Reese LAFLARE Interview: Biting vs. Being Influenced + Advice From Drake

There's a difference between influence and there's a difference between just straight up copying and biting somebody. I know when somebody's just straight up copying and biting, and I know when somebody, I'm an influence on somebody. A person that's influenced by you, they're gonna come and show you love. They're gonna, oh man, a person that they know they're biting, those are usually the people that try to shun you or try to act like you ain't this, you ain't shit. I am beyond thrilled to be welcoming in on the one more time podcast. Mr. Purple Rain himself, back from the dead. It's the hologram of Prince right now. Prince! Live. What an honor. In the building. Oh my god. We got the hologram. Yeah. It's our first hologramic. Hologramic? Hologramic? Hologrammic. We're just making up words at this point. We're like 10 seconds in. This is amazing. Yeah, yeah. Nah, I did hear you get a uh you have like a prince influence. So I thought that was actually kind of perfect when some like auto AI generator tells us that you look like Prince, and I was like, Yeah, what's wrong with it?

In all seriousness, we have Mr. Lee Reese LaFlare, aka Lil Skate, the Dean on the One More Time podcast. Yes, sir. One more time. Let's go. What's up? So you recently did a couple pieces of content around this question, and I gotta start with this. Who the fuck is Reese LaFlare? Yes. Man, I'm just a regular guy. That's not true. I know it goes shout out, shout out Key. Yeah, right. I'm just a regular guy. No, um, I'm Reese, uh, from Atlanta. I grew up skateboarding, very submerged in the culture, love music, fashion, just uh all-around cultural person. Like I've experienced a lot at a young age, like from being around some of the craziest sneaker drops, like to skating with all the OG and younger supreme guys and all that stuff to making music, being a part of 2-9, you know, Atlanta history right there. That's right.

By the way, speaking of 2-9, we we're we need to kind of complete the I think we need Curtis, we need Siege. Yeah, we we did we get we even did Fonnie. We were close to doing the whole game. You gotta you gotta see if you can get all of us in one space. Oh god, that would be that would be That'd break the internet. That yeah. That's multiverse. That that's yeah, that's so hard to do, but it'd be cool. Yo, it's so perfect. Do you see how hard he struggled with that question? Which is why he like posted this piece of content probably with all these different people's opinions. Cause it is hard to like sum you up. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Most people can give like a very short answer, and you you you saw him be like, fuck, like here we go. Where do I do where do I go from here? It's like I don't I I'm an artist, yeah. Like I it's like I got known for music, you know what I'm saying? For 2-9, but it's like I being an artist is so much more than just music. Yeah, it's everything around it that embodies you as a person and what makes people draw to you or like you. And I've I've known that since like a young age.

It's like, okay, this is what I like to do, but I also like to do this. I like to do this. So it's like you use one thing to get yourself in a position to bring in to do all the other things that you want to do. That's it, but it's all still a part of one another. Like skateboarding and music, like rap, hip hop is simultaneous. They run it's street culture, it's it's one one with the other. It's all the same fashion, same thing with fashion. It's always been like that. So it's like I like all those things, and I'm good at them, so it's like I do them all. I think you're super lucky to have understood that at a young age. We've had this conversation multiple times lately, encouraging artists. We we've come across some of the most fire artists who just don't have any other side to them really besides the music. And it's like, I know you guys like other things. I know you could be into other things, and nine times out of ten, those are the things that could even bring people into your sphere. And it could become like a side hustle.

We just interviewed Grip with at Shady Records, who has uh he loves beer, he loves IPAs, he's done beer drops. You know, we that's that's that's beast dropping his own beers and he's here promoting his beer by you know having a pint on the podcast. Yeah, so shit like that, man, it's so important. I think you learned that early, and that's super valuable. Nah, it is like as an artist, you're a product, so you're selling something, you want people, your fans to buy into. You want your fans to feel like they're a part of what you have going on, and there's other aspects of life that outside of the music they're relating to that and being fans, they relate to other things that you might be into. Yes, so bro, say that shit louder for the people in the motherfucking back, bro. Say it one more time. Like I think I think that people who are trying to make it in the music business, they feel like they're like a sellout if they say what you just said. No.

Like the fact that you just admitted that artists are products does not mean you need to sacrifice any sort of artistic integrity or creativity. You wanna you wanna make money, you gotta you gotta sell something. You're trying to you're trying to feed your family on Spotify royalties? You're trying to be a professional artist. Like, if you're a hobbyist, then that's cool too. Then you don't have to maybe say what you just said. But for someone like you, who all of the things that you mentioned you're involved in, they are also feeding you. They're also taking care of you know you and your loved ones, whatever the case may be. This is a a career, like this is a business. You know what I mean? People like to, like I said, people like to feel like they're a part of something. And also being an artist, you know, people, at least for a lot of people, and in my shoes, a lot of people like to fucking copy me or try to do shit like me. So guess what? Okay, you want to dress like me? I have diva. I'm gonna have my own brand.

Yeah, you got to wear my shit now. Yeah, you wear my shit. So you you could say whatever you want about me, do whatever. You're wearing you're still wearing my shit. Yeah. So I win. And it's like I I never, I never was like, I I have like a crazy collection of like band tees and all this stuff. I never, those are legendary bands and things like that. I never wanted to like make merch with my face on it or my name because it's weird. I don't know. I don't want people running around wearing my face on the trade. So it's like I'm gonna do something that's bigger than that, something that's gonna could live beyond you. Could Live beyond you. Yeah, like savage Fenty. It's gonna live beyond Rihanna. So I'm on the same. Yes. Same thing. 100%. It's it's it's and maybe you want to sell the business for five billion dollars in 20 years. Exactly, man. And if it's you got your face on it, it's kind of hard to do. Yeah, exactly. It's it's it's all one of the same. Like, you gotta uh I got past the point in life where I was just like, okay, I still have fun doing things, but it was like I'm not doing this just for fun anymore.

Like, nah. When did that change? Um, I'll say after 2-9 broke up, like after we dispersed. When is that officially, would you say? Around like 2000. For me, I feel like around like 2015. Yeah. Is that different for every member that we asked? It's like it's like 2015, right? 2015, 2016. When was the eardrummers? That was I think around that time. Around the same time, right? That's what I thought. That's crazy. I didn't I didn't want to do that situation because it wasn't, it wasn't true to what 2-9 was to me. Yeah. And I'm like uh RP, my boy Virgil. Virgil has this saying of tourist and the purist. I'm a I'm not a fucking tourist, I'm a purist. So it's like I'm very anal about things like that. I'm like, this is not 2-9. Like, this is not what made people like us.

This is not what it was. I understand business, but this ain't it, so I I ain't want to do it. What specifically wasn't it? The deal wasn't for me. It was like a lot of like it was it was a lot of shit going on. You sacrificing some creative control? Yeah, that it's a little bit deeper than that too. It's like a but it was a bunch of shit. Like fuckery going on. I was just like, I'm gonna, I don't want to do that. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like with that many cooks in the kitchen, I almost feel like it's inevitable. I don't think that it had to maybe end exactly the way that it did necessarily, but I just mean like you're ultimately gonna have a lot of you know opinions to me, and I, you know, I would tell them, I would tell them back then and stuff, like around that we came out at the same time, it was us, odd future, and ASAP. Those are the collectives, those are collectives. We're 2-9 was a collective. They tried to make 2-9 a fucking rap group. That's one, and that's not where we were.

Yeah. It's not what 2-9 was. It was like you got your main people. It was like me, Curtis, and Key. They're like, okay, we see these three. We got that. And it was like, you know, the saying, you can't everybody can't come through the door at once. You gotta let some people get on, then you bring the guys. That was my always my vision and plan. It was like, look, me, Curtis, Key, we can we got it right now. Let us do this, and then bring everybody on. Tyler did it perfectly with our future. Yeah. ASAP did it perfectly. I was on the same thing, but you know, shit don't work out like that. Damn, dude, imagine another universe where like shit worked out different. Fuck. I just got I just got so pissed. Me too. Hearing that. Yeah, I love bro, them nubbed rows, bro. Because I love all of you. I love all of it. We made memories, bro. Like we made Atlanta and the new sound that came through Atlanta. We made that shit.

Yes. We made that shit. We made kids dress the way they dress, the way they talk, all the fucking lingo, all the we made all that shit. I feel like y'all inspired the guys that inspired the guys. Yeah. Like, you know. Yeah. You know what I mean by that? Def definitely no, I don't trust me, I know. Yeah, I know you do. We got a bunch of we got a bunch of little kids running around here. How do you yes? How did you, and I guess how do you today handle when because I feel like some people struggle with like being an inspiration for people, and some take it as like they're biting your style, they're copying you, whatever. Like, what's what's been your philosophy on that? Um, you have to differentiate it. There's a difference between influence and there's a difference between just straight up copying and biting somebody. Yeah. I know when somebody's just straight up copying and biting, and I know when somebody I'm an influence on somebody. A person that's you had that you're influenced, they're and influenced by you, they're gonna come and show you love. They're gonna, oh man, the person that they know they're biting, those are usually the people that try to act like they try to shun you or try to act like you ain't this, you ain't shit.

Oh shit. That was what the biters do. That's what the biters do. You just broke it down so that's what the that's great. That's what the biters do. If they come around, yeah, yeah, that you almost know that it's just a genuine hey Reese, you're influencing me. Definitely. If they stay away, it's almost like when a rapper uses another rapper's line. Yeah, you can tell if they're saying it in a way that's like one paying homage versus a way that is maybe just jacking. Yeah, but just like the proximity effect of what he's talking about. Once they get the like, okay, I feel like I got the sauce, I got some buzz or whatever, they'll start acting they'll start the one they start acting funny, you know what's up. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Then you kinda know it was malicious to some degree, or at least in like they knew what they were doing. Yeah, I learned I learned that. And then um, you know, young thug, free Jeff, he's Jeff. One of my one of my close friends, and he's a guy in music that has been bitten as clones to death. And he broke it down to me.

He like, shit. I just embrace him. I want him to do it. Let him do it. I influence them, let them do it. If I like them, I'm gonna embrace them. Does it make you feel like maybe you gotta move to something else quicker though? Like you gotta switch it up now. Yeah, good point. No, I mean uh you just stay. If you're a musically inclined person and you love creating and doing things, you're just automatically gonna once they bite this, you're already on to the next thing. And you're not consciously thinking about that. Yeah, no, that's where my head is within it's like, oh, that's cool. Like, that's great. I did that five years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I feel like the if you're creative enough to have built something that people want to copy, the odds that you can do it again are pretty high, right? Definitely. Yeah, you didn't get lucky most of the I don't know. I'm sure there's examples where people did, but like typically if you built something that like enough people want to be influenced by or they want to try and copy it, or whatever the case may be, like the odds that you can probably or already have moved on to like something else that's getting your creativity flowing. Yeah, you just you just keep doing what you're doing and shifting.

But you know, like I said, I had that perspective, and thug broke it down to me because he knows like he's a person that will always pay attention to everything, and he'd be like, oh, I see, I see what that got. And he'd be like, Look, you don't even gotta worry about that. You over here with me. Like just do ABCD and just keep going. I just kept it pushing. So he probably deals with it better than than you have, you think? Yeah, yeah. He's been he's got it, he's got it longer. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So you're trying to keep keep learning how to deal with that? Yeah, I just now I'm at the point where I'm like, I I don't give a fuck. Okay, so now that's what I was wondering. I I don't give a fuck because at the end of the day, you still can't be me. You still can't do the things that I do. Your superpower is that you are you, yeah. That's 100%. That's the number one thing. All artists, please be yourself. Yeah, it's okay to be influenced by people, it's okay to take cues from your favorites and things like that, but be yourself. A lot of people tried there to try hard, so they don't know how to be their self.

So true. I think that they see it's it's goes back to like what I struggle with probably the most too is that like we're doing well here, right? With with One More Time Podcast. But like I do catch myself without the blinders on, peeking to my left, peeking to my right. It's normal. It's human nature. Being like, what are they doing? What are they doing? And you know, maybe we should try this, maybe we should try that. But that's not, you're not feeling no way about it. You're being a student, you're being a student. Shut the fuck up, Henry. So quick Henry. It depends on how you're doing it, but it's like you're being a student. You're it's you gotta study. You gotta look and be like, oh, okay. Yeah. Doing that. He loves the term success modeling. Yeah, which at the same time, it is also like looking left, looking right, instead of looking forward sometimes. There's a balance, I think. Yeah, it is. It's a it's a I'm just a student, Henry. Yeah, I'm just a fucking, Reese made it sound great. I'm an A plus student of this game. Alright. It's a it's uh it is, it is was uh what do you call a success what?

Model. Success model is success model, yeah. No, it's it's real. It's human nature to be like, oh, okay, you take note what's going on, but you still do it, you still do it your way. And then look at someone like fucking Drake, who comes in the game under Wayne's arm, he's rapping like Wayne, and then he ends up, you know, he can go do a Memphis song with BlocBoy, he can do a house album, he can do reggaetones. And it all still sounds like him. That's the key. Boom. That's the key. he's the king of success modeling. Oh god. He's the ultimate chameleon. And the king of the being a student of the game, too. Student of the game, yeah. That dude knows what the fuck's going on. And Drake is, he's cool, coolest guy ever. Yeah. Cool guy. And uh he he just he knows. He's one of those people too. He's like a he pays attention to everything. He's like uh He's tapped in. He's very, very aware and tapped in of shit that's going on. So he's a perfect example of that. Yeah. Everything he does, people be like, oh, Drake's just he still sounds like himself. Yeah, he I'll go, his his dad's from Memphis.

Even if the song overall sounds diff way different than his last song. Yeah, it's still Drake. It's still him. Yeah. You you know it's him. People try to do that though. When he gets on that song. When he gets on that don't do it, right? They don't. Yeah, it doesn't matter what beat what it is. When he gets on that song, you know what time it is. That's his greatest talent. It's him It's sounding like himself on anything. It's him. Yeah. That's why he is. That is why. He's him. He's the guy. Damn. Tell me about it. So this is a perfect segue. It's like you like read the notes or something. Ah, he never does this. Um Drake was obviously featured on the like intro portion of Flu, right? Yeah, Flu Game. Yeah, Flu Game, sorry, sorry, Flu Game off of Diva Volume 4. Yes. The latest project that took about four years to get a uh full length Reese project, or what was that? That was like almost four years for like a full-length Reese project for me. But I dropped the other three Diva volumes when during the pandemic. Yeah, okay.

And I did like a really huge pop-up here in Atlanta. Oh, I was there. Yeah, everybody came to that shit. So it's fire. But during that time, uh, I was just focusing and doing stuff for Diva and I'm like, all right, for volume four, since this is going well, like I did a collab with Stussy, all that type of stuff. And I was like, Spitfire. Yeah, I haven't dropped a full project, so I'm like, I'm gonna make this one special. I'm gonna do a gangster grills. Yeah. So called drama. God. Gangster gangster. Yo, what's your favorite? What's your favorite gangster grills of all time? Uh my favorite gangster grills of all time. Yes. Next hit. Yes. I have I gotta go. The Pharrell Gangster Grills, the In My Mind prequel. Dedication three. Yeah. I said it. There you go. Dedication two. Two's hard too. Dedication two. And the little brother gangster grills, actually. Bro, how many? There's so many that I forgot about.

Yeah. Yeah, little brother like I almost forgot about the skateboard skateboard P one, bro. Little Brother Gangsta Grillz and, you know, Trap or Die, Jeezy, like, of course. but those are like my Oh my gosh. Favorite. Honorable mention, fabulous uh oh my god, that's no was it no competition, I think it was a grill. Drama's the gods. He did everyone that had Freck Billionaire on all them freestyles, he was going crazy on West Philly Freck. I rocked the best ice. Bro, somebody give Drama his fucking flowers if you're not like. I break the trap down, like I'm trying to catch mice. He was going crazy on that shit. Shout out Freck Billionaire, wherever you are. Yes. No, so you know, Drake on that intro. I remember you posting that way long before the album dropped. You posted the actual, it was like a voice uh message. Yeah, I because the little clip that I put in there is actually me and him were me and him were having like uh deep convo about some stuff in uh yeah, what was going on in your life? Like paint us, you know, like what's the concept?

I wasn't really high, okay. So like I was ha, I made Diva as another way to a different way in another way to market music because I don't really fuck with TikTok. I ain't want to do all I don't do all that stuff. I'm not, I don't search for viral moments, but I really, you know, I like clothes, so I'm like, hmm. And you put that shit on, bro. Yeah, so I'm like, oh, you know what? I'm. I said, I got an idea. I just took an idea of all my favorite things growing up. Like, I loved Smack DVD. I loved. Japanese fashion magazines like Popeye and skateboarding stuff. And I was like, oh, okay. I'm just gonna do these little EPs and call them volumes and make them look like magazines and it's all photos and covers of lifestyle shit. Yep. And I'm gonna, I don't want rapper merch. I'm just gonna make my brand and put it around that. And that's what I did. Name the project. Yeah, the brand. Name and name the brand, Diva.

Damn. Yeah. I didn't even, I didn't even think about the intentional. Oh, the magazine? Every everything you do is intentional, so I shouldn't have fucking doubted you. Come on, bro. The magazine things. It's Reese. Yeah, look at the every cover. I know. They're all magazine. I know. He's out now, I know, but I just I didn't. Yeah. And all the photos and stuff that are shot, like for those covers and things like that, they're all from like some of my like Diva Volume 2, my guy. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him, Evan Mock. He's uh he's a pro skater, but he's like a really, really big model, fashion model. Okay. He's like crazy model, skates He's in the gossip girls reboot on HBO. He shot the cover for that because we're driving around on my G-Wagon in Miami because they had us down there for a Dior show. So Evan shot these photos of us who were just out doing random shit, and then I used the cover for it. I used one of the photos for the covers. Like he's not even a photographer, right? No, he just shoots photos and stuff like that.

So yeah, that's it's lifestyle stuff, bro. Yeah, if like rappers, artists are the biggest divas in the world. So that's one of the things I got the name for the brand from. It was that, because my mom would say that, like, oh, diva, you you act like that, like you want to get your way. And I'm just like, Diva's not, you know, there's always been like a female context on diva, but it's really not female. That's how all artists and everybody who feels like they're of importance, they act that way. It's an attitude, it's an attitude, man. It's a it's an attitude. And then one of my favorite skate companies growing up was girl skateboards. There you go. It's a feminine name, and it's a team full of dudes. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, huh, what am I naming? Oh, it's easy. Diva. One word. That's a perfect example of influence. I think you just you just painted, I would say, like everyone listening, like that's influence. For you to go back, how long ago was girl skateboards? I mean, girl skateboards.

Long time. I don't even remember that. Yeah, girl skateboards are still around. Girls started in like 90, what was it like, 94 like that? Sure. So, like when you were becoming familiar, yeah. This is back. I started skateboarding in 98. Yeah. So, like, and so then, you know, now when you're creatively thinking about like, hey, I want to start this brand, I want it to be tied to the music. Well, you know, how how should I call it? You know, whatever. Diva, girl, you know, like that's influence, man. I feel like the crazy thing when I started it, before like I when I was just designing the stuff and getting ready to start it and doing it. I told, I didn't tell anybody about it except for um like a few big OG streetwear skate guys, and some of them were involved with girl, and it was like the name of your brand is fucking genius. Why didn't we think of that? It really is. So good. Dude, it ties everything together. I'm like, you had girl. I just got it from that. It's an evolution, it's an evolution of it. Something Virgil would do.

Yeah. Shout out my man. Yes. I mean, I mean, miss ya's. Yeah. So like what was the context then? So I, you know, sorry, just to get back to like the Drake voice memo. Like, what I was going through? Yeah, like what yeah, what was going through your mind? Like, man, like fucking music stuff, like, you know, we're human. So I we'll get to the point. I got to point where I was really bummed on like just like music stuff. And was just like, bro, I'm over this. Like the way things were going. Like, I just wasn't hype on it. I was just like, I'm cool. Then the world shut down. And I was, I really blew mine. I was like, bro, I was on tour. I had started a tour, and like my first two, three shows were sold out. And I remember I got to my New York show and they canceled the NBA. That shit was crazy. But I was bummed after that. And I was like, bro, I need to do something because there's no shows, there's nothing else going on. I'm like, ah, you know what?

I'm gonna do something that I've been told by some very successful people that I know that I should have did a long time ago. And I think it's I think I'm at the point where I want to do it now, so I made Diva. But the thing with me and Drake was I was going through that, and uh we're he hit me up to ask me about some stuff that he was going through. And uh it's very funny how those conversations started, but like we would talk to each other like every day, send each other funny shit, and then like uh he would he just would randomly like send me like voice notes of like really like inspiring, like, look, bro, like don't trip on anything, like this is what's going on, and it and that and it it gave me I'm like, damn some of your own friends don't even reach around to say those type of things, you but is the fucking biggest rapper in the world can take his time to send you some real shit. It made me be like, all right, let me fucking get on my shit and yeah what I'm supposed to do.

Yeah. Damn. I I feel like I can't remember who else you were talking about, but you kind of said the same thing about like someone else had said something, and you were like, my own friends don't even fucking tell me that. I don't know. I was doing some research and in some other interview said something similar. It's it's real, bro. It it's it beats sometimes the complete strangers in your life. They end up being some of the most realist people, yeah. Than other people. It's weird. Damn. It's an odd thing. That's wild. So how involved is Drama in the, like, Gangsta Grillz projects that he makes. I guess like your your you know, your perspective is coming from your lens with Diva volume 4, but like how involved is he in like the making of the um the project? Well, I know with Tyler's and stuff, like he would go, he'd be there for some of the records he made and stuff. He'd like that. He like people come in, they play the songs for him. He'd be like, I like this, I like this. He I played him songs, he's like, This one's fire, this one. We should probably switch. I used everybody from the original time because, you know, the Gangsta Grillz was always it was DJ Drama's voice, but you can't forget about Don Cannon.

Right, Gangsta Grillz without Cannon. That's correct. And I was always really close with Cannon, so I brought both of them in to do that. So they're there for all of it. Isn't that like is he sending you beat packs or anything? Yeah, like that? And Cannon. Yeah. He made, he made Euphoria on Diva Volume 4. Can't have Gangsta Grillz without Cannon. Cannon. It has to be on there. Right. So Euphoria is one of the more I think fan favorites as well. Yeah, yeah. I shot that video. I did a video for that. So yeah. I think I let me see. I was looking for something in my phone. Let me see. I was having a talk. All right, I'm gonna play all this. Okay. This is a voice note. Let me see. I was having a talk about you the other night. Um, I forget it was this is one of my boys, but he's just asking me. yo, what's up with that Reese? You like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and not in a bad way, just asking, like, he doesn't know who you are. So he's like, yo, what's up with Reese Flair? Like, I was saying, bro, like, I just want to tell you this because sometimes like niggas need to hear it. But you know, like, I feel like in life, you know, you're you're a guy that people like feel um, like I don't know why, but they feel kind of like it's a thing to like write you off or dismiss you or whatever it is, you know.

And I could just tell, like, maybe a lot of the niggas that you came up with and shit, they just like they just it reminds me of like high school days, you know, whereas, like, like, just so you're, you're, you're you're just a solid, like good hearted guy, you know. Sometimes in the in this business that we're in, like these people are so fucked up that like it's the it's the definition of taking kindness for weakness, you know. But I just wanted to tell you, bro, like you're a really good, good, nice like person, you know, and sometimes like we just need to hear that from someone else. Like, I hope you never change that up for nobody. Don't let none of these guys like take that from you because it's something I've always noticed. Like, even the way you check in, bust jokes, like just you're you're just a really like you're a solid guy, man. And and it doesn't go unnoticed by me. You know, it might go unnoticed by a bunch of other people, but you know, I just wanted you to, I just wanted you to know. I know sometimes in life we start to like lose faith and just be like, what the fuck am I doing wrong? But it's not you, you know what I'm saying?

It's just other people. And it's kind of what we always talked about. Like the moment you start to surpass other people, they'll start to be on your dick, you know. Um, and whatever that is for you, or whenever that moment comes, which I'm sure it will come, like, you know, you'll you'll you'll you'll remember this voice note, hopefully. But yeah, man, I just want to tell you that, you know, that. Yeah, that's like damn. That's like one of this one of me and his many combos that me and him would have. Yeah. He's very, he's a very motivating person. Oh, damn. I just mean I already respected the man, but damn, that even more now, like he obviously didn't that there's no motivation to do that other than just out of being genuinely concerned for someone who he looks at as like an authentic dude. Yeah, and like we just me and him just cool. But when he did that, that made that that was like one like later. He sent one before that the one that I used a piece of is like a totally different conversation.

Because he was telling me uh about he was We were talking about this documentary, he was telling me to watch this Tiger Woods documentary. So that's how that one went. But nah, it's real, bro. He yeah, he's one of the people, not a few people, but he's one of the people, like I would say, like in the music industry, artist world that would like that helped me be like, all right, I'm gonna pick this back. I'm gonna get back to get back to what made me who I am, about to make this fucking music. It's so important, man. I mean, I I talked about this when I was just working with, you know, artists uh when I first started getting back into music, and it was like, you gotta find some circle of people who have dealt with the stuff you're going through, or maybe will deal with the stuff you're going through, or maybe they're going through it at the exact same time as you, whatever the like stages of of your career and like where you're at. Because this shit is not easy, bro. No matter, no matter if you're at his level, if you're at your level, if you're at someone who's just getting started level, right? Yeah, it's not easy, and all these you have all these people and putting their opinions in from the internet that don't do anything.

Yeah, just sit behind their fucking fingers. This album is ass. What are you doing? It's like all these people that fucking work a regular job, feel like they have a say-so or like uh opinion that's valid on what you're doing or what they think is easy. It's not the music industry is not for the faint of heart, it's not for the fucking weak. It will spit you out. Yep. Chew you up and spit you out. What's it? What's what they say? Yeah. It's what the old folks say. It's what the old folks say. And it's true. That's that one stays true. Yeah. It stays true, it will. So if you don't stay grounded and just again know yourself, Drake song, know yourself. There you go. Know yourself. You're fucked. Yeah. How much do you think it is like high school? All the way. It's gotta be, right? It feels so It's all the way. like even just being in like the media, whatever like world we live in, it's so fucking weird, bro. It's all it's all the way like high school. Like you can be cool with somebody.

Like, I don't really be close to a lot of like people in there. Like, I have a lot of face value. I'm like, oh, what's up, bro? Whatever. Like, people be cool with you. Then one second, somebody they can find out, you talk to a girl that they like that you don't even know, and then they you got beef with somebody. And you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. What the fuck is this come from? You don't know. It's like high school. Yeah. And it's very, it's God. I I just I just see people like sharing stuff for like people that I know they don't actually fucking care about. And it's just all like instead of your homies' music. Exactly. I've never been the one to do that. I I like what I like. I do songs with people that I respect, and like I look at like we're actually friends. Like I don't care about all the extra shit. Like, nah. Yeah. Again, I'm a I'm a purist, and maybe me being that way is to me, you know, why I feel like I feel like I have like a I'm at like a glass ceiling, sort of with certain stuff. Cause you know, I mean, I always look at me and Key and all of us two nines like I felt like we were child stars.

We came out of two. Yeah, we came out of two nine. Like, we went through a lot of different phases of music, bro. Like, we came from the beginning of Twitter. Yeah. Through live mixtapes through SoundCloud. SoundCloud to Spotify. To streaming. Yeah. Bro, I got put on the streaming from shout out to this nigga Caveman. caveman, bro. He was around drama and canon, bro. I had no idea. I was like, what the fuck is streaming? He was like, bro. The engineer? Yes. I know him, bro. Yes. Everybody knows Caveman, bro. He was the first person to put my music on streaming. I didn't even know what the fuck it was. Wow. There's this thing. Yeah. That was called streaming. Yeah. He was like, we're about to put it on here, uploaded this to these platforms and shit. So you know how you can listen to music for free on SoundCloud? People paying $10 a month. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like live mixtapes was still a thing. And he was like, nah, live mixtapes was popping, but he's like, nah, we about to, I'm gonna show you this. We about to go this other way.

Yeah. Bro, I cannot wait. So I have a one-year-old son. I can't wait to teach him about like what a CD was. Bro. Right. Bro. You going to bust out the CD book? Yes, bro. I just got so excited to think about like what's gonna be my version of like listen, you had to buy music. I found it. I found my old CD book at my parents' crib. What was in it? Man, a bunch of bro, a bunch of DJ Clue mixtapes. Yes. Uh all like the G unit, like God's plan mixtapes. Some old Gangsta grills, and then like a bunch of like mixed CDs and shit. I would make. I was about to say, were these burned Were you just wrote on there like DJ Clue? Yeah, I was burning them because I was like, Bro. I was a little internet nerd. I was like one of the kids, like I was outside doing whatever, doing some fuck shit. But when I got home, I fucked with the internet, bro.

I was one I was on boxed in and like all this stuff, like I would, yeah, bruh. They used to always do this thing, like, oh, the police are gonna come kicking your door down. Oh, yeah, that was me. I was like, the cops were definitely coming Me and my brother used to fucking burn Dreamcast games and stuff. Oh shit. PlayStation games. That's next level. Yeah, we had like the modded, we modded the PlayStation and all that shit. That is I didn't have any friends like that. Yeah, but no, me and my brother was on that. So we went to school. We was like, man, my brother used to burn uh PlayStation games and sell them to kids. So that's how you got popular. Right. Out the internet. It was The burning of the Sega Dreamcast. Yeah, yeah. But are you on like the dark web now? Is that the new evolution? Oh man, I stopped the dark web when I was on Silk Road buying drugs. Yes, weren't we all? Shout out Silk Road. Weren't we all? Shout out to Silk Road. Damn. R.I.P. Right? R.I.P. To Silk Road. That place is nuts. I remember the homie showing me that. I was like, this is insane.

It's like I wanted an eighth. I could buy a hitman right here. What's going on? You own guy, bro. You can buy a pike bomb off that bitch. That place is wild. Oh, the good old days. Social security numbers for 50 cents. Yeah, I remember. Yo, they just brought back a memory of mine. So crazy. This is this kid I went to school with his name was Carson. And I remember I went to his house. This fool used to drink fucking energy drinks. No, I remember he was drinking fucking surge. He sounds like a white kid. Shout out. Surge. Definitely a white kid. He Sounds like a white kid. Yo, drinking surge. He was drinking surge. I had it at Carson. He built a he like he was like he was like, I was like, I built my own computer. He built a fucking computer, and I was like, You're fucking weird. And he would just listen. At the time, I'm like, what the fuck are you listening to? Come to find out later it was drum and bass music. Oh yeah. I didn't know that at the time. But I was like, dude, just sounds like the Gran Turismo car select screen. Oh god.

What the fuck are you doing? Let's play the game already. he was like, look at he used to play that and play fucking counter strike and be like, yo, look at this shit. And he showed me Silk Road, and I was like, damn. Damn, this is crazy. You're fucking weird, bro. It's like I would kick it with him all the time. Of course. He was helping you buy drugs I was so good. I would kick it with him all the time. I bet he's a Bitcoin millionaire now, too. Yeah. Probably. I haven't seen him in a long time. Let's find Carson. He tag Carson. All my all my random white friends in life. They were the ones who showed me all the alternative things, and like, hey, this is this. So I learned a lot of shit from from them just doing like random shit. I'm like, yo, y'all are fucking strange, but this is tight. Fuck it. God, the bar was just set so high for us to like teach him some new alternative shit. We're his new white friends. So like, do you have anything good? Let me let me stew on it. Okay, you think about that. I'll ask the next question. Um so obviously you had some like heavy hitter features on there on on Diva Volume 4, and you've had you know big features on all your projects, to be honest, right? I think for our audience out there, you know, you can maybe, you know, you've built relationships with these people, so I know it's different, but like if you just speaking from even your perspective, like how important do you think the big features are?

Um for if you're assigned and you wanna, you know, get some streams, capitalize, take a bigger artist fan base and bring them over and they learn about you. It's it's a good thing, it's a great thing. You don't necessarily need them. Artists can blow up off of anything now by their self. You don't need them, but having them is it's not a negative or a positive. Okay. So it does it's more good than it is negative. There's times where like, okay, it might not work out how you want it to, but you still gained a lot from it. You still are like still a milestone. Like, damn, like I got to work with this bigger artist that I might have been, like I was a fan of, and like, so it's a win-win to me. Honestly, it's a bonus, but it's not necessary. It's not needed. I just I feel like I've known, I mean, I've known you for like probably 12 years at this point. I listened to Two-9 a lot, but I really tapped in um with Final Fantasy. I feel like you didn't have a lot of features on Final Fantasy, right? No, I didn't I didn't want any.

I wanted to be like, yeah, am I gonna really do features like that? Yeah, and that's when I kind of actually tapped in and became a fan. So it was. What was that? Yeah, it was 2019. Um I I started like I like I make all types of like different music. So I on Final Fantasy, that's when I started like trying to like trickle in all my little different sounding stuff on there. And I was like, I don't want no features. I wanted to show people like who I am as an artist, yeah, not just like I know people love me for designer trapping, Gold House 2-9, all the just turn Atlanta trap shit, but it's like I'm bigger than that, so that's why I made Final Fantasy and wanted to show people that. Yeah, so I almost look at Mission Accomplished, by the way. Yeah, thank you, man. Yeah, not like that. What's your favorite song on that album? Flings and Things. Bro, you my nigga. Bro, good answer, bro. That's good answer. Dead serious. That's is that your favorite song? Favorite. That's my favorite song on that album. Yes.

I Bro. I that song. he just got so happy, bro. That song was in that song, that the hook. You slid perfectly. Is that the one you were just playing? Like I played it earlier. I came out to garden check. Yes, I got lit. Yeah, bro. The dream is one of the all-time greats. I literally took cues from him and Prince for that song. And it was like uh, what was that? What was that fucking full circle I know I know. amazing. I love that. I love this. Your roast finally fucking worked. Yeah, man. That bro, that's one of my favorite songs. It wasn't even a roast, that was like his best compliment he's gotten today. Yeah, I made that song. I made that song. I was in a thude studio with Thug when I made that song. That's why like if you listen to like the verse, some of the uh some of the cadence in it, it's a little bit of a little influenced by uh little Jeff little Jeff. Jeffy, a little thugger esque.

Got inside of my bed, What's my feelings? Yeah, all that. Yeah, yeah. I was because we were like making a lot of songs and stuff around that time. That makes sense. Yeah. What's sure? What kind of studio vibe do you usually like? Right? Like, what's your typical session where you feel party session or just the essentials? Um, I mean, I always have people in studio with me. Um, sometimes it might be partied out, and other times like we just be chilling. Like, I just like to go in there with all my like my brother will come, like your blood brother? Yeah, my brother, my blood brother. Yeah, like my girl, uh, whoever that might be at the time. Uh, and just my friend, just my friends, really. Like, we be chilling. Like, I like to I'm I'm a jokester. Like, I really like the Joan and Clown, and I be having fun, bro. So, like having all your friends and that energy in the studio is always a good thing. Yeah, it's interesting. That's just what it's all about, man. Is the like I think if the sooner people can make sure that they're like staying true to the fun. Cause we all talk, you know, because on our page, there's definitely a lot of like tips and advice for people that want to make it, and like, hey, do this, do that.

Like, sometimes we feel like I don't know, I feel preachy sometimes, and I'm trying not to not to be. But like at the end of the day, bro, like fuck all of that other shit. If you're not having fun, like none of those other things are gonna work at all. Atlanta, like being from here and making growing up making music here. There's nowhere on earth that is like Atlanta. Like, we have it better than anybody when it comes to making that music. Like, we have a vibe, you know how the studio gets here. Man, we might go to studio, 10, 15 homies, bunch of girls, strippers, it's lit. You recording a song in there, you leave, go to Magic City or whatever, and play that shit. Play the song. Come right back to the studio with some function, and then you back to recording. It doesn't stop. Yeah, you can't just do that everywhere because it's just the energy here is different. It's here for that. Yeah. So that's why a lot of songs and stuff, they be made the way they are. Because that energy. Damn. Yeah, we've heard that before. Uh I can't remember who it was from. But yeah, no, that that definitely I think influences why we have the like sound sound that we do.

You know what I mean? It will, bro. I'm saying influence is crazy. Yeah. Like I'd be in, like I could be in a studio, it'd be a bunch, it'd be a party, a bunch of girls and stuff. Then I might I might make a song. You're probably not making a sad introspective song. We're making a song about girls. Then Sometimes I might be in the studio and it looked like Call of Duty in that bitch. You know what I'm saying? It'd be it, I've been in all scenarios. Yeah. Just make sure you just having fun doing it. Yeah. So, you know, back to the diva the brand, because I went to the pop-up shop that you you know that you had in in uh little five points here in Atlanta. That was a collab with Spitfire too. I did uh I did a collab with real uh skateboards. Yes. That's one of them RIP Keith Hufnagel, he's skated for real and Spitfire. They're all under uh the company Deluxe from San Francisco, so it's like Spitfire Real, Thunder Trucks, Independent Trucks, Crooked, Anti-Hero. It's all those. So it's like yeah, yeah, it's the grail of skating, thrashers in San Francisco. It's all that shit.

Okay, yeah, okay. And yeah, Jim, Jimmy, Jimmy, uh Deebo, he's OG. That's my guy. Love him. Okay. I started Deebo and I was like, yo, bro, I wanna do, I'm doing this my first pop-up because he's like, he loves my music, he loves what I'm doing. I'm like, I'm doing this pop-up in Atlanta, like for my brand. I'm like, I wanna do like be cool. Cause I we have a relationship from skating and stuff. I'm like, I want to do some stuff with Spitfire. And he was like, Yeah, whatever you want to do. You know, do reels. I was like, I want to do real boards too. All right, whatever you want to do. Damn. Just send me the designs. And that was it was a text. He sounds like the man. That's fire. Text call. So, so, So, you know, Henry and I, he's wearing one of our uh, you know, designs. It's a flip, obviously, the Best Buy logo into Best Beats. Available at offkeysupply.com. Shout out to us. But so we are there's tons of boxes cluttering our studio behind the cameras right now. Best buy.

That was the first credit card I ever had. Oh, wow. You had the rewards. It's just really a full circle episode, guys. But so I I do want to get your perspective on like when you started the brand, what were some of the like biggest learning lessons for you? Because we've run into a bunch of shit. I mean, you know, just setting up the Shopify like e-commerce site to uh yeah, a lot of that like the e-commerce site, a lot of that stuff's pretty self-explanatory. It's easy to do, but it's Oh, Oh, the biggest thing I learned and just learned to do in different things was marketing stuff, marketing things. That's a very big big thing, man. You want to make shit cool, you want to make it where people are like, oh, this is this is tight. So that was a big thing. That is gonna be the hard part. That's why we're giving you a shirt after the episode. I learned I learned a lot and still learn every day of you know different ways and ideas to market stuff. So what's, what's been the like for a guy that's not on TikTok, not trying to go viral? Yeah, what is your approach to that?

To marketing, yeah. Man, just relatable shit, lifestyle stuff. Everybody loves skateboarding, everybody loves clothes. Everybody wants to look cool. Simple. Who doesn't love young thug? Who doesn't love the way ASAP Nast dresses or a Yachty dresses? Who doesn't like these people that I've all had a part of Diva? Guess what I'm gonna do? You guys like clothes. Y'all actually like the clothes that I make. Y'all know I'm a fashionable person. Here, wear this. Take this. I'm gonna put it out here and market it and make it look cool. Yeah. In person is a lot of it, right? Well, and in the in the fashion world, I mean, this is even why we're doing this too. Is like, you know, we're doing kind of music-related flips, obviously. So our version of like an influencer is not gonna be just someone who's like dressed cool, obviously. It's gonna be like a producer or like an engineer. Yeah, that's the thing. They're better. I tend to like like things and market things like people that are into the things that in our countercultures or things that we're into. So it's a very, very big thing.

And you're already tapped in with those people, yeah. And it's like I like I took a lot of cues and things. Like I grew up watching how Supreme went from this to this, how Stussy was that I I just knew I'm gonna follow in these footsteps and just do it this way. And seeing that I got to another fact, fun fact about me that I'll throw in here with all the marketing stuff. Me and like Tyler the Creator and a couple other kids, we were like, I was going back and forth LA skateboarding and stuff, you know, at young age. So me and my friends, we were like some of the first, the first, actually the first group of kids that was on Fairfax when like when it was like Supreme was over there, Diamond Supply, Huff, like all those like streetwear stores when alternative dressing started coming in and all that stuff. We were like the first kids over there. So being from here, I would always go to LA and then come back. And people would be like, What's that?

Diamond shit. What's that huff? Like, bro, this shit is tight. What nobody, and more and more kids have started leaning in, trying to get into it and stuff, but we didn't have that culture that I learned from and came up in over there because I skated and was heavily involved with. We didn't have that here. So I tried to always bring it back here in 2-9. That's how we clicked because Key Curtis and everybody, they were into this same shit. That I'm like, you guys know about this? Okay, cool. Let's bring it together. So I tried to bring, I made sure I wanted to bring something to Atlanta that was reminiscent of that to make some Atlanta doesn't. If you think about Atlanta, we have music, we have everything. Atlanta doesn't have a brand that people champion. LA has lots of them. Yeah. The only one I can think of that is like maybe almost there is like God is dope. Maybe, maybe. But I mean, I'm just I don't know.

But but but I'm I don't know. I'm I've seen people wearing the shirts there, but I'm like, I'm thinking on a bigger level. No, for sure, for sure. No, we definitely don't have you think about New York. You think about Supreme, you think about Los Angeles. You think you still see, um, Born X Raised, RIP, my boy Sponto, all that stuff. So I wanted to give that, give that to the kids that give the kids in Atlanta that feeling that I experienced growing up and wearing that shit and seeing it. I wanted to bring that here. So, how good were you at skateboarding that got you like in and out of LA and shit? I'm really good at skateboarding. Yeah, but like I just I don't know anything about the circuit. Like were you competing in like tournaments and stuff? Yeah, I skated like Tampa, like the Tampa Am contest and all those pro and Tampa Am Pro contests. Uh they used to have this contest as Etnies, like Goofy versus regular, damn am, all that. I'm very like, I'm super aware, like tapped in with all that skateboard and stuff. Cause like I I still skateboard now, like just for fun, but like I really used to skate, like go film, like hey, send sponsor me tapes, all that stuff.

Yeah. So damn. Yeah. Like I could still go outside if I want to and go like fakey flip like a nine stair. It'll probably take me about seven tries now because that shit hurts. So you know what's funny is not the same knees. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. You know what's funny is I think someone asked you this in another interview, but so Henry records and produces for Germ. Oh, that's my boy. I used to skate with Germ also. I know, but who's better? Who's a better skateboarder? You or Germ? Me. Will he say the same thing? Probably. Really? Germ has a very, very good tray flip. He has he has wet, wet tray flips. Oh, wet tray flips. Like, don't know what that means, but it sounds good. Like a wet jumper. Yeah, like exactly like wet 360 flip. No, germ is good. You play basketball? I used to skate with him. allegedly. He would skate with all of us, like me, him, Lil Nas, Caleb. Yeah. That's all of us skated together. You used to skate with Rich the Kid a long time ago too. We used to call him. Rich the Kid was a skater?

Yeah, we used to call him Meatball. I'm being dead serious. Damn. He's like, he was actually really good at skating too. He still like can do some shit, but like Rich Rich the kid wasn't like, you know, there's people that's like, oh, I skateboard like to try to be cool. He wasn't one of those people. Like he really was outside on the missions skating with everybody. Like he he battled. Dope. Wasn't Future's first name? Meat Meathead. Oh, Meathead. Okay, shit. Yeah. I was like, so Rich the kid was Meatball. And Future was Meathead. We used to call Rich the Kid Meatball. Okay. Interesting. Damn. So what was your um what was your like gnarliest injury? Uh I only really have one. I got I broke this ankle. I got seven screws in the metal plate in there. That's gnarly. Counts. But it was crazy. Like my leg wasn't all twisted or anything when I did it. It was like some weird shit. And I was like, what the fuck? Did you even think it was broken at the time? It no. It felt like my leg just like my ankle kind of like just bent a little bit further than it was supposed to. And I was like, I tried to get up and walk on it, and it just felt like my ankle was just then.

I was like, all right, this sucks. Then I remember our the people at the medics at the skate park, uh, where we're doing this demo, they came and like made me a splint out of a bunch of thrasher magazines. That's right. The lady there, and then my I remember my mom and dad, they like pulled up, and then I went to the doctor. Only thing I remember I was laying on the bed laughing at my dad because he was cracking jokes, and then I woke up the next morning. That was all right. Wow, damn. They did surgery on me like that. Oh shit. Yeah. Who's the uh who's like the best skater rapper now? Like are any of these kids like known for skating that are like coming up and shit, or any? I don't, I just don't even know. Like, who's like oh the best? That's oh, um that's like well known you know, like like a well-known rapper that skates. these days. He's starting to get a lot of buzz, and a lot of the skaters and everybody listened to him. My boy uh he's from Florida, Squills 454. I've seen him. Yeah, he's fucking beast at skateboarding. Okay, he's really really really good.

And a dope artist, yeah, His music's tight. Okay, yeah. So I mean, it's a bunch of kids now. Before it really wasn't like a thing of people skating and making music. Yeah, when did that start to happen? Of like hip-hop and skating, really. intersect? I feel like Wayne is my earliest memory. That was his. I mean, Wayne for you. Yeah. Pharrell and Lupe. Yeah. The ones who introduced it. Okay, yeah, kick push and obviously Skateboard P. they introduced it, but skaters were snobs. So we wasn't really. I fucked with Lupe. Lupe was tight. I love Lupe. Everyone hates on me so hard. I never liked the really, I wasn't a fan of the kick push song. And I was like, nigga, you don't even skate for real. But I don't like that song, but I like Lupe. So he him and Pharrell were the first people to like embrace that and usher it in. Then Wayne got on Wayne was a bigger notable name of somebody that got on it, but you know, he actually genuinely loved skateboarding. So I don't knock him for that.

Yeah. But uh it was that. It started being a thing in music and skaters when niggas started being themselves because it didn't used to be cool to be black and skateboarded. That's what I was I was honestly about to ask that because I remember you said in another interview that like what got you wanting to skate was that you did see a black person skating. Who was it again? Uh uh it was Brandon Turner. Okay, and uh Kareem Campbell. Okay. It's crazy, crazy shit. I first opened a skate magazine. I opened it and it was a Shorty's. one of my favorite teams was Shorty's Skateboard. Like you remember Tony Hawk Pro Skater? Chad Muska. Okay. Yeah. He was like the, of course, the face of Shorty's. Yeah. So the other kid in there is Brandon Turner. I was like, whoa, like somebody that looks like me, and then I saw Kareem Campbell. He was in Tony Hawk Pro Skater too. But those guys were the ones I opened in the magazine and was like, oh, I'm damn this is cool. I want to skate. And I did that. And then crazy years down the line. Probably actually during the pandemic, they did uh Black History Month uh Thrasher magazine. I don't know if you ever seen it.

It has like all the portraits of all the blacks, like different black skaters and stuff. And in the middle of the magazine, it's a two-page spread, and it has the names of every black skateboarder, even the ones who skate and rap. From I think germs in there, little NARS names in there. Nice. My name is in there. They put it down there, but this is crazy. Because I only if you know me, I've told you like my certain favorite skaters and stuff like that. In that thrasher magazine, where my name is, to the left of my name, above it, it's Brandon Turner's name. Shit. Right under mine, Kareem Campbell's name. No. And those are the first two people I ever opened a magazine to see. Bro, full circles. That's crazy. This is the definition of a full circle episode. The title of this interview is Full circles. Full circles. Three sixty flips. Yes. Oh, that's better. That's actually better. Man. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Well, Reese, we've entered a final segment of the podcast, my friend. Oh shit. Nah, that last story though.

That was that was fire. Reese is the rapid fire rampage. Let's go. It's gonna be three-part rampage. Do I answer the questions fast? There, yeah, it's good for sure. That's that's if you want to win the grand prize. Let's get it. If you want, you don't know what it is. The Rapid Fire Rampage Hall of Fame that we've been talking about starting for since we started. Dude, we're starting it. random. Have y'all seen the new Ninja Turtles movie? Not yet. No, is it good? Oh my god, it's so tight. Is it? But I there's a part in this movie because Post Malone's doing like a voice of one of the villains in there. Oh, god, awesome. I keep wanting to sing this shit that he says in the movie. Y'all have to go watch it. He plays a stingray named Ray Fillet. Ray Fillet. Ray Filet, and he's always like, Ray Filet. When he's fighting in the movie, and I just keep wanting to say that. Make that like a hook in his bro, it's funny as hell. Damn, great. Ninja Turtles movie. You need to make that before the interview comes out, or someone's gonna bite it. Ray Filet. All right, let's go. Rapid fire. Okay. First part is just the short answer questions. Alright, I'm gonna ask questions, give me a short answer.

Here we go. Starting with. You can ask Joe Biden one question. What do you ask him? Are you real, bro? Perfect. I was gonna say, do you need a nap or something? Reese, three tips for upcoming artists trying to stand out and gain fans. What would you tell them? Three tips? Three of them. Look good, be gay. No, I'm just joking. No, uh reminds me of Uzi. It reminds me of Uzi yelling you at you that you're gay. The comment section on those videos, bro. I'm sorry. Yo, fuck. I loved watching. I love bro. I loved watching that. That's my that's my boy. I talk to him all the time. I know. During that time, bro, we were trying to kill each other every chance we got. I know, and apparently. you gotta be friends. Apparently, you're still not allowed into uh rolling loud, huh?

Nah, nah, fuck them too. I know. I saw some of the like, like some, like I don't know, double XL or hip hop dx did like a video on a recently. Anytime I say anything. They're on your ass, people post anything. Yeah, and I was just like, I was just telling true because I was like, what? This is about music. What the fuck is that kid doing on stage? Yeah. I was like that's whack. So for context, you weren't the biggest fan of iShow speed being on the Rolling Loud line. Like, why are they have him on? So I don't know if you knew what was not a musician. Yeah. Yeah. And I was, and he was up there. No. Like, I see why little kids purist. I like what I see while little kids not a tourist. Why little kids like him? Like, I understand that, but it's like, you don't make music. Yeah. Why are you up there jumping around, fucking doing the got gawk twister on the mic? Like he did make the the World Cup song or whatever. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah. He made that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I was just like, who really? And I was like, why the fuck we're rolling out had him up there.

And then I seen that it was DJ Scheme. Shout out my boy Scheme. Yeah. He's like DJs for like Ski Mask. He was like, I brought him out on the set in Portugal. It made sense. I'm like, I get it, but you are a fan of quality music. Yeah. Fuck you doing scheme. But yeah, it's like I said that just on some this is the type of shit they do. But they don't they banned me from rolling out at one point and then didn't book me. But me and again, two nine, all of us, we performed at all the first rolling Loud. We made that shit helped make that shit tight. Right. And it's like, but you don't have me there. And I was like, that's whack. So can you actually not go? Like, is your name and face on like a go out? Okay, you just I just went, I just went when I was there. You won't book him. Yeah, I went, I went when I was there. I went and uh would watch Don Toliver. I hit him, I went and watched, watch Don Tolliver. He's a huge Don T fan. He's tight. Bro, he loves Don Toliver. He is he's very, very talented. Oh, yeah.

His music is fire. I feel like I haven't heard his name in a while though. No, he's working. He's about drop a game. Yeah, is he? Okay, okay, yeah. He's tired of it. He's been working, he's been working. But that's what it was. It was just like I like bro. Anytime I make I can make a comment about anything, bruh, that shit. We're living this time where anything and everything ends up on a blog or something like that. So now I just tend to just be like, bro, I'm not even I don't even say so. I just don't say shit. They were so happy they got to bring back the Uzi beef one more time. Like, bro, it's like, bro, they were like, yes, we're bringing it back. They're bringing it back, it's like, bro, do y'all understand that was like in 2016? Yeah. Yeah. Can we leave? You you made videos about squashing it in like 2019 or something. Or I don't even know. Like 2018, bro. Yeah. Thug made thug made us do it. Yeah. I know. It was. Once again, the wise. He's like the wise. Mature. It was It was we were in Houston and it was Gunna's birthday. And uh what year was that when Thug and J.

Cole went on that tour? It's like 2018, I think. They went on tour together. I remember the tour. I don't know what year. The tour, uh uh, we were in Houston, and uh Uzi was there, and he was in the back, and I was right there, and Thug was like, Hey, y'all niggas come here, bro. And I was like, What's up? Cause I seen he was like, all that little look gay ass shit, that shit gay. Y'all I fought with y'all, I fought with him, y'all be cool. Then me and Uzi like sat down. We talked for like because I hadn't seen him and talked to him. We talked for like two hours in the back, chilling, and then we got on the tour bus and all went to the strip club and I talked. Me and him was just talking the whole time. It was cool. It was like it was like just talking to your little brother again, like friend and shit. So yeah, that shit been over with. And then I've seen him numerous times since then. He hits me up on Twitter or I mean Instagram and stuff like that. Or I've seen him. I talked to him a lot. Cool. I saw him in London. Saw him in London and shit. It was cool.

There you go. That's my guy. So so we definitely didn't want to like ask you any questions about this, but you are on a platform. Is there anything that you think hasn't been said or needs to be said with regards to the whole YSL situation? We just wanted to give you the opportunity if you care to sh, you know, say anything or I mean, there's a lot of things I know, and there's a lot of things I don't know. So my only thing is just like, man, everybody pray for Yak, pray for thug that they get out. Everybody else is out. It's just the oh yeah, and Pee-wee, those three guys, man. I feel like the DA is I feel like she has some type of personal vendetta against him, and they're just holding him at this point for no reason because they haven't been able to select the juror. There's all the shit is out there. The case is falling apart. Like they're playing with him at this point. Let that man go. Period.

Did you see that? Did you see the shit that they put out about Trump Trump in the YSL case? No, what is that? What? Though there's a video out of Trump doing this speech. You know, because they were trying to they're trying to indict Trump, and they're saying Fonnie Willis was trying to get Trump went like he started talking about he's like, there's a DA in Georgia in Atlanta Yeah. In Atlanta that has a case going on against some rappers and stuff. And I think it's pretty much saying he thinks it's personal. He said it's racist. He said it was racist. He said, but he said he thinks it's pretty personal because she was fucking exactly someone fucking the person that wait, what she that he he that's saying that she was fucking the guy that got murdered. Okay, okay, one of the victims. One of the victims. Okay. That Fonnie Willis was fucking him. What Trump said that, and I'm like, oh shit, that's crazy. Is there any potential that that's real? Or is Trump just doing like the Trump?

Yeah, exactly. Trump, I don't know, but it's it's there is, but I think it's it's I don't know if it's that, but there's a personal, I feel like to me, just yeah, but that's completely aside from what Trump It's just coincidental that Trump thinks it's personal for the fucking reason. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But I but I all I already thought So you're kind of like shit, maybe this is that's crazy to me. But yeah, I I think it's something personal, and I just he just need to get out, be with his family and friends and stuff again because Doug is a very tight-knit family-oriented person. He has his family with him everywhere he goes. They involved, they all make music. His cousins, uh nephews, his daughter makes music, like everybody, his sisters, everybody, his family, Big Doug, Big Jeff, all they're all very involved in his life, and he's very family oriented. And I don't nobody wants to see him taken away from that. And he's a great artist.

We need slime back. Bring balance back to the force. Yeah, no, for sure, man. Yeah, I appreciate you saying that because yeah, I mean, we didn't want to make it about that whole situation, but I wanted you to be able to speak whatever was on your mind if you had anything. So it made the rampage, not that rapid, but it was worth it. That was neat. That was a good thing. Yeah, I totally rapid fire quickly. We're in the middle of one of the tips for up and coming artists. Oh, oh yeah. It was oh it was B, B cool, be gay. And now, what's your what's your third one? Oh, yeah, no, no. It's no be gay is fine. No, dress cool, dress cool. Oh, dress cool, be gay. Look cool. Yeah, look cool, be gay, be yourself, yeah, or gay. Yeah, if that's yourself. Part of dressing nice is being gay. Yeah, That's facts. Bro, people think you know, if you're a well kept man, they just automatically think you're gay? Right. I know. Yeah, I'm doing my skincare routine with my wife these days, and I I think I'm gay now. And your wife is like, I'm gay now. Your wife is like, you're gay. That's wife. You just put you just you just put moisturizer in the T zone. Oh,

The T zone. T zone. T up around here. You are gay. I'm so gay at this point. What's three, bro? What's number three? Third tip. Third tip. We're never gonna make it out of this question. Um make hits. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Okay. People who chase, I don't, I don't know. I have this thing, I don't like people who chase hits. Make music that is true to yourself. Yes. And that you want your fans to hear. It's cool to like be on trend and be on point with some stuff, but make some shit that you want to make. That goes along with being yourself. But yeah. Love that. But that's that's good. That's good. Okay. I'm gonna try out a new segment here. I'm gonna shut up. I'm gonna keep quiet as much as possible now. Yeah, sorry. This is called ideal audio. That's a working title. I just came up with this. Jesus. Ideal Audio. He doesn't run new segment names by me. This is literally the first I'm hearing of this. We might edit it. I

A. I I A I A. Yeah. Ideal Audio. We're gonna make the perfect song right now, okay? All right. You can pick two producers, three total artists, one of them being yourself, one artist on the hook, two one artist on first verse, one artist on second verse, two producers. Two producers. Create your perfect track. I like this for myself, yes. You're making the perfect, you're making the ideal audio. Well, I don't know if it would be fucking perfect, but in my head, I have an idea. Okay, we'll take Kevin from Tame Impala. Who? on what part? An alchemist. Oh, the beat. The producers. Yeah, sorry, sorry. Producers. Yes, of course. Kevin from Tame Impala. Okay. Alchemist. Okay. I might've got to add one more producer in there. Sorry. For, For slap limits to this. Damn it. You couldn't slide in Bro, you have Al. Shut the fuck up. You don't need anyone else. Tame Impala is just like icing on the cake. You have Al. Al, but you gotta throw some TM88 drums on certain places. Okay, okay, fair. Okay, fine.

So do those three. Yo, we just caved so hard. We did. Well, but if we're gonna go to, I will, I, I wanna make make some different shit. Kevin from Tame Impala. Kev. Alchemist. And Al. All right. Yes. Three total artists. You're one of them. You got the hook, and you got two verses. You slot yourself on a verse. Can the artists be alive or dead? They can be dead. Okay. Ooh. Like yourself, Prince. Oh no. Me? It would be me. I would go. I'm thinking in my head right now. Are you on the hook or the verse? He's working it out. Okay, sorry, just because I really like Reese's hooks. Okay, well. It's not your ideal audio. I'm just saying. It's not your interview. Me on the verse. Okay, first. Which one? First or second. No, I'd be on the hook and verse. We duet. We do at the hook. Okay. Okay. Okay. We're really caving on these You can do it. You can't do at the hook.

All right. You can. you can. You can, you can, you can. Me, and then I'm gonna go. Put Kurt Cobain on the hook. Ooh. Okay. And then the other verse. For the kids. Playboi Carti. Cardi. That's a hit. God. That's a hit. Carti. For the youths. Everyone that's alive is gonna be a fan of something. It's amazing. Okay. A few more here of the short answer. I'm gonna get out of this section eventually. Um, what do the pictures in your Instagram Explorer look like right now? Uh let's see. Let's look at them. Let's check it out. Big booties. Nah, bro. Bro, I'd made sure I do not like look. So this is don't engage with them. Don't like, don't like no girls' pics, and it won't be none on there. So what you got?

Jewelry. Skateboarding. Yeah. Okay. Oh, this is one. Wow. Yo, this is so fucking crazy. One of my favorite skate videos of all time. Alien Workshop Photosynthesis. It had an orange VHS tape. This is Josh Kalis' part from fucking photosynthesis. Yeah. That's crazy. And I just clicked on that. You knew the color of the tape. That's how you know it's real. Bro, yes, this is amazing. He skated to this song called 24 Hours by Freddie. Fox. Well, you better heart it so that it shows up on your floor. You get more of that. I got the video. still. I got this. Okay, okay. So I got that. You got to give us a little more. You know, old, you know, shoes like sneakers shit, sneakers shit, old stuff like yeah, look, drip. Okay. Yeah, drip, skating, food, and then jewelry, and then food. Okay, That's good. I'm hungry. I'm hungry now. No ass. That's amazing. No, it's an occasional ass. Oh well. But you see how many it's really not It's not that much. It's really not. It's really not. I don't know. I don't want to make Henry show his because it's really not. We know what that'll be. Lots of food.

Look at that. My favorite. Hey, this is weird. bro. Ice cream cookie sandwich. All of your favorite shit? Yeah, bro. And I like Snickerdoodle. And I'm clicking on this shit and it's all popping up. Dude, this is meant to be, man. These algorithms are too crazy these days. Man, that shit is look. I mentioned Stussy. Look, is they getting a Stussy sweater? There you go. They're listening already. Yeah, fuck out of here. That shit's crazy. Okay, last one of the short answer. This is the co-signed corner. Presented by Guayaki, Yerba Mate. Give us like two or three artists that you're excited about that are up and coming that we could be looking out for, maybe have on the podcast. Kenny Hoopla, he's on Diva Volume 4. He's black kid from Wisconsin, punk pop artist. Cool. Like he got a co-sign from Blink182. He was just on tour with them in Turnstile. Oh, wow. Kenny's super sick. Um rapper wise, who am I listening to that somebody is up and coming? Is he well I would say he's up and coming because everybody doesn't know about him? I really like uh he signed the money bag, yo, I think, YTB Fat. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I just heard again about him. We were supposed to interview him, but one of his homies got shot and he couldn't come. Yeah. I'm not trying to laugh at that, I'm just saying. No, for sure. that's just the- It's unfortunate. they're into some shit up there, you know what I mean? Yeah, that was a that was some shit. If this was a Judd Apatow movie, that would have been a perfect thing. Like, I could have delivered it as a joke better. I was like, Yo, YTV Fat's coming. He's like, Yeah, he was, but his homie got shot. Yeah. Seth Rogen. I heard it. Yeah. Seth Rogen. If Jonah Hill said that, it would have been way worse. Exact, exactly. Bro, I could tell you, okay, yeah, I heard that now. Uh YTV Fat. Sorry, Fat. I really like him. We love you. Uh let me see. Give us one more. Let me look. Let me look at my one more. My Apple Music playlist. Oh, he uses Apple Music, does he? Yeah, man. Okay. Ben thinks everyone uses Spotify. I use Spotify. Fuck. I don't want everyone to know it. I mean, bro, I feel like everybody knows about any artist that comes out now. Who?

Who? Oh, yeah. Oh, my other my guy, Squills, 454. Okay, yeah. Here we go. There we go. Yeah, fire. I'm listening to Squills on the way. Those are all I feel sexist now because those are all males. Females. Yeah. Women. Um, there's this girl from Canada. Her name is Jaya. She's amazing. You're gonna hear about her very, very soon. Okay. She's fired. She's beast. Nice. There you go. Okay. Perfect. Okay, we're moving on to part two. Finally. I thought like this whole thing was an interview. Just in the rampage. Mini interview. No, this will be a lot quicker. I like questions, so I just be like, Yeah. I like I like people to know what I like. Of course. No, and this has been amazing. We would have like continued it quicker if it wasn't worth it, trust me. Yeah, we've we've done that before. We have. This is the this or that. I'm gonna just give you two choices and you pick one. Simple as that. Here we go. There it is. Auto-tune or ad-libs. Fuck you.

Yeah. You gotta give one up. Mm-hmm. That's right. Auto-tune. Snares or claps. Claps. Keys or strings. Hmm. Hmm. Keys. That sounded like a string you were doing right there. oh, keep the string. Keep the strings. Have you been doing getting rid of? Have you been saying the one you're getting rid of this whole time? Or yeah, I'm saying one I'm getting rid of. Oh, shit. am I dyslexic right now? Fuck me. It's not yeah, yeah, yeah. This or that. So you pick one that you want to keep. Oh, okay. I would so ad-libs. Keep the ad-libs. Claps. Get rid of the claps. The snares, yeah. Keys. I would keep the strings. Strings, right? Yeah, something about Neptunes. Yeah, for sure. Okay. He's totally not going down in the rapid fire rampage hall of fame. I'm not.

Not for speed, but maybe for quality. We could have two categories. Not for following directions either. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Um I suck. That's okay. In the booth or in the control room. In the booth. Ollie or Nolly. Fakie. I like it. I like it. I like it. Babushka or Pooh Shiesty? Man, I'm going to Shiesty mask. Shiesty mask on him. Or COVID mask. Never mind. That's crazy. Yeah, sorry. Sub-zero mask. A bane mask. Rock, paper, or scissors. Fuck. Fuck. Rock. No. Paper. Hand over fist because paper beat rock. Oh shit. Okay. Musk or Zuckerberg. Facebook fucking sucks. I'm. He's also Instagram. And maybe I'm talking about the fight.

Fucking get rid of Bill Gates. Gates? Oh, but you were keeping one. You're keeping one. This or that. I'm trying to think, Do I want to keep? Get rid of both of them. Fair enough. We'll take that. And the last one. Never skate again or wear the same outfit every day for 10 years. That was so sad. I knew he'd hate that shit. Oh my god. That is so terrible. I know. Is that also terrible? That's why I saved it for last of this section. This is bad. Ah, fuck. Yo, fuck you, bro. Yeah. Seriously. That's how I feel about them too. Yeah. For other reasons. I'd have to. I'd have to keep the skateboarding. Yeah. 10 years. After 10 years, you can wear something. Wow. 10 years. It's a good decade. I'd have to keep the skating, bro. I just have to. Yeah, I had to keep the skateboarding.

There it is. It's a stress reliever, probably, right? Get out there and skate. Yeah, man. And peaceful. Oh, part two. Clothes be musty. Yeah. Part two, man. This is the final part of the rampage. Let's go. This is gonna be the most rapid one. I can feel it. This is the word association. I'm gonna say one word, and you just say one word, first word off the top of your head, right back at me. Oh, I love this. Simple. This is great. Yeah, this is how we really find out who Reese LaFleur is. Let's go. Let's get it. Starting as always with hip hop. Oh fuck. Why would my brain just go blank? It's a strong one. That's crazy. This is not rapid Reese. Just Blaze. Okay. Just blaze. helicopter. Petey Pablo. yes. Hot dog. Glizzy. Shark. Baby. Microphone. Sony. C800.

Yes, sir. Granny. My grandma Annie. Granny Annie. Yeah. Cake. Ooh. Lemon. Scam. PPP. Man, what a time. What a time to be alive. Man, bring back that shit. Mine was legit. Yeah, okay. Have a business. Penguin. Batman. Netflix. Passwords. Jail. Rice Creek. Lil. Pump. Interesting. OnlyFans. Fuck. I don't even know what to say to that. That's great. We'll take that. I don't even know what to say to that. We'll take that. Ass. There you go. Okay. And Diva. Me.

What a rampage. What a rampage. What an interview. That's the longest rampage. but I love that. You stumped me on the OnlyFans. I really didn't know what to say. It's good. I was like. He thought we knew something. We usually get like money-based answers, like cash or like ass. Ass is good. That's a perfect answer. No, it is. Reese, we appreciate you coming on the podcast, man. As always, please like, comment, and subscribe. This has been Reese LaFlair, aka Lil Skate. If you fuck with this interview, we are here every week on your ass. And Henry, until next week, what are we doing? Getting out of here. Peace out, y'all. Go to Diva. Yes. In the USA Instagram website, get some Diva. Diva volume four out now. Shout out DJ Drama and all the people involved in it.