up until this point, and I agree, I think that you know it's just a starting, you know, point, honestly, is that he's selling this lifestyle, man.

I mean, he's he's selling this lifestyle with the cars and like him being fresh as fuck and like doing cool tricks on the bike when he's four years old and shit, whatever, right? Like he makes everything look cool, and like rappers make shit look cool, but like not in the way that Larry does, and the way that currency does, and the way that Wiz made smoking look cool, and the way that Jay-Z made everything look, you know, like I'm the king and I'm an entrepreneur and I'm a hustler, all that shit, right? Like, he reminds me a lot, like you know, they don't make similar music, but but Will Hill, who you know, we've had on the podcast, who's Scoons guy. Yeah, exactly. So Will, we talked about this whole selling lifestyle idea, right? And I think that that's what Larry does, like, I think better than it is, it's better than most, man. It's like it's very You want to know something crazy. specific. Well, back then, in in like 2010 or whatever, when we we started the free minded, Larry was already taking vitamins. Wow. Before the dad is, I think his dad was taking vitamins. So Larry was already taking vitamins. He put me on vitamins, and I was like, I mean, we was kind of taking vitamins as a kid and shit, but like the Flintstone gummies. Yeah.

Quick quick story. One time, me and Larry, we we we wanted to uh we didn't want to go to school the next day. And then my mom always said, if you take too many vitamins, you get sick. So I was like, man, I got a plan, bro. Down a bottle. I was like, if we take a lot of these vitamins, we'll be sick. We don't have to go to school. Swear to God. Bro, most of us. But we were taking vitamins back in the day. Oh, shit. But like 5,000% of his daily vitamin C. But nah, for real. But it was one time. Too much B12. Yeah. It was one time I was like, bro, you should rap about vitamins. I was like, you should rap about the you should rap about this shit. That sounds like the dumbest idea. Like if you just told me that, like on the street, bro. I said this shit in 2010, bro. I know, but like when Wiz Khalifa. Everybody was cracking and like rap about weed. I was like, bro, rap about vitamins. He finally looked at you like. He always kept the orange on him. I know. He always kept the orange. I was like, orange on. He's like, just in case I get dehydrated. That's cool. That's great. Kush is cool, but calcium. It's like just shades.

Like, that's my just in case. Larry, like, that shit ain't no fabricated shit, bro. Larry always had an orange on him. I promise you. That's funny, man. Like everything. This shit is not no gimmick or nothing. It's literally, this was real. Yeah. It just seems cute. He always had the vitamins, always had the, uh, kept the orange in his pocket. I was like, bro, we go out. You have an orange in his pocket, pull out an orange. How do you even fit an orange in your pocket? I mean, I'm just you gotta have big pockets, right? Like, I don't even know how you do that. It just seems he seems comfortable in his skin. I I don't even. I don't even remember telling him that. And he. he the one that told me recently. He's like, bro, you the one that told me to wrap up vitamins. Like, For real? I don't even remember that. But yeah, damn. It it sounds like you have a uh track record of like, you know, believing in people and like seeing the the potential and like, you know, and pushing them to be something that like they're maybe one foot in, one foot out, right? Because you know, Larry's on the verge of quitting. You, you know, re in, you know, I guess re energize him with like, I want to shoot videos. Like, like I gotta shoot your videos, clearly, help me. I didn't even think about that.

Yeah, it's like, I mean, you know, you're pointing even with the Curtis shit, like him pointing out, like, bro, you were the reason why I like started rapping, you know what I mean? Which like everyone knows 2 9 here in Atlanta, like fucking legends, you know what I mean? He was the first he was the second person I ever did a video for. Wow, that shit's crazy. Yeah, no, I mean, and so I think that you know, speaking of selling lifestyle, like I think that you, I mean, dude, with the mustache, with the roles, with the you know, the life. I mean, you're selling a lifestyle, bro, whether you like think about it or not. It's aesthetic. it's personal branding, man. And that was why I was actually really excited to talk to you. Is like, are you consciously thinking about like the Sean Kelly personal brand often, or is it not really, bro? I really just do Wow. I probably could be doing way better if I did think that way, but I'm just I'm just I just live my life, man. Wow. It seems. It seems so. It seems like me. I'm I'm a like marketer at heart, and I just I love branding and like strategy and then that sort of thing. It's like for me, man. I'm like, this dude is so calculated, bro.

I'm really not. Holden's the one that's always telling me shit like I should be doing, and I'm like, bro, I just don't care. Like, I'm literally, I just I just want to get paid and live life and have fun and life is short, man. I don't give a fuck about I don't care about what nobody thinks. I just don't care. I just want to be happy. Yeah, well, life is short. man. Amen. Amen to that. absolutely. Yeah, so so where's the majority of your time uh spent these days? Right? City wise, or like what you mean? Oh no, I mean just like where your focus is at, like business wise, like because I I mean shit. I was talking to him, he's a stock market nerd, and I see you always put you know, so like I do a lot of day trading, options trading. Yeah, yeah. Where's the majority? Is the majority of your days spent, you know, on the directing side of things? Is it on you know, trying to figure out new business ventures? Is it the stock market? It's um, but but right now I'm only really doing Larry's videos right now. I just want to focus on Larry's shit, and so it's still like locked in partnership at this point. Yeah, we're just yeah, we're still fucking grinding.

We just we just did the new cardo shit. It's about to go crazy. The album about to drop soon. Oh wow. Yeah, and and that shit is fire. with Cardo. Yeah, fire as fuck. We didn't know about this. We just did a video. What? I shot that shit handheld on the boat. We just on a boat having fun with my black magic, and we just having fun and just natural. Like damn, do you like that? You know what it is? I don't believe in. I'm done with that big budget video shit. I think that's what I'm saying. I was just about to ask you this. Overrated and lame, it's a waste of money. You don't need that shit. We do. Bro. fans don't want to see that shit. Nobody gives a fuck. Fans want to see the raw, real you. Yes. They don't give a fuck about you wearing a tuxedo or in a western. That wasn't no Tiger shout out. But they don't give a fuck about no tiger style videos. We love you, Tiger. How about no record label style videos? Like, and that's why I used to work with all the right record labels. I did all that shit, and I hate it.

I hate it. I hate fucking, I used to hate writing treatments and trying to compete with all this commercial ass shit, and it's just so lame. Damn it. It's so lame to me bro. Crazy. Like a thousand dollar video, like what you could do with $50,000 besides do a one video is insane to think about. And you know what? I think part of the reason of that is TikTok. TikTok comes out and people are making all this finely polished, nice content. TikTok comes out, and the shit going that's going viral is people selfie style, dimly lit room, saying some awkward shit. Is you know, just the real shit. Don't get me wrong. I still believe in music videos. I know y'all said y'all don't like music videos. We love music videos. I just think that it if you're an independent artist, yes, you should not be spending uh you know a significant portion of your rollout budget on the fucking just YouTube music video. I kind of disagree in a slight sense.

It depends, though. I don't I don't think you should do a hundred K videos, but I think you you stay stay at least under 50 because you'll get that. Independent artists don't even have a thousand dollars bro. Sometimes you still. No, it depends. Like I'm talking like just bigger. I know, I know, I feel you, I feel you. I'm just saying, just like stay, I don't know, it's just stay in that certain that certain so yeah, you know what I'm saying? So, like if you can share this video you're talking about where you were just handheld, you know, in the moment, like real raw. I feel like that how much did that cost? Can you share? Shit. I mean, my you know, whatever I whatever my shit was, and then you know, uh shit. I mean, the boat was like 30k. But oh shit. So, you know, we was doing that. You gotta understand that's 4th of July. We haven't fun chilling anyway. That was already. That was just a party expense. We already chilling. Yeah.

So I won't even say nothing like that. But like, so it's kind of free when you think about it. Party would have happened anyway. It would have happened anyway, but it it's like I'm just saying. But you brought your camera. And got a dope video. Yeah, we got we got a clean video. I'm just but I'm I'm saying that video is just as effective as that 100,000 video. Yeah, see, that's the point. you got a whole goddamn DP. You got like I hate I hate looking. Three ACs. I hate looking all yeah, the credits, bro. You got yeah, credit credits. Motherfuckers be on Instagram posting there's a hundred people. Yeah, uh fuck it. Like, Don't give me a DP. It's cool. But don't fucking put all this goddamn grip. God damn. He loves his DP. Oh shit. Guy that got us water gets a PA. five PAs. Why are you putting five PAs on there? Who gives a fuck? No one cares. I know. Like that shit is so like Well they're free sometimes. It's overdone. I feel like that that era of music videos is dead. Because they used to spend what a million dollars on video. Record labels aren't even giving out money no more for music videos like that.

Not like they used to. What is the major label budget? I'm barely getting the emails Like I used to. What is the major label budget for like a big major label artist? What kind of budgets are they actually having these days? Do you know? Man, they ain't going over a hundred. Really? Okay. It depends. I doubt it, but yeah, the ones you've seen, are like 100K? I mean, it depends. Like the bigger you got like Taylor Swift and shit. They might be able to do that. Wow, okay. I'm talking like an average major label artist, It's not like a but it's if you do the numbers, man, it really doesn't make sense. And being a director saying that, I'm probably gonna shoot myself in the foot. That's real though. But it's real. Yeah. No, that's real. it's really that shit really don't matter. Like, you could really, that's the only reason why I'm starting to shoot myself again. Like use the camera and do everything myself because that's the future again. Like, that's the wave right now. Do the shit yourself. All that crew shit. I know it looks cool, but that shit kind of lame. Yeah, I feel like you need show me your talent. Show me what you can really show that you can do it yourself. Yeah.

Show that you can color. Edit. Everybody be like all these directors be having colors and editors, uh, and they just like they be going hard, have the best editors in LA doing it. And that shit be looking good, but it'd be looking so too good. You don't want shit looking too good. It's like too many cooks in the kitchen. Too good. Like, who the fuck wants? I like imperfection? I think imperfection looks good. There's power with imperfection. Yes. You don't want everything looking too great. It's human. I like I like shit that looks a little raw. Especially now with AI coming up, dude. Exactly. Exactly. It's Scary. Like, you don't. Who wants perfect? It's like. That's why AI. Who wants to watch a perfect movie. Sometimes you like those raw movies where it's like shaky, and nobody wants to watch a perfect, like, and nobody gets nobody gets a fuck about that. And and sometimes the imperfections are actually what uh get people talking Exactly. about the thing. You know, like exactly how often you just talk about like, oh, that was there was nothing wrong with that thing. I enjoyed that movie.

Yeah, there was nothing. wrong with it. Who says that. Like, you often times. I mean, whether it's just like human human psychology. I feel like it's like we love to point out the imperfections. You know, you know who does that? You know who shoot one of my one my boy, one of my best friends, uh Young Ankle. Okay, It's a great name. Uncle Lev. He does a lot of future videos. One of the hardest directors in his okay, yeah. I've heard the name, but I'm not hard as fuck. Does everything his what's his name? Young Ankle Uncle Lev. Young Ankle, Uncle Lev. Lev. His Instagram is Young Ankle, so I'm just I'm just shouting my boy out, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Follow young ankle, bro. Come on, boy. Follow young Ankle. But you know what it's fine. That's one of my boys. And I'm like, we have these talks all the time, man. It's like he he he understands, he keeps that shit raw and keeps it like he does all future videos. Yeah, keeps it raw. Looking at his the videos that future can do all these videos with these big ass directors. I golf with him.

This is my guy left, bro. I play golf with him. Wait, the videos that he's had. That's the one that's always at juju and you left, bro. The videos that left us are my favorite because it's raw, it's real. You've never dude. Who are you even having conversations with these people when you're golfing? Holy fuck, Henry's golf with this guy, what? How many times? 10? Probably 10 times. And I I'm like, is he good at golfing? He's pretty good. He's solid. Don't fucking cap right now, bro. I love his demeanor the most. He's just a fun dude. But his golf skills. because he's real. He's a real he's a capricorn just like me. We're literally Is he good at golfing. We're literally eight days before. Like When's your birthday. eight days. I'm eight days younger than him. When's your birthday? I'm January 10th. 10th? Yes. December 23rd. Okay. Look at all the caps in here. He's a Cap too. Big cap energy in the room right now. Aquarius here, boys. Oh, man. You close. I'm sorry. You're gonna pop that a little more. If a sign war breaks out. A little more preemie. You're in trouble.

You know, I came out, I came out in nine months. Damn. Like punctual. Or like six months. It was something early. I forgot. Oh, I was like, shit. Not much. Nine months sounds punctual, but no, it was six months. It's actually ten months. They lied to you. It's not nine months. It's ten months. I was pretty much short as fuck. They said I'd be lucky to reach past four feet. And I was short my whole life. You're at least six feet, right? So I'm six one. Yeah. So when my mom told me, she was like, when I finally got tall, she's like, we were all worried about you. Thanks, mom. Oh fuck. I was like, what? You did that because I used to play basketball. You know, that was my first dream. Yeah. Yeah. No, I know. We got a hoop still for sure. Um so so for like a video like solid plan with you know Larry, Alchemist, Action Bronson, and starring Hassan. Now that was a whole crew, you know. No, for sure. That had to be, right? But I do want to just get, you know, for some of the aspiring like directors out there and you know, music video uh folks, like there's gotta be something that there's never like a perfect smooth sailing production, I feel like, right? There's always like curveballs.

It's always curveballs. What it's about rolling with the punches. Yeah. What what what kind of curveballs have like come your way recently? Whether it was that shoot or maybe like another one that has been, you know, kind of recent. Like what are just to like I mean, that's every shoot. That's literally every shoot. Even that shoot, like, I had so much more shots that I'll cut out that call out that situation. What? Let's call it. Which one? The last one. Oh boy, the team. Let's hear it. I don't know what you're talking about. See? Keep rolling. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. This sounds like a good one. This sounds so good. I don't know I don't know what you're talking about it. Which one? Okay. I don't know if it's like someone didn't break bread? What are you talking about? Someone didn't break bread. Who? Oh. Here we go. Oh. Come on, Sean. Oh, I shot that bitch ass motherfucker out right now. Okay, let's go.

Solid plan video off top. Yeah, this bitch ass motherfucker, my producer. Man, he pulled a bitch ass move. Hey, his name is Andrew. Okay. Okay. Art gang Andrew, bitch ass motherfucker. Where does he, where does he live? Man, Everybody know him. Everybody know him, everybody know him. He done videos for years, man. This motherfucker still owe my crew some bread. Your bitch ass. We gonna find you. Oh shit. Straight up. So what happened? Bitch ass. What actually happened? He just didn't cut the tape. That's all I'm gonna say at that. Oh wow. I ain't saying no more else bro. Well, that's not helpful for our audience. I'm just saying that. That pissed me off. Be careful with who you work with, I guess. Be careful who you work with, man. Do your research. I can't believe you said that, motherfucker. Oh man. But yeah. Oh yeah. I'll call it out though. I mean I really I got nothing to hide. How do you um it's game time? Bitch ass motherfucker. How do you handle uh those types of like not that situation? I don't know even what happened there, but like when there are curveballs of like you know, talents late, uh like you know, weather, whatever like that. Yeah, but we have curveballs all the time. Like, yeah, so how do you deal with

that? Even for that video, I had like a bunch of scenes I wanted with action, and he had to leave early, so I couldn't get one. of them. So only I only could really get two shots. And I had like two more one to get, but that happens all the time. Like, I you know you know, you know how I experienced that with one time it was Mulatto. I used to do a lot of mulatto videos When she blew up. Okay, big lotto. Big lotto big lotto. I did a lot, I did the ATL whole video. But like I remember one time, it was this video with, with Scooter. It was Scooter, Carlay, you know, Carlay, Young Thug, ex-girl. Yeah, and uh and young scooter, of course, and uh mulatto. Yeah, and the whole time I'm over here stressing about, I'm like, man, I know them. I just haven't met Mulatto yet. So I didn't know Mulatto yet. I keep calling Mulatto, my best. Mulatto, whatever. I call it, I met her as Mulatto, so I'm like, oh, that's fine. But everyone knows. So I the whole time I was like, man, because I needed her to stay late. I was like, I need that third scene very hard.

And the whole time I'm wearing like, man, I'm I'm I'm stressing my crew. I'm like, bro, I really hope like she's cool, man. I'm so nervous. I hope she's cool, like that she can stay for these shots because we're gonna need her late. Mm-hmm. Man, tell me why. She was the coolest one out of everyone, and that's why, and she was down to do whatever, and that's why she is where she is, because she understands and she's down to work. Her work ethic is crazy, and that's why that's why Mulatto is there right now. Yeah, killing it. Bro, and she was down. She stayed, literally stayed up till fucking 6 a.m. with me. Whatever I needed. She was like, Oh, I'm down. What do you need? I'm down. She was grinding. That she was she is one of the biggest to me, like prime examples, bro. That can be rare in this in this industry. No, but like, Mulatto is a beast. Bro, bro, if if people aren't gonna fucking hear this enough, like can y'all open up your fucking ears and she's from Riverdale. That's why I already knew. Like people from Riverdale are humble and real.

That's why I love working with people from the South Side. Did you know Waka at all? I I knew of him when I was younger. Yeah. Because uh I mean we know him now. We all kick it with him and shit. Like, we we can always hang out. Whenever I hear Riverdale, I just think Riverdale! It's crazy because I knew of him when I was younger. Like, yeah, just from like the hit squad shit, like the gang shit. And like we always oh, let's do it, changed my life. I'll say it. We knew him, but we already knew him before. Like, if you know Riverdale, like you there was Southside Mafia, there was Hit Squad, there was 220, and like, but hit squad was like the opposite of Southside Mafia and 220. That's what I was I grew up around Southside Mafia in 220, but hit squad was like, those were the ones that was living in, they lived in, they went to North Clayton and I went to Riverdale, so it was like the North Clayton ones. The other side of the town. It was, yeah, but it was still Riverdale. Yeah. But like they were like, they were the ones always fresh as hell, getting money. Like, you low key wanted to be with them.

I was like, man, it's fresh as hell. I got the green bandanas. Yeah, I mean, you were in the hand-me-down Barbie uh flip-flops, right? Like, no, this is a high school. I'm talking about high school now. I don't know what you were wearing in high school. I was fresh as fuck. I was best dressed all through high school. You know how I was really killing in high school? How? No one knows. So Larry went to I don't know. Larry would probably be mad if I tell you all this, but I don't give a fuck. So we need it. Larry went to Bear Creek in middle school. And I went to Riverdale or high school. Talking about high school. Was Bear Creek? Well, fuck it. High school, whatever, middle school, whatever. I think he went to Creek High High School. But fucking he would uh we would swap our clothes. Like our my first weeks, like this is when I was wearing like baggy ass shit and bathing apes and shit. Oh, I've seen the I've seen the old school photos. So we would swap. So his first week outfit was my second week outfit. So we were fresh as hell because Larry was always fresh as hell. And I was always fresh as hell.

Like I was cutting grass. I had my own lawn business, so I would always get all my clothes from like old Nat Discount Mall. No one would know that about me. So you were entrepreneurial as fuck, like from a uh me and Scoon had our own lawn business, bro. Shout out to Scoon. Me and Scoon had our own lawn business. We might need a schoon interview at some point. Just because I love him. Me and Scoon need to do it together. Just because I love him. Me and Scoon used to fucking bro, we had we we had flyers, SD lawn services. Wow. We made the flyer. I made the flyer on uh Microsoft Word. Nice. Oh shit. Back then on my fucking PC. Hell yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, I mean, so obviously you're you know an entrepreneur through and through at this point. Like, what what are some you know tips, I guess, for people that are like trying to start their own business, right? Because I mean you've you've started multiple businesses, I feel like. Man, it's just being consistent, man. Yes, I don't know, It's just doing it. It's literally just action, bro. It's not about talking about it, It's just doing it. Everyone talk about it all day.

Just do it and have fun with it. Yes, who gives a fucking? Pick something that you'll have fun doing. Just have fun with it. That's key. I just cutting grass was always easy, and I actually enjoyed it. I was I'd be like, I don't have a house right now. I have a condo. And I was like, I know people with houses. I'm like, you don't cut your own grass. I don't cut my own grass. I was like, why though? I would totally hire SD lawn service. Like if you guys are still in business. Cutting grass is so Cutting grass is so therapeutic. If you wanted to cut my lawn, bro. I can't wait to cut grass. I'd pay you. I can't wait. I can't wait to cut my own lawn. Who cuts lawns for free and shit? Oh, bro. Yeah, I'll do it. I really I literally cannot wait to cut my own lawn. Bro, you can cut mine anytime you want, bro. Like, I just need a lawn, Ben's got one. Yeah, I can do it for $50. Oh shit. I paid 60, bro. Hey, hey, help me, man. We're getting it's a recession right now. We're getting down. I'm about to start my own lawn, lawn services. I think the only Sean and Holden lawn services. It's an H. It's an H.

The stock market getting tricky right now. I think the OnlyFan, uh I think the OnlyFans management is probably gonna pay you more than uh my lawn bill. Probably a better choice, yeah. No, man. I I think you know it's the consistency, and I love about I love what you said about the action, man. I mean, we talk about this, bro. It's like sometimes we get on these calls and like he's really good about thinking through things with me, and like that's great. But I'm also sometimes of like just bro, like let's let's stop talking somewhat and like let's just fucking get it. You know what I mean? Exactly, and then it's all action, man, and like we're seeing results. Like when we're staying consistent to your point, like we've you know, doubled or tripled our like social media following in the last few months. Like, we've been going crazy, and like it's a fuck ton of work. What's your vice? Tell me what your vice is. My vice? It was cocaine for a while. For real? I mean, no, I can't say you stopped it. Uh, yeah, I did. See, you gotta sacrifice something, and that's why you're doing good right now. Yeah, it's all about sacrificing. That one. Music, music saved my life. God won't bless you until you sacrifice that one. Yeah, and you know, you know what mine was?

I had a sex addiction addiction. Mm-hmm, I believe it. And sometimes you gotta, you gotta cut that shit out. And I stopped and I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna do it. Completely. Not completely. I was just trying to like but it's real, right? Like that was was that as, you know, I don't know if you struggle with other addictions, but like, was that as powerful as like I, you know, I haven't. I just went through a phase. It wasn't even no addiction, it was just like, it's affecting your life. Where I knew I was like, I was like, damn, I'm I'm like always like doing all that extra shit. I was like, you just know, like as I was saying earlier, how I feel like we're being controlled by sexual shit. Like, because it's kind of hard. I mean, think about it. You go to your phone, I go on my phone right now. First thing I'm gonna see is a fat ass. Yeah, and I'm like, fuck, damn, look at this. And I'm like, damn. She's got a link in her bio. And it's like, yeah, where does it take you? It's like First thing you see, it's like, what the fuck?

Like, we're men, we're not gay. Like, shit, we're fucking, we're mammals, we're creatures. This is what we like, we wanna this this is in our DNA. Yeah, yeah, but when you put that shit in our face, it makes it a little harder. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I don't know. I look at it like I think I think sometimes God, God will bless you if you if you put that sacrifice down, you sacrifice that one thing that you know is bad for you. Because it ain't sometimes people say it's alcohol. It ain't alcohol. Sometimes alcohol is that tool, but at the end of the day, why do motherfuckers drink? Because they want to get pussy. Often. They go out. They don't just drink because they love alcohol. They drink because they want to talk to bitches. And they use that as a tool. Courage. So it's like at the end of the day, the end of the the bigger picture is sex addiction. I don't even think his shit is alcohol addiction. Motherfuckers don't have alcohol addictions. They have pussy addictions. Damn. That's a hot take. I'm telling you. Yeah. And I and I started realizing. Cause like all my friends, all they give a fuck about is pussy.

I got a lot of friends in Atlanta. Buckhead. No, I'm not pointing at Buckhead. No, Buckhead though. You were pointing at Buckhead. I'm just saying. No, no, no. You gonna fold me out. Shut up, shut up. I wasn't talking about Buckhead. I wasn't talking about Buckhead. He's talking about this. guy. Shut up. Shut up. I ain't talking about. you wanted to get a line. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, like I was pointing that way, like Buckhead. I'm not at Buckhead. I got a lot of motherfucking. Buckhead is that way. I'm just saying. They hold their whole. Their whole. Their whole life is who am I gonna fuck this weekend? Yeah. And I'm like, is that fulfilling? Yeah. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie, bro, though. I mean, it's interesting hearing this from you because like historically, I've been, you know, following you for a bit. Has that been your like has I went through that phase? Yeah, because like I'm not gonna lie. In 2021, though. I had a girlfriend. I've been following you for a bit. You know. You're talking about Sean Kelly. That's what we're talking about. No, that's it, though. Good shit. I went through that phase in 2021, so I understand it. Yeah, it just it's but I can only I learn from my mistakes.

It seems like the environment. I don't make the same mistakes twice. Could be tough. So I learned if I if I know something ain't working, I'm like, all right, this ain't working. And I and I remove myself. That's why I love Buckhead. I used to live in Buckhead, and I I had a little nice little high rise, and guess where I'm at now? Back in my condo, I used to rent out. Oh somewhere ducked off. I don't even want to say the location. It's fine, but the secret location. OTP in the game. But nobody knows. Yeah. Still in there, still. It's not in the city, but it's like low-key. Yeah, yeah. You wouldn't even know where I'm at. Yeah, I mean, because to be honest, man, like the the environment that you, you know, definitely were in on like the regular, regular. It was bad. It had to be hard, man. I mean, it. was hard. It's hard. I tell her, like, this dude's been like this is living crazy, bro. Like, just as far as like, yeah, I mean, I could totally understand how that, you know, that's not sustainable for someone who gets maybe what's actually going on. You know what I mean? But for some, it's fine, you know. And you know, I'm I'm a spiritual guy.

Like, I literally like, you know, I like real shit. I like, I don't I like quality. I don't like surface level bullshit. I don't want any surface level girls around me no more. All that egotistical shit. I like girls that can help me raise my frequency, like Something. something. Yeah, yeah. Give me something, do something for me spiritually, mentally, something stimulate me. I don't give a fuck how fine you are. I don't give a fuck about that. I need more. And that's where I'm at now. I need something more. Yeah. Nah, that's that's big. Like, we're too old for that. I'm ready to have a family, so I want to have a family. Yeah. I want to have kids. I'm ready to do that. Well, I don't well, maybe not kids yet. Kids yet. But maybe if you know be very certain that you want children. It is a big We're getting older. Life changing. moment. Um, but yeah, so I mean, you posted about uh, I think this is like a while ago, but you posted something about you know, shit looks good now, but obviously, like you've had you know dark periods throughout your journey, you know what I mean? And like everyone, it's easy for everyone to look at.

I mean, shit, even with us seeing some success, like with the podcast, it's like, bro, we were fucking not shit, bro. When we first started, we were on a fucking pool table, bro, and now we're on this nice set, and everyone thinks that like, you know, we're fucking everything's all good. And and I think you had posted something about similar to that, where it's like, bro, like these past eight, 10 years, whatever it was, have been like hard, man, and like putting in the work. And you mentioned the consistency thing, but like just to point out, like nobody believes it in the beginning, man. Yeah. You gotta give them a reason to believe. Yeah. It's crazy because everybody that didn't believe back then, they believe it now. Yeah. And it's kind of sick to see, to be honest. And just Instagram is such a highlight reel. You don't see the grind. You don't see the work. You just see the it's just fucked up. Like it it kind of like shows me just the reality of shit when it's like, I remember back then, like I I'm a Capricorn, so I hold grudges. I hold grudges forever. Like, if I know you did me wrong back then, I'll I remember motherfuckers that did me wrong in in in kindergarten.

And I will hold that grudge forever. It's safe to say you're not gonna work with that producer Andrew anymore. Isn't it? Yeah. Oh, hell no. Okay. It's safe to say you suck my dick. Okay. You better pay up, bitch. On that note, Henry, we have entered a final segment of the podcast. Oh shit. Take us away, my friend. This is everyone's favorite part of the podcast, of course. This is the rapid fire rampage. Sean, let's go. It's gonna be three parts. Gonna start easy. Some short answer questions. Here we go. Oh hook me up. I'm going to need another hot toddy for this. I need a hot toddy. can we take a bathroom break real quick? Yeah, we can. All right. I gotta do that. is. Fuck. Well, this is the last part. We can here, we'll do it. We'll make it real quick. Hold up. We'll start easy. Alright. This will make it rapid. This is gonna be the fastest rap. This is gonna be the most rapid rapid fire rampage. Let's go. All right, let's read it. Starting off easy. Sean, what happens when you die? What happens when you die? Hmm.

I think you morph back into another body instantly. Reincarnate. Okay, he's a he's a reincarnator. Okay, for sure. I like it. Sean, the Sean Kelly album is coming out this fall. What is it called? And what does it sound like? The Sean Kelly album? Yep. Your debut album. You're rapping again. The process. It's called The Process. It's a hard game. That is dope. No, that's good. I love that. I like that. It could be. No, that's it. Process. What does it sound like? What kind of vibes? Is it rap? It's an expression. It's expression. It's Abstract. It's everything. Okay. It's me just letting my emotions be free. The free-minded. Mm-hmm. Love it. Sean, what? Actually, and we've kind of hinted at this, so this is a funny one, but I already had it on here. What do the the pictures in your Instagram Explorer look like? Can I go look? Oh, no. I thought he was gonna immediately say fat asses, but like actually, it's hella cars.

Okay, hella SL500s and uh Okay. It's really just cars. Look at this shit. Oh, wow. I love cars. I'm a car guy, man. I love cars. He is. I don't give a fuck about bitches no more. He's got the proof. Damn it. I done did that already. cars are my vice. I love cars. Yeah, man. Cars is what I fall in love with. If we would have interviewed him a little while ago, though, it would have been just fat asses. It would have been way better. Got him at a good time. Look, Look, it's all cars. I know what I'm saying, but like in the past. I ain't going to lie. I love the new, He's getting a little He's going to end up buying something before the end of this. I found his new... he's tweaking. a little bit over there, bro. I found his SL600. Oh shit. I'm about to grab that shit. clean. Shit, he's tweaking. Clean as fuck. I'm gonna throw the monoblock rims on that thing. Oh damn. Clean as fuck. Let's go. Let's go. Sean, since tomatoes are fruit, is a ketchup, is ketchup a smoothie. Hell no. Hell yeah.

You heard it very first. Yes. And finally, this is the cosign corner presented by Guayaki, Yerba Mate. Sean, who are a few just creators, like young guys, artists or directors that you're excited about that are coming up? Who can we look out for? Like, you said artists? Artists, directors, any creative, really. Anyone that we should keep our eyes on that you you're liking what they're doing. Yeah, who you rocking with? Uh show as we're looking for the shout out. Hold on. I'm not gonna lie. All right, my boy Fish. Okay. Okay. I wanted to shout Fish out regardless. My boy. Fish. This is the moment. Fish is from Texas. Okay. Texas artists. He's gonna be the next TFM artist. Okay. Okay. He's gonna actually be my artist. Like fish is fire. Okay. I need to hear fish. We need that Texas sound back. Yes. Fish is gonna bring it. Watch. Okay. Wait till y'all see. Wait till y'all hear fish. There's some dope artists coming out of Texas right now, though. So hell yeah. He's gonna bring that real 90, that chopped and screwed, that player. That player.

Oh that. It's my boy, man. It's my boy. I know him since high school. He left to Texas. as soon as he's ready. I'm like, bro, as soon as you're ready, come on. All right, fish. We're about to go crazy. Moving on to part two. This is the this or that. Sean, I'm gonna give you two choices. You just gotta pick one. Very simple. Starting with rapping or singing? Like for me? Rapping, just yeah. No information. No con no other context. Rapping or singing. Rapping. Text or call. Text. LA or ATL? LA. Drums or melodies. Drums. You hate Atlanta right now, but it's fine. I hate Atlanta. He hates Atlanta. That's fine. I hate melodies. We we don't like him right now either. We hate melodies. That too, I guess. Hot or lemon pepper. Damn. Both. Yes. That's the only correct answer. Combined. Damn. Rock, paper, or scissors. Rock. Babies or dogs.

Dogs. Rich or genius. Genius. And finally, work exclusively country music and country videos or retire from music and film. Say it again. Only country music or leave music and videos. Gotta go to the country. You're only doing country music now. Or you gotta leave. Oh. I'll do country. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Part two. I'll fuck with the country vibes. Part two. Okay, this is the final part. This is the word association. We go crazy with the country music. That's right. I'm not mad at country music. I'll get on it. I'm actually coming to Me too. Oh my God, we have not talked about this. We will. We're going to talk about this. Me and O to be fucking around, making some country music. Bro, I'm kinda liking country a little bit. I love that. I used to hate it, but I'm as I get older. I like it. I like it most of the time. Like coming out of my sister loved the rascal flats, and I fucking hated them and just all of that. Yeah, I never got into it. either. Oh my god, like 04 country. Fuck you, but I used to always say I like everything but country, but Me too! Dude! That was my thing to say. But country?

Shout out to you guys. Like, you know what? Music sucks now. So it ain't okay. at least country is real. Everything else is brought up. I hate rap now. I hate rap now. I'll say that right now. Okay, he's it's a little saturated. Yeah, I'm kind of there, but we won't do that. I hate to be that old guy to say, I know, I know, yeah. I do. I do it too much, so Sorry. there's only room for one of those people on the pod. I know, I know. So you know. You're funny as hell. Yeah, I'm like, there's only one old head allowed. I'm that old head Me too. I'm really that old man. Sounds like we're three for three here. But anyway, moving on to this is the final part of the rapid fire. Rampage. Sean, this is the word association. I'm gonna say one word, and you just say the first word off the top of your head right back at me. All right. Let's go. Starting as always with hip hop. Joel Santana. Okay. Fire Dipset, bitch. Fire answer. Piano. That's one of my favorite rappers, is why I say that. I know. Yeah, he's great. It's great. I'm gonna have that debate. I'm ready to debate whenever. Alright, piano.

Uh Alicia Keys. No hints holding. I'm sorry. Alicia Keys. Alicia, I like it. Damn. Tarantino. Like Queen Tanzano? No further info. No further information. No further information. You just said Tarantino. Yeah, that's it. Blood. Blood. Yeah. Okay. Pickleball. Jamie Foxx. yeah. Oh God, don't open that door. Kidney. Holden. No, just like. I know my man. Oh, damn. I didn't know what I was going to say. I didn't know you had to kidney disease. I'm talking shit. Sorry. I'll try to make you laugh. I'm drunk as hell. Dessert. Ice cream sandwich.

Scam. Atlanta. Flamingo. He hates Atlanta, bro. Flamingo? Flamingo. Miami. Wi-Fi. Sean. How's everyone asking me questions? Lil. Bow Wow. God, you're old. Why would I say Lil Bow? Because you're old. I should have said Lil' Zane. Some random shit. Couple more here. Only fans. Passive income. And finally, the free. Minded. Minded. What an interview. What an interview. This guy has stories. I feel like we could have heard stories for hours. This like scratched the surface. As always, please like, comment, and subscribe if you fuck with this interview. This has been Sean Kelly of the free minded.

Yes. An Atlanta hater, apparently. We're gonna talk about that. I love Atlanta, man. Yes. I just wish it was more originality. Ah, well. Fair enough. Everyone's the same. Yeah. Until next week, Henry, what are we doing? We're getting out of here. We're getting the fuck out of here. Peace out, Tibby.