Quentin Miller Interview: Should Rappers Use Ghostwriters?

It's really taboo, you know, to be a collaborator with a rapper. Yeah. It just causes such a conversation about you know what you did and whatever, you know what I'm saying? And it's tough, man. It makes it tough to be like proud of your work and tell people about your work when it's like it causes this s***, you know? So you should be able to talk about what you've done without having, and let me clarify also for some one more time I'm absolutely honored to be welcoming in on the One More Time podcast, champion hockey player from Montreal. It's Quentin Miller. Oh my god. Yes, sir. That's that's the more famous Quentin Miller. I worked hard. We couldn't get that. We couldn't get that QM. I worked hard to get to this level. There's two Quentin Millers. What? Yeah. Who is this? This is the other Quentin Miller. Oh, okay. No, this is Penzel Washington. This is Pen Affleck. This is Penn Roethlisberger. We got Penn

Diesel. We got Quentin Miller. Goddamn. Goddamn. What's up, everybody? In the Building. Those nicknames were wild. Those are pretty good. Yeah, I stole those from our friend Dre Majesty, so shout out to Dre. Sorry about that. Those are pretty good. I think he refers to himself as all those. And he has really, really good bars. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. But yo, so I just want to like make sure we're all good here. So he was wearing a Michigan hat in the in the Rory and Mall interview. So like no, we're not good. Should we just end it now? I mean, let's talk about how the dominance of Ohio State over Michigan in every sport in last 20 years. And people people stop me all the time about that hat when I wear it. I I just like the hat. Okay. So you're not a fan. I'm I'm pretty much Georgia everything. Okay. I was hoping for some like beef to start this episode off. I'm a Falcons fan, I'm a Hawks fan. So is he, Damn it. Yeah, we're cool. I root for the dogs, but honestly, I don't really watch a lot of college football, but I dislike Bama so much that I root for Auburn sometimes. Sure, sure.

No, no, we're oh, we're super cool. We're beyond cool. Okay. Damn. But fuck that hat. It doesn't look that cool. It's just a yellow M. Do you want to get him an Ohio State hat? I will buy you an Ohio State hat. You ever seen the Crimson and Silver O? Yeah. All right. He's not impressed. All right, So we had a debate about the greatest of all time rapper conversation, right? And so we were basically ranking the criteria that should be evaluated when you're having this debate, right? Okay. So we talked about should the greatest of all time rapper write all of their own lyrics. Hmm. Do you think, as obviously someone who's infamous for writing bars for other, you know, poppin' artists, and obviously yourself. Like, do you think that is a requirement, right? Like, does a rapper have to write their own lyrics to be in that conversation for greatest of all time? So answering this question is a little complex for me.

Let's hear it. Yeah. You're in the interesting side of this. Because it could actually uh, you know, in my line of work. I see where you're going on. You know what I'm saying? So it can seriously stop the calls. No, no, not at all. I think no too, man. I think no, too. At the end of the So they don't have to write their own lyrics. No, you have to make the best song. All right. Okay. You said they had to write their own lyrics. No, I didn't. Bro. Bro. Cue the fucking clip. Don't do it. Don't do it. Cue the fucking clip, bro. Rapping is about rapping abilities, not writing abilities. I would argue that writing ability is part of being a great rapper. Did I say that? It helped. It helps. It helps with your position the more So it is something to evaluate. on your own. Wow. I I would say that. You do, okay. I would say that. Like Andre 3000 is one of the greatest lyricists of all time. Yes.

If I found out he was not the only one writing those verses, it would impair the way that I look at it. It would hurt my soul. You know what I'm saying? Like even though he's delivering it well and he could be just the deliverer, but so what you're saying is hip hop has a different set of rules than every other genre. For example, Michael Jackson did not write thriller. So this doesn't apply to him. No country artist writes any of their own fucking hit songs. Beyonce, Taylor Swift, they have armies of writers. Why is that? I feel like what people miss out on is the fact that hip hop has become pop. And at the end of the day, when you're talking pop, you're just talking about the best biggest records that you could get. And it's not necessarily who gives a fuck, you know, about how you get to it as long as you get to it. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I think on the on the pop side of hip hop, which you know, hip hop did become, even though we're starting to see the decline now for the first time in 50 years, but uh, you know, on the on the pop side of it, it just it just changed the game and it made it more about the results. You know what I'm saying?

Like, and who cares how you get to the results, you know? And and it doesn't really take away because you know, a lot of songs, if you hear the reference to it, it's not as good as the final product. You know what I'm saying? Like, because at the end of the day, delivery is just as much about a, you know, somebody can make a uh uh super five-star chef steak and serve it to you on a little kid's Sesame Street plate, paper plate, you know what I'm saying? And you will look at this shit like what the fuck is this? You know what I'm saying? So it's like the presentation is just as much, if not sometimes more, than you know how it was prepared, you know. You're right, but they got the little splashes of sauce all over the plates, and they got the garnishes that you're not fucking eating anyways. Exactly. Bro, I just watched, I literally just watched a video on this, and they said that like literally the same exact food plated beautifully and presented in a beautiful way, made people think that it was like 30 to 40 times or percent more delicious. Yeah, man, Perception is everything.

Wow, it's all about perception. I saw this little clip where uh Payless Shoes, they they like rented out the space and they like made a fancy name. And I've seen this same payless shoes for like six times the price or whatever. That was a while ago, but yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and people were like, oh my god, this shoe is so it's amazing. You had no idea it's fucking payless, you know. So presentation is is really everything, and that's that's even with music too. God, Humans are dumb marketing is just we are stupid psychology. You just gotta understand psychology at this point. Holy shit. Yeah. So how accepted would you say songwriting in hip hop is now? Like today. I think that uh Quentin Miller and Drake died on the cross for for rappers to be able to. Bless you. you are our Lord and Savior, Quentin. For for rappers to be able to, you know, freely just collaborate. I I I'm not even talking ghostwrite because at the end of the day, you gotta make the uh the decision on what what goes and what what doesn't go.

You can have somebody write you a line, and it could not be a good line. And for you to be able to differentiate, okay, this line is a power bar, this line is you know, okay, whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like that's that's a real skill, you know, and it's it's tough. It's actually it's really tough. How much ghostwriting do you think still exists versus just songwriters in rap? Um like does that still exist? Are there still ghostwriters? Like uncovered. I mean, we will never know, you know what I'm saying? But like what you've maybe heard, or like even anyone you know, you don't think I drop names, but like, do you know of anyone that's out there? I mean, I wouldn't even want to hint at that. You know what I'm saying? Okay. I mean, you you wouldn't know, you know what I'm saying? Like somebody could find somebody that nobody knows about at all and have them, you know what I'm saying? So it's like you would never know until you know. It's like at the end of the day, it's whatever. Like, it's just like the game plan for that team, you know what I'm saying?

It's like we're coming up with this game plan, we're gonna run this play, this offense, da-da-da. You might have an offensive coordinator, you might have a defensive coordinator, whatever, as the head coach or whatever, you know what I'm saying? You pick the right plays and you you go with it, you know. So it's uh it's the the game is more complex than what people want to give it, you know. There's a there's a level where it's just bars. There's a level where it's just if you're just talking just rap, just bars, just the sport of rap, you know what I'm saying? Man, that's a different conversation from the the actual game, you know what I'm saying, of of just playing professional rap. From getting W's. So do you think if you would have been writing for a different team to use you know, you know, to use your own analogy there, right? Do you think that the situation like with Drake and Meek would have played out differently? Like if you would have been writing for a different artist with a different plan and a different head coach and a different offensive coordinator, whatever. Like, do you think that played it all into it?

Um, yeah, that's at the end of the day, that's just uh what it could have said like, you know, yeah, who knows? Who knows how things would have played out? I think he was writing for Bama and then Auburn published their playbook. So Michigan and Ohio State had nothing to do with this. I mean, I'm trying to let that one live for sure. So, you know, what are your top three criteria when you are evaluating like the greatest of all time rapper, right? Because we mentioned whether we thought writing your own lyrics should be in there or not, you know, if you were to categorize like your top three things that you're we could give ours, maybe too, just to give them some. Yeah, give him yours just to give him some context on that. My number one was um flow. Yeah, so like not actually the words that you're saying, but your rhythm and your bounce and your flow. Like I could listen to a Japanese guy rapping, and if he's just like in that pocket and writing the beat, maybe doing this in the music video, then I'm entertained. And Wayne is my favorite artist, rapper of all time, and he's to me he's the flow god.

Okay, so that's what I attract. Yeah, gets me first. And so then obviously another one would be like songwriting, right? Like, how good are your lyrics and if you're writing them? Yeah, and then there'd be maybe like beat selection could be like a third, or you know, for example. So, so like, what you know, when you're having this debate with your homies or whatever, what what are you putting as the like top three things that actually matter in this conversation? Okay, I mean, it just it depends on what you're talking about. Like and like who's your go-to rapper? If you're talking about like top three rappers, like just of all time with rap encompassing everything because there's different if you're just talking just ability to rap, that's a different conversation. No, we're talking like all encompassing. All encompassing everything, yeah. Yes. Some people know how to rap, but they can't arrange a song for shit. Yeah, and that kills them. You know, uh, I mean, we when you talk about the all three when it comes to that, it I don't know. It kind of it's almost as predictable as the top three NBA players conversations, like you know Jordan's gonna be in there somewhere, you know Kobe's gonna be in there somewhere. I don't know.

People people got some fucked up top three in rappers, bro. Yeah, people like dude, there's people that are. for the most part. I don't know, let's hear your talk. Okay. Yeah. All right. You know what? Let me not say that. Let me not say that. I think you're assuming a lot of like the average rap fan, bro. Let me fix that. Let me fix that. Yeah, let me not say for the most part. We're not gonna edit that, by the way. I'm editing it right now. This is the edit. This is the edit. This is a live edit, folks. This is the edit. Thank God our editors are like, Jesus, thank the Lord. Not for the most part. He's editing himself. It depends on what generation person you're talking to. You know what I'm saying? He's putting so many rules on this. If you talk to a generation is big, bro. He's huge. I just I just watched You're right. Some kid is thinking Cardi's the best rapper. Oh, for sure. No, facts, facts. Or, I'm trying to think what player. What player? It was like Kareem or somebody. He was naming his top three. He named nothing but old heads. Yeah. John Stockton.

The youngest person he named was Jordan. Yeah. Other than that, it was like Isaiah or shit. You know what I'm saying? Like this is O.G. And so it's just like. Bro, I if I asked my dad, you know, who who's your favorite rappers, he's gonna say run DMC. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, God. But to his generation, I hear it, bro. That was that new little O.G. That was a shit, bro. Oh, y'all heard that DMC? DMC's hard. Crazy. That shit was going crazy. It was crazy. BC boys, all that shit. You know what I'm saying? But like yours, Quentin Miller. Top three. Okay, for me. Let's go. We need this. Uh Jay-Z Kanye Drake, no order. Damn, that was that was fast. It was. He's thought about this. And the respect for Drake after everything that happened. I respect that. I love that. Yeah, come on, man. I uh gotta be a realist. Yeah. I'm not one of them, like I'm not about to be like, oh no, he's no, I don't I don't do that, bro. Yeah, yeah. He's undeniable, bro.

Yeah, for sure. The man's great. Yeah. Has one of the best, one of the best voices in music history. Yes. I agree. Bro, because I think where Drake shines, and this was one of uh, I think it was maybe one of my top five, was cultural impact. Yeah. And like he's absolutely just changed the trajectory of like the state of music. The way he was able to blend his voice and like the singing aspect of what he did into hip hop. Like that shit wasn't really happening. That can go to every world. Every world, and do it. better. And Sound good. And do it better. Not even sound good. Do it better. That too. A lot of times, just sounding good. Just be okay at it. Yeah. Because everybody doesn't sound good in every realm. Like there's some people that might try singing and you don't really sound that good singing. Some people might try some hippity hop shit, and uh you more you're you're better with the club shit. Yeah. When you try that, you kind of sound a little lost. But he's like one of the only ones that you know sounds A1 in every department.

He does. He does a he does a house album and it sounds pretty good. He does Memphis rap with like BlocBoy JB. It sounds good. He does reggaeton. It doesn't matter, dude. He's a chameleon. Yeah. He just sinks into his environment, soaks it up, and produces. It's impressive. Yeah, that's crazy. Exactly. So, you know, you've gone on record saying that like due to a very shitty publishing deal, you did not see an official like publishing check from the songs that you were working on. And it's weird too, because everybody's still like, oh, I I see a lot of posts and shit still say like Drake never paid Quinn. Yeah. I was in a publishing deal prior to meeting Drake. I don't, you know, so it has nothing to do with Drake or OVO. Yeah. No, exactly. So what I want our because you know, our audience is a lot of aspiring producers, artists, songwriters, like people that are trying to make it in the music industry, right? So I think it's it's good for them to hear this.

Like, what kind of publishing deal did you enter into, right? That made it, let's say, an unfavorable situation. If you're able to share, I don't know, like, you know, if you're able to talk, because we just want to help them avoid. It was a bad one. It was just one that had no back door for me to exit. It was one that they literally could hold over my head forever. And you know, they probably would have never let me out if uh, you know, timing was everything. You know, it was just a really dull time for me, and nothing was going on. So if I would have had something going on, I probably would still be in that deal. Damn. To this day, you know what I'm saying? But I had to you almost have to lose momentum to get out of that. Come to a complete halt. Yeah. You know, really be like in a desperate situation, you know. Damn. No timing, no time constraints. That's crazy. So that deal that I mean, I don't know, man.

That that really hurt, man. Cause again, I mean, I said it before, but you know, it's like I really put my trust into that situation. And, you know, I didn't I I didn't have no ties to the music industry outside of you know that situation. So it's like when that got cut off, it was like I was closed off from everything, you know. Thank God for you know, the coolest Mac and Shout out Mac one time, man. Shout out Mac. And 2-9 and you know, the whole wave that was going on in Atlanta to keep me inspired to keep trying music. Cause outside of that, you know, I thought it was over with for me, you know what I'm saying? So yeah. So did you have a lawyer like help you with this deal? Clearly not. I'm just like I'm trying to make sure that people don't you know enter into these types of agreements. Like, was it a lack of legal advice on this or like yeah to get into details about how it went wrong, I gotta put I don't want to put people on blast. It's it's people that I made peace with and stuff like that.

So I don't want to I definitely don't want to like open up old wounds, but it's like it was just a bad situation that we're just trying to help. I got into it, people that might be facing the same people that might be facing the same situation. Yeah, no, uh I mean any advice for people like that is just you know, definitely uh first off, make sure you have a lawyer that is separate from everybody involved in the situation. Right, these label appointed lawyers is crazy, like that they're giving you a chance to do it. Just everybody in general, like anyone involved in the situation, you should literally have your own lawyer that has nothing to do with nobody else but you that doesn't even know the other side of the deal. Yeah, yeah. Um, and then you know, outside of that, uh, yeah, man, just be mindful, man. And and just know uh that you know life is short, but it's not a it's not that short. You know, it's like there's gonna be time. You know, in my younger times, I was just always just so desperate, and I just always felt like, oh, this is I have to do this now, or you know, and you know, I don't know. I guess if I could talk to myself, I would let myself know, like, hey, you know, you could be a little more patient, you could be a little more mindful, you don't gotta rush everything, you know.

Don't rush everything. Yeah. I I think we talk about this a lot, is that like so many people out there think whether they're a producer, they think like, yo, if I just got this pub deal, if I just got this one placement, I'd be out of here. Artists think, like, yo, if I just got a record label that signed me, like I'd be out of here. Like, it's not the reality. It's not really to your point, like that's that's like you looking to get some fast track or like fast pass that doesn't really exist. in a good way. That's a big factor of it too. Because my generation, when I was young, I was a part of that last window. My fault. You're good. That last window of uh of artists that were just getting signed off talent. That's dead now. That's over with. Because you didn't have a way to organically really build a fan base that easily. Yeah, so I was like, I was in that last little window of just artists just going to see the heads of the label and performing in front of them, and you you walk away with a deal or you don't. I think we posted a clip yesterday. It was yesterday. It said

labels aren't signing talent anymore. They're signing fan bases. They want to see that you have can build community on your own. Yeah, that you have something built in. you were still going up like Jackson 5 style. Yeah. They tell you, before I used to hate that shit. I I went to a couple label meetings. I seen LA Reid a couple times. And he'd be like, perform. Yeah. We're gonna we're gonna move all the furniture out the way, and you just perform right now. You like stand up on the table. The most like dance monkey feeling in the world. I hated it. I hated it with a passion. God. But um, you know. Yo, seriously. But you know, uh that's so old school. feeling. Things change, man. It's like uh, I don't know. It's like that uh that high school draft generation. Yeah, like even though that's back now, right? Is it what is it? People getting signed out of high school or drafted out of high school. Is that back? I think that's happening, right? Like in basketball.

This is when we need a uh in studio producer, yeah. Yeah, to like be Googling shit. I could be wrong. Satrice. Okay, see, this is why we have. minimum one year of college. All right, Satrice, you're hired. Yeah, we we have no money to pay you, but we can give you your Bamate's, but we got this lawyer that we can all do a deal with, right? Oh man, yeah, right. That's that's funny. Um, so how you know, how can songwriters get paid today, though, right? So, like in the modern music industry, like if I'm an aspiring songwriter, I want to write for people, like what are some of the the ways that that's like possible? You know, how should I go about that? Man, people ask me questions like this all the time, and like I I hate that they ask me these questions Oh, fuck. Because my road, if you don't know, is so untraditional. Yeah, my path is so completely unique from any writer, anybody. I don't know how I just always was able to stumble to the back door of things, but I never had to stand in line of like the normal line that like writers and people like that had to stand in.

You must have been like at least putting yourself out there, keeping an open mind in situations, something like that, right? Man, I I can't lie, man. Sometimes I'll be feeling like that's just really was just the law of attraction. I was a homeschool kid, man. I was a homeschool kid. I used to, I used to look at rap videos on BET and shit. And I used to say, man, my life is boring right now, but I'm a my life when I grow up, I'm gonna be lit. I'm gonna be with all the fly, you know what I'm saying? I used to say all that shit, you know what I'm saying? And I don't know, somehow I just attracted that. Shit. You know what I'm saying? It's like I said, I start off working at Usher's house. Shout out to Usher. What were you doing at Usher's house? Um, so the guy, so like one of the guys that discovered me, his name is Sounds, he went to my church. I was best friends with his little brother. Shout out to Trax. And um, but he was signed to Usher. Okay.

So he used to rock with me. He used to pull me to the studio, and he was working at Usher's house. So I started off like the beginning of my path, meeting somebody in church, working at Usher's house. Yeah. Then he gets signed to Tricky Stewart, brings me over there. Now I'm with Tricky in the dream. In the dreams, hot I'm talking peak. He could not miss. You can't imagine Pete dream. how inspiring that is to be in that and to see just that vortex. Sometimes dream would just be like, come outside, man. Come check out this Ferrari I got. I just want you to feel what this is like. Like he he would just do shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I I would just see it and just like, I don't know. It's like I've always been around it. And it's just so I I can't I can't tell somebody how to go about it because I I never went a traditional way. I never was like going to writers' camps and you know, the stuff that you know normal people have to do.

I don't know. I just always just kind of you don't want to be like just go to church and it'll happen. Yeah, I mean, you know, it could work. I was doing free ad for church. Actually, Is this a way to get people back in the Lord's house. Because I was thinking about it, I was like, dude, maybe I should go to church. Dude, we've had a lot of guests though that have started in church, like yeah, singing or like music. Because, like, yeah, there's a lot of music in church. Bro, I was homeschooled, so so church was like you were just going to like meet people, bro. Yeah. Yeah, like I used to do my freestyle ciphers at church, so we would go to the back of the church. Your church is lit. Bro. No, my My He was rapping about. He was rapping about Corinthians. I was like, shh, my pastor did not know. But the young ones, we was going to the back. Okay, we was freestyling, we be cussing and all that shit, you know what I'm saying? But I guess you know, that's kind of how people kind of caught wind. So you're a sinner. We all are, aren't we? We all fall short. We're born with sin, Lord. Jesus.

Absolutely. Damn, I mean, no, so what I think is interesting is people don't always like to admit, or I actually I think the most successful people do admit this. So I'm glad that you did. Is like there was some luck, bro. Yeah, like there was there was some luck to at least like at least in everyone's journey that's risen to any level of success. I feel like they're pretty open about like, hey, I kept my eyes open for like the doors that opened, like luckily, or whatever, but there's at least some you know chance of like I met this person that then like just like but I don't know how I don't know where the line stops with luck and attraction. Yeah because you can you can No. It's true. you can open yourself to be lucky more often you that's the difference like yeah it is luck but you can put yourself in a position to get lucky more than others and that's the where you have some control. Yeah so so when you got into like these rooms at the very beginning right where you know your friend from church got you into Usher's house whatever and then the dream situation or whatever what do you think you can point to that like kept you being relevant and top of mind for people and them wanting to put you in more situations and you know what I mean because like the talent yeah I guess it was talent but is there any other thing that's like because you know talent is still like subjective to some people right I mean I think it was just talent. Wow straight up I think it was just pure talent because I was kind of quirky and and corny you know as a young person I mean even I'm still a little quirky in certain you seem very normal for being a homeschooler actually you know so I I feel like it was just talent because even when I was signed and you know I had that opportunity they didn't know what to do with me and even the reason I had got dropped was you know me getting into it with an AR and him telling me he just he could not see me as a star he was like you just you're not a star to me.

He was like telling me I'm not a star, which I feel like it's the worst thing to tell an artist that you just signed. You know what I'm saying? They don't teach that in AR school. Yeah, I felt like that was it's probably bad practice. You know? Yeah. But um, but yeah, so you know, I I mean I get it. I I didn't really have much of a story. I was I hate all my old raps because I didn't have nothing to talk about. So I was just like saying stuff, but I had the ability because I studied rap so much, so I knew how to do pockets and and you know metaphors, and but I just didn't have you know a story, you know. So it took me getting dropped and all that other stuff, you know, for me to start really developing a story and you know developing the sound, I guess. Yeah, so so when you're writing for people, like how well do you need to know the person that you're writing for? I mean, the more I know them, the better, right? The more I know like where where your head is, you know what I'm saying? Like what you kind of trying to convey and just seeing where I can get into it, the better, you know.

How do you get to know that? Is that just through genuine being around them, talking to them, or is there some sort of like Process. Being around is preferred, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you just can't beat being around and and being on the same vibe and catching the vibe, so it's like it's preferred, you know. But you know, a lot of times it's not like that. Sometimes you just gotta send stuff in or whatever. Um yeah, because Jace, who's you know, from 2-9 that we were talking about earlier, he was on the podcast and talking about how like he's gotten invited to these writers' camps, right? Because he also, you know, does some songwriting. Yeah, I was gonna ask your opinion about writers' camps. Don't do them. Why? What's your what's your reasoning for not being a fan. There's too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah. I can't stand that shit. And then I feel, I don't know. I hate fighting over publishing. Is it happening live? I wrote this, I wrote this, so I should get to I wrote that I I hate I hate that. I just hate it. I hate it with a passion. And then, and then plus, I don't like the writers' camps because I just from my experience, it's just not too often that the artist is like, hey, yo, can you give me that folder that the AR from the label got so I can listen to those ideas?

And generally it don't work like that. Generally, it's more like a organic, like, you know, it just happens or you know, it comes up or you play it for them in front of them or whatever. But so the success rate is like not that high. Yeah, or at least from your personal experience. And then, you know, maybe I'm I'm spoiled from my experiences, but I just rather play something for you directly and see what you, you know, fuck if you fuck with it or not, you know what I'm saying? Rather than like give it to one person who's gonna send it to another person who's gonna send it to you, who's gonna send it to you, and then even by the time, even if you do hear it and you fuck with it. Now I gotta deal with the politics of these middlemen involving they self in some shit that didn't have nothing to do with nothing, and then on top of that, I gotta do the splits with everybody else. Yeah, but again, I have a different path. There's a lot of people who came up during that path, or doing that path, you know, who you know that's a good look for them. So I don't want to downplay it for you know, because everybody's path is different.

I just was blessed enough to where I can like not have to attend. No, but I think I think it's good for people to know what they're getting into, right? Because you are getting into a very like vulturous environment where everyone's like everyone wants to try to get away. Yeah, trying to hop on the fucking you know, laptop or like everybody's trying to make the hottest shit. Yeah. Turn the beat on everybody. As soon as you try an idea that somebody's like, oh yeah, I got something. Let me try something. Right. And it's just like, damn, I just made this idea now. You just jumping on my idea now. But also you can fuck up my idea. I could I could make something and it's fire. Then you come on to put some shit on and I don't like it, and nobody else like it, but we gotta we gotta accept it because it's a group thing. So then we play it for the person, and they might have been fucking with it for the beginning, then your part come on, fuck up the whole presentation and everything. See, but but also you if you sit back and do nothing, then you're not gonna do you're not gonna do shit, you know. You kind of you're kind of forced in those environments to get in there and give your ideas.

I mean, of course, if that's like if that's the only thing you got, then of course, you know what I'm saying? Like I said that's gotta be the worst. Like putting some drums on there, like adding something. How much do I insert myself into? But then the whole vibe like gets killed. When your shit comes on. Man, come on, man. That's gotta be the worst. But no one's gonna say it. No, right, because everybody's gonna be nice. But they should say it. They should. I think you have to be okay with that. Then it turns into fighting, bad or awkward and bad, yeah, and bad vibes and bad vibes. I'm curious how often you write for a specific artist versus just writing something and then maybe trying to find the artist that fits that. Um I mean, I don't know, it just depends. It just depends. Is it pretty split? Pretty Yeah, it's it's pretty. My biggest question is, and you know, I definitely don't want to dis discount the fact that you're obviously an artist as well. My biggest question always when I'm talking to songwriters is like, how do you relinquish some of your shit to other people when you yourself are an artist? Like it's it's easier for some of these people in other genres where like they don't want to be the forward-facing artist.

But for you, who also has aspirations, obviously, and has been an artist that's forward-facing. How do you like let your shit go to other people? Man, it's it's kind of tough because it's like it's like you put your energy into a song and you fuck with it. Fuck with it enough to send it. And then even if that artist don't fuck with it. But now it's like, damn. Well, I I fuck with it. I would use it. But then half the time when you're writing for somebody, you're writing for somebody on a beat that's from another producer or something. Oh. You can't use it. So it gets no other option. A little more complicated than we think about. Like, I have way more I got so many ideas that I wrote for other people that I wish I could use, but I gotta like reproduce the whole beat and like all kinds of shit. And it's just like, damn, I've I was putting that energy into my own shit, you know. You could send me those ideas. I will find some beats, I'll make some tracks. This is tedious, you know?

Yeah, dude. I'll take that on. Let's go. Do you find yourself second guessing whether the idea was as good as you thought when you sent it, if they don't fuck with it? Or do you, or do you stand behind it like the same as you did? Sometimes, but I don't know. Cause I'd be like, uh, Drake didn't fuck with it. Maybe I don't fuck with it. I don't know, man. I'm I'm always bringing it back to sports, man. Like, it's just you just gotta you just gotta swing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm just swinging. I'm just gonna keep swinging and whatever lands, lands. That's what producers do. People always send you a bunch of beats. And whichever ones land, they land. Most of them don't. You know, most of them don't. Most of them don't go. And then or the ones that you think are, yeah, don't Can't beat that one. Yes. That you made that 15 minutes five years ago in the kitchen with your underwear on, cooked it up on the laptop, speakers. Bro, it's just it's just a matter, it's a it's a batting average business. Yeah, we um we talk about this a lot as far as like not overthinking this shit, too, sometimes, bro.

Yeah. People just artists, producers, writers, podcasters, like, dude, am I not the worst? Yeah, you're the worst overthinking. Oh my god, bro. God tells men to settle down. I literally am like, what should our strategy be? Like, who's our target audience? Like, blah blah blah blah blah. Like, what kind of questions should we ask? What kind of content should we make? Blah blah blah. And then we end up changing nothing. And we do one thing that like I kind of liked, but I didn't think that it was like the right thing to do. And it ends up fucking going and doing crazy numbers online or something, you know? So it's just it just be the ones that it's like just fucking try different things. And to your point, like the at bats, bro. Because it is an average, everything in you don't you don't get one fucking chance to make the perfect song or do the perfect inner, like you know, like it's ridiculous. Every song ain't gonna be, you know. Yeah, every song ain't the your favorite song, you know. There's I mean, even Drake, like, every song ain't your favorite song, you know. No, but but it's also not the last one you get to make.

Yeah, you get to make another one. He has another one. He hasn't even made a favorite song. It's crazy. You know what I'm saying? He has a high average, he's like Otani out here, exactly, exactly. Exactly. So, so when it comes to the whole, you know, Drake, Meek, drama, like all that whole situation. Do you feel because you've talked about this a good amount, obviously, back when it happened, you were, you know, I'm sure getting asked about it all the time. You've obviously done, you know, Vlad and and you know, Rory Amal recently, and now you're here with us. Is there any side to this story that you feel like any any perspective from anyone, whether it's yours or another party involved that hasn't been told? Nah, shout out to Generation Now. Shout out to DJ Drama. Shout out to Cannon. I just want to just dead all that. Yeah. That shit over with, man. Yeah. Like you said it all. And and everyone else, you feel like that, like everyone knows where everyone's perspective has been. Like, is there any side of this that like people aren't aware of? Or you feel like it's been shout out to Boy Wanda.

Yes. Shout out to Boy Wanda. I feel like he's obviously played a big role in your story. No, he saved my life a couple times. Yeah. Wow. Man. Big shout out. So dope producer and a superhero, apparently. Boy Wonder. Boy Wonder. he's a good guy? Everyone that talks about Wanda says this. So I feel like, yeah, man. I feel blessed to, you know, to have uh Boy Wanda and Hit Boy. Like, I don't know why I'm connected with those two guys, but you know, just having those two guys has been uh the boys, a real blessing. It's gotta have been crazy to witness their trajectories though, too, right? Yeah, because I mean you've kind of been there since they were coming up, I feel like as well. For sure, for sure. Yeah, I mean, I saw when people were asleep on Hit-Boy, and you know, I saw when he started to get his flowers. So they were really making hits already, but they weren't getting the flowers, they just didn't know.

People just didn't know that it was hit. Producers, I think, are cooler now, too. It's cooler to know who the producer is. That wasn't a big thing before. You know, when did tags like start? Yeah, right. Right? Who was like the first one to use a producer? Man, I think Metro Boomin made it a made tags a thing. I remember really Zay toven was one of my first. I remember it like listening to Gucci. What's his again? He's got I think he's got a couple. But Zaytoven was a kid. Yeah, okay. Okay. But there's another one too, though. Um he's got like two or three, I don't want to say, but no, I was just trying to think of like when that even started. Because that clearly, because dude, before, you know, before people, like, unless you were a huge music head reading like album credits like on the liners and stuff, most people to your point didn't know who the fuck. Who they were. Pharrell had the four count. Sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Which wasn't a tag. I don't know. Is that we've debated if that's a tag or not. Yeah. It's like a subtle tag. It is. It's cool. So did the general public or like rap fans come after you during that whole situation? Or was it just like industry people that it was like weird with or the whole thing?

Rap fans were more mad at me with the Nas situation. And I want to I want to use this opportunity to say again that uh man, I really had no intentions of bringing any negative light to Nas Man. I got so much respect and honor for Nas, man. And you know, it's that whole thing was unfortunate. I felt the need to first off, DJ Vlad. Shout out to Vlad. He he put some some really interesting titles on each video. Those Well. He's the king. Those titles were crazy. We're gonna do our best to not gladify our titles, but you kind of have to do a little bit of the clickbaity shit, but he went nuts. What was the what was the one that was the craziest for you? Uh I can't remember Off the top of my head, but each one was pretty crazy. They were all like, okay. All right. I mean, I know they Nas steal song from. But like, okay. But um, but yeah, man, with Nas, man, first off, you know, Hit Boy, obviously that's my brother. And, you know, they they've been working so hard, you know, on everything they've been doing, and you know, to bring any kind of uh negative light or you know, diminishing light to anything that they had going on.

That was never my intention, you know. Like when I was on the Royal Mall interview, you know, they asked me if I was still working, I was just naming artists I was still working with. I had no intention of like, you know, trying to bring the hip hop community, you know, make that a whole discussion or anything, you know. If anything, I'm thinking it would just make people look at me like, damn Quentin know what you're doing, you know what I'm saying? But does no one give a fuck about your career? I don't know. It just feels like you get shit on a lot. It's weird. Like it just feels like for no reason. the like way some of these things have played out. It's like no one is really considering like, bro, you have a career that you have to look out for as well. Yeah, so like you saying these things clearly and I, you know, I I you know I would hope that after, you know, my little viral moment, hopefully people, you know, understand, you know, that perspective too, you know. I haven't, you know, spoke to bro. Uh me and Hit. We're still cool, you know, and uh luckily that hasn't affected anything, but you know, shout out to Nas, man. And you know, it's like do people do people think that Nas is not allowed to have anyone in the room when he it just gotta be him and the engineer?

Like nobody can be there. Apparently, I was like you're in the room, and it was like, man, the more I try to talk about it, the more I because even if you hear what I was saying, I'm like, I didn't say I wrote all everything, all this other, but it's just like it didn't matter. It's like the more I try to clean it up, the more of a mess I was making. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I just felt like, man, I just need to just fall all the way back. Like, you know, I don't even want I ain't want to put nothing out or nothing made people think I'm trying to capitalize off of it because I'm not I ain't that type of person man like I'm I I'm really not like that man and you know I yeah that was that was just that was unfortunate. it's so weird for me though because it's like in my mind like even if we take the worst the worst quote unquote case scenario of if you were trying to like why does everyone allow like other people to do self selfish things that are like would advance. I don't know it just seems like why can you not just be like yeah I was working with these people or like whatever further my career along it seems very odd to me man I don't know I just want to like you know empathize with it's weird your situation and that's the weird part about like you know this profession when it comes to rap because with rap it's really taboo you know to be a collaborator with a rapper yeah you know because you know I guess it's it it just causes such a conversation about you know what you did and whatever you know what I'm saying and it's it's tough man it makes it tough to be like you know proud of your work and tell people about your work when it's like it causes this bullshit you know so you should be able to talk about what you've done without having and let me clarify also for some people like not that it has necessarily anything to do with your situation if you tell a rapper to say dog instead of cat if you say turn the hi hat up two decibels if you say, you know, add a snare right here. You're a writer.

You're a writer on the song. Like that qualifies you, whether you get the credit or not. There's no limit to, you know, what if you're in the room and you make a suggestion, you helped make the song sound like what it is, and you're a writer. You know, what whatever your publishing situation is, that's a whole other story. But it's not, you're not taking you know anything away from any great writer. Bro, because you were there. You know what I'm thinking this whole time? Have you ever considered like writing for country artists or something? Like, have you considered just like I love country music. leaving rap, bro? Like, these rappers are too fucking, I don't know, bruh. You ever consider. You ever consider that. it's really only rap. Every other genre It really. It really is only rap. It's just rap. And like you're clearly good with words, so like have you ever I'm like actually being serious? Have you ever considered writing for I would I would definitely be down? I mean it doesn't have to be country, but like. Pop or something. Because they like they get to talk about stuff that we can't talk about in like hip hop and RB. Like there's so much bravado and hip hop and RB, but freaking like country music, they'll be like Being vulnerable.

Talk to my mom today. Yeah, crying. Talk about crying and stuff. Talk about like regular random shit, like yeah, like I did that shit today too. Like, what the fuck? Bro, we might need you to like start writing for other genres so you can get the fucking respect that you deserve, bro. That's a hint for the rampage, by the way. You guys alluded to something. That's amazing. Um, okay, so do you think songwriting is uh nature or nurture? Meaning, like, is it a you know born talent or can you develop it? Like, could I become a songwriter if I really not you god Henry? I mean, uh, I feel like uh yeah, you could you could definitely develop the skill. How much of it though, do you think is like God given born talent? Would you say? Um, I mean, uh, yeah, that's definitely an aspect to it too. You know, there's some people that it comes easier for. Some people can just like freestyle.

Are you one of those? Right. Nah. Can't freestyle. I I can, I gotta really be in the zone to just freestyle. Yeah. But like that was me in high school, like smoking weed. For the most part freestyling. I gotta like think about it, you know. Yeah, you had that green courage. Man, so um, I do want to, you know, talk about like when you got in the car accident, right? Like, how I just feel like you've been kicked, you know, down so many times, bro. And it's like, where do you find the strength, like mentally to get through all of this shit? Like, are you a spiritual guy? It's just like not thinking about it. Like, I when I was like uh in the bed, like I was uh like when I was in the bed healing, I was buying shoes. Oh wow. Like, I don't know. I just feel like a lot of it, a lot of life is mental.

And that that's not to sound like I'm a super guru, because there's a lot of areas mentally where I I'm weak at, you know what I'm saying? Like where I I think negatively and I wish I thought more positively. Because I know just how powerful, you know, thinking is, you know. But you know, especially when it comes to healing, that was just something I just kind of knew, like I gotta tell myself. Like I just was I was always thinking about moving forward. Like I just never sat around and thought about what was me. I don't know. Damn, so you so you never even had a little bit of that. I mean, I of course. Absolutely. Yeah. Especially. I was like, Jesus, bro. Especially while I was healing, but you know, it's just the thought of moving forward. Like, I don't know, it's just like just keeping a plan in your head, just telling yourself it's not over, like, and knowing that it's not over, you know? Yeah. Like sounds like you just had like a good mental fortitude, really, you know. Yeah, not to sound not to sound like it was perfect, because definitely it was some some tough days, you know.

Yeah. Sure. But. I mean, I still have tough days, you know. Like, I I'm definitely at that age in my life where like I I be one of those guys that uh LA Fitness playing ball and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, Hell yeah. I wish I could like play ball and shit. I wish I could like, you know, do a lot of regular shit. Yeah. You tried golf. Uh yeah, I play uh well, I don't play, but like, you know, I'll hit the driving range every now and then. Okay. He's like obsessed with golf. Mac. Mac is the golfer. He golfs. I know. That's why I asked. I see him out there. For sure. Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure, man. So what kind of songs do you like to write the most, would you say? Like turned up, you know, party vibes. Do you like to do more like introspective? Man, it just depends, man. I can I have zero control over my creative process. I have no control. I I cannot go in the studio and be like, I'm going to make a club record. I'm going to make a serious record.

I just can't do it. And every time I tell myself I'm going to do it, I always make the exact opposite record of what I said I was gonna make. I just can't do it. So I think that's a strength. I'm telling you, like, it's a strength, but it's also it's also tough. Maybe there's a situation where it would be super beneficial for you to write a a certain kind of record, but the best art is always when it's just free flowing. You're not trying to force anything. Yeah. If it if it if it takes me too long, I I don't even sit sit with a beat for too long. If I'm like working on a beat and it starts to get a little too long, I just move on. Like how long? This is a fun question. How like when you're hearing new beats, how long will you let it play until you decide if you want to write to it or not? First thing right at the drop? That depends because I can tell from the intro, I can tell from the drop. So it it's it's random. Yeah, like random. You know pretty quick though. Yeah, it's so stressful as a producer, bro. Like I'm gonna do that. You know, it's stressful telling a producer when they're like, what kind of beats you looking for?

Yeah. Like, I don't I don't know how to describe it. Fuck. Yeah. Give me uh an afro beat trap. Yeah. Hip hop, boom bap. That's Right. So we've talked about this before with you know some producers, kind of like the exercise of playing beats for an artist like in the studio, and kind of the anxiety that might come with that, right? Of like when the artist says, like, yo, pull up some beats, and they're like, Oh fuck, like here we go. And like your favorite beat pulls up, and then they're just like next, like three seconds in, right? How's your experience when you are like playing references for artists? You get next. Do you get next? Like, chill, bro. I mean we all. That's a good question. Yeah. I mean, A, do you? But obviously. I can't lie. I mean, I haven't really gotten nexted. Really? They at least give it a a little bit of a listen. But I mean, I've you know, had them like not take the record, obviously. Sure. but they get all the way through, for the most part. but they get through it though.

That's impressive. But I don't okay, I don't make whole song ideas. Right. You do like verse hook. I learned that from the dream. Verse hook or just hook. Well yeah, well, yeah, unpack that. Verse hook. Yeah. Verse hook. One verse, one hook. That's all you need for like to see if someone. If you actually want me to finish it, I'll finish it. But I'm not, I'm not doing more than that. That's what I think is huge, though. No, because that's when I work with artists, that's what I'll I'll tell them to do that, even if they're working on their own music. I'll say, you know, let's do a hook and a verse on this, let's sit on it, let's see how we feel in an hour, let's see how we feel tomorrow. See if you still like it, and then we'll finish it if it still hits. Because you might spend all the whole session working on one song, three verses and two bridges, and then the next day you're like, I don't even like this. anymore. If I'm working like that, I walk out the studio with at least three ideas. Exactly. I'd much rather have three unfinished songs than one that I pray to God it still sounds good tomorrow. And once again, y'all have been in countless, countless more sessions than I have, but even like the limited amount that I've been in, I feel like when you start working on that second and or you know, bridge or third verse, even, you know, God forbid, right? Third verses.

Uh remember the third verses? Yeah, I just used to be a thing. It barely happens these days. But but no, so like I feel like artists start to get frustrated, maybe, right? Cause if it's not hitting like that far into the process, then you almost start to like I've seen it happen when they start to like resent the song because to your point, if they would have just stopped after the first, you know, verse and hook or whatever, and maybe walked away, worked on something else, whatever. I feel like they might have come back like equally as excited about it. But like almost Some people can do that, man. I I I can't just listen to the same beat for three hours. Yes. And work, yes. It will make I'll start hearing every little sound in the beat. Yeah. And stuff will start annoying me. Yes. Dude. Like that fucking cowbell. Oh, man. Comes in and uh imagine being the producer engineer sitting right in front of the fucking speakers the whole time. And they're like, Turn it up, I want to hear it louder. I'm Like, all you hear is like no one's paying attention to that shit, but I've been listening to the beat for so long. That cowbell. That's all I hear.

I thought it was always more cowbell. It is. That's a bad example, Yeah. church bells. Shout out to Yeet. Yeah, for real. Church bells. So, you know, something we were even talking about. Like, do you feel like you're too genuine for the music business sometimes? Like, do you feel like you fit in? Absolutely. Yeah, right? Absolutely. Yeah. I'm a nice guy, man. Yeah, yeah. It would be so much better if I wasn't. If you were an asshole, you'd be. If I was an asshole Oh my god. I'd be lit. You'd be so lit. I'd be so lit. So yo, how can we turn this guy? I don't know. Do we got any like you know, asshole friends? Illuminati ties. Can we introduce them to some assholes that we know? The naughty ties. Yeah, I mean Dude. it's just to the naughty. No, I just hey they're gonna chop this up, and then they're gonna be like Quinn Miller ass. Yeah, we finish. I'm not, I'm not. I'm just gonna finish that so we can chop it up. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. No, we already had an Illuminati clip uh from another guest.

We did Recently. somehow it's made our way made its way onto the podcast twice now. They might be listening. Um no, but you know, you describe the music industry as like Game of Thrones esque. I feel like in another interview. Um, which like character do you feel like you're playing in this whole in this whole TV show that we got going on here? Oh man. Did you watch Game of Thrones by the way? I loved it. okay. I caught Game of Thrones before everybody else. I was on that. Before everyone got hip to it. I accidentally caught the premiere the night it happened. Oh, wow. Oh shit. first episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy was locked in. But uh which character are you, bro? Bryn, or what's the boy? Oh, the uh, yeah. Right? The one that sees the future. Fuck uh. You would say that, huh? I just I just thought about that. Oh, what did I mean by that? As in. Because he can't walk? Oh my god. Dude. That was amazing, bro. Oh my god.

Oh my god. I could actually introduce you to this asshole friend I've got. Oh my god. That's crazy. Fuck man, that's a good question. I would have to. Good one, bro. No, don't chat me up, bro. Come on, bro. Accident, bro. Good one. Which one are you? Which one are you, bro? I'd have to. I'd have to think on that, man. Cersei. Oh shit. That's that's I'm like the uh who's the nice guy that gets shit. Who's getting like shit on shit on like way too often than they should be? Like who didn't deserve. I don't want to be anybody who was. Jon Snow. No, I'm saying who doesn't deserve like the who get who deserves more respect in Game of Thrones than they get? Yeah. Sansa's knight in shining armor. Sansa. Yeah. Sansa. Sansa. Oh yeah. Yes. Yes. You're definitely a knight. Yeah. Who's the knight that was with uh the tall lady? Yes. No, I don't know the name, but I that sounds like you. The Lannister brother. Yes.

Yeah. It might be you. Okay. Got his arm cut off. Yeah. Close enough. Something like that. God, if we can't, if we can't, you know, you know, shrug it off at this point. Jeez, I don't know. But um, no, man, that's that's great. Well, Quentin, like, we want you to win more than anything, bro. Like, for real, I need the new wedding crashers project. Yes. Can you give us any hints about that? That is uh my my primary focus for the year to to make sure that that is finished and put out. This year? Yeah, yeah. I just Cool. I just got to get to Austin, Texas, and tap in, you know, Or tell Mac to come out here too, man. I'm trying to link up with Mac again. Wedding Crashers, man, that's one of my like one of the closest projects to my heart, man. Uh honestly, the Drake Meek Mills situation uh really stunted the growth of Wedding Crashers because we had a natural thing going on in Atlanta. Yes. It was way more lit than Quentin Miller. I Quentin Miller, nobody even knew who I was, you know, prior to that shit.

Like Wedding Crashers was just his own thing going on. And you know, uh I uh till my last breath, I'll do everything I can to uh to keep pushing that flag, man, because it's needed, man. It's so dope. Yo, it's still kind of like crushing on streaming. Man, it's crazy. Like streaming fans. Like, yeah, shout out to the Wedding Crasher fans, man. Oh, you've got a new fan in me, man. When I started to listen to it, I was like, Thank you. Yo, how did I miss all of this Yeah. Being from Atlanta? I was like, this is amazing. Thank you. Yeah, for sure. You got an old fan in me. Yeah, I know. Yeah man. Going back, baby. Yeah. Wedding Crashers, man. We uh, you know, made that whole sound 1317 in Shatrice's apartment, man. And uh Wow Shout out Shatrice in the building. Yeah, yeah. So we got an OG. Yeah, man. Wow. It's very near and dear to us. So yeah, WDNG is coming, coming this year. It's coming every year. Uh it will never stop until we're like old and in retirement homes. And even still been.

You might be. It'll probably be pretty funny if we made some shit at that edge, too. So dude, There totally is gonna be like pro tools in the nursing homes. Like, you know when I think about that. You know, I mean, by the time you're, you know, there. When I think about the the actual wedding crashers movie, I mean, they were like what mid 30s. Yeah, it's perfect. I feel like it's my favorite movie. By the way. It's So good. Yeah. Prime stage. Who's Vince and who's Owen? He's definitely Vince. The coolest Mac is Vince. Yeah. He's like way more out there. Yeah. Like he's the super extrovert. Yeah. We're both Libras. I guess he's just the opposite side of the scale. Yeah. Different moon or whatever. Like he's he's a rising Libra. I'm the guy when we pull up and I was like, man, I don't know. Maybe we should. And before I even finish the sentence, he's already in the mix. Yeah. Hey, what up? I love Mac, man. He's like Atlanta Snoop Dogg, man. Like, he's just got that energy that just everybody just fucks with, man. That's amazing, bro. Yeah.

I definitely want to do whatever I can to push that light forward. For sure. Yo, we are here for it. Henry, we've entered a final segment of the podcast. Oh shit. With Mr. Quentin Miller. Are we doing this? No, let's go. Not the Stanley Cup finalists. Not the Stanley Cup. No. This is the rapid fire rampage. We're gonna break it down into three parts. Start off real easy with some short answer questions. Here we go. Okay. That's my that's my sound effect. I wish Shatrice could hear it. It's okay. Starting off real easy, nice and just toss you a lob here in the beginning. Why did the rapper cross the road? To get the chain. To get to the one more time podcast. Okay, moving on. To get a chain and then do the one more time podcast. Yeah, yeah. Just to combine them. Chains are really important to rappers. Indeed. It's a status symbol. Yeah. Okay, getting into it for real. If you were to sign a writer's deal right now, what are some terms that you would have to absolutely have in place? A million dollars.

A billion trillion dollars. If you got the mill up front, would you be good with no back end? Yeah. Just give me the mill. Yeah. And I'll write my ass off. Yeah. Because the writing business is so much free work. It's so much like sessions that you do that you never get any money for. You just spend six, seven hours in the studio hoping that they take the song and they never take the song. Fuck that. Give me the money up front. Take that up front. I'll do them sessions all day. I'll be in that motherfucker just making ideas. Y'all don't even got to use them. Dude, that's the same way with writers that write like scripts and shit. I was just thinking about this because I was listening to stuff about like the writer's strike that's going on. And it's the same way. They're doing like you know, they call it spec work where it's speculative of like you gotta do the work and just hope that someone you just hope. Takes this script, you just put your heart and fucking soul into, and in your case, bro, put your song in the right. What do you think producing music is, bro? No, I mean same idea, Same idea. Please make a song. I've done sessions with artists, bro.

I don't even want to say the artist's name. I did this one session with this one artist. Kendrick Drizzy. they had a co-writer there, and I I'm I'm so seasoned at this point. I was like, I'm not wasting my energy. I watched this artist spend four and a half hours writing the song for this artist. I mean, watch this writer spend four and a half hours writing a song for this artist. The artist comes in, listens to it for two seconds and goes, it's cool, but it's not. Oh no. Man. Meanwhile, I was chilling. I was in that motherfucker, too. So that hurt me. Yeah, man. Million dollars off top. For sure. Yo. I would do that. Would do that all day. Yeah, who do you think he was impersonating there? Could you tell based on like the impersonation? We'll watch the footage later. Okay, yeah, we got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Analyze it. Quentin Miller puts Kendrick Lamar on blast. That sounded kind of like Kung Fu Kenny. I'm just saying. That's what I thought.

Okay, moving on. Um, Quentin, how many unreleased songs do you would you say ballpark do you have written right now? And how much to buy all of them outright? To buy them all out, right? All of them. And how many unreleased songs that I have right now? I mean, it would be in the multiple hundreds. Four to four hundred or something like that. Uh to buy them all out. 1.5. 1.5. Okay, he upped the ante. I like it. I like it. Yep. Knows his worth. Because I gotta, I you know, I gotta account for the money it'll accumulate. Yeah, yeah. Right. Oh, for sure. All right. Quentin, what do the pictures in your Instagram Explorer look like right now? Just bad bitches. Cooking. Okay. Cooking stuff. Cool. Books. Okay, what else? Uh historical facts.

Uh huh. Damn, you are seasoned, bro. He's a is also a liar. Oh, shit. Here I am, seasoned as fuck. I'm Like, bro, mine looks like that too, bro. All right. Holy shit. God, big booties. All right. We'll move on from that one. Anyway. Quentin, since tomatoes are considered fruit. Is ketchup a smoothie? God. The world wants to know. They don't want to. So tomato is a fruit. It is a fruit. Confirmed. Yes. Because it has seeds. Yeah. It is. Yeah. I mean, well. Sorry, man. Yeah, ketchup is kind of smoothie material. There you go. I'll give it to him. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. about that. That's a yes. Last one of the short answer. This is the Co-Sign Corner presented by Guayaki Yerba Mate, our good friends over there. Just shout us out, maybe like a few artists that you see right now that you're excited about coming up. Who are you listening to?

My new artist? Yeah. Come uppers. Upcomers. Upcomers. Come uppers. I like Flo Milli. Okay. I like uh I like Baby Drill. Yes. Yeah, we had Coop on here who's producing a bunch of his shit. Yeah. Yeah. I like Pink Panthers a lot. She's fire. She's different. Yeah. Anycia? Yeah. She goes hard. I just texted Smiles, her manager, and I was like, yo, can we get Anycia on the pod? And Caribou Karrahbooo. Caribou. Yeah. She goes hard. Yeah. Yeah. So uh I've been seeing Anycia. Is it Anycia or I hope I said that right. Yeah. I hope I said it right. I'm I'm probably butchering it with you, so it's okay. We'll we're you know, we're gonna both take this one together. But You don't say anything so that you won't get it wrong. Yeah, because I she's like popping right now. I mean, dude, people are paying attention.

How about just the females like in general? The ladies are crushing. Crushing it. Ladies are crushing, bro. I mean, oh my god. Yeah. Anyway, that was part one. Part one, man. Um moving on to part two. They took the shit over. Yes. Part two is the this or that. Quentin, I'm gonna give you two choices. All you gotta do is pick one. Okay. There we go. Starting with physically writing or phone notes. Phone notes. Record in a booth or record in the control room. That's that's diff. That's tough. It depends. Okay, I'll I'll say control room. I knew it. I thought he was a booth guy, bro. But the booth, it's diff. He seems like he wants his piece. It's really 50-50, man. It's tough. Most people are control room people now. He just seemed like you know the booth guy? Yeah, like locked in. If it's people in the in the room, I'm definitely wanting the booth. Yeah. But if it's just like me and Steve. producer engineer, you'll be in the mix. Yeah. Okay, see, I was kind of right. Because you know, when there's people in the room, it kind of affects your for sure. For sure.

One take or punching in. Punch. Drums or melodies. Melodies. Drums or flats. But wait, I like drums on the on the melodies. melodies. But melodies, You, you go. I've been fucking with a lot of melodies with no drums lately. So uh and then with wings. Yeah. Or or however you drums. However, you however you interpret drums or flats. There's no more information here on the phone. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Flats. Drums. Don't put words in his mouth, bro. Jesus, Are you listening? I was hoping he said the right answer. Well, flats are good though. Flats, the tree's gotta be rock, paper, or scissors. You know. I feel like he's thought about this before. He looked so happy to talk about this. You know, because. Let's hear it. Because People. people sleep on scissors. Okay. They do. A lot of times they think you're going rock, so they go paper.

Okay. Yeah, I know that's true. That's true. I feel like I always lead with rock. So you gotta think ahead. You gotta think ahead of the stuff that they're thinking ahead of. I know. And they're trying to think ahead of yourself. I always get papered. But you know what's funny? I rock. You're you're thinking ahead with scissors, so I'm thinking even further ahead. I'm going back to rock. Oh shit. Now that you know that, but if we would have just organically played Facts. you would have caught the scissors. You're right. Moving on. Babies or dogs? Yo, you should have played around first of rock, paper, scissors. But anyways. Ben. This is Quentin's rapid fire rampage. I'll be quiet. Babies or dogs. And what way are we referring to? There's no context. Stop asking for information. There's no information. Because if I'm at the park, Mm-mm. there's a and I want to like pet a baby to a talk to a lady. You could have either. I could have the nah. Well, you want a baby I got a baby mama. Not at the park necessarily.

Not just having a baby mama, but if you have a baby, you have to know a fresh baby mama. Right. I know. So that kind of deters you from talking to her, but if you just got a dog. Damn. I didn't think this through when I had a kid. Fuck. Jesus. So it's like, you know, if I'm at the park with the dog, it's more of an easier conversation. So it just depends on the setting. But there is no setting. You just have to pick one. I mean. if I gotta choose a life, I guess I would save the baby's life. I didn't say that either. Now we're killing the dog. We just killed the hypothetical dog. Oh god. Because you gotta like you gotta put context to this. You can't just leave it open. You don't tell us what to do on our podcast, Quinn. We don't tell you what lyrics to write. Christ. Let's definitely move on. This is Henry's rampage. God. Wow. He just killed a what kind of dog do we kill? No, What breed? No, no, no, no, no, no. What breed was it? Yeah, what dog? Scott. All right, moving on, moving on, moving on.

In my world is babies and dogs. Just a couple more here for the this or that. Rich or genius. Well, genius. You can get rich off the genius. You go. And finally, become a country ghostwriter full-time or leave the music industry. I mean, I I I take country out. Part two. Okay. I had a feeling. I had that written before you brought up the. Yeah, I don't even look at your questions, obviously. Country, man. The final part of the rampage, this is the word association. Quentin, I'm gonna say one word. You just give me the first word, whatever pops into your head immediately. Try not Try not to kill like any other animals. I'm just saying. I do my best. I do my best. Yeah. It's gonna be hard to do. Jeez. Starting as always, with hip hop. He doesn't understand the rules. What's happening? What's happening? I thought he was about to say that. I was like, bruh, he doesn't understand the rules. What's happening?

Do I just say how I feel about hip hop? Just the first word off the top of your head. First word you think of. Don't give us feelings per se. Yeah, we don't want your whole story. So the first word. First word you think of when I say my word. You say a word. Okay. Yeah. It's like a therapy exercise almost. Yeah. We're trying to get deep into subconscious of Quentin Miller. Minus the feelings. And the dead puppies. Yeah. Okay, All right. all right. I made it a puppy. I'm sorry. No. It's like I thought we had a mature dog. I didn't know. I thought it was like, you know, it was old Yeller. Thought it was like old dog. I thought it was like old Yeller. Yeah, yeah, my bad, my bad. Can we do the word? association? Damn. let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. This took a turn. Hip hop. 50. Buzz. Lightyear. Fire. Nice. Pickleball. Don't watch. Contract. Watch out for those. Bro, why did your eyebrows have to go up? I knew it'd be a good one. Contract. Atlanta.

Don't do that with your eyebrows. Can you stop fucking talking in my rampage? Why are your eyebrows doing that? Don't fucking worry about me. Atlanta, you're messing up the fuck. Atlanta is home. Oh, yes. Kanye West. Genius. Dessert. Desert. Ooh. Dropped an S. Scam. Likely. Damn, bruh. Tiger. You know what I wanted to say just now. I don't I have an idea, but I don't know. Woods. Yes. Okay, Good. I planted the golf thing earlier. Platinum. If you're reading this. It's too late. Moon. I wanna go to moon. That would be so sweet. Damn.

I wish someone would answer all of your uh word association ones with lyrics. That would have been fire. They'd have to be fire. Lil. There's so many. I know. There's a ton. You're not supposed to not think about it, though. That was my answer. Lil, there's so many. Okay. It's so many. OnlyFans. Why? Why? Bitcoin. Why? Wedding. Crashers. Let's go. What a an intense rampage. This is Another episode of the One More Time Podcast. What an interview. We had the honor of sitting here with our friend Quentin Miller. Hopefully, a wedding Crashers album is coming soon. If you need help getting to Austin, Texas to finish it up, you know. Absolutely. We might need to just like Foot the bill for 5%. Yes, sir. For sure. As always, please like, comment, and subscribe if you are listening to this and watching it on YouTube. Yes. Until next week, Henry, what are we doing? We're getting out of here. Getting the fuck out of here. Peace, y'all. Bye-bye, sir.