Fame Interview: 7-Figure Record Deals | Hovain Mentorship | KB Mike House Arrest

The kid was on house arrest. I'm like, Jesus Christ. Cause I'm trying to bring him out to New York ASAP. He's like, there's this one little problem. It's on my ankle. It's not a big deal or anything, but can't leave my apartment. So when we did get a chance to fly him out, we did the management contract. I'd like to give myself a six months time period. I tell you, six months. If we stick to the plan, things are gonna be different. And he listened. A lot of artists don't be listening. Speak on it. Yeah, don't be listening. One more time. Spin a rock, spin it. One more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm playing back then here with my co-host Henry with a three because Henry with an E was already taken. Henry, who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? Welcoming in on episode 86 of the One More Time Podcast. Legendary actress. You know her as Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black. It's Uzo Aduba.

Yo, that's that chick's name. Uzo? I love that show. You got that one. You got that one. Okay, okay. Appreciate it. In all seriousness, folks, we have a dear friend of mine. She's a super manager. Legendary AR at this point. We got Fame Williams, aka Fame Combs in the building. My man, Ben, I'm happy you didn't say Fame Combs first. No, come on. Although that is what I thought your last name was. I was like, she has some relation to Diddy at this point. Right. What is your fascination fascination with Diddy? Everything. Literally. He's just the man. Like, for real. How do you feel about all the like viral clips right now with uh young Miami? Young Miami. I respect it, man. He's a single man living his life. Living his very rich life. Yeah. Extremely wealthy life. Well, I do call her my rich friend Fame. Yes. Because sometimes it's a hard thing to distinguish whether you're the rapper or you're the manager. I wish I could live up to that name.

Because, like, I mean, if you've seen her, you know, social media, she's always got the the drippiest drip on. She's always, you know, it seems like on a private jet or something. I mean, yeah. Yo, you got that now. That's all false accusations. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But no, I I did make the mistake because you did flex like a whole bunch of was it a duffel bag of money or something for your recent signee. Oh no, no, that wasn't me. That was Mel Carter. Okay. Okay. Shout out, Mel. See, I thought you were the mastermind behind that operation. No. Because you're recently at Warner Records. Yes. Well, I'm at Second Estate. We have a joint venture with Warner Records. Okay, Ben. Shout out to the second estate fan. Yeah, yeah. Tell us what Second Estate's all about, who you're working with, how you got, you know, that position. All right. Well, um, so uh got a friend, Trophy, uh, who's friends with Mel Carter. If you guys don't know Mel Carter, you guys should look him up.

Legendary. Um, yeah, so he had his joint venture opportunity with Warner. He was looking for a new staff. So, yeah, Trophy put me on. I took the interview, and it was all good, man. Um, our first artist, first and only artist right now is too rare. So, shout out Too Rare. I see how we pushing him. Yes, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's doing his thing from Philly. He's taking over the internet right now, I feel like. He got it in the chokehold. Like, yeah. killing it. And no one's telling him to do this. Like, no one's telling him. he does it on his own. That's the artist you need. You need the artist that like would do this without you. You're just there to help. I never worked with an artist like Too Rare before. He's very young. I've worked with a lot of young artists, but he's like different. Like he's really different. Like, he directs his own videos. Like he's on set telling the director, like you know what I'm saying? Like he's in the digital group chat every day. Like, yo, we need to put this, we need to do this. And I'm like, yo, this kid is on it.

So I'll be bigging him up with that. Like, he be on his shit, like 100%. Yeah, I feel like every interview that I've heard with, you know, superstars, managers or team members, that's a very like common theme of like they're very hands-on and they know what they want, and they also understand what it takes to get what they want, right? Because some artists maybe have like a creative vision, and that kind of goes to this point, right? And they know what they want to like execute, understand what it takes to execute. That shit is easy. Yeah, yeah, it's just so much easier for everybody on the team because it's like he's driving the car. We're just the passengers. For sure. Just putting gas in. And we're doing everything else that he can't do while driving. Yeah. So for those that aren't familiar, like drop a few of the like records that have been going crazy just so they can put the name with like what's going on. The Chopper record, of course. Yeah, the NLE Choppa record. Going stupid. The one, Lil Durk, Cupid. I like Cupid. That was my favorite.

Cupid's going crazy. He just dropped his latest single, Lil Mama, and then he got a song uh with his friends, Beat It, where they flipped the Michael Jackson. Uh dope. So that's going on. Did they clear that or how's that process? We're in the process of that. We're in the process of that. But then they shot the video and they did like a thriller to it. If you guys haven't seen you gotta check it out. He directed the whole thing. It's really dope. Wow. I like the zone out record also. Yeah, zone out is fire. That's a good one. So, what were you brought on to do? You know what I mean? Like, you know, what's your current day-to-day with second estate? I know you have your hands in a lot of different things, but like for second estate records, you know, working with Mel and Too Rare being your first artist. Like, like what you know, what were they bringing you in to do? What is your day-to-day look like? I'm a project manager at Second Estate. I do a little bit of A&R, but that's like Ricky's thing. Uh Fat Ricky, shout out to Fat Ricky. Shout out. So I'll do it. What a dope team, first of all. Oh. Mel and Fat Ricky and fame. Yeah, and Too Rare as the first artist. First.

Yeah. And then we got our scene director Brittany. Shout out to Brittany. She keeps us all on. Shout out to P's and Q's. Yeah, well, we know you need that. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes we all do. But so yeah, for those that aren't even familiar with what a project manager does, right? Like, you know, we're trying to give people game that are maybe like independent artists that don't understand like the label functions, right? Like, so what is a project manager kind of responsible for when it comes to an artist? I'm technically the manager to the artist on the label side. So if you have a manager, I do everything your manager do, but on the label side. Is that tough for you as an actual artist manager? Like how often are you interfacing with Too Rare's management? Like I'm assuming on the regular, right? Um, yeah, on the regular, but um, like I said, Too Rare's hands-on. So if I need him, I can hit him directly. Like, I don't even really have to hit his manager unless it's like something they have to sign off on. That's like, you know? Yeah. But if it's like, yo, I need you to do these jobs, I'll just text him or call him and he's on it. You know what I'm saying?

His day to day manager must have one of the easiest jobs. Yeah. His day-to-day managers are cool, so He has two of them. Um, but yeah, they're on point. The team is on point. Yeah, so when you joined Second Estate, like was it just happenstance that like didn't Too rare get signed like right after you joined? It was literally. Yeah. We signed him like the day we started, October 1st. Okay. Wow. Did you have did you know that that was like on the cusp of happening? Okay, okay. I didn't know if you just like started Imagine if it's a surprise, that would have been crazy. Yeah, and then people were like, I gave him a million dollars. Like, yo, no. No, I'm literally looking at this online and I'm like, wait, fame joins this new record label. It's a budget sign. I'm like, I thought she was the AR like signs this dude for a million the first day of work. I was like, she must have been the legend at the office. Like, holy shit. I was like, this is incredible. That was all bad. Some blog posted that. I was like, bro, you have to take it. Yeah, it wasn't just me like interpreting it wrong on your page. It was like the internet actually picked it up as like a thing.

Yeah. It was all bad. Yeah, like new record label exec signs Too Rare with a million in cash. I got my picture at the side. I'm like, yo, this is crazy. Yeah. Man, the internet's a powerful thing. It is. That's funny. That's funny. So um, you know, obviously that's like where you're at today. Yeah. I do want to start, you know, kind of rewind a little bit. Like, what was even your first job in music? Well, my first real job, like on paper, or like because I've been doing management for a long time. Um what, like homie manager kind of thing? Where like your friends were rappers, or like nah, it was pretty real. Yeah. But it just wasn't, it was just like my like doing it on my own. So I went to college and I used to do like, you know, the big ass shows, like the Spring Fests, and the So we used to bring like big artists. Okay, like as part of the school. Yeah. Okay. So at first I started doing like open mics, just fun stuff. Cause we went to school in the boondocks. It was like nothing to do.

Wait, where'd you go? SUNY Canton. It's upstate. Okay. It's like a little bit near Canada, I want to say, probably like an hour, two hours drive. Okay. So I started off doing the open mics, and then it was this one kid that was super dope. His name is Don Michael. That's still who you rock with. Yes. Bro, that's incredible. He's so hard. He was like 16, 15. And I'm like, bro, why are you here? Like, you need to be like in back home in New York City. You don't need to be here. Yeah. But he was in school, you know, doing this thing. And he's really smart too. Like, I don't think. Well, if you listen to his music, you could tell like he's really smart. Because he's like a lyricist. Like you gotta listen like six times to get what he's talking about. Catch a new thing every time you listen to it. Still today. So well, yeah, but it's like New York drill influence type stuff, right? Well, he just recently started doing the okay. So that wasn't what he was on, you know, back when you discovered him at the open mic. he was like on some heavy J. Cole Kendrick Lamar shit. Okay, cool.

Conscious rap. 15, like going crazy. Because that was the time period. Words I don't even never heard before. Yeah, why am I even doing this homework? So yeah, that's where it all started for real. I started managing him. So then when I would bring the big acts, like one of the big shows that I bought, uh, A$AP Ferg. Dope. And then he's from Harlem, and then Don Michael's from Harlem. So he opened up for him. And then we got like news press and everything for that. So I'm like, yeah, I'm a manager. You know what I'm saying? See, I put those plays together. So then he had a he was in like a rap group. So like when we got a break from school, I met them. It was six of them. So then we had a rap group, and then we did this. Our first video shoot, we did a cipher. And we did it on the train in New York City. And it at that time it went viral because we didn't have like, you know, all the shit that we got now. So we was on to something. It's funny, like viral. But the term viral has like evolved. It's evolved. Like because back then, you know, even like in the mid 20 teens or whatever, right?

Like if I don't know if this was like 2013 or like when this was like 2012, like, blog era, 2012. Yeah, exactly. So viral had such a different yeah, like connotation then. You know what I mean? And you were like Facebook lit. Yeah, Facebook lit. Yeah, definitely Facebook. Yeah. So yeah, it kind of went up, YouTube, Facebook. Um, it went up. So from there, I started managing the group. So I'm managing six guys now. Oh, it sounds horrible. It was fun though. It was fun, but it was horrible because we was broke. We were so broke, like we were so broke, but we literally made everything like happen, like shit, sharing clothes for video shoots, like everything. And then, you know, some of the guys produce some of them engineered, so we just figuring it out. So that's where it really started for real. Yeah. So, like, there's no recipe or like blueprint for this management shit, right? So, especially when you just were like, okay, I found this guy, and then he was, you know, tied to a group, whatever. Like, how did how did you learn like what you were actually supposed to be doing?

I think um it comes with like I had a lot of good leadership skills. So, like in high school, I played basketball, I was on dance team, and I was always the captain. So I think that's where like my management skills come from. Like, I know how to bring be a team player, I know how to listen, I know how to like you know what I'm saying, deal with different emotions, and I think I know how to handle situations uh uh well, and also I know how to get shit done. Like that's like that. You just an operator, yeah. Like I'm getting shit done. Yeah, if if I'll say anything about you just having you know known you for the last few years at this point. Like, like I mean, you are someone that I look at as like I don't know how you get the shit done that you do, but I'm always like, damn, how'd she she pulled that? And then She's gonna get it done. Like, getting it done. You hear me, Henry. Yeah, that's right. It's not always pretty, yeah. It's not always smooth sailing. At all.

But you're gonna make sure that the task at hand is getting done. Right. Yeah. Okay. So you're managing this, you know, group, and and and you know, Don Michael, right? Like, where does that take you? All right. So, like I said, one of the guys uh produced. Yeah, well, a few of them produced. So uh Levy Gray. That's also this is a loyal motherfucker. These are still people to this day that I still work with that are in your circle. 100% because Levy Gray. If you see anybody not with me today, it's their fault. They fucked up. I believe it. That's it. I believe it. So, yes, Levy Gray. Uh, he started doing a production for Smoke Dizza. Smoke Dizza was over at cinematic. Yep. And we used to always be in the studio. I used to be there, blah, blah, blah. At the time, I'm living in Georgia. I don't know where my life is headed. You know what I'm saying? I'm still trying to figure it out with the guys. What took you down here at that point in your life? Uh, the time, at that time after school, I was with someone, and she had uh uh internship here to be a so you followed a girl.

I followed my heart, Wow. classic tale. Yeah, so yeah, it was good down here though, man. We was living good, it was better than New York. Shit. I was sick in New York, a little a little cheaper down here, huh? Way cheaper. Shit. I had a car, I was living life down here, but then we got stuck. I got stuck like musically, because I'm like, all right. I used to go to studios and stuff like that, but it was like all right. I met Meezy too. Shout out Meezy. Shout out Meezy from the mound. Yeah, yeah. We just had TP on the uh podcast who's Jets and Maids manager. Fire. And he's like best friends of Meezy. We also had Redd Push on, also best friends of Meezy. So Meezy, you already know what time it is. What's up Meezy? We got fame on here now. And we're literally in Stone Mountain. You don't have to go anywhere. Like you're here. Yeah, so we used to go to the studio, Ludacris Studio. Yeah, yeah. DTP. DTP Fact. So that's the only thing I used to do out here musically. And then um, yeah, Levy started working with Smoke Dizza. So I used to be in those sessions, and then Johnny and I'm seeing how I worked with him. So they offered me a position at cinematic as a project manager.

So that's where my real like first job was at. That was the first big girl job. First big girl job. So I moved back to New York. Terrible decision. Um, but you know, I was doing anything that I had to do to like, you know what I'm saying? Keep my job. So I did that. I had to roommate. Damn. I went from like living in a big ass house out here to like living in a brownstone with four guys. It was terrible $3,000 a month for just your one room. It was terrible. So yeah, cinematic was my first job, man. Shout out Johnny Shipe, shout out Johnny. Shout out Hovane, yeah, everybody over there on that side. Rest in peace. Yeah. Rest in peace, Hovain. Definitely. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, Hovain was a big mentor of yours, specifically on like elevating your management skills. So now that I know that you were managing before, but when you meet someone like a Hovane, manager just takes a whole different like meaning, right? Yeah, you're looking at what you were doing, you're like, okay, I was probably doing some like stuff right and whatever, but like what did you learn, you know, most, whether it was just personally speaking, because he had a lot of wisdom just as a person or professionally, like, you know, what are some of the biggest lessons learned from Hovain?

My biggest lesson learned from Hovain was to walk into every room like you belong there. Mmm. Damn. Yeah. No weak shit. No weak shit. Because people can sniff that out. Mm-hmm. If you're like kind of get the anxious, like damn, y'all just made me sad, man. I know. Rest in peace, Hovane. Indeed. No, for sure. I mean, it's it's you know, terrible to hear that news. I literally had just ran into him at the revolt summit. Okay, yeah, exchange numbers with him. Cause we, you know, we had met through you at one point at, you know, something you were doing with Loquel or whatever. And so I was like, Yeah, you know, we met at the Loquel event. He's like, Oh, yeah, for sure, lock me in. He was like so cool, man. And he was like, Let's do an interview. And I was just like, I that one hurt for me, even not even like knowing him directly, but just seeing the impact he's had on so many people and just a legend in the game. I mean, he was like, you know, Brooklyn's finest at that point. Like that's Brooklyn's finest. Yeah, like, oh man, you gotta give credit where credit's due for sure.

Yeah, um, so yeah, so do you do you think you had that in you before you learned that from him? Like, were you already walking in rooms like that? Or did that really like I think that I was doing it not knowingly, but like he gave me like an extra confidence. Because if you know Hovain, Hovain is walking in every room, like, you know what I'm saying? With that shit on, with that shit on, with his $2,000 sneakers, you know. Right. So I think he just gave me more confidence. Like anytime I felt well, I spoke to Hovain literally every single day. Like Yeah, whether he wanted to speak to you or not. Well, I think he wanted to speak because I'll text him, because I'm not really like a phone person. Yeah, I know. So if I text him, he's the one calling, you know what I'm saying? But he busy, so he don't want to be on doing that texting shit. But yeah, so yeah. I forgot the question. No, no, just just basically if if you already had some of that in you, it sounds like it just became more intentional. Yeah, yeah. Like once he put you on of like, yo, this is how you're gonna get respect in the game.

Yeah, I literally call Hovain for anything musically. Like if he was here today, I would have called him before this interview, like, yo, what's some shit I shouldn't say? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's like, man, say what you gotta say. Like hey, he's he's watching down on you right now. You're doing great. You know, fame was a little nervous about it. She was like, I'm shy. I was like, you're not shy from the fame that I've witnessed, like turning up in the studio, like wiling out. I mean, you know, that definitely surprised me that that's how you you would describe yourself. Okay, I'm kinda shy. I wish I had some sunglasses right now. I feel like I'm like every four iPhones are watching you right now. Yeah. Now you're giving up our secret, Henry. Your iPhones, Jesus. I mean uh DSLR Sony cameras with the $5,000 lenses. Of course, it's all about the lens. Definitely. So I do want to kind of break down, you know, KB Mike is an artist that you work with who I feel like you took from discovery to obviously, you know, signing a deal with a major. Yes.

Right. So I want for the people out there, kind of break down that process, you know, at least as much as you can, right? Like, how did you first discover KB Mike? How did he come into the fame vortex, and then we'll work our way towards, you know, the the deal that was signed, you know, not too not too long ago. KB Mike is my pandemic baby. So during the pandemic, you know, we was all getting creative. This is the pandemic, baby, right here. The one more time podcast. We're geniuses. Yes. So during the pandemic, uh shout out COVID one time. Sorry. So, you know, we was doing creative things online, you know. Uh I was doing the live for my uh label management company. What'd you do on the live intro, looking for artists? Shout out. So basically, I give artists the opportunity to introduce themselves. We got five to ten minutes. So someone actually sent me his song that was on the live, like he wasn't actually on it. So I played it, and I'm like, oh, I was in the studio.

I'm like, damn, this is kind of hard. It was his song Deep in Love. Go listen to it, man. Yep. So then I followed him on Instagram, hit him up. He had a manager at the time, so I spoke with them immediately. I'm like, yo, you know what y'all doing. The kid was on House arrest. Oh no, I didn't even know this about Mike. I'm like, Jesus Christ, because I'm trying to bring him out to New York ASAP. I'm like, bro, we got to get you here. So he was on house arrest. He's like, there's this one little problem. It's on my ankle. It's not a big deal or anything, but can't leave my apartment. So we just kept in touch. You know, he just constantly kept dropping music and shit. We just, you know, I gave him ideas. Uh Johnny was tapped in. He was like helping with mixing, this, that, and the third. So when we did get a chance to, you know, fly him out. Uh, we did the management contract. He he loved it. He was just, he was with it. Like he was fucking with the vibe. He came with his friends. You know, there was just like, you know, just something you gotta do. Because a lot of people don't know this about Mike.

He's not an artist that thought he was gonna be an artist. Like he wasn't like, you know, how artists be like, this is like my dream. This is something that kind of happened for him by accident. Like he was just singing on Facebook and went viral. And then people's like, Oh, you should like sing, you know, whatever. So then he started singing, and then now look. Wow. Damn. So we worked for like what I do is I'd like to give myself a six months time period. I tell you, six months. If we stick to the plan, things are gonna be different. And he listened. Like that's a lot of artists don't be listening. Yes. Speak on it. Speak on it real quick. A lot of y'all don't be listening. Like at all. Like, and if y'all listen for real, like I feel like you know, things will be better. Mike listened. And it was really because I think because he really didn't know. Like, he, like I said, he came into it like blindsided. So he because it is almost like if an artist has this big dream of being an artist, they sometimes feel like they know it.

I think they know that they know the path to get to the big artist. And they don't. And he was just like, I was just fucking singing on Facebook. Like, yeah, well, what do you got, fam? Tell me how it works. So he listened, man. We did that New York trip. We was in the studio. We did like two, two or three videos back to back. So we releasing them back to back. Just working. Just going crazy. And then he used to do he kept doing his organic, like singing on Instagram, Facebook. Yeah. And then one song used to went viral on TikTok. Oh, yeah. He already had like labels, like hand them up. Like, you know how you do the early check-ins. Oh, oh my god, I had so many of those when I was working with East. Hate those. Yeah. It's like, what are we doing? Yeah. Oh God. I'm like, just don't text me until you're actually ready. Serious about this thing. A number or something. So yeah, that went viral on TikTok. And you know, that was like the beginning of the TikTok. So once that went viral, literally every label was calling my phone, like trying to get this kid. Every label.

So we took every meeting, we took every flight, dinner, whatever. Oh, yeah. We enjoyed it. Yeah. Oh, steak and lobster on Tuesday. I'll be there. He couldn't believe it. Like, he couldn't believe it. He loved LA. Everything was his first time. New York was his first time. LA. So he was having the time in his life. Like the labels were going crazy with each other, like battling. Like, oh, you got this? Oh, what you got? I love that. You're telling them, yeah, we got a big offer. So what do you do? Sony said they'd give us things. I had too much fun doing that. Yo, how much of like a flex do you do like when you're talking to the labels? Like, or do they it was my first time, so I wasn't doing too much. Like this where Hovane was really like probably sick of me. Like, damn. But he was so proud. But I literally called Hovain after every meeting. If I got a text, you know this guy, because you know Hovane knew everyone. Of course. So if someone DM'd me, I sent to him, who's this? You know what I'm saying? Like, we have a meeting, he'll tell me what to ask, what not to ask. You know what I'm saying?

So he was with me the whole time. It was because of my first like real signee. So yeah, it was it was huge, but it was fun also. And I learned a lot. So next go around, I know what to do, what not to do. You know what I'm saying? Like I learned a lot from that situation. So how do you end up signing to Republic? Like what was the you know, decision making criteria there? So like I said, a lot of labels were like already, like, you know, given the early conversations, Republic was one of the first. So that's where he felt that they genuinely fuck with him. He felt like everybody else was just after the record. You know how it goes. Yeah, right. So that's where I make much I make the artist make the decision. Oh, you have to, right? So, you know, if things go, listen, man, it's on you, man. Like, we're gonna work out the deal points. We're gonna make sure you don't sign the bullshit deal. But if you feel like this is home, yeah, exactly. Like the specific one. Yeah, it's like if it checks the boxes, you know, for a good deal from you and the lawyer and you know, the team, then it really is like, okay, do you like the feel of being at Republic and you know the team that's there?

Because how important is like the team that you're signing up for? It's so important. It's gotta be, right? That was my biggest thing. I was explaining to him. Like, we gotta make sure that the team is, you know what I'm saying? Cause they're gonna be the ones to move you around in the building. Like everybody else is not gonna care until they make them care. Like, yo, you gotta hear this kid, if they're not doing that, nobody's going to care. Just like people just going to do their job. Yep, which is why so many artists die on the shelves of a record label because it's like if you don't like rally the support of, I mean, the marketing person, the radio person, the digital person, the AR, the project manager, the whoever, right? Like, you gotta have that whole squad, like, you know, singing your praises within the building to actually get shit done, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's a fact. That's that's crazy, yeah. So shout out to you. I know that was like a big moment for you. Huge moment.

How cool was it? You know, you mentioned Mike had not really even like traveled that much and stuff. Like, how cool was it seeing like you helping to, you know, along with of course his like artistry and like his you know skill set that people were interested in? Like, how cool was that like being a part of like his first and stuff, you know? Yeah, super cool. We documented the whole thing. It's kind of what I do on the regular though for like all artists. Like, I have a big heart, so it's like it was dope just seeing him like you know, come from Chicago and like seeing everything for the first time and like just enjoying it and being with house arrest. Could you imagine? Like, I'm a house arrest and now, I'm about to sign a million dollar deal. Like, yeah, and fly around the country taking meetings, and I feel like he's still super humble. Like he still hasn't done anything crazy like you know how people get a lot of money and just go nuts. He hasn't done anything crazy. He bought a pretty crazy bus down. I'm just kidding. Oh yeah, yeah. It was a watch? Yeah. it was calm it was calm it was calm A little rolly action, it was icy, automatic, but shit I'll be in every country that that money, yeah, I took a few trips but nothing too crazy for sure but you know so you do have a very warm heart I mean shit even just like the fact that you took my call like when I wasn't shit to be honest yeah no I mean that that still means a lot like more than you'll ever know for sure I mean the fact that I like cold DM'd you saying that like I loved what you were doing with you know the artists that you were helping with at cinematic at the time and the intro was just starting pretty much I think you had done the first one or something after I reached out um and like you responded to me we chopped it up obviously like you know you've been there for me if I have a question or like need something and whatever um but like tell me about buying your mom a house because like speaking of warm hearts like I know that like people like to rap about that shit and whatever once again that's like a rapper thing I feel like but like a manager thing that was like one of the I want to say that was like one of the first big things that you did you know once you were seeing some success with you know Mike and and you know the other things you had going on I bought my mom a house before KB. Oh wow there you go even more impressive yeah that was just yeah yeah that was that was probably the biggest moment of my life today.

Like still, like today, I still be like, damn. Like, that's where I just came from, my mom's house. When I'm out here, I'm at my mom's crib. Shout out Mama Combs. So yeah, shit. I used to be homeless, man. Yeah. Yeah. I used to be homeless. When was that in your life? Uh mid-college. So when I went to college, we had a house. Like when I first left to college, we had a house. And then I honestly can't even tell you where things went wrong. Like, I don't know what the hell was going on. Just the money ran out. Yeah, I don't know what it was, but I I know it was like some bad business. Um, my mother's from Trinidad, she's not from here, so you know how that is. We can't get everything that you know, people that's you know, not a white guy can. God dang it. So yeah, like it was a point where I couldn't go back home, like at school. So I got a spot off campus.

And was home at this point, like family-wise, was it in New York? It was in New York. Okay. So I used to just stay in college. Like, I did two extra years in college because I really had nowhere to go. Wow. So it was a point where we had like somewhere to go, but it wasn't like home. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, watching that happen to my mom, and then like us being with family then getting put out, and then like literally having nowhere to go. And then uh rest in peace, my brother. He had one friend that took us in, and we was literally like in a room. Shout out to C's, man. Yo, shout out to C's, shout out to C's like a brother's friend just taking you in. Yeah, and I just seen him recently at Thanksgiving too. So he took us in, he had an extra room, is me, my mom, and my nephew in one room. Wow, wow. So I'm like, yeah, this is. And you're grown as fuck at this point. I'm grown as fuck. Yeah, this isn't. This isn't like you're a little kid, and like, oh, I get to sleep with mom in her room. That's why I'm like, no.

Yeah, I can't come back. Yeah, so I just stayed at school. I was doing everything. I was selling t-shirts, hoodies, drugs. Not cocaine, I didn't get that deep. But you know, the little nigga bag. Skills. I was selling everything. Um, yeah, we was just figuring it out. Moving music, we doing shows. I need the school to pay my artists because I need a percentage. So yeah, seeing that, and like that was like the worst time of my life. So it was like, I gotta just do something different. So then when I started working at Cinematic, I used to just save my money. Save my money. I used to save all my money. And I told the CFO at Cinematic. Um, I was like, I'm gonna buy my mom a house this year. And he he, I don't know if he believed me, but when I did it, he was so fucking shocked, and he supported me the whole way. Shout out to Don. Shout out, you know, we ain't cool right now. We ain't too cool right now.

But shout out to Don. Uh yeah, he helped me through that process too. It was it was an easy process. I ain't gonna lie. They say buy a house, y'all, but fuck it, man. I'm dealing with the homeowner shit right now. This is just like, not it. renting is fine. It's like, can't I just call the landlord? It's like, oh wait, no, I'm the fucking landlord. Like, I gotta deal with these busted pipes and whatever. And my mom is older. So she's called me for everything. Oh, yeah. Bro, I can't, I don't know. Yeah, me neither, man. My wife wears the pants in this relationship for sure. Like, thank God it was a new home. So we don't have too many problems right now, but she still literally calls me for everything. The future could be dark. Yeah, But hopefully we get her a man and then he can fix it. Yeah. So, did you have that? Like, is that when like the hustle really kicked in, you think? Nah, I've been hustling. Okay, okay. I'm from Brooklyn. Okay. Hell yeah. I'm from Brooklyn.

We gonna hustle. Okay, cool. But uh, yeah, I've been hustling, but that's when I was like, okay, I got it's like, bro, you put me in a room, like I'm gonna make some shit happen. So once that cinematic door opened, it was over for everything else. Because I already knew, like, I already knew. Like the vision is so clear. Like, like now my second state door is open, and I'm at Warner. Alright, watch this year. Game over. Yeah, yeah. Over. Absolutely. Once you put me in them rooms, bro, it's it's over. That's that's when the Diddy comes in. Yeah. I can do anything. I know. I I can it's like it's like a mini version of Diddy is already like starting to form. Yeah, you feel the energy now. Like I saw you popping your shit with like your new suburban with your like transport company. Yeah, we're doing everything. And I was like, okay, yeah, this is like a new Diddy in the making. It's only uh it's only a matter of time before she starts putting some ad libs on her artist's song.

No, I don't think I'm going to get to that. Yeah. The studio, I'm behind the scenes. So one thing that I think I've you know learned from you, you know, along with a couple other of like my like people that I look at as, you know, kind of like success models for me, honestly, is like this whole mentality of brick by brick. Mm-hmm. I mean, like you live and die by that shit. Yep. I feel like you've probably posted that like once a day. I don't know, at least once a week for sure. We built in the empire, so we gotta do it brick by brick. We gotta just, you know, stick to the plan. Don't switch the plan, man. The plan's been the same since day one. I've never changed anything. I already I know like I said, I I know where I'm going, so it's just brick by brick. It gets tough, it gets very, very, very, very tough. But as long as you just stay focused, you're good, man. Because the tiny little victories aren't always as sexy, just individually, but they all add up to a bigger thing, right? And it's you gotta every day it's like, if you got one. Those are the ones that's laying the brick.

Right, the tiny wins is laying the brick, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And just that one little piece doesn't seem like a lot by itself, but when you add it all up over a period of time, build an empire, in the words of Hovain, celebrate all wins, big and small. Yes, yep. I definitely saw him, you know, post that, and I think you had you know reposted it for sure. Is that something that like the broader team always buys into, or do you have to like constantly remind them, like, yo, chill, like this is brick by brick. You know what I mean? Like, can you feel like the angst, you know, sometimes amongst like the team, like the artists and shit? Yes, yeah, some of my artists today feel like they're supposed to be like the biggest artist in the world. It's like, bro, you have to put in the work, like you have so much work that you're not putting in. Fame, why am I not Drake yet? Like, do you know what Drake was doing? Right, he was putting in the work on Degrassi, bro. Exactly.

Like wheelchair Jimmy, and then they got it too easy now. They spoiled, they think, oh, they gotta just post on Instagram one time. Oh, look, they got 20,000 likes, so post it again. Yeah, get 20,000 more likes. Yes. Post it again, you know what I'm saying? That's what I'll be having to deal with. But we get through, yeah. We're getting there. In in the in the artist development phase, because I feel like you're really great clearly at like finding talent. First of all, you got a fucking killer ear. Um, but then like that brick by brick mentality of like developing an artist and building something that someone like a republic's gonna give a flying fuck about, right? Like, what are some act like what are the most important things do you think, right? Like, is it social media consistency? Is it music videos? Is it features? You know, what I mean, like, what are some of the parts of the plan if you can share? Like, I think. Well, let me first say that artist development is my favorite part of the whole thing. I feel like it doesn't get enough, you know.

People just don't care about that no more, but I do. Hell yeah. So, yes, I think it's just overall consistency, like everything you have to be consistent with. It starts with the music. the music. The music has to be good, has to be good. Listen, guys, the music has to be good. Get it, get a second opinion about your music. Some feelings are gonna be hurt, but it's a fact. The music has to be good, but overall consistency, working in the studio, videos, good branding, marketing, you know. what I'm saying, promo. The or the artists have to go back to organic promo too. Like, they feel like everything has to be so super polished. Like, oh, I don't want to do this, cuz no. Get on Instagram, tell people to go buy, like, subscribe, like you know what I'm saying? Like, yes, Guerrilla marketing is still a thing. Shout out to QC. You go downtown, you see QC shit everywhere. Yes.

The flyers are all over the city. everywhere. Like, like bro. I'd be in Houston. I see QC shit. Like, right, kill it in. Don't go buy your next eighth of weed, spend it on flyers. Thank you. You could probably get a hundred, three hundred, I don't know how many hundreds of flyers and go fucking walk your ass around the city and put them up on fucking telephone poles. Especially my artists in New York City. I feel like they don't take advantage of being in New York City. In a densely populated area with everyone's walking around of people that could be fans. Yes. Crazy. Yeah. But I think it's just overall consistency. It's less about the actual tasks and more about the consistency and actually doing them to the best of your ability. Yep. Yeah. How much money do you think it costs, though? A lot. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So that's a real but this is where I come in. You know what I'm saying? Because I can make some shit out of nothing. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But there does need to be some money. Yeah.

Some budget. Yeah. Like. I went wrong with that shit a lot of time. Like putting up my own money. Mm-hmm. Managers don't do that shit. Hell no. I've learned that from multiple managers. Don't do that. Because the artists don't be really caring as much as we do sometimes. And it's like they we'll spend $2,000 for a video for them to promote it once. You know what I'm saying? Like, let them invest first. And then if it makes sense, then you know what I'm saying? But I've made that mistake a lot because I believe in the artists that I work with so much. Yeah, that's the hardest part, I think, for me. Me having like, you know, dabbled in the management thing, right? Is like I care so fucking much. Like I can't sleep. Thinking about these ideas of what it's gonna take to get you going crazy, right? And you can't care more than the artists, and then you share it with them, and then it just be like the excitement's either not there or it is there, and then we don't execute. Because I'm all about executing.

If we I write a lot of things down. If I have my book bag, I'll show you on my notebook. So if I got ideas, we need to see what's in the secret. fan notebook. You know what I'm saying? And then we checking them off. That's what we're doing. That's why I get shit done. If I write it down, we getting it done. So that be the part that be killing me with artists. It's like, bro, if you say you want to do something and you don't do it, and I notice that you're not executing, you throwing me off already. Because it's like I don't want to keep talking about it. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't still know. We should have been did that. Like why are we still having the same conversations? This is why I fuck with fame. And Henry knows this about me too. Like, like he is a very much so like he does have a great skill set of like, you know, like high level vision and like strategy and shit. And like I'm cool with that, but I'm also the like, what the fuck do we do today? What the fuck are we doing tomorrow? Let's get it. Like, you know, but they're they they both need to happen. Right, they're both important. You do need to understand like what it is you're doing, what you're working towards.

So, like stepping back, especially like at a time like this, right? This will be the first episode of 2023, right? Oh, yeah, Correct, yeah. Happy new year, Fame. So, this will be the first episode of the new year. So, this is the perfect time, you know, for those that like to, you know, kind of get into the new year spirit, right? Of like, what the fuck are we like actually working towards? But then, like, come a weekend of the new year, you better be fucking like doing some shit. Right, you know what I mean. Let me tell y'all what to do. It's the first episode of New Year's. Get your notebook, write everything down, not the notes app, yeah. Not the notes app. No, get the notebook, write it down physically, check it off as you go. I'm telling you, yeah. My life is a completed checklist. Yeah, for real. No, there's something powerful about like putting pen to paper and being able to it's something so satisfying about crossing out something. Yeah. I love it. That's better than sex sometimes. I'm not gonna, I'm gonna keep it a lie right now.

I'm just saying. I'm just saying. That shit is amazing. It really feels good for real. Yeah. I mean, there's just been a few things, like, you know, in 2022, that we did like set out to accomplish that we did, even like our last, you know, in-person event that like we were. I've been going crazy, though. Yeah, we had been talking about it for so long, and then it was finally a moment of like, oh, like maybe enough people won't be in town because it's the holiday. You know, we were like, whatever. Fuck that shit. Yeah, and it was packed the fuck out. We had like 350 RSVPs. I mean, it was it was amazing, right? So, but I just am so much on your wavelength of like, let's get this shit done. You know what I mean? Um, so what exclamation point right there, you know? All right, so you tweeted something that got featured at the Billboard Women in Music uh awards show, right? Okay. This was this year I'll attend as a VIP guest. Next year, which will be this year now, next year I'll get an award at the Billboard Women in Music.

Awards. Shit, I hope that still happens, man. Yo, that was so funny because I tweeted that just randomly because they was like, oh, tweets is gonna come up. And you were there. And I missed it. I was in the bathroom. Shit. shit. Everybody's texting and calling me, like, yo, Ciara said your name. Yeah. I'm like, I'm trying to run back. Yeah. Yo, if I was there and you would have stood up and I would have been screaming. She would have told me to come on stage. Yeah, because she was like, wow, we got some ambitious people at home. I was like, Ciara, you misunderstood the fucking tweet. She's in the building, bro. I would have been screaming. They probably would have kicked me out. Yeah. That would have been that would have gone viral. That was a great experience, though. I got to meet uh a few of my idols there too. Yeah, how did it feel being around just a powerhouse of music, you know, professionals that are women? Super dope. First of all, I got to go with all the women that was at cinematics. So that was dope off road because I look up to a lot of them. Tish Louar. Um Mariah, Erica. Um, who else is there?

Damn, I don't want to forget about it, but whoever was there, you know what I'm saying? Those are my peers and some uh people that I look up to. So then being there and then getting to see all the women that I follow, like on Instagram that I never met, so it was cool seeing them. And uh Stacia Mack. Stacia Mack. I always mess up her name. Polo G's mom. Okay. Love her. You love Polo G. I love Polo G's mom as a manager. I love Polo G too. Yeah. When I was working with Laquel, we went on the Polo G tour. Oh, the guy Legend tours, his first uh headlining tour. Okay, right. Wait. Yeah. I was wondering where your Polo G obsession came from. So I thought it was so cool that he had like his family as um like working as his tour group. Like his mom was a manager, his sister was a road manager, his aunt was a tour bus driver. It was like all women, too. It was so cool. And then I just look up to his mom because she's such a great manager. And you know, the mom, son or daughter manager thing never really works out. Shout out to all the momagers out there doing the thing though.

Yeah, like that works out really well for her and her kids, and she's pretty dope. She followed me back on Instagram. We got to talk a little, and then we'd be talking now. She gotta invite me to her crib though for like one of her holiday parties or something. Let's manifest that shit right now. I'm manifesting it. Yes, you will be invited to Polo G's mom's holiday party. this next year. She's listening to like all her interviews and her lives and stuff. That's dope. Her and key. Key's, another one, too. I really love Key. Key's a legend. She's gone crazy. I never met Key, though. Wow. Okay, we can definitely make that happen. Yeah. What is the plan to get the award? Shit. You know what I mean? Like, what are we doing? You're all about the you know, the the notebook with the action item. You know what I mean? Like, well, what's the what's the vision? This one is for my artists. I need y'all to work harder this year so I can get an award. It kind of does boil down to them. Yeah, like I'm I mean, I'm doing my part. There is only so much a manager can do. without

The artists, yeah. I feel it. I feel it, too. we still won't manifest this year, though. We're gonna manifest it. Maybe too soon. I think you're in a better position just because of the artists that you've chosen. Just the criteria you have to work with someone automatically puts you in a better spot to be there this year. For sure. Let's do it. Are you hopeful for like the state of you know, women executives in the industry right now? You feeling good about Hell yeah. Women executives, women artists, women rappers, really crazy. Yeah, yeah. The ladies are doing their thing right now. Um, you know, I think women just always do it better. So, but I don't got nothing against the guys, man. I got a lot of male exec friends that are great at what they do, same people that I you know look up to all as well. Yeah, but shout out to my lady. shout out to Trophy B, Abby B. You know what I'm saying? You know how we're doing it. Yeah, yeah. Where's Trophy at now? In the scope. Okay, because she was at cinematic too, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, I met all of them at cinematics, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's dope.

Well, what else are we you know looking forward to this year? Anything else you want to shout out about 2023? Um, intro. We going big. It's kind of sad because we started shooting the intro show, yeah, and then we lost Hovane as one of our hosts. So I've been kind of like trying to figure out how I'm gonna handle that. Like, I can't replace him. You know what I mean? Is that a podcast? Or what is what is the show? So the intro show is kind of like uh I wouldn't say making the band. Like I said, I give the artists, so I do a studio session, and now I allow artists to come introduce themselves. It's kind of just like a scouting talent, but we were gonna make it into a show. So the first episode we did, we was listening to the music, and then we picked the artist that we want to come do a live audition. Okay, kind of American Idol kind of vibe, kind of vibe, but like more like you know, cool. Yeah, for sure. The hip hop version. Yeah, so we were supposed to shoot the second episode, December 18th, where this artist come into the studio. So that's where we are now.

I just gotta figure that all out. Yeah. But we're doing it. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do it. I have to do it. You have to. I have to do it. I need to see this continue. I can show you the first episode. It's pretty, it looks really good too. Like I said, like, it really looks like some shit. So I have to complete that. I'm saying this on camera. You wrote it down. I will complete the intro show this year, I promise. Because the artist still be hitting me up, like, when are we gonna reschedule? Reschedule. I just need some time, man. Yeah, no, definitely understandably, but like I want to see that come to fruition because like I was definitely there with you when you were coming up with this idea. I thought it was super dope. And yeah, like just kind of being that new age, making the band, you know, Yeah, in fact, you know, Diddy, I need to put it on revolt. Yeah, you know, if you're watching Diddy, because I know you're. tapped into all the One More Time episodes. For sure. He stays. He's going to be the first one Well, fame. We have entered a final segment of the podcast. Oh shit.

Let's do it. This is when your shyness will not suffice. We need you very loud and bolsterous during this final segment. This is the Rapid Fire rampage. His favorite part. Look at him. So excited. This is when he gets to shine. This is my segment. This is time to shine. I'm ready. So it's a three-part rampage. Start with some short answer questions, very simple. Gonna move into a this or that. I'll Give you two choices, and you pick one. And then ending with a word association. I'm gonna say one word and you just say one, maybe two words off the top of your head. Real simple. Sound good? Yep. Let's get it. Starting with the short answer. Rampage! Yeah. And a couple of these actually shout out your interviewing. You might have answered during the interview, including this first one, but let's find out. What is the greatest joy you have ever felt? Buy my mama house. Indeed. Fame, give us one conspiracy theory you believe in. I don't have any.

None. Fair enough. You have $100,000 to roll out a single. Give us a basic breakdown of how you spend it. $100,000 in 2023? Yes. We're gonna do a dope music video, no more than $10,000. we're gonna do TikTok campaigns. How much are you spending there? Probably like $50,000. It's over from there. Yeah. Viral hit. Yes. Um, we're gonna do YouTube ads, playlisting. And how much are we spending on YouTube ads and playlisting? Damn, where are we at? We're at $60,000. We're at $40,000 left. Probably like $20,000. And then yeah, we'll probably do some guerrilla marketing with the rest. Have the artists do some regular promo. I like it. There we go.

Yeah. Least party. Shit like that. Yep. Fame, what is your favorite and least favorite thing about Atlanta? My favorite thing is the peace. Like I could just, you know what I'm saying? Get some New York is hectic. Hectic. Um my least favorite thing gotta be the food. Wow. We've had so many native ATLians that their favorite thing And the favorite thing is the food. Nah. You can't get a good slice around here. Well, you definitely can't. Well, yeah. Can't get a good slice. You can't get a good slice of za here. The West Indian food is not that good. I give y'all a soul food, though. Yeah, I'm like, come on. Yeah, yeah. I got soul food. At least give us that. It's what we do. Other than that, and then I live in Conyers. Yeah.

Well, so does it even count? Does her opinion even matter? It definitely gets knocked down a notch, I think. For sure. Okay, moving on. Fame. What are a couple of immediate red flags when meeting people in the industry? Name drop. Oh, I name drop you all the time. That's cool. But as long as you're not like, you know. They're like fame. No, I'm just kidding. Uh people that name drop. Um maybe one more. Terrible handshakes. Mm, weak handshake. Yeah, I know, I know a person off a handshake. a handshake. That's crazy. It's part of that confidence thing. Like Hovein Twitter. I just know. You just how good yours? You're gonna feel it. man. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I'm gonna feel a handshake. I like that. Okay. Boss right there. Fame. What is the first day of the week? Sunday. Thank you. God. Score one for Sunday. I thought we were friends. Score one for Sunday. It's

really weird now. Wow. Can't wait to chop up that compilation. What is one of the smallest things that can ruin your day? Anything negative. Just negative. Just anything that's uh just a stranger. Just keep that shit out of here. Yeah, just bad vibes. I like it. Wrapping up the short answer, Fame. What is your favorite curse word? Bitch. We got Christine's favorite curse word. That's my favorite curse word. Bitch. Bitch. Part one. I say that, like, just cool and dope. yeah, like a casual bitch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it can mean good things too. Yeah, yeah. Most of it, is good things. I'm not calling you know nobody out their name. Cool. It'd be like, you know what I'm saying? What's up, bitch? Most of them are my homegirls. Like, bitch, crazy. Yeah.

Part two. This is the this or that. This or that. This or that. Exactly. Starting with rapping or singing? Singing. Guitar or keys? Keys. This is one I think you answered, but I'm gonna say it anyway. Call or text. Text. Twitter or TikTok? Twitter. Silly hats or silly socks? Hats. Logic or emotion? Logic. House party or the club? None. Homebody. Homebody. Babies dressed as animals or animals dressed as babies. Babies dressed as animals. Probably so cute. Oh my god. So true. Be a five who permanently smells amazing or a ten who permanently stinks. Five. Hygiene is number one over here. He's a five, or he's a ten, but he stinks. Yeah.

No, get the fuck out of here. That trend. I feel like it's still going. I don't know how it's made such a run. It's made a run. Yeah. This is an interesting one here. Be on death row for a crime committed by the most important person in your life. Or the most important person in your life is on death row for a crime you committed. The person gotta be. I can't go to jail. I gotta get the money. They'll understand. I'm gonna bail you out, baby. I like it. I'm not sure that's how death row works, fame. I don't know if you've seen enough. TV shows. You're right, you're right. Um, I'm not gonna bail you out, but I'm gonna get the money to figure out a way to know, make some things happen. Oh, love it. Oh, now we're plotting jail breaks. Like Yeah, okay.

Last one of the this or that. Only listen to Pitbull for the rest of your life. Or banish Pitbull to North Korea for the rest of his life. I ain't gonna lie. Pitbull, we gotta banish you. I ain't gonna lie. The rest of my life is crazy. Only Pitbull. Yeah, so. How about only bad Bunny? It's a little better. It's a little better, but nah. Did you see the stats that Bad Bunny put up this past year? I mean, like, no one touches him. Bro, no one touches him. I might as well listen. Right. I'm Surprised you didn't with 9.9 billion streams. I can't believe it. Shout out to Bad Bunny and Yeah. I mean, I think he did what, like, $435 million in, like, just tour. tour and merch sales off the tour. Then he had 9.9 billion streams, it was easily the number one. By far. The number two was like 4.5, or like 5 or 6, whatever. That's the kind of shit I pray for.

Like literally. Like, yo, God, please send me an artist that's so focused. Like, oh my God. I met one of the co-producers of La Jumpa, which is like his most recent. Yeah, he's well, you know, it's like the most recent one that's going crazy. I met him at the Since the 80s recording camp, and he was like, Yeah, like I just had the got this bad bunny place. I was like, bro, what does that even feel like? You don't even need to retire. Yeah. Yeah. You're done. Shout out to Since the 80s. I was like, what did you what did you buy when you just knew that you got the bad bunny placement? You know? That's crazy. That back end's looking nice. Anyway. Well, yeah, my producers, they start working on, you know, shit for bad bunny. What's up with that? Yeah, it's not a bad strategy. They need to tap in the Latin market for sure. Because those streams go crazy. They are a good fan base to have. This is the word association wrapping it up here. It's all gonna boil down to your performance on this last section. I'm gonna say a word. Give me the first thing off the top of your head. Here we go.

This is it, fam. All right, let's do it. Yeah. Starting as always with hip hop. Biggie smalls. Lighter. Lil' Kim. I thought it was, put your lights on. Oh, okay. I thought it was because she's lighter than Biggie Smalls. I was like, I always try and put myself in the mindset of the guests. I literally just thought of that song. How did she arrive at that? Okay. I feel you. Moving on to Elephant. Zoo. Sushi. My mom. Sharkeisha. Ghetto. Shout out the line in the Too rare song. That's so funny. I think Dirk says it maybe. Yeah. Wow. Sharkeisha. I've never met a Sharkeisha, but me either. I hope I do one day. I hope I don't. Ben, you're ruining the word association again. A R. Fame.

Taxi. Yellow. Culture. Black. Microphone. Henry. New Year. New goals. Cheeks. Booty. Tequila. Death. She passed on it earlier. Yeah. She was talking a big game about how she wanted to get liquored up before this, and then she's sober as a fucking doorknob right now. So sober. yeah. She's on the water gang. I can't drink, man. Lil. Kel. Lil Kel? I don't know why I said that. Kind of like Shout out to the Kel, man. Indeed. What's he up to? Okay. Ben. Yeah. I don't think we have time for that. OnlyFans. I need one. Oh lord. Podcast. One more time. One more time. Intro.

Coming soon. What an episode. Has been Fame Williams, a good friend of mine. As always, please like, comment, and subscribe if you fuck with this interview. We're here, baby. Be on the lookout for the intro TV show coming soon. Yes, KB Mike going crazy. Two Rare, second estate records, the whole squad. Appreciate you coming on for real. Thanks, fam. I appreciate you. It's been a long time in the works. So 2023, yeah. Everybody go up, man. Let's get it. Get that shit done. Henry, until next week, what are we doing? Getting out of here. We're getting out of here. Peace. Bye-bye. Peace, y'all. Be up in a foreign, skrt and up. Oh, don't want me to, shit dripping off, middle finger to the law, yeah!