I Produced for Kanye & Told NO ONE
H3NRY and Playback Ben talk about a friend who produced a record for Kanye and DIDN'T promote it, the difference between Playboi Carti and NBA Youngboy's release strategies, having as many kids as Nick Cannon and more on this week's OMT show!
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I want you to give this a try. I'm not. I won't please won't do it. Do one time. No chance. One more time. Then we do it one more time. One more time. Spin it. right. Spin it one more time. Hit it baby. One more time. The one more time show, sponsored by Altos, 100% agave tequila. We've got the reposado today. Very flavorful. 100% agave tequila from Mexico. 40% alcohol by volume. And uh yeah, what's going on, Ben? Yo, who's our uh who's our contact over there? Jorge has been very generous. Talk about cultural appropriation. Drinking tequila is appropriation. No, making up a man that's the contact of uh a tequila sponsor. All right, named Jorge. You really outdid yourself with that one. We've been getting some of the appropriation stuff though, like some of the comments when we talk about rap shit, like people like, y'all shouldn't be speaking on black culture. Like, are we appropriating?
Are we culture vultures? I don't know. I didn't think so. Until those comments. This is what happens when you let TikTok comments get to your head. Yeah, you can't do it. You start overthinking and changing genres to pop or like country, maybe you know what I mean? Stay in your lane, country boys. So, what's been going on this week? There's been a lot. Um, I thought it was interesting that we have we have a friend, producer friend. Okay, we have a lot of those. Who let us know. You actually told me this, but let us know that he had a Kanye record. Oh come out. But because of everything going on, he was a little shy about promoting it. I don't think he's talked about it at all. He didn't post it once, not once, right? And that's arguably, you know, the biggest name for anyone to have produced a record for. Yeah, actually, I don't want to give it away by saying another song that's a massive record that he's done. But yeah, regardless, yeah, he I basically hit him up, you know, just checking in on him. You should check in on your friends, checking on your strong friends, checking on your strong friends. Yep.
Uh, and I was just like, hey man, like anything you've done recently that I should check out, like really just like what have you been up to, you know, as you do hitting up a producer friend of yours. Like, what have you been working on? Any records I should check out. And he was like, Well, I do have this Kanye record. But I haven't said anything about it. Yeah, given recent events. Yeah, uh I think I I think I understand where he's coming from, you know. So, as as a producer yourself, how would you approach if you were to have landed a Yay placement in in, you know, recent uh couldn't it have just been a couple years ago or pre-pandy even, you know? Yeah, like how how would you how would you tread, how would you navigate that? How would you, you know, would you tread lightly? Yeah, it's that's a tough one, man. I mean, it's hard to get behind this guy anymore, man. He's just said some outlandish shit that is just impossible to defend at this point.
Prayers go out to him. I hope he's doing well mentally, but like, dude, he's this some of the shit, dude. It's just like where do you he's crossed so many lines. You can't keep saying, Oh, he made graduation. There's like a point where it's like, yes, it was an amazing album, but bro, like, what are you talking about, man? I feel like I would do something similar to what our friend did. I would probably not post about it publicly, but then I might tell my buddies like, yeah, I got a record. Yeah. Damn, that's tough. Yeah. That's tough. Because the internet shit lives forever. The record's been doing well. Uh, you know, nothing like astronomical like you might assume. Just once again, this goes to show that like a feature is only so much. Yeah, yeah, it can only do so much for a song. Um, yeah, I I'm not sure how I'd handle it. Thank God I don't have to put myself in those shoes ever. Yeah, no kidding. Um, you know, I can choose to interview whoever the fuck I want, and if they're on some wild shit, I probably if they like Hitler I probably won't sit right next to them and ask them about their viewpoints on Hitler. Although, you know, there's a place for that too.
There's a place for dialogue. I will I will say that like having productive dialogue with people who don't share your opinions. The last thing I want is like uh, you know, a bias loop or whatever. I can't remember the like term for it, right? For sure. The confirmation bias. Confirmation, yeah. Where it's like you just talk to people who think the same shit as you, so you live in this fucking bubble of here's what I think. Oh, you think that too? It must be like the global truth. No, I'm glad like things like Alex Jones show exist because even though shit that's said that I'm like, holy shit, that's insane. I do not agree with that. I'd rather like know that that's what they think than they secretly like believe this and carry out some kind of you know lifestyle behind closed doors, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, if I were to watch the news, I'm not a big like news, you know, I don't throw on CNN or any of the news channels, right? But someone in an interview recently said that like to make sure that they're getting the full truth, like they'll throw on Fox and switch to CNN and switch to you know ABC and you know, whatever, right? Like all the news uh outlets, they'll basically like go from like far left to far right and just make sure that they're absorbing like what the hell each like you know extreme is saying.
If you want to subject yourself to that, that sounds miserable. That is torture. That is the best way to do it though. Yeah. Is to see like the both sides, both extremes. But man, it's not a game I want to play by any means. Yeah, and I mean, you know, Adidas is obviously in a interesting predicament, right? Where they're sitting on, I think I read like half a billion dollars in Yeezy inventory. Half a billion. Half a Billy. With a B. A Billy. Sheesh. Yeah. So like 530 million or something that they valued it at, right? And so their executives are having to make the decision of like how do we handle this? They're already selling some like newly designed ones that are like the Yeezy style, but they're not called Yeezys. Yeah. But they're but you're saying they have this inventory of Yeezys. Of little of yeah, of Yeezy sneakers. Yes. And they don't know what to do with it. Yeah, they just don't know like how do we handle this. You donate them to children in Africa. That is one approach.
What would you do? I'm not quite sure. I mean, because they're obviously profit-driven companies, right? And you know, to be having to like go to your investors and like shareholders and just say, like, hey, yeah, we're just gonna take a half a billion loss on this, because this, you know, famous rapper, you know, musician, uh, icon, right? Fashion icon, whatever you want to call Ye at this point. Uh, yeah, he went off the deep end. So we're just gonna need you to be okay with this half a billion loss that we're taking this year. It's not really gonna go over well. Happy as well to not be in that position. Lots of positions we're happy to not be in. Yeah, you know. To not be an investor in Adidas. Holy shit. Or the CEO, you know what I mean? Yeah. God damn. Absolutely. So, in other lighter news, I found this super inspiring and kind of like heartfelt and like, you know, we need this. Yeah, like just in the Christmas spirit. This is gonna be airing on the first of the be airing on the first of the year. Nice. This might be on January, this might be January 1st, I'm pretty sure. Happy New Year's, my friend.
Happy New Year, everybody. Let's go. So NLE Choppa dressed up as Santa Claus. Okay. And visited his one of his super fans, who's uh a child in the children's hospital. They didn't report on like, you know, his condition or whatever, but you know, assumedly in a very terminally ill kind of, you know, condition, right? And I just thought it was amazing, man. He showed up. The kid went absolutely bananas. He brought him a whole bunch of shit. I think PS5, games, you know, drip, whatever, right? Dressed as Santa. Dressed as Santa. Just had a Santa suit on, a little Santa hat. Like it was like a fly ass version of Santa, too. Like an NLE Santa. Yeah. And that kind of shit, man. Like, I love to see it. I love to see that for sure. And he's not the one, you know, maybe I misjudged. Maybe I misjudged an NLE Choppa. It did take me by surprise. Yeah. You know, there's other artists I would have been like, oh yeah, that sounds like something they would do. More on brand for someone else. Yeah. Choppa, I didn't know you had it in you, man.
But don't judge a book Buy it. It's choppa. Yeah. Yeah. But I was really, I was really like happy to see that, man. And I think that we need more of that. Yeah. You know, um, artists aren't anything without their fans. Uh, so if you can find a way to give back to the people that are funding your fucking lifestyle and you know, your mansion and Ferrari and drip and ice and you know, paying your baby mamas and shit, whatever, right? Like even just one at a time, you know. If it's just one fan, it doesn't seem like much in the grand scheme of things, but it has a ripple effect. You know, what I mean, it it really does mean more than it seems, and artists get big heads, they get, you know, some traction going, and that seems like it's above them. Absolutely. So, yeah, I also love to see that. Shout out to NLE Choppa. Shout out to NLE Choppa for sure. So, in other children's news. Okay. Nick Cannon has done it again. He is now a father of 12. The 12th one is has been born.
I believe so. So shout out to Nick. Yeah. I I mean, bro, what is the child support bill look like? I saw a meme uh probably like a month ago when the world population hit eight billion. And it was like, shout out to Nick Cannon and Youngboy for getting us there. Yeah, okay. So as someone who just had a kid, right? My kid's seven months old. Yeah. Shout out to my baby boy. I mean, bro. Multiply that by twelve. Bro. You also don't have Nick Cannon money. Yeah. I mean, there's part financial, and then there's part just like he's not going to all their little league games. He can't. There's no way. He can't be. He's a career still. He also can't really be probably around for like the intense child rearing stage either. No way. He's not changing dirty diapers. But he's paying for a nanny. Yeah.
He can afford it. I know. Damn it. The podcast just isn't there yet, man. Like, share, subscribe this podcast so we can have 12 kids each, please. And afford it. Yeah. Speaking of though, you obviously, you know, don't have a wife yet. No kids. Clean slate, baby. Yeah. I think I saw a rapper post uh another year, no kids and like a trophy or something. Yeah. Shout out the Lord. Is that where you're at? Yeah, uh, for now. Yeah, I'm not I don't think I'm ready for that. But yeah, the whole, you know, well, no one's ready for 12. Well, definitely. But I don't know. Like, maybe in five years I will want 12 kids. We're it's ingrained in humans to reproduce. That's like a the a historical, you know, it's it's in us, it's in our DNA to just spray sperm everywhere and just recreate, you know, just make more of you. That's the whole idea. So yeah, but I also talked with someone who's like a family friend of mine. He's an older gentleman, right?
And he has no kids. He's one of three in his family. The other two boys also have no kids, and they're all elderly. I'm talking, you know, 50 plus, 60 plus, right? And he said out of all of his friends, almost half of them don't have any kids. Really? I feel like there's people out there like not having kids, bro. Yeah. So they're fighting that whatever innate human instinct that you know you spoke on, which is apparently, you know, biologically true. We do have this urge, you know, especially like women to be mothers, right? And and even us to like procreate whatever. But I just thought it was interesting because like, yeah, I mean, like half of my friends, if not more, like don't have kids. So I don't know if that's a you know, result of like his lifestyle and I think it's the times. The times are different. It used to be like, you know, picket fence, nuclear family, American dream. One boy, one girl. That's that's what you want. Yeah.
But no, things are different now. Like people are realizing, oh shit, like my life's pretty good without any other responsibilities, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I I do fall into that very stereotypical category though. I would love to have my next child be a girl and done. Yeah. I have a boy, have a girl within the next, you know, two years, right? Have them be about three years or less in age difference, call it quits. I think boy, one boy, one girl is a nice race. It's just the that's the dream, right? But I think about Michael Che, one of his stand-ups where he's like, he got in trouble for saying like he didn't uh he didn't want a girl or something, or he he got in trouble for saying he didn't want a gay son, and he said, but I also don't want a straight daughter. I just don't want people fucking my kids. So like he wants boys for that reason. That's good. I go back to that. Shout out to Lil Nas X, also. Does he really have a son? He's claiming.
Is this a marketing? This guy's a marketing genius. He might end up Is it cap? trolling us with this one. Because he's gay. He's very gay. He's very gay. But obviously, you don't, you know, gay people can get kids as well. Is it a birth kid? Is he is he bisexual? Did he adopt? What's the story there? I haven't really read into it. I didn't read into it. I was just gonna shout out his new child that he's apparently uh claiming. He just announced it via Instagram story. Like is that really the best? Like a tweet? Maybe made a TikTok about it. Shout out a TikTok, shout a little tweet. Yeah, he just said, like, I'm tired of hiding my my son or my child, and like you know, this is it. Posted a picture of the son next to a gold money counter. Yeah. And then Ben Baller commented that, like, hey, why'd you gotta post my uh money counter in this picture? That was his money counter? That's what he claims. Like he designed it I don't know if it was for the comments. Yeah, maybe it's a Ben Baller brand. I don't know.
We gotta stop basing these episodes off of comments. Yeah, we don't know the facts. We're like the worst version of the news here, but I love it. Uh this is not financial advice, this is not real news. This is our opinion, speculation, etc. Yep. So what else has been going on? Um one thing I wanted to talk about last week that we didn't. Um, we've kind of like chopped it up on this before, but I'm pretty into this cold water immersion kind of thing. What do you mean? So there's a lot of science on it now. And is this some like Joe Rogan shit? Joe Rogan is definitely an advocate. He takes it to the extreme, though. I I mean, I think he gets in an ice bath. Ice cute, like a bath freezing cold water with ice. So, what kind of pussy version are you doing? I take cold showers, which is definitely a step in the right direction. But it's really dope. Like, if you are someone who, you know, needs like coffee all the time. I think that's you. That's me. Right?
You're not awake until you have your coffee. I'm a I'm a terrible person pre-coffee. For sure. Not nice. So I don't even like my son when I look at him before I have my coffee. Jesus. And he's seven months old. Uh, but no, the scientific benefits are it's been tested. It's it's real. This is not some eastern medicine. So you didn't get this from the comment section. No, this is one that I can back up. We'll put an article maybe in the in the description. Probably not. No, we we won't. But mental focus, um, physical energy, uh, fighting off sickness. It's linked to all these like really incredible things, and it's uncomfortable, obviously. This is you know, it's like working out. It's like you're putting yourself in a situation that's very uncomfortable. I have to like make an audible noise every time I do it. I turn the shower on every morning, it's cold. I step in, I'm like, oh, son of a bitch motherfucker. You know, wow. wow.
But then you start, you get into it, you're there, and then you feel better, and I swear it really starts my day, man. It's like it's magical. So let me get this straight. You don't take hot showers. Maybe like once or twice a week, I'll do a hot shower. And I shower every day, but no, overwhelming majority, like cold shower. Wow. Starts my day. It's my first, it's my cup of coffee for sure. I'll I'll do some caffeine, but like that. I want you to give this a try. I'm not. I won't please won't do it. Do one time. No chance. Absolutely not. Bro, I just enjoy my hot shower too much. And and I'm the kind, I don't know, you've probably seen tons of memes about about like men who like get in the shower with their wife and then they just like burn their skin because like apparently women I don't know the hot shower. Yeah, like hot burning. I like a nice warm shower. Yeah. Like a comfortable warm shower. My wife is like a psychopath in that, like it's literally burning my skin, like as soon as I step in the shower. My mom had the hot uh the pain threshold for sure.
Women just have a higher pain threshold too. They'll grab like a pot that's like boiling over with their bare hands, you know. Yeah, so as as much as I love a good, you know, sexy time shower with the wife, I don't like it. You're also not trying to burn your skin at all. Yeah. Listen. It's like a constant battle throughout the like shower of like me turning it down, her turning it back up. It's the best things in life aren't the most comfortable. You know what I mean? You gotta make some sacrifices. For sure. Try a cold shower. I'll try it. Okay. Give me one, do one. I'll do it once. See if you feel more awake or alert afterwards, for real. Yo, drop a comment if you actually take cold showers like Henry. This sounds psychopathic to me, but like I kind of understand, you know, what he's getting at here. Scientifically backed. But let us know if you prefer warm showers or cold showers, please. Everyone prefers warm. It's just it's about the benefits. Apparently, not you. It's about the benefits. Sure. So in other news, Youngboy dropped a total of eight projects this year. Yeah.
145 songs, upwards of 400 minutes of playtime. Talk about giving the fans what they want. Give the fans what they want. How do you feel about that strategy versus a Playboi Carti, who people bitch at every single day for not dropping? Yeah. They're like, they're both young and they both have cult fan bases. And they both work strategies. Yeah. So then does that lead you to the conclusion of it doesn't fucking matter? I think it does, right? I think that is where that kind of points. Or if it matters, it just depends on you and your music and your style, I guess. And it's just knowing what you know it's tough to draw conclusions from the these like polar opposite examples, right? It is. Because are all those projects quality? Odds are not. So then what do you think the big is it the difference in the fan base? I think there's some overlapping fans there.
Yeah. And that's the more confusing part. Right. Because what? Some people are okay with the fact that Cardi never drops. No, they're all pissed at him. But okay, they're still fans of him. They are. And then the ones that are in like the middle of the Venn diagram there, they're like loving every single bit that YoungBoy drops. Yeah, I think so. I think that's how it's going. It's tough to like think of, you know, if you're trying to break an artist now that's in their same age range. It's like, what who do you point them to as a success model? Yeah. I know that her episode won't be out yet, but we literally just sat down with Fame, who, you know, manages KB Mike. She works at Warner or you know, second Estate records that has a joint venture with Warner. She was at Cinematic Music Group. She's fucking dope. She was like the mentee of Hovain, Rest in Peace, like the super manager, legend from New York. She talked about just the fact that consistency is key in her mind. And she's like really tapped in with like artist development and like building artists and breaking artists, and she's getting them million dollar deals and shit, right? I lean towards the consistency side of things, man. What do you say about a Kendrick Lamar or J.
Cole that never dropped? I just think the times were different. And I think that they were still doing things consistently, right? I just think that consistency can have a lot of meanings, maybe, right? Where like you still have to be consistent, I would say. On the I just think there's also exceptions to the rule, anything you talk about, right? Always. So maybe there are exceptions to the rule also. Yeah. Right. And that like if you look at the vast majority, if you want to be, you know, one of the like more like greater chance of success, right? Versus the point zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, one chance, right? Of like becoming a Kendrick or a J. Cole. I think that that like track record speaks to the consistency factor. And those probably have like a common theme of like consistency amongst social media, consistency amongst like drops and releases. And like Fame said, you know, it's it doesn't matter as much what you're consistent about as long as you are consistent.
So if you do just drop one full-length album over two years, but you're consistent with promoting it and going in and making new content around it and be creating new strategies around it, then I think it's okay. It's just you got to be doing something. Yeah, you know, whatever you're if you want to spend a little time on this, but you have another one coming up. Maybe that works for you. For sure. But it's about yeah, busting ass and just getting it done, whatever that looks like for you. Yeah, because I mean, I talk about this a little bit as far as like there's the online shit, there's the posting, there's the engaging, there's the whatever like shit that you do, like online on the web, right? But then there's also the in real life shit, right? So you're being in studio sessions with people, you're meeting with people, you're going to events, you're in the mix in real life, like out in the field type shit, right? And that type of consistency isn't always as apparent if you're not blasting the internet with what it is that you're doing consistently. You could also be working consistently to make the best album behind the scenes in the world. Yeah.
Yeah. Like you could be making song after song after song or revising songs until they're perfect. And you know you're not getting likes on that, you're not getting the praise all the time, but it's still getting shit done. Yeah, in the long term, right? Um, but you know, you also risk the fact that like you spend all that time, and if you don't have like a good set of ears, you know, either yourself or like the team that you're around, you could be fucking just wasting all your time. Yeah, indeed. For sure. Anything else been going on? Um, let's leave it with this. Um, Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate just got arrested for human trafficking. How do you feel? On that note, this has been the one more time show. As always, please like, comment, and subscribe. If you have it in your heart to start off the new year with a donation, this podcast doesn't run on ad monetization. So I'm mixing and mastering records for this. We appreciate any bit of contribution that you can make.
Including them, those from Jorge at Altos. Thanks, guys. Yep. Until next week, Henry, what are we doing? Getting out of here. We're getting the fuck out of here. Bye bye. Peace. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.