Dos Dias Interview: Summer Walker's Engineer | Sean Garrett | Vocal Production - OMT Podcast

Maybe about a couple months ago, I was like, I'm tripping. I'm not just a track engineer. I'm not just a uh mixing engineer. No, I'm a producer. I am a producer. And I would have to say that every day. That's the value that I add in the room, is that I do know how to produce. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine Conversations with Genuine People. about music. Hosted by H3NRY and Playback Ben. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. We were already having so much fun off camera, so I have high hopes for this episode. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host. Henry with a three, because Henry with an E was already taken. Henry, who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? Welcoming in on episode 70. Ooh, you guys got a lot of episodes. We do.

70. Episode 70 of the One More Time Podcast. Legendary Spitter straight out of Virginia Beach. It's King Push. This is the one that Henry and I both agreed on. Because he said he was gonna call you Push, and I was like, yo, that's perfect. I get that all the time. Good. Thank you. You have to. There's no way you don't. Yeah, 100%. And then I'm over here asking you guys should I wear my hair down? Of course you are. Like, yeah, put it down. Definitely. That'll mess up my roast. Yeah. In all seriousness, we have legendary producer, recording engineer, mix engineer, DJ. The list goes on and on. We got Dose, motherfucking Diaz in the building. Dose. My guys. Good to be here, man. Yes, Sir. Shout out to Deshaun, who was episode 60, maybe. 10 back or so. Something like that. For the connect. Um, he's a cool guy. He is he's a pretty cool. We like Deshaun. Yep, yep. So he said that you play the role of like chaos control hotline for Deshaun. Like anytime there's chaos happening in his world, you put out fires.

You're like a go-to. Yeah. Even if it causes chaos in my world, I I tend to be there. He just hit me like um like yesterday, I think. Yeah, yesterday, he's like, hey, man, can you get like three inch Oh, let me do this voice. Hey man, can you get like three engineers? Um I might really need them, man, just have them on standby, I'm like, okay, let me rally them up and never hits me back afterwards. So bro, of course, those are people who wanted like some type of opportunity, you know what I mean? And like now I look like the asshole. The asshole. You know what I mean? But whatever, I love him, man. I I do try to keep everything copacetic for him. Yeah, yeah, he clearly did not plan ahead for the Sony Music Publishing Conference that he's apparently in charge of finding engineers for. That's bro. Is that what it was for? I think so. He was like, Yeah, we have all these, you know, people in town or you know, ready for this conference for this, you know, Sony Music Publishing Conference. Yeah, and clearly he like bro. Like shit. I guess we need engineers to like make music, right? And of course, we know, like, but the thing about Deshaun is it's like like to the to the public, man, it's like, which is the way that you would want things to be, of course.

Like, you know, it looks like it's all out under control, which it it ends up being under control, but you know what I mean? Like, yeah, he's a good guy. He's all right. He's yeah, it's kind of like the duck, uh, you know, swimming, right? Like you don't see the legs going fucking nuts. Exactly. He looks very like calm, cool, and collected on top. No, but that's a bar. It's swimming. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. yeah. But so he also mentioned one of these others, one of the other examples of like this, you know, chaos control hotline. Childish had a record kick it, that he was trying to get synced for Madden. Yeah, yeah. And apparently the mix was just like not god awful. And you were like, move over, move over. I I got this shit. Yeah. And you just sent me the stems, save the day. So the funny thing about that is um when they did that record, I was so I started as Childish's DJ. I wasn't his engineer. And honestly, to be honest, like it's like the first time I'm actually saying it, but I would work a lot of my like my plays like that way. It's like I DJ, everybody probably, you know, every artist needs a DJ at some point, you know what I mean, for the road or what or whatever.

Um, so I ended up, you know, because I was already cool with those guys, you know, ended up being his DJ, but I'm like, man, I want to engineer, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm already trying to move away from that space in some type of way. So I'm like, man, I man, I'm I'm gonna end up engineering for him. So I went, this was like one of the sessions after we came off of a tour. I want to say it was like Aaron Ray's tour. Um, and which Aaron Ray is like crushing it, right? Incredible, incredible. His project, Hello Poison is incredible. Yeah, like it's one of those projects, like I really wish like I was a part of in some type of way. You know what I'm saying? And excellent. You know how you feel like you're like, oh my gosh, but no, he's incredible to work with too. Um, but like with Childish, man, yeah, I was I was I was doing that, and then we ended up going to the studio, and um it was him and Jason in the studio, and at this time, again, like I wasn't recording Childish, he was he he records himself. So the thing about childish is that irritates me, and I tell him all the time, um, well, he's well, he's got a new template, obviously, because I work with him now, but he records so hot, like everything vocals all the way. up. The vocals are so hot, and he just thinks it's just warmth, like this.

Let's crank it. Yeah, it's like this, like can I kick it? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's so hot, bro. And um, I'm watching these guys record this record super, super hot, not thinking anything about the record. They're just, we're just having fun. We done had some drinks, we're in the studio vibing. Fast forward, that's the song picked, you know. what I mean, to, you know, to for sync. And I remember how hot it was, and I was like, oh my God. I should have said something then and there. Yeah, because if vocals are recorded low, it's way easier to fix than if they're too hot, it's it's like impossible. I was gonna say, the non-technical, you know, I know. On my my my mind. Yeah, we're over here. You know what I'm saying? I'm with you. So that's like setting your you up for a very hard task. Yeah, like you like like you know, like Henry's saying, it's like you would rather them low, you know, not too low, you know. what I mean, at you know, at a decent level, so that it's not too much floor noise when you're you know, because when you mix, you mix up, you know. Um, and but you definitely don't want it like blazing, and then then he's saying that it's warm, but yeah, but yeah, we fixed it, man. That that's one of my favorite records, actually.

And it ended up making Madden. Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, did you use any like iZotope plugins, some like declipping or stuff like that? At the time, I didn't have any of that, bro. Like, I don't even know what I did to save it. Honestly, I probably I I got lucky because what was actually pushing the vocals super hard was like the plugins that he had on it, you know what I'm saying? But I'm looking at like a lunchbox he got. He's got like little Neve bay in the lunchbox and stuff like that. Lunchbox is like I'm not gonna get it. I'm not gonna get it. It's like mini hardware, yeah. Yeah, it's like mini hardware, sure, of course, of course, and then he's going into a Tube-Tech CO. Uh-huh, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know what you're saying. It's the blue one. Yeah, for sure. It's the blue one. Yeah, yeah. Um that's what most people call it, the blue one. The blue one, yeah, in the corner. Yeah, but um, yeah, it actually was plugins. so it was like an easy fix when I just took it out of that template that it was in. But yeah, yeah, kick it, man. Yeah, for sure. That's a recurring theme though. I want to I want to just go back to what you're saying on the podcast has definitely been like learning complimentary skills to kind of get your foot in the door for what you really want to do. A hundred percent. Time and time again, we've had guests saying, like, oh, well, you know, I wanted to do this, but I learned how to do this, and this person needed that.

So I kind of got in the door with that, which led to me doing what I really wanted to do. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a huge gem. Yeah, man. I I you know, I refer to them as like uh like a gateway drug. Uh it's probably like the worst way to say it, but it's like no, it's great. You know, you know what I mean? I completely know what you're saying. It's like the it's like the the the drug that you know it gets you in the door, get you in the door, you know what I'm saying? But um, you know, and yeah, they're like, oh, I like that. Like, yeah, what else you got? Yeah, yeah, exactly. You got any harder stuff? Try cocaine, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, hard, yeah. All that stuff, man. But but yeah, man, um, and for me, that was what DJing was, you know what I'm saying? Understanding certain things, like you obviously know when something's clipping, you know, when you're DJing, and I I started engineering fairly early, so um, yeah, it was an easy fix, man. I wish I had iZotope and all that and what yeah, I wish I had it, man. Yeah, now you do. Now I do. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, we were talking off camera, you work very closely with Summer Walker, you've engineered a ton of her, you know, records. Um, like talk to me about a relationship between an engineer and an artist, right?

Yeah, like how important is that that chemistry and that dynamic, right? I think above all, above above, you know, you being, you know, this incredible tech engineer, or if you just prefer to like use your ears, which you should do anyway, um, I think the relationship with the artist is the most important thing. Because in a lot of cases, you don't start off like just blazing hot knowing what you're doing. You know, a lot of people, you know, their entryway is through being with an artist as an engineer. Um, and you know, that artist has to trust that if they know that you, there's some skills that you don't have that you'll end up having them, you know, what I mean, as you continue to work with them. And that just comes from the relationship. I I feel like that just comes, you know, before uh before you start mixing them more, like you're getting everything right, or maybe remembering to, you know, save all their vocals and and things of that nature. So I mean, the relationship with the artist is definitely the most important thing, I think about, you know, in in terms of being like a tracking engineer or even mixed engineer, you know what I mean?

You can know everything about mixing and recording, all the technical things, but yeah, if that relationship's not there. It's not there, who you gonna do it for? It's not happening. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Like, who are you gonna attract? Yeah, so trust you. So, like, even speaking on like her, you know, relationship with you specifically, like, what do you think makes it successful for you two? You know what I mean? Like, are there things you can point to? yeah, for sure. Um, so uh with Summer, I think uh the the let me think, like with man, it's so much I could say about her, man. And first of all, I I'll start by saying this. Summer knows how to record herself. Like Summer went to school for recording. Like, but before she was signed, like she was, I think she was at like um, she was at, if I'm not mistaken, the Art Institute of Atlanta. Yeah. But um, she knew how to do everything. So it was extra important for me to know what I was doing and be able to bring something to the table where I'm like teaching her. And that was honestly my my approach.

It was like, you know, whether or not I I would, you know, end up being her engineer or not. I wanted to make sure I was adding value to what we were working on. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's what kind of like, you know, like our relationship started, you know, happening because she moves fast. Like she can, like, she has perfect pitch. Like, she's just the like the perfect artist. She she does notes intentionally, she knows what she's doing. So it's like, okay, how can I add to this with what I've learned over my years of doing, you know, whether it's like boy band or vocal training, you know, I mean, my favorite artist, you know, how can I bring that to the table? You know, of course, along with uh, you know, my man Sean Garrett and learning a lot from him before we before I even worked with her. Um, so yeah, what was your question again? Because I could talk about her. No, it's no, I think you answered it well. It's it's really about like adding value, right? Yeah. To make her trust you. But in my mind, like when you start working with someone, is it like a dicey thing of like you don't know what you should say or shouldn't, right? Because like artists are are you know human beings.

Yeah, they might take you know, you teaching things as a certain like you know, I'm just like looking at it as like an outsider of like, how do you know when to kind of how to push? Yeah, you know what I mean? so using you know summer as an example. Well, my approach is always like I don't do too much until I see the space to kind of like do what I really can, you know, do and do what I really can offer to the situation. You gotta see how the artists take it, yeah. At first, you know, some are more willing and like, oh oh you thank you for helping me out. Like, can do that more. Yep. Some are like, no, I'm good on that. I'm gonna try it this way. Yeah. And then you shut the hell up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like I, so I I I I give it in like I give it in doses. You know what I'm saying? Ooh. Nice pun. We're always here for a good pun. So, yeah, I, you know, I I give I give it in doses to to where to what my my knowledge, you know what I'm saying, of like sound or or recording process, any of those things. So with her, I think um it wasn't challenging, um, but I did meet her at a pivotal point in her life. Like, you know, she was like, she was, you know, she was carrying, you know what I mean?

Like I met her while she was carrying. And um as in pregnant? As in pregnant. Okay, I was like, just make sure we're speaking the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know, if she's carrying Hey, but don't mess around with something now. You know what I'm saying? Like, no. But but no, like all jokes aside, yeah, she was she was pregnant when I started working with her. And, you know, I'm I'm the oldest of five, so I got to see like my mom like carry like, you know, four children, obviously. You know, I can't see her carry myself besides pictures. But you know, I you you kind of know how to be, you know, like nurturing and take care of like, you know, I I knew how to take care of her from what I needed to do in terms of vocally, or okay, do you need to, you know, you need some water. Um, you know, I would run and go to Publix and like make sure like I have some fruit and things of that nature. You know what I mean? Like uh, we will always make sure she had what she needed. Um, you know what I mean? She's a very, very, very clean person.

You know what I'm saying? I have Clorox wipes right there to wipe off her headphones, like just to just to make sure that she feels comfortable. And I think that added, you know, that added to it too. You know what I mean? That's that's huge, man. Yeah. I mean, this is something that I loved about, you know, even meeting Henry was that like, I mean, you know, whether it's like providing smokes, if like people are big smokers, or like if they're drinkers, you have drink on deck, and like to your point, if they need different types of headphones or like a different, like lighting, even like what kind of mood do you like? That's those little things, man. And even like paying attention to like what they did before, like, especially if it's like a prominent artist, like like Summer has had success before, you know, working on Still Over with her, she said over it was a smash, like you know what I'm saying? Like her other projects, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, um, they're all like her fans love that. So for me, it was just like such a it was even more important to get it right and to make sure that I can add value, you know what I mean? So and to your point, I think like walking in there with a fucking perspective on who this artist is, right?

Like doing your fucking research, yeah. Like being able to reference. Why would you not look up who you work with? Yeah, why would you not listen to the records like I don't understand, but that's but that it seems like it's such an easy thing, but I swear that it's not as obvious. It's a people business for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. So, you know, most recently you engineered her vocals on I think Purple Heart on Kendrick's Kendrick's project, right? Yeah, yep. And so I just for the people out there, like I was kind of fascinated by like how many people contribute on a single record on a big project like that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, because what you engineered her vocals, but someone engineered his vocals, yeah, and then had to pass it along. It was crazy to just like look at the credit. Like, if you look up credits on any major artist's project, it's nuts. Yeah, like you look at Beyoncé's project, it's between eight and twenty-five people on one song. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. it's crazy. But so just want to get your like hot take on this.

How would you rank uh that project of Kendrick's in comparison to like his his discography? Um, let me see. My favorite Kendrick project is good kid Mad City. Same. Let's go. A hundred percent. Yes. Um I I literally had that same van in white when I was in high school. Um so that yeah, it was very special to me. Even like honestly, you know, working on this project, like it was very it was surreal. You know what I mean? It's like I remember I went and found that same picture I took when that was like when Instagram, I think, first started or something like that. And I got like a collage of like Good Kid Mad City in my van. I think it was I think I had a town of the country though. But anyway, Pretty close. so that's number one. Um it gets tough here, doesn't it? It might, you know what? Section 80. I I didn't catch on, I wasn't on Kendrick then.

Uh so I can't even count. Yeah, I'm old, sorry. You know, no, no, no, no. But I I think I I forgot what I was listening to around that time. I think it was more RB at that time. I wasn't like for me, like hip hop, like I had like my my mom wasn't playing there at first, so it was stuck in my mind that I couldn't listen to shit that I probably could have listened to because I was a teenager. You know what I mean? But I'm always worried. I'm like, songs are playing in the car on the radio and they're clean, but I'm like, nah, I'm turning it because my mom's in there. You know what I mean? Um, but um, I'd rank this project for me. I put it as number three in so it'd go good kid Mad City. Section 80 is of course like no, like I don't know where to put that. I'm not gonna put that in my list. You know what I'm saying? Because I just never really listened. I'd put to pimp a butterfly. I knew he was gonna butterfly too. How can you deny it? Like, hello, like Ali, Dr. Dre, you know what I'm saying?

Like a lot of like, you know, like Patronata, I think. You know what I'm saying? Like the people who are involved with that was just so massive. And I feel like it was one of those projects that you may have not understood right then and there, but years later, you appreciate it and put it in your top. And then I'd put, you know, I'd put this album third. Wow. And then damn is like a, you know, damn. is hard, too. Damn is incredible. Damn is like commercial. You know what I mean? Like it's commercial success. So I don't really, I don't really look at damn as like being in my list. So I'm not sure. And I think a lot of the criticism I think with Mr. Morale is what you said right there with the commercial success. I think Mr. Morale is one that we're gonna look back on in a year and realize it's it's really a piece of art. It's very well put together. I don't know if people we're we live we live in a playlist era. People want singles, people want radio smashes, bro. Yeah, and this is like uh it's a body, it's a work of art, and you know, and for me it's kind of in the middle of his discography as well. Yeah, but um, I think a lot of the criticism is is just not well founded.

Man, we're in we're in a time right now. Yeah we are. So, so you know, I I did want to get your take on like all right, you as a recording engineer, when you're in sessions with artists, right? You clearly, to your point, have some vocal experience, right? And and you know, we'll get into that in a minute. But like where's the line right between engineer and like vocal production? I'm crossing that line every time. Yeah. And it for me, and I say that because I think for so long, I would categorize categorize myself as just an engineer and not realize that the reason why these artists want me around is because I offer more to the situation every damn time. I can't relate to that anymore. You know what I mean? I know exactly what you do. Like I'm a producer. Yes. Like I'm a producer. I'm a vocal producer. I'm I'm able, you know, I can make, you know, beats as well because that's what producers do. They're able to oversee There's not just beat making, you know what I mean? So it's not just I'm an engineer.

My job is to hit record when they say hit record. We're thinking, how can we make this record as good as possible? Right. And if that includes saying, you know, maybe you could try it this way or you could do better than that. It's production. That's production. And that's let's not even get started with shit, chops in the record, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. If there's stems in Pro Tools or even a little suggestion. So, like for me, it's like I'm crossing that line all the time. And I think to be honest with you guys, it's like maybe about a couple months ago, I was like, I'm tripping. I'm not just a track engineer. I'm not just uh uh, you know, I'm not just a uh mixing engineer. No, I'm a producer. I'm a producer. Like I am a producer, and I would have to say that every day that week that I figured it out. I was like, no, no. So I'm crossing that line every time, bro. Like, cause I have to. That's what that's the value that I add in the room, is that I do know how to produce, you know? Yeah.

No, it's it's it's definitely important. I think like that's something we talked about, you know, to Henry's point about like him, you know, definitely feeling that shit is because yeah, like there are some people who are super technical and like fast and can, you know, be one step ahead of you or whatever, but they're not necessarily offering up. I mean, shit, I watched a video you posted about like you explaining to someone like what a harmony was and like why to do it this way and like how it's gonna then sound in the mix. Yeah, it's like you do you do all this, you do all this prepping all your life for however long you've been like interested in music, just to call yourself that one thing. Yeah, and then I know I've I had a lot of people early on, like around me tell me, like, you know, you have to do this one thing. Of course, it was support, you know what I mean? But when you get in a game, you you get this is the job you you get. It's like fuck that. Like, no, bro. I'm I'm I'm I'm way more than that. I got I've been on stages and you know, I done produced records. I done, you know, I'm man, yes, you know what I'm saying.

So and that's why I can't just record just anyone anymore, because I I really am putting like my heart into it. I can't just be a robot that says, oh, record now, punch in now. No, I'm like listening to the song. I'm thinking about how to make it better. And if people, you know, just want me for the the technical, just do what I tell you, right? I'm not as interested in that. Yeah, yeah. Like my whole thing has always been like I care about the sound. Like, I had to be honest, and I'm pretty sure we'll probably get more into this, but like, you know, I had early on, I have problems with like getting paid, of course. You know what I'm saying? It's like, because it's not even the fact that I'm just a nice guy, but I just care about making sure the record sounds incredible overall. And for me, maybe I did have hardship because that's I cared that much. But at the same time, it you know, it makes me who I am now. It's like that sticks with me now, and I'm able to implement, okay, this is how much I need for this. Or I have somebody else say, This is how much he needs for it.

You know what I mean? Yeah, so that's always good. Yeah, nah, for sure. Yeah, when I hear about people mixing a record in like 30, 45 minutes, I'm like, damn, like, that's cool. But it's like, I'm my, you know, I want to put my best into this. It's like my work, my name's gonna be on this, especially if you've got the time. Like, I'm gonna put the time into it. Even if I don't have the time, it's like I'm gonna put it into it just because I want it to be the best it can be. Yeah. And to whether that's a detriment or not. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, um, you know, when we worked on that, that Kendrick, you know, on that Kendrick verse, man, we was working on that for like a smooth three hours, just trying to figure out how can we make this like better, how can we add the value? Or even I remember like me and Summer sitting there being like, like, like we were playing this super cool for a good minute, you know, but we were like, man, this is going on. Kendrick's out. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is not nothing to just, you know, because we work like that. We'll just work and work and work. I'm like, oh, get it done. So however she feels about it, is how she feel about it.

However, I feel about it, whether I'm in a car, like, oh yeah, whoo. I just did this, this, you know, I just cut this record on this big, I know this is gonna go crazy. You know what I mean? Yeah, um, you know, I I think regardless, man, it, you know, that time you put into it, when you got that time, like you do it. And then sometimes it's gonna be like, you know, maybe gotta do something in 30 minutes. But yeah. So did Sean Garrett write that verse for her? Uh-uh. No, no, no. Uh so Sean, he did uh, he did uh a few records on the Still Over It project that dropped last November. Okay, yeah. So tell the people about your relationship with Sean. It sounds like pretty important to like what you're doing now and how you view things. Like tell tell them like what is the nature of your relationship, what have you learned from him? Kind of like how have you grown as a creative? Yeah. Yeah. No. So Sean, I mean, above all, like, that's that's for sure my brother. And I know it's my brother. He's my he's my he's my brother because he doesn't treat me like I'm younger than him.

And that's always been like an issue I've had with like maybe my peers that are like a a year older than me or like, you know, like maybe even older guys. Like everybody just wants to son you everybody, and they're so in, they're just so insecure. Like, that's such an insecurity. It's like, wow, I'm that big right now. Like, I'm that big in this space that we're in that you have to let like you're gonna let come out of your mouth. Like the thing you're gonna let come out of your mouth is, yo, yeah, this my this is my uh my my little man, or this my this my young boy, or this is my mentee. Like, what are you talking about? I never asked you to be my mentor. Yeah, you know what I mean? And Sean never did that. You know what I mean? So that's the number one thing I respected him, respected him for. Um, in terms of like working relationship, I actually met Sean. Which is crazy because arguably he could have sonned the fuck out of you. Right. He's Sean Garrett. I'm just saying, he's Sean Garrett. Yeah, he could have been like, this is my little homie. Bro, and he'll tell you he's Sean Garrett. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Um that that's beautiful. Yeah, man. Like, you know, um, I I actually met him uh while we were working on the uh, or still over it was being put together. Okay. Um it was like a camp that was going on. And um, it was my first time working with him. I got called last minute. Shout out my man Mo at LVRN. Um he gives me a call, and it actually happened because of Clubhouse. This is when Clubhouse was going crazy. Oh wow. So I already, I was a staff engineer at uh LVRN for like uh two and a half years. Um but working with Childish, I ended up having to go on the road and you know what I mean, and started, you know, recording him, obviously. Um, so the relationship, of course, it it was still there. I just didn't go to the studio, and then eventually that studio, excuse me, they they moved locations. You know what I mean? Um, but I say all that to say, like, man, I met Sean there. Um, and oh no, hold on. No, Mo.

Mo. Mo, Mo is important. Um, so on Clubhouse, it was like we had it was some type of room we had for like LVRN. And even though LVRN, like LVRN is like, to me, it's like, it's like it's small, but it's so big because, you know, of course, people have different roles. Like, I'm a staff engineer. I would never probably not run into anybody in marketing. Maybe they don't come to the studio, maybe they work out in LA. Then they got two different, you know, they got different spaces. So Mo is one of those people that I just never really ran into, connected on there, and the next day, he's just like, he hits me. He's like, yo, they need an engineer, you know what I'm saying? Over over there uh for summer. So I'm like, okay, cool. to be honest with you, I almost was like, I can't do it because I had bad anxiety, or at the time I had really, really bad anxiety. And I would hate being in new sessions because I'd be in the session and like my my whole hand would start shaking. And I never liked that feeling.

I would run away from that feeling. So during the pandemic, I missed out on a lot of opportunities because I just was running away from that that that feeling. Like working with Meek Mill, possibly becoming like one of his engineers and a whole bunch of other stuff. Like, um, and this was the time I was like, I'm not gonna do that. So I went up there, um, started working, you know, setting up my stuff, and then Sean comes around. I see some familiar faces, but Sean comes around, never worked with Sean. He's like real cool, like, man, man, how you doing, man? I'm like, man, I'm good, man. You know, I'm just giving him my my natural energy. And we made each other feel real comfortable, and we just get right to it. Like right to it, like cutting. And I come from, you know, I was assistant engineer for for Nudie's engineer. And you know, that's like how I was telling you, like, you know, those guys, like they're rappers, like they punch in, punch in, punch in. Sean is doing the punch in method, but with vocals. And I was just like, oh no, this is everything. Like, I was like, That's crazy. I'm like, this is no, this is too easy. Because like my favorite artist, one of my favorite artists of all time is like T-Pain.

So a lot of the structure of T-Pain's vocals is something I studied like early on, like when I was like 12 and started engineering. And that structure, it reminded me, Sean's structure of how he was asking for it to be. It reminded me of how I'm studying T Pain's structure. And even when I recorded my own vocals, you know what I mean? So it made sense. It made sense to me. And we just clicked, and then after that, I'll never forget, man. Um Justice from LVRN, Summer's AR. Uh it's like we're the only ones left in the house. And I remember Sean was like, he looked at him, he said, he's fire. He's dope. And I'm playing it cool. I'm like, you know, I always play it cool. But he looked at him again, he's like, nah, he's dope. He's like, you come back here tomorrow? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm there for like another two days. By the time Christmas come around, I end up, you know, going to his studio and and and recording everything he needs. And then we link back up to work on Summer's project. So and then are these are these paid opportunities, or is this something you just believed in and it worked out?

Because I think that could be beneficial for yeah. To be honest, no, it wasn't paid at first. That's a gem. I think that's a gem. I didn't know how I didn't even understand. Like, of course, like I understand a lot more now, but at that time, I was just doing it because again, like I'm in love with the sound. I'm I'm trying to trying to figure it out myself. You know what I mean? I knew that eventually, of course, I'd be getting paid, but you know, once I got over to, you know, to his studio, that's when I started, you know, we started figuring out a situation that worked for the both of us. Um, yeah, because I think if you come out the gate asking for an hourly rate like that, you probably don't develop that same relationship. Yeah, because it's like, bro, It's like something that's understood in in that space. You know what I mean? I mean, in music, you know what I mean? Especially when you're working with like labels and and systems, like systems uh run on money. So it's like, bro, you don't need to tell this person that you're gonna get paid. Sometimes you just need to send the invoice. And they're not the person to send the invoice to. Yeah, like the biggest gem is just sending the invoice. Send an invoice, like find out

who to send it to, yeah, and then just put a dollar on it. Like, you asking the writer how you know, you asking the writer, okay, I need this much amount. But they're bro, they have a system themselves. Like there's somebody who takes care of all this stuff. Yeah, figure out who that is. Ask for that. Yeah, I mean, I think the coolest part, honestly, is that like, you know, mental health is something we've talked about several times on here. You know, Marco Plus talked about it with like losing a couple friends to suicide, and he was in a very you know, fucked up headspace. You know, the artist East Rich that you know Henry worked really closely with and I've worked closely with. He talked about his brother committing suicide and like how that impacted his mental health and shit. And like I think that like overcoming that shit is almost like the most, you know, of course, the like doing it on the just like love and you know, figuring out the business, you know, on the back end is is a gem. But I think like no matter what you're going through, like if you can find the strength in you to overcome that like anxiety that you might be dealing with, you know, if you're depressed and you don't want to get out of bed type shit. No, you know, because I that might have like, did that, did you feel like a turning point?

Yeah, for sure, man. I I I remember I had um, and I wish I can, I might have the video still, but um, I was doing a lot of working out around that time, man. And um, I just wanted to feel better, like uh let's just feel better. And we had nothing but time during the quarantine, like beginning of the pandemic, like man, you just you you're not doing anything. So I I feel like um in my mind, I remember saying in the video, I said, if you're uncomfortable, something must be right. And I just like with that mentality, I just stuck, like that's with me until this day. I'm like, if I'm in an uncomfortable position, that means that something's getting ready to happen, or I'm about to enter into another position that might be comfortable for a little bit, and then it's gonna get uncomfortable again. And you have that decision whether or not to sit in that comfort. You sit in that comfort, you might be good, but you will never know what else is there because you never put yourself in that uncomfortable situation. The biggest turning points and the biggest opportunities are never comfortable.

Yeah, ever. Yeah, like we struggle with that to this day, you know what I mean? Like, and like I definitely do, you know. Yeah, I mean, also the definitely do, you know. Also, the best results come from uncomfortable conversations too. Some people are scared to have even those money conversations, bruh. True. And that and I'm bro, I am not, I am, I strive for perfection, but I'm no by no means perfect. You know what I mean? And I I tell that to like, you know, I'll never, you know, I don't call them mentees, but like, you know, the people that I know, the the other engineers that I know, it's like, man, you know how long it took me to have a conversation about money? Cause I just was like, like I had to be struggling. Like that's when I started, you know, you know, asking about, okay, uh, what do I need to do? Yeah. And then you're upset. I get upset with myself because I'm like, damn, I could have asked that a couple months ago. Right. But I'm sitting in this situation, starving, acting like they want me to starve when closed mouths don't get fed. Yeah, you know, that's like I forgot the saying, but that's the saying that I'm thinking of just like it's not even that people have these like super malicious intent. No, about not paying you or not bringing it up on their end.

Most of the time it's you. Yeah. Definitely. True. I get anxiety about like missing out on work. Like, oh, if I ask for too much money What do they call that? Not gonna be able to uh FOMO, fear of missing out, kinda, yeah. Maybe I mean because we've had a few situations where like he did want to maybe float a certain number, yeah, just to make sure we fucking lock it in. Of course, me as the manager. Like, no, we're asking for more. Right. Nah, fuck that shit. Right. And then it was a it was a non-issue. And they're fine with it. It was completely fine. But that's why it's the two of y'all because still, but I understand where he's coming from and like you know, the uncomfortability that surrounds like some of these money conversations. Yeah, because you're creative at the end of the day, man. Like, we don't want to I don't I don't like getting into. Yeah. If we had no bills, no student loans, no responsibilities at all, you would be right there. Yes, you know what I mean, like right next to your equipment. I would I would do it all the time. I I just uh I've been um in the studio um with like you know, I've I've had the pleasure to be around like uh Jermaine Dupree and like Brian Michael Cox, who actually was like like one of my favorite producers. Shout out BMC.

yeah. Incredible. And um, you know, and and he doesn't even know that. You know what I'm saying? But we're just we're just doing, we're just working. But I he's one of my favorite producers because I used to love, love, love day 26. Um, and making the band is like one of my foundation, like that's my foundation, like as anything, you know what I mean? I'm already known, bro. And I'm out there with you. You know what I mean? And I remember like I remember B Cox being in the studio with them and saying, I'll never forget he said it to them. He was like, if I had no responsibilities, I'd be on that couch. Matter of fact, I'd be on that couch regardless. You know what I'm saying? So that mindset is like something that just lives on with me. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. So speaking of, you know, kind of the day 26 and like you know, boy band era. Yeah, what do the letters PHP mean to you? Private house party. Private house party. I was bumping out on the way over here, man. That's incredible. You have zero monthly listeners. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on Spotify. And you have zero?

Yeah, you have zero monthly listeners. Well, I guess now you have one. If you listen to it, you should have one. Now you have one. Yeah. Now you have one. You didn't even know. Damn. I thought it was so you were in a boy band called The Famous Boys. Yeah. It has two Z's. Why does it have two Zs? Because boys B-O-Y-S was taken. Was already taken. So what about B-O-Y-Z with one Z? Already taken. Like why two Z's? That was taken too, yeah. Because I was like, okay, the one Z would be like still lame and whatever. Yeah, like we we we came together like D A, of course. Yeah, we was a part of like, yeah, of course, right? And then we make it like look like one word. But um yeah, we oh God. We form we formed together like around that time period where it was like this boy is like getaway boys and um you know shop boys, and yeah, and then you had um, you know, you had um um what's what's Schooley in there, man. I'm tripping, I'm tripping. What's their name? Rich kids, rich kids, and um, it was everything boys, and then the crank that era, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, well, yeah we had Charlamagne tha God on the uh on the podcast.

And he was talking about former rich kid. Yeah, he was talking about like the crank that or or and then fireman was talking about the crank that uh Batman shit, pop it off boys. That was the other Batman, that was Pop It Off Boys. So that's the same, yeah. Pop it off. Yeah, I got some East Side Legends too that made some crazy crank that records too. Yeah. Yeah. So like But Soulja Boy did it first. Yeah, yeah. A hundred percent. So it was like, you know, those those groups were kind of what like who influenced the like boy band for you guys? You know what I mean? Like, you know, who you guys looking at? Man, we was just in middle school, man. Like, just I mean, we was just dancing, you know, everybody was making videos for MySpace and stuff like that. So um, I I don't I can't remember who influenced us. It had to be like Boys to Men or like No, it had to man. It had to be like I mean, I'm trying to think about who man, that was such a long time ago. But I I I can't remember the exact group. There's some more boys.

Backstreet boys, you know what I'm saying? Okay, let me ask you this. From that era then, because I mean you were doing that for like five years at least, I think, from what I Man. Was maybe like five, six years. Yeah, definitely. Like, I my freshman year of college is when like we broke up. I can't believe you were still in the boy band freshman year of college. Yeah, on the lowest. Did you get like did you get made fun of at more house? It was, yeah, it was a good It was a good thing. Wow. Bro, what? We was popping, man. We was in like a sexy young dose. Yeah, bro. Still sexy, but you know what I mean? It's sexy. So, but yeah, so like did that era teach you much about like the recording process and like sound and shit? that's crazy, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's crazy because now that I think about it, everything we did was in-house. So I was like, I'm gonna learn how to record. I was recording on, I was recording and making beats on FL Studio at the time. Um, we had like a Radio Shack mic, you know, rest in peace, a Radio Shack. Um there's a Radio Shack in LA, like that's like the last one or something.

Yeah, I think it's on um it's somewhere around like Fairfax, but like I love just going to look at it because I'm like, damn man, this is crazy. But anyway, yeah, we were doing everything in house. So um, you know, I had to learn how to record. I was just, you know, I just started recording. Um, and and then of course we needed some beats, but we also was on like soundclick and shit like that around that time. Soundclick was huge popping, yeah. Johnny Giuliano vibe, yeah, vibe cartel, uh superstar. O. yeah, And those guys. That's Henry's homie. Man, he's a goat. I love O. He is a goat. I was always showing love, to Henry. You see him, man. Next time you see him, just tell him he's a goat. I will. I will. But um say Dose Diaz says you're the goat. Yeah, man, he doesn't know me, but it's just just tell him he's a goat. Oh, he will. Yeah, he will. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's he's incredible. But um, but yeah, man, like so like so. Just having to do everything, having to do everything ourselves, like is is what sparked my interest. And then the other thing was that, you know, at that age, you know, you're just trying to get into whatever.

Like a lot of my friends were playing basketball. I played basketball and I sucked, you know. Um fair enough. You know what I'm saying? But boy could you dance. But boy, could I dance? Boy, could you sing. But I did, I did know I fouled. If you need me to foul somebody, I'll foul somebody. You seem like a good fouler. So they hate me. So, how do you go from this boy band group to like one of the hottest DJs in the AUC, like in the Atlanta, like, you know, campus? So um, man, I guess that was like the turning point when I was a freshman um in college. Everybody kind of started going their different way. You know what I mean? Like, you know, one. Yeah, one went to the, you know, one went to the military. Other guys, you know, we started working because we're trying to make some money. And we did a lot of big things. Like we like I opened up for like Key Sweat, did a tour. Oh, wow. Yeah, you know, we dropped, you know, a project at the PHP project. Um, like we did a lot of dope stuff, man.

Um, did a lot of stuff for like the the um uh for like Henry County, your county. My county. Um but yeah, we did a lot of like like big stuff, you know, like was really close with ambassador Andrew Young and did a lot of community work. But you know, fast forward, you know, to when we got to college, we started kind of like separating. And um, you know, I just wanted to do something else. I was recording in my in my dorm. Um, but my uncle, shout out to my uncle Craig. He had uh he had got me like this DJ board um because my my dad was a DJ. Um my dad passed when I was 18. So right before I went to college. Oh wow. So like me and my uncles, you know, like we got rather close around that time. He would tell me things. Like he wasn't like the dad who had like um, you know, like technique, you know, turn turntables around and like old collections. He gave a lot of that stuff up when I actually was born. But he was a DJ back in Brooklyn, and he would tell me stories, but of course, like being around my uncles, they'd tell me even more stories.

And then before I went to college, you know, my uncle he gave me like this little Numark board, like you know, iDJ3. And I'm like, man, oh bet. I'm gonna take it. I don't know what to do with it. But I started learning virtual DJ. Shout out virtual DJ shout out virtual DJ, man. I when I was at at school at Morehouse, the opportunity to DJ came up. We used to have this thing called Hunt Wednesdays, and the DJ was like missing. Um, by this time, you know, everybody knows, you know, they not everybody knows who I am, but like they know you got that Numark, you know. You know what I mean? They know I got that Numark, they know I'm recording. No, they knew him from the famous boys because of the two Zs. Oh, yeah. How can we forget this guy? Yeah, that and that that too. And it was just like, you know, there was a DJ was that was missing. My man, I remember my man Nello, man. He was like, man. Well, hold on. Did they ever find this DJ? The way you're saying he was okay. No, he never showed up. He never showed up. No, but like, did he like go missing? I don't even know who it was. You know, just the way you're saying, like, he went missing. I'm like, is he alright? Yeah. Did we ever find this guy? I have a feeling I know which DJ it is. Oh, wow.

it might have been like DJ Tone. I feel like it was DJ Tone. DJ Tone, he he DJs for black. Okay, so we found him. Yeah, we found DJ. Tone. We found DJ Tone. Oh, thank God. He's okay. Yes, yes, yes. I was worried. So they're like, Yeah, you know, uh, yeah, Day-Date, you know, they didn't know me as Dose. I didn't have it wasn't Dose yet. They're like, Yeah, man, Day-Date got stuff in his in his dorm room. So we all run down and boom, take it, and you know, we we start pulling stuff, and I'm really good at, you know, of course, like you know, putting together cables and fit configuring something to make some type of sound. And I did that, man. Did You wrap them in really good in the with the circles, yeah. But I'd be over that, man. I ain't gonna lie. I don't hate that too. They always make you do that. But yeah, I know that we not supposed to set up. There's a very specific way you gotta wrap the cables. I just set up the podcast from all the like cables you had wrapped up because we had moved the cables. They were, like, perfectly wrapped no, yeah, they were. I mean okay, from my perspective, but not like a studio wants you to do that. I fucking just like bunch them up and throw them into the side, like you know, man.

I would not be a good intern. I go halfway right, yeah, halfway right. Uh just enough so that you don't mess it up, like so that it works the next time. It doesn't take time to untangle them, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all. So, yeah, that was the beginning of that, man. And then, you know, I'm like, oh, I want to take this DJ and stuff seriously. You know what I mean? Because that event went well, or what? I think it just was. you know what I mean? Like, how did you go from just having the board in your dorm to like? Yeah, that went well. And I was like, you know, I was like, I can actually do this. You know what I'm saying? Like, it'd be cool to kind of just start DJing. Okay. Um, you know, I I was, you know, my class, nobody was DJing at that time. Um, in my class, and and you know, they needed somebody to do the parties, like the house parties. Yeah, so you kind of found you saw an opportunity then. I just I just went for it, man. I started, you know, I had somebody, excuse me. I had somebody um, you know, draft up like uh two, like two logos. One was uh DJ Day Day, and the other one was DJ Dos Diaz. Now which means two days, which means two days.

Yeah, you know what I mean? And my my man, my man Jean Michael, shout out to Jean Michael. He came up with that. He's um he's uh he's Haitian, and I think, but I think his his, I want to say uh somebody in his family's like Dominican. Okay, I remember he came in my dorm one day. He was like, Yo, you know what you should change your name to? And I'm like, what? He's like, Dos Diaz. I'm like, I'm in Spanish 101. So you so you knew what it meant, huh? Nah, no. Oh wow, you knew Dos. Yeah, I knew Dos. I'm like he forgot Diaz. Two what? I started looking it up. I'm like, two gods? No, that's Diaz. Okay. He's like, man, yeah, two days. He's kinda cool, though. He's a rapper, yeah. He yeah, that's fire. Two gods. That's kind of hard. Some people pronounce it wrong. I just let him do it. That's fine. Um, but yeah, like he's a rapper, so you know, you know how you rap, you know, rappers like you. Like me. Yeah, you know what I mean? Totally, totally. Yeah, yeah, totally. And I just stuck with it, man. And I just, man, I just started. So was Day Day, was that like a West Indies, West Indies nickname? Like, did that have to do with like that?

So, nah. So my dad is uh my dad's side of the family is uh is from Barbados. Yeah. Um, but you everybody would call me Day Day because I'm I'm I'm David Jr. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? So they needed to, yeah, he was Dave. Yeah, I didn't know if it was some yeah, so they just needed they needed to differentiate you from from him. Yeah, exactly. Okay, gotcha. So from Dave to Day Day to Dos Diaz. Exactly. So, you know, speaking of Deshaun again, you know, he mentioned that as you started gaining, you know, traction as a DJ on campus and like playing these parties and shit. I mean, he would literally like come to you with childish records to help try and like break them a little bit, like in this, you know, in the scene. Yeah, like how important do you think DJs are to an artist's rollout and like breaking a record from like when you started and then compared to today? Do you still think it holds like the same weight? Like what's your viewpoint? DJs are are and will be like the most important to me. And I I I truly mean that because the ear of a DJ, it's is it is the it is the A&R ear, it is the engineer ear, it is in in some ways the artist's ear.

I feel like you're the taste maker. It's the taste maker, man. It's you know what I mean? Like, and and I think that you know DJs don't get enough love for that, which is super weird, but yeah, that it'll always be that way. It'll always be that way. Yeah, I mean, Redd Push, you know, who manages Money Moo and he's an AR at uh Venice now. Red cares about DJs for sure. Oh, they'll be he's like DJs to your point, will always be at the crux of like knowing what's hot, influencing what's hot, yeah, like being like such a critical part of and I was telling him that I think a lot of artists sleep on it because they see the internet and they know that like the internet has its own world, right? But the DJ culture is very much still like in real life, like it's at the clubs, it's at the parties, it's at the festivals, it's at the festivals, yeah. It's everywhere, man. The DJ and the engineer are the most important people to me. You know what I mean? It's just like you know, they we we play so many different roles outside of just those roles, you know what I'm saying? Like we were talking about earlier, like it's the gateway drug to so much other things, and and you even think about it like this like a lot of DJs.

Think about a lot of the DJs, think about who they are now. Like Khaled is an incredible DJ, bro. We just talked about Khaled earlier. Yeah, his rollout for God did has just been like the most fun you know what I mean thing I've ever seen. And and he's bro, He's an icon. Khaled, I'm pretty sure Khaled has like a a deal as an artist, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Hello. hello, he's a DJ. Um dog, Jimmy Iovine is what he started off as an engineer. You know what I'm saying? So it's like that ear, man, that DJs and engineers have it's like it's unmatched to me. So it's it's the most important. So, like for you who kind of has you know has your hands still, you know. We just talked about off camera you were DJing with you know Mark B as part of like y'all are you know, or like you know, he's working on starting this collective with you, right? Of like DJs, yeah. You know, you're obviously a producer, you're obviously an engineer. Like, how's your time spent right now? You know what I mean? Like between the three, I guess, like crafts.

Ah man, it's like one of it's like one of them has my attention majority of the day, and then it's split off into other ways, but that majority can change, yeah. Yeah, it changes, or at least I want it to change, you know what I mean? Like I want to be able to, like, my time management is not, I'm I'm a very I'm very schedule oriented, but I do not designate time properly always. You know what I mean? Um, I want to have more time, or I'm going to have more time to produce. And um, you know, so what I do is I kind of like, I'll probably go take trips, you know what I mean? I'll go out to LA and work just as a producer. You know what I'm saying? Like, not engineering anything, maybe do some mixes on on the side, you know, um, that I gotta finish. But I'm I'm you know, I'm constantly trying to show love to all of my talents. Like I'm a firm believer in exercising all your talents. And I try to do that for sure. So engineering, okay, cool.

That's at the forefront right now. Which, you know, I'm not mad at things that take like, you know, that position. Because at one point it was DJing. In college, it was DJing. I wasn't doing a lot of engineering. Um, but okay, engineering's at the forefront. Okay, let's figure out a way, okay. Producing, all right. Let me go out here to the West Coast, or let me go and into these sessions as a producer so I can challenge myself and make sure that I'm on top of my shit. As a DJ, okay, cool. Pair up with my man Mark B, or we let's do this, let's do this, let's put together this party so that we can continue to have fun, but also exercise that talent. So, you know, I'm it's I'm a work in progress. You know, my time, you know, is it's it's not always divided in a way that I would want it to be, but as long as I'm moving, you know, I know that in some type of way everything is gonna connect. Just like with with people like Childish or anybody that I've DJ'd for, you know what I mean? Like that conversation or the action of actually DJing for somebody has literally led me into a room at in another position.

Yeah. And I don't think anyone ever actually knows. There's no perfect way to designate your time. No one no one really knows a hundred percent. Yeah, dog. Like I hate the club now. Like I don't want to be a club DJ. I stopped that after quarantine. First, it was like I don't want to be around people because I don't want nobody touching me. You know, like the COVID thing was like crazy, you know. I mean, it's still going on, but it's like yeah, now we got the monkey pox now. Yeah, it's like, man, I don't want to be in that environment. And then it's a lot of politics that go down in there. So it's like, yeah, I think in life, you just naturally make those shifts shifts. You know what I'm saying? Like, I I I love DJing so much, so so much. And I still do, but the position as a club DJ just wasn't fitting for me. So I made the decision to sit up under somebody and assist for them as an engineer, you know, and humble myself. No matter how much I knew or how much I thought I knew, I knew I had to make a pivot, you know. Yeah. But see, what I think is cool is that like even though you might not be, you know, quote unquote the best at like dedicating perfect amounts of time to all three of your crafts, right? The the fact that you said like exercising your talents though, and like, you know, it sounds like you're not gonna neglect one for too long.

Nope. So like if you felt like you haven't DJ'd in a bit, you're gonna fucking take a gig or like figure out a way to go DJ some shit to make sure you're like staying on top of your game, like with you know, if you haven't produced in a bit, you'll make some time. That's what it is now, bro. I'm leaving like tomorrow. I'm I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go out of LA and I'm gonna produce. I'm going to produce because I haven't been given it enough time. And I can't just sit up here and say I'm a producer. Sure, vocal production, it happens, you know, uh, you know, all the time, but I need to make some beats. You know what I mean? Let me hold myself accountable and let me do what I said I'm gonna do. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Absolutely love it. Um, so you know, something we talked about a little bit is you know, you mentioned like luck, I think at some point in the conversation. Like, how much do you think talent, hard work, and luck? I I always talk about those being as like the three things that like go into being successful in this music game. Once again, I don't know your perspective, but like I think the talent has to be there. You gotta fucking work hard.

Obviously, it sounds like you are definitely one who's no stranger to putting in the fucking work. But then there has to be these like bits of luck that like you know, once again, whether you're setting yourself up to be lucky, I think that's like a whole other conversation. Yeah, but like how how do you feel those three things like have played into your um story? You know what I mean? Man, Ben, you just you're in my head too much. You just gotta just squirming. You'll fall back, man. I get it. I'm gonna chill after that. You spent too many bars, bro. Um man. it's a bar heavy episode. It's a bar heavy, bro. Um dog, I feel like for a long time I was focused on working hard. And I feel like I took, you know, uh a lot of a lot of that that idea, I feel like I took it from my dad. You know what I'm saying? Like my dad worked extremely, extremely hard. Um, and he did, we didn't do the same thing, you know, career-wise. Um, but you know, I was down on the south side for for for a minute, you know what I mean?

And he would literally travel from here and then up 75 up 85. Um, you know, and to, you know, to dig even a little deeper, I did the same thing. Now my dad, he actually passed on 75, 85. You know what I mean? Yeah. In a car crash or what? Oh my god. Yeah, but he was, you know, they he was gone. Um, like I think he, you know, like he had a heart attack beforehand, so he didn't have impact. Yeah, you know what I mean? But he worked for this, uh, yeah, yeah, rest in peace, man. But it's so much that I learned from that. Like, um, he worked for this company named NCR. Oh, I know it. You know, NCR. Yeah, yeah. And NCR at the time, they were only in South Carolina. Really? They're fucking like the biggest, they're like one of the biggest, like financial payments and shit, like whatever. Bro, as you drive up 75, what do I see every day? NCR building now. It's an NCR building. Yeah.

And I think about that all the time about the trips he would make. Yeah. And it's something about that NCR building being downtown where I'm like, maybe I'm working harder than I am smarter. The location switched, you know what I'm saying? It's closer, right? And maybe that's a sign for me to think of ways to work in a smarter way in terms of my career. Because I don't want to work hard or work as hard as I'm working. I know you know, we're all gonna have to work pretty hard to get where we're at. Yeah. But also it's like it's a balance. Like, when are we gonna start working smarter? So that's how I'm thinking now. It's like, yeah, we're talented. Like the talent's gonna be there, but of course we know that the talent's like what percent? Like shit, 20% or some shit. Maybe that. That that was my question to you. I don't know.

It's like it's so it's 15, 20%, maybe. You know what I'm saying? And the rest is like, who you know, right? Or your connections, or like how you're s you know, you're speaking about like, you know, being in lucky situation, like no having more lucky situations or placing yourself in those positions. Because the there are incredible artists that we know that don't have the opportunities that we have or aren't doing, you know, podcasts or aren't, you know, are working for this label or working with this artist or this writer. Um, and they're incredible. They're probably better than all three of us, but we'll never know. Because it's like they focused on working too hard on the talent portion, which is a given. It's like you like my mom told me, man, I wanted to go to Art Institute of Atlanta after high school. That was like my number one. I didn't even, you know, I wasn't thinking about, I was thinking about college, but it was like one of those things like your parents want you to, you know, to do. So I did it because my dad was talking about it before he uh passed.

And my mom did he go to Morehouse? Mm mm. Okay. No, no, he's from so my parents from Brooklyn. Okay, I guess. Yeah, so yeah. So they was like, yeah, he was doing like uh IT and stuff like that. Okay, cool. Um, but um, but yeah, my mom was like, yo, why would you why would you go to school for something that that's like in you? Like like you're talented already. You know what I'm saying? And and she's like, you know, you already know how to do that. Go to school for like business or something like that, you know, and that thought process, I was just like, man, like she's super right, man. Like, let me let me put my energy into something that I don't know that can help me out with working, you know, smarter than harder. So that's where I'm at now. I'm I'm trying to make sure I'm working smarter, you know, and not just working hard, because shit, we're all tired, you know what I'm saying? Like, does that involve any type of like I don't it maybe not exactly like a meditation, but some type of like, you know, designating some time to really just sit back and zoom out and think? Yeah, um, I think I'm naturally a person who likes to kind of like take their time, like you know, and and and like just be you know alone enough to like clear my head because I it's a lot that's always going on in my head, um, and I I'll stress myself out.

Yeah, um it's no specific like meditation, which but I'm I'm willing to like look into it. I'm still man, I'm I'm a work in progress, man. Like I'm still figuring it out. I'm trying to get some more sleep. I'm trying to make sure I focus in and hone in on my health, you know, more because I know those things have to do with it, you know. You being able to work, you know, smarter, physically, you know, you physically feeling good, you know. So yeah, I found meditation yeah, two or three years ago, and it's it's definitely like along those lines of just literally think about fucking nothing for a second. Just think about nothing. Oh, I can't meditate. Yeah, my brain is way too fucking crazy. And you might be the prime candidate Oh, I'm sure I am. you know what I mean? But I used to I went to a Catholic high school. What's your birthday? I'm February 17th. I'm an Aquarius. And what's your birthday? Just late December Capricorn. Okay, cool. I just like to ask that question. I don't really know shit about it. I was like, but everybody always like, you know, hey, what's your you must be, you know. I'm a rising Virgo moon.

Yeah, facts, facts, facts. But anyway, but what you were saying? No, I was just gonna say, like, as far as you know, you mentioned going to school and kind of focusing on something outside of just like the art or whatever. I think you studied marketing and and like business at Morehouse, right? Yep. Um, so how much do you think like your ability to market yourself and brand yourself has contributed to your success story? I think it has everything to do with it. Wow. Everything to do with it. I think the the perception, how people perceive me has everything to do with it before they even hear what I've done. When it's something that I've noticed, right? Like if I post something or if I'm working on something, most people, not that they don't understand or know what engineering is, most people think I produced the record. Right? Am I gonna tell them it's a slick fucking marketing technique? You know what I'm saying? Am I gonna be like, tell everybody if they ask, sure.

Sure. You don't ask. If you don't ask, I can't tell you. Yeah. So it's like the perception, you know what I mean? So it's like I I learned, especially being there uh at Morehouse, uh, honestly, more outside of it, I learned like perception is everything, right? Of course, you're going to post the Mr. Morrell cover. You know, boom, boom. Like, you know what I mean? And of course, you know, I had I played a part in it, yeah. But for the the the you know, the regular consumer, you know, or the the the usual consumer, you know, they think that I was like in the studio with Kendrick. Like that's not how things really be working all the time now. You know what I mean? that's the only reason we got you on the fucking podcast. Ah, man. Shit. Well, I was in the studio with him. Yeah, yeah. But no, you know what I mean? But it's like of course during my meditation. Yeah, during my meditation. Yeah. But um, you know, of course, like if somebody asked me, I'll go in depth and explain how it happened. But but most people they don't have, they don't ask, you know, they don't ask because most people, you know, they just I don't know, they're like, they just don't care enough. Or they only like to see surface level shit.

Yeah. So it's like feeding into that has ever like my like marketing is extremely important, you know, uh to me for sure. And even when I was in school, I even realized I had this moment where I was like, man, wait, you can't really teach somebody how to market, you just kind of just do it. You know what I mean? Or you don't really teach somebody how to do business, you gotta do business. You know what I mean? That's false. You think so? I do. Hmm. I mean, you clearly learn marketing. Do you think you had it in you before? Yeah, you do. Oh, really? See, I think it's definitely a a taught, I think it can be a taught skill. But you're you're right. It it can be, I feel like there are certain like things within like business that you like the fundamentals that you have to learn. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know, whether it's you know, assets or liabilities or some shit. Sure. You know what I'm saying? Like, but I think like so you think a lot of it's intuitive and like nature based? Bro, think about like uh somebody who's teaching you, right?

Yeah, what what are they teaching you based off of? I mean, probably not that much experience in comparison, or they're teaching you off of experience, yeah, or super experienced. So it's like they had to go get the experience, and so do you. That's why I think what you can't teach, you can't teach someone like how valuable it is and what how it really and how it means. That's a better way to say it. Yeah, you can tell someone like post at this time and it will get more views, but you can't like emphasize, you gotta have inside of you like the understanding of what it means and what it's doing at a deep level, or the trial and error, you know what I'm saying? Like to know, like I know what times work for me on Instagram, you know what I'm saying? It might not work for the next person. But so let me ask you this. So, like when it comes to like engineering, let's take, let's take mixed engineering, right? Yeah, how much of that is like nature by ear, yeah, versus technical learning. Yeah, it's both. And see that, and so I think a lot of skills in general, I think a lot of people are natural born with things. Yeah, yeah.

That like I'm gonna be better at this just naturally. That's the way my fucking brain works. Yeah, I didn't need to take a goddamn course about it. Yeah. Like I can do podcasting. There's no fucking like I studied people. I listened to fuck tons of podcasts to like get my game up. Yeah. But at the end of the day, not everyone can fucking do this. Right. It's just facts. That's a fact. Just like I can't do what y'all do. Like that there's no fucking amount of YouTube tutorials and like mixed classes that are gonna maybe take it to the same level. I think there's a lot of like nature and a lot of what anything people do. Left brain and right brain too. Yeah, is plays a massive part of that. Yeah. And with the and I think even like you know, what we were talking about with the business, like I think that's what it is about it. Like, yeah, of course, like you know, like like we're talking about, like, there's certain things that you're gonna need to know. But there's like for me, I feel like you know, going to a school that was like, you know, like business was like at Morehouse, it's like one of the top. Oh, yeah, you know what I mean? It's like it's ridiculous.

It's a great program. You know, I remember walking in and you know, everybody's standing up, and there's some guys who I got some great friends, you know, who worked there, but they're like, you know, some guys are like, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna work for Moody's or I'm gonna work for SunTrust or I'm gonna work for this Fortune 500 company. And I just stood up and I was like, I just want to like learn how to like do the business of music a little better, you know what I mean? And at the time they weren't offering those type of courses at all. But you did like speak up in class, and like that was like your plan. Yeah, wow, you know what I mean? And it's cool to see it like actually play out that way. Man, I thank God every day, bro. You know, I I I really do because so many people, man, college is a weird time for a lot of people. Yeah, it is. You try to find yourself, you know. Yeah, they don't like walk into the classes and like you know, give this spiel about like what they think they want to do, and then like end up five years later doing it, executing it. Yeah, and and even then it's like it even then it's a battle, right? Because I was the person who stood up and said that, but also I was the person who was like maybe like a couple months later, I'm like in this suit and tie, you know what I mean, and I'm like trying to be somebody maybe I'm not, you know, like trying to get a fucking bank internship or something, like, or I'm like going extra hard on accounting, and I'm just like, man, why this shit is not it, bro?

Like, I'm failing this shit, you know what I mean? See, I did the same thing. I did uh business marketing in college, but my reasoning was I didn't know what the hell I wanted to do, but I realized that no matter what I ended up trying to do, being able to market it was gonna be. It's gonna be important, you know what I'm saying? Exactly. So it's like the most general exactly. It's general. It's like you're always gonna have to market something if it's not yourself, at least. Yeah, but not everyone understands that. You're right. They don't. Why do you think people do like history major because they think it's just fucking easy? They don't understand that like this is literally not gonna fucking help me in any way, shape, or form. Dog, yeah, history major. To be honest, shout out to all the history majors, sorry, but fuck y'all, yo wasted your money. There's this guy, man. I can't remember, man. He he does a lot of shit like with sinks and stuff like that. But I remember him coming to Morehouse. Man, I can't remember his name. Damn it. But he came to Morehouse and he told us that he was a history major. And you laughed. And then yeah, everybody was like laughing. And then we're like, but how did that lead? You know, I mean, some people, you know, you just know.

I mean, you can definitely like then do something else. Right. You're not like doomed for life because you're a history major. You're a history major, but it's more so just like, did that really add any value to what you like? ended up doing? So you want to be a history teacher, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that was the other thing. Like, my my mom, like, she she used to say, like, she was like, you know, you might not end up being in business, but just, you know, just go. I don't know if it's like an old fashioned way for it. Everyone's in business. Right. Literally, any, even if you're a fucking teacher, a history teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's paying you? Yeah. A business. Yeah. The school systems, a business. You're super right. Your salary is based on a fucking, like, so you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like anything you walk into, like, to your point of like just knowing that, like, oh, this is how this is why I'm getting paid this to do this work. This is profits and revenues and costs and blah, blah, blah, all the fucking bullshit accounting, you know. Yeah, stuff that goes into it. But like, and then marketing. I don't know, man. I think that like business degrees, maybe I'm biased because I also had a business degree. Yeah, yeah.

So we're three fucking business nerds here. So it's like, yeah, I can definitely tell. So maybe if we had a history major on here, they'd be serving me as to why it's so important that they got this history degree. But I probably not. Probably not. But okay, so it sounds like you're about to head out of town, work on production, kind of hone in on that craft. Yeah. Anything else you want to speak on as far as like shit that you're excited about that you can talk about. I know a lot of your world is hush hush because of you know, There's a lot of NDA stuff. I know, but is there anything that you can speak on that that you're excited about? Any one more time exclusives? Um, let me let me think, man. Um, I I think honestly, for what I can talk about, I'm excited for this journey and you know, and just diving into you know, owning the fact that I am a producer, you know what I mean? Um that overall is just the biggest thing I'm excited for from now until this the end of the year to just see what I make of it, you know what I mean? Just going in your producer bag. Yeah, just going into that bag. Full, super saiyan producer. Full vocal production, you know what I mean, and making beats, you know what I mean?

And I, you know, um I I thank God for the people who are around me who you know who kind of like speak that into me, you know what I mean, to kind of like to own own up to who you are. This is what you've been doing for me for at least two years, bro. This is not just engineering, you know. what I mean, don't limit yourself, you know. what I mean, so I think that's the biggest thing. Um, you know, I'm excited for because I think I could easily just sit up here and just talk about like all the things that are to come, you know, in the different worlds, especially like engineering, like, but it's like I'm focused on making sure that you know I'm represent I'm representing myself well, you know what I'm saying? And even though we're doing a lot of talk about, you know, perception, but also being that person is very important to me on the other end, you know, outside of Instagram or outside of me DJing and somebody seeing me for somebody when they when they meet me, or you know, if they meet me, or if I meet them, they're able to know, like that they'll know, like, yeah, no, he's that guy, he's who he says he is, or we get in the studio, like that's the most personal place ever, right? Like so many things that the conversations that you have in the studio are crazy.

And I just want to make sure I'm like that person who's representing themselves well. Yeah, no, that's that's beautiful, man. I think if you're not like hearing this and just it's speaking to your soul right now, I have I don't think I've related to anyone more that we've had on the podcast. I mean, you're literally like embodying everything that we talk about all the time. Wow, because he he's had a very similar, you know, struggle with like I could feel that though, you know. Like when I came in here, I said, man, you're hilarious. But I was saying you're hilarious. Um, of course, because of your content, but like even looking into your content, I'm like, nah, like I see what you're I see what you're doing, you know what I'm saying? Like it's meant for us to have connected, like how we did when we were well, I don't even know what show we was at Yo Dog Show, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think in aisle five. Yeah, aisle five. Yeah, definitely. You know what I mean? Of course, with you too, you know what I mean? But like I know, I just know how it is with engineers, man. Like, we're never just engineers, never. And it's all about making sure that we know that.

And then after we know that, making sure that the world knows it. And that's the always the biggest fight. And we have to, you know, take those risks to make sure that you know everyone, everyone knows it. And we know it. Yes. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Man. Well, H3, we've entered a final segment of the One More Time podcast. Buckle the fuck up. Pusha T lookalike. Let's go. I've been looking at him so much. Like he's Pusha T. Oh, I really, the profile is insane. Yeah. yeah. It's so crazy. I either get Pusha T or get T Pain. I literally. T Pain was the other one. Yeah. Yeah. Part of the reason why I even grew locks is because of T Pain. Like T I've never met T-Pain. But he's like the one. for you. He is Literally one of my idols, bro. So is he the one who got you into Twitch streaming? Are you on? Yes, he is. There you go. I'm sure he was. Yeah. Him and um there's this producer. Um, he went to Morehouse, man. Um, his name is Henny the Business. Yeah. You ever heard of the business? Yeah. The business. Oh, of course. Yeah. He, him, that's okay, yeah. Him during, and that's how I like that long haired, thick, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Or three in the morning. Like the the uh the uh the uh no bullshit record by Chris Brown. He's got a whole bunch of other ones, but but yeah, Henny literally this is I met him once, but he inspired me. Like the way my content is is structured based off of how he was he wasn't teaching it, but like I was looking at his stuff all the time on Instagram and YouTube and stuff like that. So between them two, definitely T-Pain with the with the Twitch. He's going crazy for sure. So are you doing educational shit on there? So I am doing so. I have School of Dose. Um, School of Dose is basically like a platform to like for educational shit. Um, I break down like a lot of the mixes I do. I do like beat reviews, I give tips. Um, but I kind of took a step back, and I'll say this. Um I I took a step back off of Twitch because I wanted to make sure that it actually was even more educational. So I'm actually working on like actual courses for School of Dose to uh drop towards the end of the year. Very interesting though. Yeah, because yeah, we have something we can talk to you about.

I was gonna say I'll fill you in on maybe a guest lecturing spot. I might need you for oh, I'm here, bro. We're family now. Because I mean Henry's apparently too pussy to do it, so you know I'm going to be pussy, dude. I don't know if I want to. do it. Like maybe it's not me. Henry, you have a whole county, and who knows what you have a whole county, man. You have so much named after you. You can get hired by Henry County for sure. You feel me? My people. Okay. There's no dose county, bro. Moving on to the rapid fire rampage. Let's get it. Let's go. It's a three-part rampage. Okay. First part, I'm just gonna ask you some short answer questions. We're gonna go back and forth. It should be rapid if Ben doesn't interrupt too much. So is it like one word or like I just the first part you can you can use, you know, a sentence or two. Just answer whatever it takes to answer the. question. Obviously, I don't know how to limit how I talk, right? The the second part is a this or that. But we could have kept going for a while, but are you kidding me? We could have, yeah. Second part, this or that. I'm just gonna give you two choices and you pick one. Okay. The last part is a word association. This one is short.

I give you one word, and you just give me one, maybe two words off the top of your head. All right. Or first thought, you know what I mean? First thought, just yeah, quick and rapid. It definitely is in, you know, I'll feel great. Good. Yes. Shout out to Evan Williams. We're still waiting on the sponsor. Let's go. Rapid Fire Rampage with Dos Diaz, episode 70, part one. Rampage! And we kind of touched on this, but this is the first thing I wanted to ask you. Do engineers deserve publishing? Yes. Period. Y'all heard it, done. Answer that question. Catch up, music industry. Jesus. Wait. Engineers who add who add production value. Okay. Which is most engineers. Gotcha. Even if I'm just mixing a record and I add a beat drop. Boom. Okay. That's low-key production. Anyway. Quentin Tarantino is directing a biopic on the life of Dos Diaz. Who plays the lead role?

Who are we tapping into? Who plays it like Miley? I guess I'd have to get Pusha T. I was like, dude, if it doesn't, if it's not Pusha T or Pain. Yeah, or Pain. Yeah. Yeah. Um, we haven't talked much sports, actually, any sports. Oh, yeah, let's go with that. How bad will the Atlanta Falcons be this year? Atlanta Falcons. will be terrible. No, we did talk a little bit of sports. Remember, he said he was a fowler? He was a fowler. You can ask me any sports question. Okay. That was the only one I had. I just wanted to make sure that we're gonna be as bad as that. Got that out of the way. Yeah, yeah. No, we're gonna be just good enough to get a bad draft pick. We're gonna like have some random run, but still miss the playoffs, but then still get a bad draft pick. Yep, and I have no idea what's going on with basketball at all. Yeah. Well, actually, the Hawks, you know. Yeah, the Hawks, but hey, look, listen though. I can have like a conversation with you, though. I can hold my weight.

Okay. Yeah. I I'm good at making you believe I know what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's the key. You know what I mean? Even if you don't, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same, same. Dos. If you were an emoji, what would you be and why? That emoji. The one that does this. Oh, yeah. I thought you were thinking about it. Because I'm always thinking. I love that. I love that. In an ideal session, the perfect session. Right. How many people are there and what are they doing? It's just me and the artists. And we're doing our jobs. Love it. How often does that happen? Not often, probably. Honestly, in the world that I'm in now, really often. Nice. So it was like the early on where it's like just parties and shenanigans and when I was like tracking like rappers and nudie for sure. Yeah, yeah. So like, yeah, when I was like assistant for Nudie, definitely. Yeah. I can imagine that. Lots of bitches.

Once I got over it's a lot going on, dog. Like, oh man. Yeah. But like, I definitely, when I went to like when I was started being a staff engineer at LVRN, pretty much changed the entire climate. Yeah. Good. So, new business venture, right? You're opening a strip club in Atlanta. Okay. What are you calling it? Are you gonna be my partner? I'll go in with you. A dose of Henry. Wait. That sounds weird. I'm not really I'm not really wrong with that. I'm going to give us a big pause. But it's that it's on record. That's the strip club you're opening. A dose of Henry. I hate it, but go. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait Wait a second.

No, let me clear it up, right? A dose of Henry, because instead of Atlanta, it's gonna be in Henry County. Okay. It makes a little more sense now. It's still questionable. a lot more sense, actually. It's Still questionable. I like it. Come on. And I'm not sure what the foot traffic you'll get in Henry County for sure. It wouldn't be good at all, bro. This business is failing in the first six months. 100%. I'm moving on. You're starting another boy band. What do you call it? I am calling it. Everything's gotta have to do with it. It's gonna have to do something to do with dose. So it's either gonna be dosage or it's gonna be overdose. Ooh. Could overdose have two Zs somehow at the end of it? We're gonna take that out and we're gonna put two Z's. Thank God. Overdose. Just pay homage to the famous boys, yeah. 100%, man. Shout out. Don't forget where you came from. Come on.

Can't overdose. Okay, this next one is See how stupid it sounds. Yeah, it sounds crazy to the famous boys. This next one is uh kind of philosophical. Okay. Should have brought my glasses. Is a thumb a finger. No, it's a thumb. Period. You can only use plugins from one company for the rest of time. You suck, man. What's the company? The company that I will always use plugins from will be Waves. Waves? You're so lame. That's the first time I've disagreed with you. Yeah, man. Major. but let me tell you why. First of all, low latency around the clock. Because they're small and trash, yeah. Come on, man. Get the job done, man. You track, like tracking, you have no latency. The artist is not gonna be like, it's like a little, like a little little delay. That's what I mean. That's why I bought a better computer. Now, if it wasn't, but that's way more expensive, Henry.

Right. If it wasn't Waves, then it'd be um it'd probably be um it'd probably be FabFilter. I'm good with that. Okay. Love FabFilter. Maybe a plug-in alliance bundle. And in and in waves defense, like you're a slate guy though. Every studio, I love slate. Every studio has waves. So you can kind of bounce around studios. FabFilter plugins are expensive as hell. I mean, I bought the bundle a long time ago. Fuck yeah. You see what chair I'm sitting in, right? The Herman Miller. D Herman Miller. Well, you know, okay, what chairs are we sitting in? Yeah. Fucking Jesus. Yeah, he clearly hasn't splurged on my chair back here. My back's wearing. Right, right, right. Me too, though. Oh shit, I'm cooler. Okay. If you could be one age forever, what would it be? 25. This age right now? This is it. I'm 27. 27 right now. But 25 is just smack in the middle, man. It's like you're not too young, not too old. I like it. You know what I'm saying? I like it.

What is your biggest in studio pet peeve? Oh, wow. My pet peeve. Uh shit. Oh. Sample this later. Can we make this into an RB record? That's how I was. That's how that's how I bought time. Um, my biggest in studio pet peeve would have to be. Like I just, I just, man, I just bring my own headphones, man. I just don't, I just sweaty headphones. Yeah, sweaty headphones, man. I haven't ever even I had to think about it because like yesterday, uh like or or this morning, I had a session with Sean, and um he has like I mean six pairs of headphones. Like he has the Sony ones, and I use, of course, Audio Technicas and the white ones because they just sound better than the black ones to me for whatever reason.

But I always bring them and I have packed them up because I thought I was about to leave, and he was like, Man, Dose, let me Dose, let me cut this real quick. Let me cut this real quick. And I was about to put his on, and I was like, nah, I'm not going to pull mine now. Okay, can't do it. Fair enough, fair enough. I like that. You are awarded a quarter of a million dollars for every second you stand in a microwave. How many seconds do you stand in the microwave? No idea what it's gonna do. I have no, I haven't researched this. It's gotta be an old microwave, man. It's gonna be staying in that motherfucker. I'm being there pretty long, bro. Well, no, wait, I'll die. Exactly. Uh shit. Um it'd be four seconds to a million. Four seconds to a milli. Can you do it?

I'll do four seconds. You four seconds? Is that what you're going with? That'd be cool. Yeah. Because I want to survive. You know what I mean? I don't know. But you want the mill. Could be some brain damage. We don't know. Four seconds though? It's kind of long. time. It's better than ten seconds. Yeah. Oh, ten, I would not do that. Ten, Give me the million Two and a half mil. You know, pay my taxes, and you know, I'll be cool. Okay. Last question of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? My favorite curse word is shit. Part one and part one. Great. I love it. Yeah, I love the Jeopardy little BOP that we had going. Yeah, no, we might have to see later for sure. Can I switch it? No. No? All right. Now locked in shit. I say Bumbaclaat a lot. Ooh, that is a good one. Because it kind of fits in any situation. You know what I mean? I like it's versatile. Bumbaclaat. Great answers. Not the most rapid. We'll see if we can wrap it. Right, I move it so slow. I'm going to do better. And Ben is very distracting in these times. I'm sorry. part two is the this or that. Shit.

Ben. I know. It's my fault. Engineering or DJing? Engineering. MIDI controller or MPC? MPC. Have a plan or create from scratch. Sadly, have a plan. Not sad. I mean I get it. Stacks or ad libs? Stacks. Snares or claps. Snares. Ugh. Melodies or drums? Melodies. Jay or Wayne. Wayne. Good man. Cardi or Nicki? Cardi. On a plane, window seat or aisle seat. Oh my gosh. Every single time though. Window seat. I pee way too much on flights. There's no chance I'm in the window. And you sit in the back. You like to sit in the back, don't you? I don't even know if I have a preference of where. I mean, if you like to be closer to the bathroom. It's not that far to walk. I don't mind.

the walk. I just don't want to ask people to move. I just don't want to climb over sleeping fucking randos. I hate using the restroom on the plane. I hate it too, but my bladder doesn't care about the fact that I don't like it. Well, look, I gotta go right now, so if we can make this more rapid. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, Ben, get a face tat of your favorite food or have permanent vampire teeth. Permanent vampire teeth. Yeah, it'd be kind of hard. Be always just imagining with him with permanent things. Be always whispering or always shouting. Man, always shouting. Loud and proud. Yeah. Joe Biden sniffs your hair on national television. Wow. Or lose three weeks off of your life. Go ahead, Joe. Finally, someone chose life. Do your thing. Because it's not that bad. We did it, Joe. It's kind of weird. Yeah, but the other ones you've said with that are like Like Trump pukes on you. Beyonce vomits on you or something. What?

Trump farts on you. Yeah, Joe Budden. Joe Biden. I said Joe Budden. Joe Biden. Joe Biden. Would you change your answer if it was Joe Biden? Joe Biden, no. No. Give up t-shirts or give up cheese. Give up cheese, because I'm not supposed to be eating that anyway. I'm lactose. Oh. You're Crazy. I mean, I love cheese. What would he wear instead? Like, I mean, tank top or something? or like long sleeves or blankets. That part is not included in the question. Moving on. Golf shirts. Battle 100 duck-sized elephants. Or one elephant-sized duck. One elephant sized duck. Yeah. Going for it? Just a massive duck. Big ass duck. Versus dose. Okay. Wow. I'm telling you. I want to see that. Be totally gray next year. Or wrinkle face next year. Gray.

Gray? Yeah. Silver five black afterwards. You know what I mean? Oh, it's a loophole. we can dye it. Okay. Eat Pop Tarts with every meal. Or erase all Pop Tarts from the planet. Oh no. Eat it with every meal or eat. Every meal. What? Why would you do that? Big Pop Tart fan, huh? Real Pop-Tart fan. I'll put them in a damn microwave so quick. Be sick of them and you're having some milk with that. Last one of the this or that. Okay. It's to gauge your risk tolerance. Okay. You have a 75% chance of your best friend winning 1 million dollars. Or a 25% chance of you winning $5 million. Me, man. Going for it. Selfish prick. Virgo. Part two. Part two. Moving on to the last part of the Rapid Fire Rampage. That was an improvement on part one. Pretty good. Let's see if if you if you can completely bring it back here. Watch me, Henry.

I have high hopes. And we're going to we're going to Dose of Henry's in Henry County after this. Let's go, let's get some wings. crazy. So word association. I'm gonna give you one word. You give me ideally just one word, maybe two, right off the top of your head. Here we go. Starting with hip hop. Brooklyn. Ranch. Dressing. Why is that so funny? Alcohol. Poisoning. Money. Green. Snow. Allegra. Pro Tools. So much shit Pro Tools, man. It's just so much shit. Inbox. Perfect pairing. Old school, you feel me? Perfect pairing. Lawyer.

Now pigeon. Toe. Sport. Bra. Okay. That works. Perfect. Compressor. EQ. Church. Trap. J. Cole. Kendrick. Ooh. Plunger. Toilet. Smoke. Perp. TikTok. Dance. Bikini. Bottom. You know that. Shout out SpongeBob. Chicken. Little. EQ. Compressor. I don't feel like. Lil.

You said Lil? Lil? Lil. I always have to clarify that one. Not little. Oh, Lil. Lil. Lil. Lil man. Lil Man. Lil Man. That's not what Sean Garrett said. How many times did you have to clarify Lil with Fireman? Five or six. He literally was like, Wait, what'd you say? Lil? Lil? Like Lil. Yeah. Lil? Lil. Lil? Lil. Because he literally said, You mean like little? He goes, no, like Lil. Lil. Pirate. Bay. Mixtape. Monopoly. Podcast. One more time. One more time. My guy. Salad. Ooh. Caesar. Yeah. Adlib. Vocal. Vocal. Weak. Cryptocurrency.

Down. It's down. Summer. Walker. What a rampage. What a rampage. What an episode. Dos Diaz. We appreciate you coming on the show, Thank you for coming, man. Such amazing stories. Great perspective. Could have gone another hour. Could have definitely gone another hour. We were already going for, you know, 45 minutes before, I feel like. I don't even know. Oh, yeah. Um, so yeah, really appreciate you coming on, man. Thank y'all, man. Can't wait to hear you, you know, into this year. What this producer bag, you know, what you know, what you're pulling from there. Yeah, man. Um, thank you guys, man. One more time, man. Like period. I I'm excited. One more time. I'm excited. for what you guys got got coming as well. And I'm I'm happy to just know y'all. Let's listen to it. Absolutely. Let's do this shit. Let's get it. Dose of Henry's coming soon. Dose of Henry's in Henry County. Come see us. Make sure you check out the day shift and as well as the night shift. Half off wings from two to six. The best wings in the county. That's Henry County.

All strippers send your applications to Henry or Dose D S's Instagram DMs. DoseHenry at gmail.com. Let's go. Until next week, Henry. What are we doing? Getting out of here. Getting the fuck out of here. Peace. Bye bye. Hop up in a flash cart. Yeah