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#071September 22, 202287 minInterview

Tate228 Interview: Surviving Hurricane Katrina | Discovered by Cyhi | Working with Grip -

In this week's episode, we interview Tate228 who talks about surviving Hurricane Katrina, getting discovered by Cyhi, working with Grip and more! Tate228 is a rapper from Gulfport, MS who relocated to Atlanta during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Despite getting a late start rapping, Tate is hands down one of the dopest artists in the city and has a voice you will never forget. With a co-sign from Cyhi, you know the kid can rap. After steadily grinding, doing cyphers and showcases around the city, Tate's latest record JIVE has been doing numbers. His upcoming project "Contact Sport" is on the way and is sure to be a classic. It is executive produced by podcast alum TU! and has a solid list of features. Be sure to tap in now and watch his story continue to unfold!

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But the thing is, I don't think people understand what the value is. When you say that, you like add value. I think the average artist just instantly go to like they writing ability or like they singing ability or whatever. Like, I mean, it's like, nah, you just gotta add value. The one more time music podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music, hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. We're from Bemo Coops to Piss off, Tomorrow Distant, and so part there one more time. Part there one more time. Pine day, she like one more time. They pay that one more time, one more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host, Playback Ben here with my co-host, Henry with a three, because Henry with an E was already taken. Henry, who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? Welcoming in on episode 71 of the One More Time Podcast. Member of the iconic hip hop collective from the East Coast Wu Tang Clan. It's Method Man. Meth.

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Thanks for making the trip down. Shout out to Method Man. How's Red? Yeah, yeah, okay. Shout out to Method, man though. Shout out to Method Man. But in all seriousness, we have super dope artist. We got Tate 228. So the 228, for anybody want to know this, I had a couple people DM me this. The 228 is from it's the area code where I'm from. I'm from Gulfport, Mississippi. Orange Grove is the neighborhood. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so like I'm actually from Mississippi. I moved up here because of Hurricane Katrina. But since I've been here, the East Side, yeah, that's the home. Like, but you but you're not changing to Tate 404. Nah, not a chance. Tate 678. Nah, hell nah. Tate 470, I think is the newest. This is how I love, like, this is day one, but nah, that's what the 228 stand for. So for sure. Yeah, talk to me about like what it was like growing up in Gulfport. Like, for those that aren't familiar, like paint us the picture of like, you know, what it was like growing up there.

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Probably similar to a typical person growing up on like the east side of Atlanta, but just in a smaller area. Because like where I'm from, like a lot of people be like looking at Mississippi like uh dirt roads and like cows and country. I feel like country accents. That's not where I'm from. Like, that's not the part where I'm from. Okay. So it's a different part of Mississippi. It's the city. Like, like we got casinos and the beach and all this kind of shit. So like tourists. Yeah, like that's the type of shit we did every summer. Like, you got the tourists coming down there. So it was, I feel like it was pretty similar to any, I guess, city, I guess, upbringing, but just small and complex. Smaller scale, yeah. So like everybody know everybody. Yeah, see, for me, when I hear Mississippi, I immediately go to racist. Is that accurate? Okay, so now yeah, you do you do you do get that. Okay, You definitely get that. so less the dirt roads and more the racist. Yeah, you definitely get, yeah.

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So now you get the racist part. Okay. But it it that that shit was even kind of weird too growing up, because like you have homeboys, like, because like all right, growing up and elementary it's mixed. It's it's is is it was definitely a mix, but it was probably more heavier black, and then like a mix of everything else, but it was definitely more heavier black, just because your elementary school is gonna be closer to your like close area neighborhood. Uh-huh. And then like once we got to middle school, due to it, like I like I went to North Gulfport Middle School. Like that school shit like right in the hood. So like that shit was probably like 90% black. But it was still mixed. It was definitely mixed. Like you still see other people, but it was it was definitely a lot of black. But now when you get to high school, you got like that everybody meets at the high school. So like all the kids from like Woolmarket and Lyman, uh just different parts of uh uh Harrison County, like uh, oh well, like that side of Gulfport.

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Everybody met at the high school. So when you get to high school, you have certain friends that was like, like white guys, white boys, or even white girls, and then when you get to high school, some of that friends that didn't go to school with us, maybe they they parents is racist, and then now that's when uh like you kind of see it like right in your face more than Like either your friend that was cool with you acting funny now, or you see them like beefing with like they they friend, because it's like nah, like I fuck with these people. Like, so like you don't like these dudes, but like I like them. So like the first day of like I know like ninth grade, that shit was like uh remember the titans, like we're playing football. Oh man. Like first day, we get into the gym, all the white boys are sitting over here, all the black boys are sitting over here. Damn. And it's and and we sat there, like and and it wasn't even on purpose. It was like everybody went to sit with who they knew. Yeah. And then we sat there for probably like 40 minutes, and then the coaches walked in and they look and they like, what the fuck are y'all doing?

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Like and then y'all started winning every game, and so y'all came together. We actually started getting good, but we ain't get that good. Okay, I ain't gonna lie. There's no movie about his team. It ain't it ain't work like the movie because real life took place. Like, but it did, it did build like some relationships. I can't lie. Like a lot of boys like was able to like hash out differences, fault, or whatever the case may be, and then was able to get cool. But real life I was, it's not a movie. Like you had people that just wasn't breaking. Yeah. For Sure. Yeah, I mean you had, yeah, it sounds like you had your sunshines that were like didn't understand race, which was a beautiful thing. And then you had like your Gary's, who was like, he wasn't he like the most racist one, right? At first. Yeah, and then he like came around too. What do you mean? But once again, movie. That's a movie. That's a movie. That's my brother. In his real life, Gary stayed up fucking Gary. Gary stayed Gary. He was true to the sword. That's funny, man. He he wasn't apologetic about this shit. I I just like, you know, we talked about this before. Um, you know, with someone who who's like, you know, grandparents are from like Arkansas.

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I think it was Fireman or whatever. He produced a lot on Donda. And like him talking about like that perspective, like his grandparents growing up in the South. But then even his manager, Mike Norris, who we had on, he's from like outskirts of Chicago in Illinois, suburban Illinois, and it's like racist as fuck up there. And I'm thinking that like I usually go to like Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, those are like the racist places or whatever. But apparently, like there's more to it than that. Yeah, Illinois is also like equally racist. Yeah, I don't know. like in my eyes, everywhere is damn near the same in a sense of if you're in a city, it's is everybody not everything is different. Yeah, uh geographically, but still like the the the current of the city is the city. Right. Atlanta is not the same as Georgia, Chicago's not the same as Illinois, kind of thing. And then like the rule anywhere that's not the city is like rural area. Yeah, they just haven't caught up yet. And racist. Yeah, it's like and a lot of that rural area is gonna be so much. So from California to Atlanta.

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So, you know, I I had a lot of people come up from New Orleans, New Orleans, Louisiana, to my high school during the Katrina era, right? And so I think we're almost, you know, similar age. And so, like, talk to me about like what it was like being on the fucking Gulf Coast as Katrina's like approaching. Like, what the fuck was that like? You know what I mean? That's the other part. Like, so that's why that's why when you asked me the question about uh uh like the upbringing, I kind of got stumped because like even with like the fucking hurricane, I was like I can cuss. You can fucking cuss all the fuck you want, my guy. We gotta fucking believe every fucking one of those out. So it's a lot of fucking work for us. It's gonna be a lot of editing, but you know. No, I'm kidding. even with the hurricane, bro. Like, that shit is normal, man. Like, nobody, like, we didn't give a fuck. Like, we was wow. My brother gonna see this shit like the the night before the hurricane uh well, so like when they was talking about the hurricane, we had school, and then everybody like oh uh they saying we might end up getting out of school early. So you're like fuck. Yeah, everybody's like, hell yeah. We're going to get out of school. hurricane party, let's get it.

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Let's have a good. Okay. So like my brother, uh then one of my partners, we had to my nigga Chris, we had the crib, and then my mama, she was married at that time, her husband. He like putting up boys and shit. Well, not even boys, he was like taping the windows and shit, like oh, in case they shatter or something. And then he watching the reports and shit. But we on the phone, like it was some girls at like the shelter. We like let's shit, let's go to the shelter to get these bitches. Picking up girls at the hurricane shelter. Yeah, because in your mind, like, because we you know, already been at this point in life, we did not, and and I'm in high school, but you still already done been through at least like probably like four or five hurricanes already. So like the shit just seemed like, oh, this this is like the shot. It's another one of those. God see, I'm like, I'm picturing it as this like epic like movie moment. Everyone's like packing their shit. No, I can remember. There was some people doing that. I ain't gonna lie, it was because some people did evacuate.

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But you got the people like every year that leave, period, because of the so like you got motherfuckers that like they wait till the hurricane or something gonna happen, or it looked like it's gonna be serious. So they got a reason to leave. Yeah. So like it's just they reason to leave. Yeah. And then you got the people that really just take it serious and they they evacuate every time they told the evacuate. But the people from the soil, why don't motherfuckers stay there. They don't leave. Hold the fort down. Hell yeah, like, because nine times out of ten, nine times, all right. Think about it. it blows over and it's bullshit, right? I I don't I can't call out from like uh each one, but shit. If you go back to 95 and go up to 2005, yeah, before Katrina, 10 years, it's probably six, seven hurricanes that hit the Gulf Coast. None of them did with Hurricane Beatrice, just some rain. Hurricane Beatrice was a was a little bitch. He didn't do nothing. So like Katrina ain't nothing. People be chilling. So like when that shit happened, like, hell, you we start realizing how real it was in the middle of the motherfucking life. Yeah. We, we everything, like the lights always go off.

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So like when the lights went out, we like, all right, cool, cool, everything cool. And and then you kind of hear like lost power. That's cute, cute. Steady rain and steady rain. Like, damn, you looking out the window, you seeing like damn shit, it's it's been a flood. Like, all right, damn, this shit getting real bad. And then like we we had moved our cars. Like, like so in the middle of the storm, like, shit, go out there and move the cars to move them up closer to the house just because it was like, shit, it looked like these motherfuckers gonna float away. Damn. So when we moving the cars, like then you kind of really like you out there outside, and you like, oh this shit real. Like. So how bad did it get in your specific area then? Shit. I when we came back in from moving the cars, my mama was like, oh, it's leaking in the ceiling. I'm like, all right, damn. We poked a hole into the ceiling. And then she was like, it's leaking in another room. We went back, like started walking down the hallway. As soon as we got to the door of the room, the ceiling fell in. Damn.

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I'm like, fuck. Started going back to the living room, the ceiling fell in. Ceiling fell in the whole house, and then came like the the inner ceiling fell in. And then once that fell in, the shingles and shit started coming off inside everything. We was looking at the sky. We had to put a tarp over the house after the hurricane. So literally, what did you do? Stayed there I had to. Yeah, because you couldn't make it to the shelter at that point, right? Yeah, no, it was fucked. My mama went and got into the closet. That's that's that's at the point when we She went to the closet. Yeah, she got in the closet. That's when me and my brother was kind of like, all right, yeah, this shit real, bro. Damn. We might die in this bitch. It's all jokes now, but like, holy shit. So, you know, on a somber note, did you lose any, you know, friends or relatives to the storm? So it was definitely like I didn't lose like nobody like personally to me, but like I know like there's different neighborhoods, people that you know of, or like this part, yeah, my cousin. Yeah, but like yeah, it was it was and it was it was a a bunch of deaths during the hurricane, but it was way in my mind. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Somebody can fact check this on the internet. Yes. I think it was way more killings or like deaths after the hurricane, because we was stuck down there. So like that's when the shit started feeling like if it's if it's ever end of the world, this is what it feels like. I was literally, I'm imagining like an apocalypse type of like scene. Like it's just like looting and people just It's just every because I you ain't got no power no power. Everybody's shit fucked up. It's dead, certain certain areas got dead bodies and shit, and then ain't nobody helping. So it's like they telling you, you hear on the on the radio, like they say, don't drink the water, don't bathe in the water, like don't do anything with the water because the water contaminated. But I what the fuck do we drink? And then after maybe like a day or two, the way they first dropped off anything, they came down the street in like tanks and was just like hand the shit out. Damn crazy. That's wild, man.

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Real army tanks coming down the street. You get like a blanket and some hot chocolate, and then they had, like... And a bottle of water. And the MREs. That was that was the main thing that like everybody was fucking up, them MREs. What are those? What was that? Meal ready to eat. Oh like the army meal, like it comes in like a pack. Yeah. Just take it out, you pour some water in it, heat up. Yeah. And they got a whole three-course meal. I got spaghetti and all kind of shit. Oh wow. Were those good? Hell nah. I was like it sounds fucking horrible. Sounds like some prison meal. Yeah, I was about to say, but it sounds worse. But the fucked up part is in them conditions hell, yeah. That shit was good. Yeah. Because in them conditions, like what the fuck is you gonna eat? It's like, oh shit, I'd rather eat this, than some goddamn noodles and some shit like fuck it. Relatively, it's fire. Yeah, or some beans or some shit that's in the can that's you know, some canned goods, all you really could eat. Mm-hmm. Like some canned goods type shit. So hell yeah, that shit was good and it was hot. So so like, at what point did it was it even possible to leave? Right?

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Like, because you're mentioning like this sounds like fucking chaos. So then, like, how do you even arrive at like the point of leaving? People were killing people for Ice, people getting killed for ice. Damn. All kind of shit. So, like, after like it must, it might have been like, I want to say two and a half weeks, probably. Damn. Probably two, maybe like three weeks. How long did it feel like? It shit felt like forever. Like a year, right? I don't know. Like, I'm just imagining it. Because even like sleeping at night was you couldn't sleep. Like you couldn't, because it was so fucking hot. Yeah. Like think about it. No AC. Yeah. I complained if my AC is, like not working to like maximum capability. Think about the AC go out right after it just rained horribly. Ugh. Like, and it's hot as fuck in the house. It's a motherfucker. And then it ain't, it ain't just like your regular house, the roof off of the motherfucker. So now the insects and everything. Like it's just, everything was affecting you. Damn. Yeah. so like after like three weeks, they had announced that they was gonna open up uh a gas station. That's when everybody was like, oh shit, we gotta get some gas and get the fuck out of here.

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And we went, I know we left, we left the crib, me, my brother, and like two more people with us. I'm trying to think of it, but I can't remember. But two of my homeboys, and I want to say we probably the gas station might have been like three miles from the house. We left, got on Three Rivers Road, and like you gotta go down three rivers road, and then you get up to 49, and then probably like seven rivers road at that point. Man, we get on this motherfucker, like this this road is still like two and a half miles away from the gas station. Damn. We get on this road and it's a line. Of course. Like already a line. Yeah, like three in the morning. Like we ain't get gas till like three, four in the evening, that like in that evening. Holy shit. And the gas 12 hours to go two and a half miles. Yeah, and the gas station didn't even open up till like seven, eight in the morning. But everybody was out there at like two, three in the morning. Waiting Because they heard the announcement. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

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Did you have any of your stuff? Were you able to salvage like anything? Hell no. Everything was fucked. Hell yeah, everything was fucked. Everything. Wow. Literally start over. Trophies to old pictures. I know my mama did, I know she did keep like um uh one um what's that shit called? With the pictures in it, like a photo app. Yeah, like a photo book, yeah. Yeah, she kept one, but even that, like it's funny. I'm about to put that shit in some. You can see the water damage on it, like some of the pictures, like they got the little wiggly shit on there, and like the the discoloration on it. Hell yeah, like everything got fucked up. Damn, that's crazy. So you uproot to Atlanta, you get gas. You get gas. Did you know you were headed to Atlanta? Like, was that the plan? Hell, no. We didn't come straight to Atlanta. okay, where'd you go? We got gas. And my grandma, I got my grandma on my dad's side. Like, she always was in our life, like we didn't have our pops. Like, he was gone, bruh. Like, you went around.

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You know, if you're watching this pops, yeah. If you watch it, I know, you know what I'm saying? I know especially now, like, but yeah, we're gone. You know what I'm saying? Like, that nigga know that now. But whatever it is. Oh, we went to his mama's house. We went to his, she stay in Starkville, Mississippi, like uh where uh Mississippi State is the college. And we went up there because it's like five hours away, so like in that part of Mississippi. Now that's the country. This is this is the country when people think uh Mississippi, that's that's up there. But uh it's it's it's away from the coast, so it's like five, like five and a half hours away from the coast. And um, so they really they ain't really getting no damage or nothing like that. So we went straight to her house and kind of just was trying to figure out what the fuck was going on, because like when you you know, like when you in the shit, it's just everything is just crazy. So then when you when we got to her house, you're able to like watch this shit from the news and see like, oh fuck, like this shit really fucked up. Yeah, we thought it was bad for us, like it's really bad.

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Yeah, that's it. This is global news. Yeah, that's when you realize, okay, so like we might not be just going back home in a couple days. Like this might be like really serious. And uh we stayed up there for probably like three days. And then my my other grandma, my mama, she she called because she ended up getting rushed to a shelter because like her the house she lived in, she was like right off the beach in Biloxi. And the house she lived in like horrible, horrible flood area. So like they they came in and like forced all those people out into the shelters, and then the shelter started flooding. So like they emergency evacuated them people to Rome, Georgia. Wow, wow. Yeah, so like when they when when we got a car, like finally, because when you down there too, that's the other thing. It was no phones. So you can't like check on her. Yeah, you got like we got that's why I too it felt like the end of the world, because you got your phone, but you ain't got no service. Yeah. Or no battery.

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I just wanna say, and then you got charging. I about to say you got like, nah, so nah, you got the car. Like you could get away. Yeah, charge it in the car, yeah. But like, but it's still it don't matter. Yeah. In case you're playing fucking video games, I'm like, you can't use it, no service at all. Wow. So like when we when we got up there to my my uh grandma's house, that's how my mom was able to contact her mama, my grandma. And when she told us she was in Rome, Georgia, we were like, well, shit, we gotta come to Rome and pick up my grandma. And when we got up here, we was just like, shit, Atlanta ain't far. We might as well just go to Atlanta. Yeah. And got out here and just shit, never left. Damn. Wow. So what were like, you know, what was your first impression of Atlanta? Like once you finally made it here, kind of like what were your you know, first thoughts? Well, shit, when we first got here, you know, I was we straight from your area. So it's like, yeah, you know, it's cool, but it's like shit, I wanna go home. I mean shit ain't home.

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It's not home. Yeah, like that's how you feel. And then I at that time, I'm in high school too. So like, you know, that's like your that's like your I guess your molding years and shit. Formative. Yeah, formative years. Yeah, so it's like shit, I'm ready to go back to the crib, like everybody at the crib. So shit, I know the first probably two years, shit, I was trying to get back to that. Really? Yeah. Just like seeing if you could stay with a homie or like family, even if there was. still. I went back. I went back for a minute. For a little bit. Yeah, man, but it was what I needed, because it just made me feel like it was like, yeah, it's better It's not home anymore. and it's still home, but it's like it you you when you see the light, you know to take it. You know what I'm saying? So what did you see though? Like, you know, when you say it wasn't. Because then when you know, like you said it was better in Atlanta, what did you see that was better? So when you tell so back to kind of the first question you asked, when you said like growing up.

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Yeah, growing up felt regular. Like, because I I only saw from my point of view or my perspective. But when I got up here, and then you kind of see, like when I when I moved for one, moving up here, I went to when I the first school I went to up here was Stevenson. Stevenson was in high school. Mm-hmm. And I ain't never seen, for one, and like I told you, our school we had elementary, it was like a lot, a lot of black, but it was still mixed. It was still like 80%, I would say like it might have been like 75%. or something. I could, but I exaggerated, saying 80. Oh, and Stevenson. But in Stevenson, this is 100% black. 100% black, brother. and then too, all our teachers, even in and no matter where, and like all our teachers are white. You ain't see like really no black teachers like that. Oh, wow. Like at Nogport, it was, it was, we had uh Mr. Dubra, and what's my other boy's name. Uh damn, what's his name? the eighth grade principal, but they was black.

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They was some black principal, but like the teacher still was all white. Yeah. At Stevenson, this is the first time I ever got to the school, everybody black. The teachers, the principals, black, every fucking body was black. It might have been one white person that I I I can't even think of. But it might have been one, you know what I'm saying? Oh man, you forgot the one white person? Like, come on. Man, he got lost in the somewhere. volleyball coach. Yeah, he got lost. But that's what I'm saying. So, and then too, why that shit was crazy, because the area it sat in. Like I ain't never had never been in no area that looked like that. Yeah. Like, to me, that shit looked like, coming from where I came from, going to over by Stevenson, that shit looked like the Brady bunch or something. Like, damn, these big ass houses. Yeah. and then you're like, okay, this is a school. Like, like shit, all right, cool. That's a big school, too. Yeah, so in my mind, I'm thinking, like, I'm finna go into some shit off TV. And then you walk in, it's like, damn, like, everybody.

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Shit, all right, cool. So, like. Do y'all live in these houses around here? That was the first thing that goes through your mind. Like, but y'all stay out here. Like, man. So that's that's so that's what I'm saying. When I so when I went back home, then you can see like everybody don't live like this. Yeah. Like, everybody in the way of life ain't like this. It's like, you see how them folks live. Like, you see what they're doing. like, even to the point of like getting up here and like meeting so many people that was like, oh, I'm going to this college, I'm going to that college, I'm going to this college. We're like, damn, like, where I'm from, people ain't talking like that. And even people that was like in the sports and like knew like they they was good at sports, they weren't talking about going to this university. They was talking about going to like perk or like, you know, like a junior college or some shit. Like they weren't really thinking not too many people would just they ain't had a vision just because really unfortunately, like you can only dream as far as you can see most of the time. Yeah.

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If you don't know if something exists, how can you dream for it? You know what I'm saying? So like you, and then being down there, it's like it's different because you could go to the beach, and like that's the end. Like you could go to the end of the city. Yeah, this is where it stopped. This is where it stopped. Like, this is where it stopped. And if you ain't never really got outside of this motherfucker, in your mind, you could be trapped in thinking, like, this is where it stopped. So you can see, like, this is all I got. Shit. Yeah. So when you get up here, for me, it was just like, damn, like, that ain't where it stopped. Like, oh, this shit keep going. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, and now the outskirts of Atlanta is even like more sprawled than ever. So that it is. Yeah. So, for me, when I got back, it was just like, nah, man, like, I love it, but this ain't for me. Yeah, it's still home. Yeah. But you saw a different world that like inspired you that there's more to this shit than just where you were from. It's home, but I can't live there. It ain't

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it ain't enough to. That's interesting, man. Like, I feel like people that do come from, I mean, you know, you know, even Goldport isn't like even super small town. Like, to your point, it was still kind of like, you know, a city, whatever. But like people do need to venture out, right? To be able to see that where they're from is not the fucking be all end all. You know what I mean? Um, so I'm not this like, you know, huge travel the world. I gotta I don't, you know, I'm not even saying like go crazy really, but it's like at least get out a little bit to like make sure you understand that like because I just have so many even like family members that yeah, haven't left their fucking hometown. And I'm like, you literally just haven't seen other shit. So you don't even know that this is like, you know, maybe this is where you want to end up, but maybe it's not, you know. And then I feel like if your life ain't afforded you them type of experiences, then you gotta do it. Just so you know. Now, you know, if you done went to school and they took you out here out of state, and all this, all right, then cool. But if your life ain't afforded you outside of your regular day-to-day which you've been, you definitely gotta move around.

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Yeah, you're the main person that needs to try something. Yeah, exactly. Cause I mean, I'm I'm acknowledging the fact that not everyone can go fucking fly to France or some shit like that, right? But like leaving, I mean, you can get on a Greyhound bus for fucking 30 bucks. I don't know what the fuck it costs. I'm just saying, like for a very, you know, for a fucking eighth of weed. Like, like you know what I mean. Like, I'm just saying it's it's definitely possible. So, you know, so like how did you start to fit in? Like, did you start like making friends easily, or were you feeling like an outcast? Like, you know, being from not from the city. Nah, yeah, nah, I ain't gonna lie. Like, I feel like I always been a pretty likeable guy. Okay, all right. So yeah, so it wasn't too hard to like to kind of start fitting in. Hell nah, because like even like back home, like like me and my, I got a brother, I got a brother that's like we 16 months apart. He's 16 months older than me. Okay. So like we always like attracted people. You know what I'm saying? So like, shit, even back home, like I house, like my mama had to work. She was a single mother, so she she always had to work.

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Our house was the hangout. Like everybody used to come to our house. So shit. When I moved up here, it turns to the same thing. I don't know how. Like she's like, God damn it, I thought I was gonna get rid of these motherfuckers. Yeah, like just a whole new. How did you make more friends? Like a whole new set of motherfuckers. And it's like, how these motherfuckers go? Shout out, mom. Shout out to mom. Yeah, shout out my mama, man. Man, putting up with that shit. I mean, my house was the exact same way. The reason my house was that is because I went to a uh Catholic school, so everyone came from like all over the fucking city. I actually lived like five minutes away from the school. So my house just by default was like, oh, there's a football game in three hours. Where can we go get high and like drunk? You know what I mean? So my mom, God bless her. Like, she never came downstairs, thank God, because we were, I don't even know, you know, we were up to no good. But yeah. My mama wasn't even that, so I ain't done a little bit. See, that's even better. And then she'll pull up and just be yelling, like, get out, get out, get out, get out. That's beautiful.

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Party over, y'all. Yep. So the first time I heard Tate 228 was at Grip's release party. Okay. When the locks played. Off of the I Died for This Project. Shout out to him, and I was just like, who the fuck is that guy? I appreciate that. And then I heard jail pose. Yes, sir. And I was seriously like, who the fuck is that guy? Then I obviously just fell in love with you as an artist. Like those two are two of my favorite grip records. I appreciate that. Which, like, shout out to you because you're on both of my two. bands. I appreciate that. Because I love grip too, but like we got some more coming, man. Yeah. We got some more on the way. Yeah, I mean, so like, what do you think works so well about you and Grip on a record? Shit, to be honest, bro. I feel like it's natural chemistry just because we really kick it. Like, for me, that was that's another thing. Like, a lot of people, like, well, I here recently I guess I've been doing a lot more, but I've been paying.

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But I ain't got I don't really do a lot of features like that. Just because like if I don't really know you, like, yeah, matter of fact, let me say this. Because people be hitting me up for features and shit. If it makes sense, we can do it for sure. But in in real time, like if you want to do some music with me, you got a better chance of like bumping into me or like coming to some shit that we doing and like really like. Becoming friends first. It's like I don't be liking to just do shit with people. Cause a lot of motherfuckers be weird, bro. Like a lot of people be weird, and I ain't really with all that. Like, I I started rapping at 22. Like, I ain't I ain't this ain't been a dream my whole life. Yeah. This is something I want like a motherfucker now, but like this ain't nothing I I dreamed of versus like I've been a regular person way longer than I've been a rapper. You know what I'm saying? Which which I found that interesting, man, of like you starting so late.

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Yeah. Like, what made you finally give it a shot at 22 years old? People used to always like tell me, like, bro, you need to rap. That's like cliche too. I hear a lot of rappers say that, but like, people used to always tell me that shit, like, bro, you need to rap. Was it because of the voice? Nah, like, I think it was just. You write poems or something. Hell nah. Hell nah. I ain't never do none of that. So what why why why do you think they were recommending you rap? Between, like, so like when you used to be in the neighborhood, like people would be like kicking it outside by the cars, and then like you got like the two, three homeboys that like rap for real or whatever. Yeah. And they might go to freestyle or some shit. And nigga smoking or whatever. And then you just jump in and something like that. Like, oh damn, bro, that sounds good, bro. Like, so the circles you were in, it was already set up for you to kind of start. Yeah. And then just like how we was already moving around, like it was like, shoot, man, might as well be a rapper. And for me, it at the time, it was like, hell nah, cause all my homeboys that I knew was rapping, wasn't doing shit.

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So yeah, so you looked at it as like a failing profession versus like. Hell nah. Then I'm like, if I did it, I'm like, bruh, I ain't finna do it like y'all. Like, I ain't finna be rapping like y'all. like I don't know how that, you know, I'm like, I don't know what that look like, but I'm like, it ain't gonna look like what y'all doing. I don't need a 25 check from Spotify. You know what I'm saying? So like for me, like when I when I I think really it was like, let me do it, I I ended up getting in trouble quite naturally. Uh what were you a big troublemaker growing up? Nah, man. I ain't really getting in trouble growing up. Until until this. Nah, nah, I I did a lot of trouble. Okay. But I ain't getting a lot of trouble. Okay. It's not trouble if you don't get caught. You feel me? Like, we up. no face, no case. No, man. We weren't the way that got away with it. There you go. But uh nah, like my brother was like the troublemaker. Like he got into a lot of little stupid ass trouble. Like just talking too much in school, like shit like that. I ain't I ain't I ain't getting shit like that.

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Like uh when I I got nine, once I got, you know, a little older. The luck ran out. Nah, nah, nah. I'm trying to tell you how to put the shit. I'm like, he's like my lucky streak ended with a big fat case. Nah, so. I I wanna say, and I'm gonna be honest, it was just perfect time. I just put it like fair enough. Every time, and Like some shit, some shit that I I had got a ticket. Okay. I got a ticket. So like that's that's that's why I say I wasn't I wasn't no troublemaker. Like uh I I ain't get in trouble. There you go. Like that. Right. I ain't getting a lot of trouble. But you know, I'm imagining like a seven over speeding ticket or something. Like the way he's like playing it up. It's like a very minor infraction. Definitely wasn't. I'd be real. They got me for the seatbelt, man. I rolled through a stop sign, God damn it. The seatbelt shit, they used to get me for that all the time. Like when I first moved up here from like 16 to like 18, I probably got like 10 seatbelt tickets.

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Damn. So where it was like, I don't never drive without a seatbelt no more. Like now it's if you're holding your phone, that's the new seatbelt. Yeah, because that was the stupidest ticket. Them tickets were $75. I used to get me every time. Just to frustrate you. Just enough to frustrate you. Bro, I'm like, I ain't never doing that stupid shit no more. But so that that wasn't the issue. But now I was speeding. I I was blowing it, bro. I ain't gonna lie. I was I was going and I was and I wasn't even in Georgia. I was going through Alabama, and I might have been doing like probably like 110. God was going crazy. He had somewhere to be. Yeah, going to Mississippi, bro. I'm getting the fuck home. I'm going to Mississippi. And the fucking hitting like doing probably like 110. I had rented at a goddamn challenger or some shit. And just hitting it and got got stopped in Evergreen, Alabama. You know, shout out everyone. Sounds racist. You know what I mean? So like, shout out to that police. If you ever come across this shit, that's stopping in evergreen.

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Yeah. Quick side note. Uh, how do you feel about Dodge not making chargers and challengers anymore? I think that's crazy. It's kind of crazy, right? Yeah, it was like if Jordan's stopped making Jordan. We're not doing shoes anymore. It's like, what the fuck? If This is your main selling. Well, I don't know. I'm assuming it's a big seller. I see a bunch of money. The Ram, at least here in Atlanta. Ram is 100% a top product for sure. Yeah, like it gotta be a top product. You know what I'm saying? So like to discontinue to stop making is like, for what? Yeah. That's crazy. People buying this shit. Why the fuck would you do that? bro? yeah, I don't understand. so you're booking it, you're booking it through Alabama. Mr. Officer pulls up. Get a stupid ticket regularly. Like, and he could have really did something, I feel like. So shout out to him. But he still gave me a ticket. You know what I'm saying? And I forgot. I was young. I completely forgot about that shit. Kept going. Cause he didn't do shit. Like he gave me a ticket, but he could have really like took me to jail and all that. And he was just like, I'm gonna give you this ticket.

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Gave me the ticket. I booked in Mississippi. Would come back and just wasn't thinking about the shit. Like, just out of sight, out of mind. And then that might've that's my first speeding ticket, too. I could that was my first speed ticket. Oh, wow. My first speeding ticket. So I just ain't getting in much trouble, bro. Until you didn't show up for court. So that's where that shit got physical. You know what I'm saying? So I forgot. I guess I ain't think about the shit. And I was here. And doing, I can say it, I was doing something I shouldn't have been doing. You had a warrant that you didn't know about. Exactly. Mm-hmm. And it kind of played into my favor. I guess, because what I could have got in trouble for was way more serious. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Interesting. So yeah, so the fact that that didn't happen, like I still ended up going to jail, quite naturally, because I got a warrant. Driving on suspended license and all that shit. But um, they they suspended, they had my shit uh held in Alabama for that shit, and then it was transferring to Georgia.

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So I was going through all that shit, and so my license was suspended, couldn't really drive and shit. So I was just like, fuck, bro. Stuck in the crib. I'm like, shit, I got nothing to do. Got a little money. I just went on Google and went to uh, I think it was musician friend, and like bought a bunch of studio equipment. Yeah, I bought a computer, bought all the shit and watched videos on YouTube on how to record and just learned how to rap. Wow. Because I ain't had it was like shit. Until I figured all this shit out, this legal shit, it was like, let me just focus on something, bro. So you picked up like recording, learning how to record yourself at the same time that you picked up rapping. Mm-hmm. You didn't, you weren't like rapping and you had to figure out how to record it. I wrote my first song. Let me start all this. I wrote my first song after I learned how to record a song. Wow. How would you rate that first song? Horrible. Horrible. It was bad. Oh wow.

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It was bad. I wanted to quit. I was like, oh wow. Because that shit felt so bad, bro. Because I sat in that room for like two weeks, man. I sat in that room for like two weeks, just watching videos on YouTube with, like how to record and how to, and I still was trash, but I I got it down packed enough to that, like, hell, I know how to use this shit. Like now I can at least navigate on Pro Tool. Then it's like, all right, bet I got it. And then I went through the process of trying to write some shit. Man, I Damn. I was gonna waste All this money. And it wasn't even worth, probably like a thousand dollars. But it was like, you know, wasted this money. Well, we're we're glad you you stuck with it. Yeah, exactly. Very glad. So, so like who were you even looking at as like influences, right? To even start. Like, you know, what I mean, like, like, like, who were some of your favorite artists growing up, for example? Nah, nah. See, that probably was the reason why I felt like I knew I could do it though, because I, me and my brother, we was music, like, we music kids. Like, we ain't had a cable growing up.

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So, like, all we did was listen to the radio. Like, okay. We used to be making tapes of the radio, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I ain't old like that to show you how how broke we was. You know what I'm saying? Like, we were making tapes on the radio, and uh, we used to call in and shit back when like you could request, like, hey man, play such and such. And we were like, they finna play it and buy a photo song, and I'm a catch this bitch. Oh, that was my favorite thing too. I would call into the fucking 955 the beat radio station all the time. I remember one, I was probably like 12 years old. I called in to request Missy Elliott, get your freak on, and they were fucking with me, right? To have like a little bit for the radio. They were like, What? You want us to get our freak on? What are you talking about? Like, they're just fucking with me. Yeah. And then we're ending up like going in the car to just drive somewhere to dinner or some show with my with my family. Right. Have the radio on. And they played me getting fucked with. I had no idea that I was actually going to make it on, having requested the song. It was hilarious. And, like, I'll never forget that moment. Did they play the song? They played, of course. Missy Elliott,

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get your freak on. Yeah. It was a smash. I was about to say, They wouldn't play anything, but if you're requesting the smash, they would have. Yeah, it was it was in constant rotation. Yeah. Because I was similar. Like I was just huge music lover. That's how we did. So like I feel like me and my brother, we knew every fucking song on the radio. Were we all requesting who was your favorites? Who'd you know every word to it? It was it was so it depended on the time frame, bro. Like, throw it a couple, telling me like we ain't have cable, so this is what you had to get. Yeah. Just top top 40 all the time. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna say, whatever you go to the year, Mariah, yeah, whatever the fuck was hot. Nelly, Usher, yeah. Like, whoever was hot. Ludacris. I remember going to college requesting Ludacris shit. That motherfucking word of mouth, shit off of that. Yeah, so that gave you that gave you like a good frame of reference for at least like songs and like what you know, hit songs sound like the components of them, right? And I think it just like it made me. I think it just gets so used to being a rapper, like as like an actual rap, like just rapping, like hearing the word come out your mouth, like the physical motion of singing or rap, like saying words to music.

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Talking in rhythm, yeah, for real. To music. My brother, we could like I know for me for sure, but like we like looking up the lyrics, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I love doing that. Yeah, so like I knew word for word, twister songs, like certain songs just like wording. you know what I'm saying? So, it's, like all that kind of shit. I feel like helped me today. Like when I look, back, I'm like, because people be saying this shit, like, damn, bro, you singing like you grabbed this shit pretty fast. Yeah, I'm thinking, like, shit. I guess it was just more room for the shit, just due to listen to so much goddamn music. Like, I like I say, I'm a I'm a music fan first before a rapper. Like, even now, like I listen, I listen to everybody, bro. Do you go back far enough to when Genius was rap genius? Mm-hmm. Because that's when I was looking up all the lyrics on rap genius. Rap genius, when it was the uh it was like on brown, yeah, the different colors and shit. Yeah, they're yellow now. Yeah, but yeah, but I remember the lyrics being in the in the CDs too. That was like the best part of like looking through the like you know, the liner notes, and shit, you know, I'm going to AZ lyrics, AZ lyrics, that's crazy.

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Goddamn. I had AZ bookmarked, yeah, for sure, all that shit, just because I know my mind, I'm like, nigga, I gotta know. Because if we had TV, it's like shit. I got to know yeah, word on this song, bro. When this bitch come on. That's crazy. I remember seeing some of the lyrics, like, were wrong and, like, submitting, like, correct, trying to, like, help them. I ain't never give a fuck to do that, but I used to see that shit be like, no, who's stupid ass thought he said snail instead of tail. Man, I still have like famous songs where like I'm finding out what they actually said, Totally. and I'm like, oh shit, man. I can't believe I thought that they said this. I'm about to say that's the thing, man. Yeah, so so how do you start moving around though? Like, you know what I mean? Like, what what were you doing to get your name out there once you like got past this shitty first song and you decided to actually like keep going? Like, how's the come up happening? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, what were you doing to put yourself out there? And like, you know what I mean? I wasn't doing shit. I was in the crib with, because at the time I was so whack, bro. In my mind, you know what I'm saying?

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My mind, it's like after that first song, that shit was so whack. I probably like quit for like three weeks. You know what I'm saying? And then it was like, all right, get back to it, bro. You ain't gonna just quit. Spend all this money. And then, too, shout out to my boy Flock O'L. Like, if y'all watching this, look up Flock O'L. He'll battle rapper now. But like, bro, it was like the coldest shit I had ever seen at that time, because he was so young. Like, and he wasn't even that young, but I would probably like, I had to be 21. So Flock had to be like, he was in high school, so he might have been like 17. Flock. Put it in the comments if you see this. I told you, but he I know he was in high school or some shit. I know that for sure. So you see the young kid floating on beats, and you're like, damn. Nah, this motherfucker, he had already went viral. That nigga had put that shit still gotta be on YouTube. That nigga had this, like, he had this like Soulja 1, I wanna say like Roscoe Dash. And I know it's cold. Let's go with

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my dog too. It's cold. That was the shit back then. He did shout out. We don't mean it, Scoe. Yeah, yeah. We love Scoe. But, like, he yeah, yeah. We love Scoe. But like, yeah, he was trying to go viral, you know, on some young shit. Yeah. And he did, and he that shit had just did like crazy numbers. Like, I can't remember how many views it was, but that shit went crazy. And like he stayed right next door. And I'm like, damn, bro, your ass hard as motherfucking shit. So I was just like, shit, all right, little bro, doing this shit. Like, let's stick to it. And uh star just kept going and he was listening to certain shit. Then my boy Slim, um, who else used to be out there? Uh Mufi, uh, shit. Everybody was just there, check shit out from time down quite naturally. Like all my partners, like my brother, motherfucking my niggas, and uh dirty to fucking Ant, everybody, Wes. everybody was out there, but this shit hard, whoop the whoop. And uh I wanna say me and Flock did a song. Flock hit me like, let's do a song. And when he hit me to do that, and my mind, I'm like, damn, he must think that nigga must think my shit hard,

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like I must be getting better. Like, I know he hard. Like, so he hit me, like, bro, let's do a song, and it was for his shit. So I'm like, oh, shit, yeah. Uh so we did the record and shit, and the shit came out good. I was like, oh damn, I I even impressed myself. I was like, shit, damn, bro, you got them got to know. And uh If I must say so myself. He's like, oh yeah, that shit was great. He was like Ah, yeah, I got it. For real. That's that song, that's a song called Hollywood, which I'll never probably hear, but yeah. I'm finding we'll link it down below. I'm finding it. Flock, I need that record. But yeah, like, so uh Flock really, Flock, that's that's why I didn't like to this day. And he know this shit, but like to this day, like that's my that's my nigga. Cause like I I feel like everything happened for a reason. Like, if if you open this door for me, and I walk out there, like if you just happen to like, hey, I got you, open the door, and I walk out there and find a million dollars. I gotta give you something because all of these like actions led up to that.

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Like, I feel like you would definitely in some kind of way in the universe was like influential to that moment. All right, so if you leave the studio today and go make a hit record with grip, because I know you're going to the studio with them. Do I get publishing at least? Like I might have to get a couple facilities. Okay. A couple, Two and a half. I'm just using your own logic. I'm for real. No, no, no, but this is my real thoughts. I'm telling you. like, this is how I really look at shit. But yeah, so like him living next door or what? Nah, so like he, so like he was already moving around and doing shit. Yeah. And he had uh, he had uh a fucking uh cypher he was doing and he needed a ride. And he was like, shit, bro, you gonna take me up to this the cypher shit. I'm like, yeah, I got you. And went up. On some big bro shit, like just you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, bro, I got you, I ain't gonna worry about it. Yeah. Went up there, shout out to KD Gray, because he was doing it was the dude shooting it. KD Gray, motherfucking masterpiece, mastermind. Yeah, shout out KD Gray. Uh he was shooting the cypher. and um, I wanna say when we get up there, like nobody really there. Like, we got there on time and shit. I was late a little bit today, but that's shit going

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over. I usually be on time, so we got there on time. We'll forgive you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We've had people way later than you, right? Yes, we have. We got there on time and shit, and we waiting, and then Flock was just like, bro, you you should get in this shit. I was like, hell no, but this is your shit. I'm finna drop you out. I'm gonna get the fuck on. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, nah, bro. man, right. I'm like, nah, bro. I ain't fucking with this shit. Like, he was like, for real, bro. just kidding. man, you ain't even got a trip. I'm like, I know you harder than me. you know, these motherfuckers out here, like jump in this shit. And I was like, shit, I know, boy, and I see what's up. And we got out there, and KD Gray was just like, shit, yeah, you right. Like, shit, jump in. And I was like, shit, all right, bet. And everybody went. And I'm thinking, like, shit, all right, like nobody ever cued me to rap. And then like right towards the end, he was like, he just started like cuing me in. I was like, shit, bet.

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And I started rapping, killed that motherfucker. Yeah, I can go look that cypher up. KD Gray, uh, I can't remember. KD Gray cypher. Just type that in. Okay. KD Gray, Tate 228, Cypher. Yeah, you'll see that shit. Flock O'L on there. My boy Mike Bars on there, Hell yeah. But uh Fiend, uh, he goes by uh he changed the name now. Damn, my bad Fiend. I can't think of the new name he'll forgive you. Yeah, my bad, bro. Damn, and it just crossed through my head again. And then I lost it. I hate when that happens. But, yeah, everybody in that motherfucker cypher, and and like I felt like niggas was like, bro, you killed that bitch. Like everybody was like, bro, you killed it, bro. Like, you and I was like, oh, for real. And then that led me to meet like all them guys. And then Mike Bars, I think he invited me to an event he was doing. And then like once I got out there, it was just like, you know, like event to event to event to event. It's a waterfall effect.

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Yeah, so like more cyphers, showcases, kind of like that. The next cypher I did was my boy Mike Sick Cypher, uh Savage fan. Like, he do um, he used to do like uh like uh uh annual type of event. I forget the name of it, bro. I'm hot, bro. I promise. It ain't like that. You know how I fuck with y'all. But Mike Sick, his um the bar exam. Oh yeah, I remember bar exam. Of course, that's an attachment, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. Oh man, it's coming back. Louis Win. Yeah, the bar exam. Uh I did, I did the first, I won it, I had to be the first one. First bar. exam. Wow. And I won that bitch. Wow, you won the first ever bar exam? Mike Sick. Get in the comments if you see that. I'm the first bar exam champion. Wow. Bro, well, I mean, we just did our first one more time cypher. Oh, and we had some dope, lyricists on there. You might be you might be in the running to uh to be a part of our next one. I I actually seen um a clip at uh surf.

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Surf, Ben Riley, Ben Riley, yeah, Jace. Oh yeah, Jace killed it. But Jace killed it on some I never got in one of the two. a bop on the air. That shit was hard, yeah. But Ben Riley and Surf the boy, it's hard. and then even uh my other boy East Rich. East rich, yeah. They all went hard, man. Yes, sir. Now that you've been on the podcast, you're officially eligible for a one more time cypher. Yeah, I'm sorry for that for sure. Might have to set that up, you know what I'm saying? Most definitely. So Jive is your latest release as of this date. Right, right. Okay, and it's arguably easily the biggest, right? It's going crazy. Yeah. I don't know. You know, we were just talking about the video, Amazing record. video is crazy. Love the song. Um just the beat, Shout out to. shout out to man, fucking incredible. Put a foot in that. Your performance on the track, absolutely legendary. Shout out to two. What do you think about that record though? Because I mean, I've listened to arguably like you know, your other two tapes that are on streaming, your other singles, whatever.

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Like, what do you think it is about that song specifically that's having it go? Or is it part of the release, like the rollout? Like, you know, what I mean, like, why is this one doing so well? Would you say? That's a good question. Uh, if I'm being real, this shit sound cliche, but like I timing is a big thing, I think. Just be honest, like, because the longer you do anything, like the more the relationships that you have become, I guess, like substantial or beneficial or more beneficial, you know, like so. I feel like that helped like a motherfucker, like just timing in general. And then I wanna say we picked up some like decent steam last during the pandemic. Because like I was releasing like some little freestyles, then me and Tua and Joey. We put out the mask in the bucket, and then Grip was going crazy at that time, and then I was on his shit.

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Mm-hmm. And so like Some momentum. yeah, like all that just went together. Because like even when we released Jive, like that shit went to like certain playlists. And I feel like like it ain't it, it was just they they selected it to put it on certain playlists, and I feel like that was just honestly because of the algorithm of me being already on grip shit. Mm-hmm. And they just relating artists to artists, and it's like, okay, well, cool. It sounds dope. And I think like shit like that helped like a motherfucker. And then two, a pre-plan before I release. Yeah. So more thought went into it. The funny part is no. Okay. But right? But the plan was there. Because like, a lot of shit just didn't go right. Like, that was what me and Tua were just talking about today. But that's classic. Yeah, that's just music business. Like, you gotta, you gotta be ready for the audible. Like, you gotta always be ready for the audible.

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So, like, like I say, back to the timing shit, the shit that we had in in plan, in place didn't go right. You know what I'm saying? But maybe like a month later, that shit came together. And then, like, I think it did so good in that time. Like, that's what we realized, like, after the fact, like, damn, this shit did so good before we put the plan in place. It was like, well, shit, this shit gonna be real good once we do that. And then once we put the shit in place, it was like, okay, it was real good. Yeah, and we was able to get it on here, get it on there. It was like, okay, it was on this playlist, It was on this person's shit. Then you kind of start seeing that traction. Like, people hitting me up on Twitter and Instagram getting followers, uh, YouTube, subscribers going up, and then he like, Okay, cool, now it's working. Do you feel like it's your best song to date? Or not even? Um, best song to date. Because some artists are the classic of like my newest shit's my best shit. Like, I'm always leveling up, whatever.

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Like, do you feel that this is your best, you know, piece of work? If I could if I answer that truthfully, I gotta say no. Because if I think like what you just said, then that's giant new to y'all. And that's old news to you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, if what you saying, and I don't really feel like that, but to a degree, I do feel like, because I'm still learning, I'm still getting better. So in my mind, like the music getting better, I'm getting more comfortable with trying this, doing that, playing with this sound. And I feel like, yeah, shit, definitely getting better. Like, I feel like it's it's in my mind, it's better song on the album than Job. So basically, there's but Job is his own record, too. Yeah. That's the other thing. Like a singles. That was the last, that was the last record we did for the album. Okay. Like, two, yeah. So we were talking about two. Two, you're gonna see this. Of course. Two had another beat pick to end the album.

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And I was like, that ain't it, too. And this is the upcoming album you're speaking of, right? That album that we're about to drop. Oh, you're about to drop. Okay. okay. Hell yeah. Yeah, I was about to say the name, I ain't gonna do that. Oh, we need it one more time, exclusive, bro. It's actually out there, but you just got to know. Oh, come on. You just got to, it's actually in the job video. You just gotta know what it is. Well, just let's let them know here. Yeah, for the dumbasses out there and us, the true fans that are watching this of yours get to know first. It'll still be like low key. Yeah, right, right, right. This shit can be. You know, the album is called Contact Sport. Ooh, wow. CS. Beautiful. CS. One more time exclusive-ish. On One More Time first, right? one more time first, but yeah. Two, two had uh two had another beat pick. I was like, two, this ain't the damn beat, bro. This shit two, it's too slow. We be going back and forth about shit. And he it was another song on the album that I didn't like. And he we went back and forth about that, and I let him have it.

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I was like, all right, I'm gonna do the record. They're like, I need this one. It's my turn. Exactly. This is what I like too. This ain't it, bro. Yeah, and I'm not budging, bro. I let you have that one. Got to go make another record. Get back in the lab. Exactly. I'm like, you gotta go make something else, bro. This ain't it. I'm like, I want the album to end like in a triumphant way. I'm like, I need that shit to feel great. Like the the way the album would end it with that, it was like typical in my mind, like just some cool smooth shit. Yeah, like yeah, like the coast out versus the like peace the fuck out, bitch. Riding in the driveway. Exactly. Speeding down the highway with the bad bitch. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So like I like that approach better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, too. You know what I'm saying? But he he he he went with it. Like he was like, all right, cool. I fought you on the other one. You let me get it. I'm gonna give you this one. And shit, he was like, all right, bet. He went to the house, and then, and then too, it was there's a lot of pressure under it too, because I had already set up the session but like the last session so like the session was already booked on like for like that Sunday I wanna say Sunday morning at like 10 30 and we was this is a session that we might have been in on like a Friday night so like you gotta make this beat and I gotta write this shit yeah so we can go like the shit already booked so like he I don't I don't know what the fuck he was going through You know what I'm saying like as far as like thinking about it but he said it was an older record that he had to like change some things but I think when he came across it he just heard like the sounds was like I think this is he text me like I I think I got it I I think I got it I'm like yeah right send me this shit and he sent it and I was like oh yeah okay yeah this is it there's something about like when the pressure is on and when you have a deadline that forces creatives to like get real creative and get in their bag like if you put something about constraints I wrote that song that morning there you go because you had to, yeah, and like I finished, I like and Cyhi, shout out to my nigga Cyhi. Cyhi pulled up. That was Cyhi. Yeah. Cyhi the Prynce. he pulled up to that session the last one because he was gonna hit an album and like I finished writing that shit probably like 20 minutes before he got to the studio. Wow that's awesome went in there mashed that motherfucker and voila, yeah, out came Job. Yeah. And it's hilarious to us that Cyhi is also a big part of like you know your you know so yeah your artistry now for sure.

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When did that relationship start? Shit, like early, bro. Like that shit was crazy too. I think that's the other shit that that made me like keep rapping. Because like, like I said, I thought I was trash when I started. Then when I was like, I think I'm good. I kept getting like them instant little confirmation. So like when I first kind of was like, all right, cool. And then Flacco, he told me to come to the cypher, and then they were like, oh bro, you killed it. And then I put out, I put out like three video shots of my boy Kalanji. Kalanji. Visions by Kalanji. Go follow my boy. We had shot like three videos. It was like the first videos I had ever shot. And um, it was a site. I can't even think of the fucking name of the site. But the site, it was, it was, it was what I think of now, it was already this so this was what I look back and say, this site had to be like pre-testing what's going on on YouTube now. Like with the ads.

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Cause like this site was just making the video pop up places. Like we just uploaded it to this site and the video was just popping up. They were putting it out to people. Yeah. And Cyhi was on his way to, I think he said Europe or some shit. And he was trying to watch uh some sports shit, like ESPN or some shit. And it popped, my video popped up on the ad like behind, him, like 30 videos. And he said he was just trying to click shit off, but the music playing in your ear. And it's just like by the time he get to clicking everything off, he gets to like the video on you're like man, it's kind of hard. That's how he discovered you. Yeah, he was like, Wow. This shit's kind of hard. And he he hit me on motherfucking uh Twitter. He was like, if anybody know at Tate228, tell him I think this shit's hard. Wow. Man, Cyhi's become like a meme on this podcast at this point. It just keeps popping up, dude. It's amazing. That's probably my that's probably my favorite Cyhi story, though. That is an amazing. Cyhi, you gotta pull up, man. Come on. Cyhi. What's up? Cyhi, we're on your ass, man.

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We need you on the podcast. One more time. For sure. One more time. Pull up one more time. And you already agreed in a comment on one of our posts. Yeah. I'm here. Come on, man. Exactly. And Tate's telling you to pull up. So what's the nature of your relationship with him now? I'm I'm my dog. Shit. I just talked to him probably like two weeks ago. Yeah, but do you guys have records together? Like do you write together? You know what I mean? Like, you know, kind of describe, like, you know, other than being, you know, close friends now at this point. Like, it's another exclusive for me. One more time. Yeah, we need it. I'm gonna give you a one more time exclusive. One more time. Hey! Let's go. Shout out. Shout out. He's on CS. Man, we got the name of the album. We got a fucking ridiculous feature. Man, we could just end the episode right now and it'd be fucking legendary. No, that's that's amazing. So, so obviously, you know, featured. I mean, you know, do you guys write together? Like, have you written, you know, with him or for him or anything? Never written for him. come on, you can't write for the ghostwriter.

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That's what I figured. He is the writer. He's the writer. You can't write for the ghostwriter. More like has he written for you. Definitely not. Because they can't nobody do this shit either, man. Like, hold on, man. He picked me for a reason. Yeah. He seen, I got the Jedi Mind trick, like, him. you know what I'm saying? But nah, uh, he definitely done put me in positions to like write on records with people and shit. Nah, I I don't feel like nothing I done did and got selected, if I'm being honest. But like, I done been not yet. Yeah, not yet. Not yet. And then two, I can't lie. You know how these records can come out of the fucking woodwork, man. And then two, I ain't gonna lie, like we did a lot. So, like, he gave me an opportunity to come like do some writing um when they was doing all them damn albums with good music. Like, everybody was doing like a seven track album. Yeah. Uh Pusha did one, Cuddy, Ye. Yep, yep. Tiana. And then Ye and Cuddy did one together. Yeah, I went out there during that time to LA and I was able to like be in a lot of those sessions and like do a lot of like writing on Tiana album that they didn't even use.

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They ended up like holding it out, but it was still like a dope ass experience. Like when they go to like the um listening session and all that, you know, just kind of get to get to see the music business at like a high level. For sure. When I was still just trying to figure shit out, you know what I'm saying. So like that shit really helped me to be able to apply to my structure. And I know your bars, so if you keep doing it, I think it's only a matter of time. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. But then too, like, like I say, uh the uh I feel like the shit that I I was able to get from like side was like a lot of game. You know what I'm saying? So like even to be able to maneuver in them structures like that. You know what I'm saying? Like it's it's deeper, like a lot of people. I done I done been there with certain other artists. And a lot of people think like it's just music and it ain't, you know what I'm saying? Like, you gotta be able to know how to navigate the situation more than how good you is as a writer. So like that's what I probably picked up from bro more than anything.

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Mm-hmm. Like that's how to like be in a room and, oh, we just we just talked about this with, with uh Mike Norris, who I was referencing earlier, is like, you know, he works with you, you know, a Fireman who did seven records on Donda or some shit, and like he's seen so many got a bunch of tattoos and shit. Yeah. Shout out to Fireman. I just met him the other day. Shout out to Fireman. Okay, yeah, he was well, yeah, he's been in the city for like the last like couple weeks or something. Um, and so yeah, he's probably been in sessions that you've maybe stumbled across. But if it's who I'm thinking, he was with my boy Scotty, so yeah, shout out to Fireman. Shout out to Scotty HL. Yeah, shout out Scott Scotty HL. Yeah, yeah. Shout out Scotty. Shout out to Freddy. Yeah, he was probably wearing like a kimono of sorts. He has something on his head for sure. Like, yeah, but yeah, he has like long blonde dreads and shit. Yeah, I think that was him. Yeah, but I was I was high there too. Well, yeah, he was probably saying something like, Hello. That's that's what he said like ten times. But anyways, so the point that Mike was making though, that I think you're making is that you can be the most talented songwriter, you can be the most talented producer, artist, whatever. But if you're fucking weird in the room, and if people don't rock with you, you're not getting invited back.

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Yeah, you can't be too cool for school. Like, that's that's the number one thing. Like, you definitely can't be too cool for school. Like, you gotta be able to know how to blend, you know what I'm saying. At the same time, you can't be over uh zealous, you know what I'm saying? Like, we just gotta know how to play, you know, you gotta play chess, right? Yeah, but you also gotta add value. Yeah, and that that's something. I'm glad you said that, Russell. You know, you can't just be paint a fly on the wall or something either. Which is a problem for some people, they get like nervous or like see, that's the key, which you just said because like even even like verbatim, like side and said that like we done like make sure we add value in these rooms, woo-doo woo-woo. But the thing is, I don't think people understand what the value is. Like, because when you say that, you like add value. I think the average artist just instantly go to like they writing ability or like they singing ability or whatever. Like, I mean, it's like, nah, you just gotta add value. You could be, you could be the funny person in the room, yeah. Yeah, you could be the guy that brings the most weed.

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And it's like, oh, oh, we need some water. Oh, I got some right here. right here. Yeah, no, literally. I just talked about this with one of the artists that we work with. I was like, bro, value is such a fucking like high-level fluffy word. I hate it somewhat, to be honest. It's so fucking annoying because people say it all the time. But if you figure out what the fuck it is that you're bringing to the table, and to your point, maybe it is sometimes that you are the coldest fucking writer. Sometimes you're not. Maybe you have the coldest melodies. Maybe you can input like on you know bars that are missing or like flow or cadence, whatever the fuck, right? But oftentimes it's those intangibles that aren't even directly related to the fucking music sometimes. Because when you're in these rooms, everyone's good. I was about to say, when you're in these rooms, to be good is fucking table stakes. Everybody good. As good as you are, you're in the room with Cyhi the Prince. You're fucking just either, you know, whatever. He's brought, I don't know how you rank yourself with him, but whatever. Y'all are probably going fucking, you know, toe to toe. No, He's the man. He's the greatest.

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But I'm just saying, even still. I ain't got 10,000 hours in it like my brother. So like he's probably got a few more Grammys. 25,000. got a few more Grammys than you. I wake up every day. All right, two. This is another thing. Not two, my boy, but one, two. Shout out him too, Shout out to two. But like, not to even cut you off. No, you're good. Just about side. Yeah. For all the artists, too. This is some shit I learned from, brother. I still that I'm still trying to master. That's why I say this. Bro, wake up every day and write. Like how certain people get up and like drink coffee or like exercise. Like, that's his exercise. He get up and write. Mm-hmm. It's a fucking muscle, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't do that. yet. It's a skill. I try to as much as I can, but like, I'm talking about every day. And I done seen this shit with my eyes. Like, bro, get up and pull up his laptop. And you be thinking like a nigga just over there surfing or some shit. Like he over there writing lyrics. And like uh after about 20 minutes, he's been on eight breakfast or something. I'm Like, hey, what you think of this? And then he's like, damn, you

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was just doing that. Like, fuck, I been sitting here rolling the blood. Like, I thought you were checking your email. I've been over here smoking some weed and you've been writing. Like, you should have told me I could have started writing some shit. Man, that's awesome. I mean, that goes to show, like, you know, putting in that work really can pay off. Nah, that's what made me like buckle down though. Like, like, even like that situation I'm speaking of, like at that time, that was when we was in LA out there working on them albums. We was out there for a long span of time. Yeah. So I got to see that shit in like real time. And it was just like, oh no, bro, you gotta go harder. Like this motherfucker, this nigga, he's straight. Like, I'm seeing it. Like, he good. Kanye and all these people calling him, like, he good. And he get up every day and write. Yeah. Like, oh yeah, you gotta turn it up, bro. You gotta turn it up. No, it's cool to see someone outside of just the studio to see their actual work ethic, right? Because some people call work ethic of just like, how hard are you working when you're in the studio? Like, how many songs can you do?

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I just saw some fucking producer guy and post about like, you know, work ethic equating to like number of songs done, which I completely disagree with. But neither here nor there. The point is is that you saw this dude in his fucking wild habitat, like his natural habitat of just waking up in his fucking Airbnb or wherever the fuck hotel wherever y'all were staying. Stoke that Airbnb too, right? I know what I'm saying I'm already knowing. But the point is that like you're thinking he's just fucking cool and you know, you know, dicking off on his computer, like right when he wakes up, sipping his coffee. But no, he's literally putting in that's real work ethic. And there's a reason why he's arguably one of the greatest writer, greatest writers of our time. Nah, for sure. Yeah, bro, we're earning that shit. Yeah. Put the time in. It continues to do it. Real talk. No. That's chilling. That's beautiful. So it sounds like you know, contact sport is on the way. Anything else you want to make sure that the people are you know looking out for? Uh yeah. Um, shit. We're gonna drop another single. Okay. Is that gonna be from the project too? Yup.

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Okay. And I might drop another single. Oh, he might be on your asses with singles for the project. I got a song with Fleetwood Fred that I might end up. Shout out Fleetwood Fred one. time. Super dope artist. And he gave me a lot of game on Mr. Tate 228 here. I appreciate that. Yeah. So I got one with Fred that I might end up dropping, and uh, well, I'm gonna drop it. It's just like time-wise. Yeah. I probably figured. But then I got I got another one uh with Scotty, Scotty ATL. Shout out. Shout out to Scotty. Going crazy grills by Scotty. And I got some shit with Grip. Yes. We need that. You know what I'm saying it's just like just figuring out like when to drop it. Two, that's what me and two were just talking about literally when I pulled up. Like just trying to figure out like what to drop. He he trying to hold shit out. If y'all wait for the album, hit Too up. Hit a two. It's his fault. So I'm ready to drop the shit, bruh. He bullshitting, you know what I'm saying? Y'all know how Too is. If you know Too, you know how Too is Well, you should know Too.

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He's a podcast alumni, episode 52, if I remember correctly. I remember we had a two. Because there was a two pun thing that we had going on. So that was perfect. Facts. You know what I mean? But yeah, so if we don't get the project soon enough, everyone spam twos, comments, and DMs, and make sure that we drop that Tate 228 project. Yeah, come follow me at Tate228. Go follow my Spotify. Yeah, go subscribe to my YouTube. Yeah, go goddamn. Nigga. Follow me. Follow his only subscribe to his OnlyFans. My OnlyFans. My get him. Follow me on Snapchat. Get him. Nigga, come get everything. Got it. Get him. For sure. Well, Tate, we have entered a final segment of the podcast. H3. Where the fuck are we at? Oh yeah, but this is where it gets uh this is where it gets a little heated. This is the Rapid Fire Rampage. Rapid Fire. It's gonna be a three-part rampage. Okay. So I'm gonna fire some short answer questions at you. Simple enough.

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And then we're gonna do a little this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices, and you pick one. Super simple. And ending with a word association. I'm gonna give you one word like dog, and then you hit me back with the first word off the top of your head. That's basically like cat. But that's not one, so no teasers. That'd be boring as fuck. No. The words are I definitely wasn't thinking cat. Okay, good. See, this is why we get to get into your brain a little bit. So part one of the Rapid Fire Rampage, episode 71, Tate 228. Let's get it. Rampage! Tate, what motivates you? I'm hot, bro. We started off philosophical. I was about to say, yeah, How deep we getting, though. Just rap it. Nah, like I I'm I get motivated from like a lot of shit. I ain't gonna lie. Like seeing people win. Like when I see other people win, it motivate me because it's like shit. If you did it, I know I can. I like that. I like that. Beautiful. Due to unforeseen circumstances, you are forced to change your artist's name. What do you change it to?

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Did I ask a question? question. You just change the number or like Tate 229. Shit. Man, Tate, Tate the Great. Tate the Great. Okay. I like that. I done heard people say that shit before, so that probably why. You are the great. Okay. Tate the great. Tate, in the next 30 seconds, invent a sport. invent a sport. Slap a motherfucker that's talking stupid when you see him. I love that. Nick. It's amazing. Tate, you just opened a restaurant in Atlanta. What are some of the feature menu items on your restaurant menu? We're gonna definitely have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Ooh. Some kind of classic. Yeah, we gotta have peanut butter and jelly. Okay. Um, we're gonna have. I don't eat meat, so we're gonna have to have like some meat options. Some impossible options.

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Maybe not impossible because I ain't that big on that shit either. Okay. But definitely. Some pescatarian shit? Like use some fish, okay. Use a little fish here. Okay. Use a little fish. So yeah, shit like that. Probably some shrimp tacos. Ooh. Probably like I like, I like uh falafel. Ooh. Okay, okay, a little Mediterranean. Oh yeah, There's going to be some Mediterranean shit on that. I love Mediterranean. All right, okay. Shout out Rodini Park in uh LA. That's what really got me turned out on that Mediterranean shit. Hell yeah. Tate, if you were an emoji, what would you be and why? If I was an emoji, I'd be the bag of money. Hell yeah. Period. Period. How many times has your heart been broken? One time. I still remember. Shout out to her. Shout out to her. We still cool.

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It ain't like that. She know who she is. You're forced to trade lives with someone. Who do you pick? Nobody. I like mine. If you're forced. If I'm forced. Have to. Shit, bruh. That's a hard one. That's with the Jeopardy shit on. Like, uh, if I had to change lives with somebody, man, I'd be somebody in the Bible or something. I don't know. Like, I ain't trained lives. The J-Man himself. You know what I'm saying? The J-Man. I had to go and die for our sins or something. Yo, Jesus has never been called the J-Man. That was always like out of pocket, Henry. I'm looking at these folks, man. I can't pick that. That's all. That's a great answer. That's a great answer. Sure. Tate, who is an artist or band that nobody knows you listen to? Like that secret favorite artist. Favorite. I don't think nobody know what I listen to. So anything. Anyone listen to you? Okay.

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Anything I say in case you know me, anything I gotta say is gonna probably feel like that. So uh shit. What I'm listening to right now. Yeah. I just got out of the car. Well, I ain't gonna say P's because they probably know that I've been posting that on Instagram. Uh currency. Yeah, currency, I've been listening to Spitta for like, years. Shot Spitta. That's what I would listen to when I got. The first song I wrote was on a currency beat. Oh, wow. Perfect. That trash song? Never heard. Never heard that one. that one. Okay. Tate, is a thumb a finger? Not a thumb or thumb. Period. You get free beats for life from any one producer. Who do you pick? That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. Bro, you're going crazy with the Jeopardy music. He's stalling. That's hard. He's gonna stall. There's

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reasons why I can pick plenty of different people, man. Sure. Sure. If I could get one person forever. For free. For free. Yeah, exactly. You might as well pick someone that cost. You know. What I mean? Right. You know what I'm saying? Cause two already. I was like, sorry, too. Your homie rates. He'll understand. Pay, that nigga pay. He'll pay. This is your chance to manifest this shit. bro. I know, but I don't I want to say like three motherfuckers. Well, give us three. Give us three. Probably like Hit Boy. Alchemist. I knew Alchemist was a good thing. I was like, bro, if it's Spitta, come on, you need some alchemists. Gotta have Al. And then two, my first name is Al, man. So I'm yeah, Al, Al. There you go. Let's get it. Is Tate a middle name? or anything? That's a bad name. Okay. Sorry. Well, we did just announce it on the podcast. Nah, but uh, what's it? Hit hit Alchemist and um probably like somebody like ATL Jacob, because he's real versatile. Going crazy.

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Stupid. Yeah, he's on Wicked Money Family with uh Ashley Ashley, who's another dope uh dope producer. She was on the podcast, and yeah, ATL Jacob. That boy got that verse. I done heard like so many different sounds. You always hear. and super young. Super versatile. We're gonna throw the young niggas in there. Sure. Hell yeah. Tate, you are plugged into the matrix and can instantly learn any one skill. What do you choose? Any one skill. Something that's already going on, or I can be a superhero. I think, yeah, a superpower is included in the Matrix. I can do anything. Be invisible. Last one of the short answer. Tate, what is your favorite curse word? Shit, I don't know. Y'all tell me. That'll work. Part one of the Matrix. Part one. Great answers. You were very overzealous with the Jeopardy music. He was not even stalling that hard, but. I mean, I think it's reasonable, you know.

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The Jeopardy music is there for its purpose. Yeah. You feel me? I like Jeopardy. Yeah. Moving on to the this or that portion. No problem. Metal guitar type beat or banjo type beat? Metal guitar. Become a singer as in zero rapping allowed. Or leave the music industry. Oh, singer. Shit. I might drop an R&B EP. Let's go. Steal. RB Tate. People got it now. Keys or horns. I like both. Yeah. Keys or horn. Keys, car keys. Melodies or drums. Oh man. You gotta add that knock, man. You gotta add a drum. The drum gonna carry it. So if the drum, because I done heard some fire ass beats with some whack drums, and it'd be like, this ain't it, bro. Ruined it.

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So drums. Stacks or ad-libs? Ad-libs. I had little glow stack. Yeah, I feel like you don't do too many ad libs either. I do, but now when I be on two beats, two be like, man, you don't need an ad. Why This shit sounds so good. We be coming up with it, though. Shout out to eggs or pancakes. Pancakes, man. Tattoos or piercings. Tattoo. On a plane, window seat or aisle seat. I be like in the aisle. Tate, are you going to either get a face tat of a flamingo or eat one spoon of mayonnaise every day forever? Can I put the spoon of mayonnaise on some bread? No. I just eat the motherfucker like cough syrup. Off the spoon. That's the sound nastiness. Man, I like mayo, you know what I'm saying? But not in spoon form. Yeah, get a tattoo, man. Flamingo face tat? Flamingo Tate.

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Okay, wow. I'm just gonna get a smile like back here somewhere. I didn't specify the size. You know what I'm saying? You get it like right here on the side. Like microscopic flamingo like Drake, Drake's tattoo. Be more specific next time. Yeah, I would get a little Drake tat. Get a giant flamingo face tat. Tate, are you gonna have feet for hands or hands for feet? Well, I'd rather have hands for feet. That'll be hard as a motherfucker. That's like a monkey, bro. This is this is a fun one. I'm actually looking forward to this. Are you going to do all of the planning for one of your friend's wedding? Hell no. Or or lose three days off of your life. Oh my god. Shit. You know? It's like well, we definitely plan on a wedding, then if we got to die. Three days earlier. Yeah, fuck that. Planning the wedding? Yeah. We go there. Thank you. He wants to have three days. More life.

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No, but the the wedding planning could take more than three days. You actually might be coming out. But see the thing about that. You know, you're helping a friend. And you're alive. Fuck the friend. Okay. You you you you can make this enjoyable for yourself. Like make it like positive for you. Make it dope. Yeah, you can make this shit enjoyable for you. Like you planning the shit. Just planning where you get the king suite in the hotel or something. If you want to get like this girl, Okay. whoever. Like, yeah, he could choose the table setting too of like where he sits, you know, next to the hot girl. The DJ, whoever the DJ gonna be, get somebody hard. They're gonna be spending some hard shit. You might want to get a party. you know. somebody if you got some money. Get somebody to come through with a name. Yeah. Make that shit a party. Damn. You'd be surprised at the stuff people have like given up time of their lives for on this podcast, though. It's wild. Yeah. Moving on. Y'all better love your life, man. Love life.

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That's what I'm saying. Don't give up your damn life, boy. For no dumb ass shit like that. Speaking of giving up, give up Instagram or give up cheese. Instagram or cheese. Cheese. Cheese. Cheese is gone. Cheese gone. It's tough. I don't know where I stay with that. one. Instagram Make you money. That's true. Cheese just tastes good. Okay, I got another one with Instagram. Get verified on Instagram. Or get free average weed for life. Like okay weed. Free weed. Taking the check. Won't be very good average weed? Like pretty. But it's free forever. Yeah, okay. Fair enough. Eat whipped cream with every meal or erase all whipped cream from birth. Alright. Erase that shit. It's gone. Last one. You like whipped cream? I like whipped cream, but now, who would you do in that situation? I would feel bad that everyone else's whipped cream is also gone. Fuck them. It's gone. It's out of there. Gone.

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Sorry, whipped cream heads. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Last one of the this or that. This one is to gauge your risk tolerance. Okay. You have either A, a 75% chance of contact sport going platinum, or B a 25% chance of contact sport going diamond. I don't know, what's the question? 75% chance that it goes platinum, so pretty good odds that it goes platinum, or 25% chance it goes diamond, which is 10 times platinum, way harder to get, but lower chance. So you're saying which what would I want? Which, yeah, how risky are you feeling? Oh, We're going. We're shooting for the stars, man. Going all the way. 25% is going for it. Part two. Part two. I like it. Really great. You always shoot for the stars. You never know where you might land. That's right. That's right. Perfect. The final part of the rampage is the word association. I'm gonna shoot one word at you. Just tell me the first word, maybe two words off the top of your head. Here we go.

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Rampage! Hip hop. Oh, my bad. Damn. Uh hooray. Hooray. Wow, that's amazing. Vegetables. Broccoli. Volcano. Hot. Cash. Money. Minivan. Slide. Horoscope. The stars. Attorney. Help me out. January. February. TikTok. It's a pretty good app. Reasonable. Golf. Tiger Woo. The goat.

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Prison. Don't go. Dr. Dre. Snoop. Bathtub. Shout. Zaza. A lot. Spider. Monkey. Good. Lingerie. Take that shit out. Barbecue. Yeah. Yeah. Fourth of July. My bad. Fourth of July. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Go to the barbecue. Lil. Wayne. Thank you. Album. Album. There you go. Podcast. One more time.

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One more time. Tool. Time. Bitcoin. Some bullshit. Shit. Where are you Bitcoin players at. Where y'all at? All that fake money. And ending with Mask. In a bucket. Yes. Finally. Successful alley-oop. Henry's alley oop is successful. This has been an amazing rapid fire rampage. Dope interview, man. Great episode. Appreciate you coming on. Yes, Tate, man. He's the man. Y'all go get that contact sport as soon as it drops. He sounds like he's about to, you know, kind of tease us with a few singles. So I had to wait on it because of two. Blow up two. Yeah. I've been trying to put that bitch out, man. He they they trying to put me in channel. I'ma call too after this episode, guys. I have his number. Facts. Yeah. For sure. man. We finna release some shit. We got some singles coming. You know what I'm saying, really? How about this? Y'all run, y'all run these things. Y'all run this next single up and though. I already told too, man. Yeah, I

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run this next single up enough. Thank you. I Have no choice but to drop it. It's over after that. I'm dropping. It's done. Yes sir. At 228 everywhere. Tate 228 on all streaming platforms. Go get all of his old music, especially Jive. That record is one of my favorites. It's no wonder that it's going crazy. So appreciate you, man, for coming on. Henry, until next week, what are we doing? Getting out of here. Getting the fuck out of here. Getting up. Peace. Let's go. Pop that shit like one more time. Pop that one more time. Pop that shit like one more time. Pop that one more time. Oh. Hop up in the foreign skirt now. All the homies this shit dripping now. Middle finger to the law. Yeah.