The Future of Country & Hip-Hop Fusion (ft. Anella Herim)

If you want to play the game, you have to play the game. It's not like I'm making the rules, you're making the rules. You can slowly change them. At the end of the day, I don't know what I'm doing. I know what I want to do and what I think will work, but I have no idea what I'm doing. And no one does. If there was a blueprint, you know what I'm saying, you'd be able to pay for it. Country is now shining super hard where it's like, oh my gosh, you guys are talking about some real sh talking about Yeah, you guys are like telling a real story. And I literally called my mom because at the time I still had a split account. Yeah. And I was like, I was like, yo, look at my account. It's a big fraud, bro. bro. 30 minutes later, I get a knock on my door, and there's like 11 or 12 cases of happy dad at my mom's front porch. What the? s***? Like, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna put 110% of my effort into it and do it right. On today's episode of the One More Time podcast, we talked to one of our favorite new artists named Anella Herim. He's seen huge success recently dropping music in packs of three. That's right, three song projects. You can even drop three songs on a single. People don't know that. We dove into his thought process around this release strategy. He shared a major gem that will help you tell better stories in your music and get people hooks. And we talked about whether or not genre is even a thing anymore as he attempts to blur the lines between country and hip hop. Does it even f**king matter?

If you're an artist who's sick of getting put in a box, wants to tell better stories in their music, and is looking for creative new ways to release their music and get it heard by the masses. This is a fantastic episode for you. Start the episode. One more time. One more time. Hit me, baby. One more time. So the version you're telling people is that your hair gets in your food when you eat or the real version. It's a valid reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think ultimately the reason is he wanted to cut it. Yeah. You feel me? Yeah, for sure. Well, welcome. We got Anella Herim on the podcast. Nella, welcome, baby. Thank you for having me. Yes. Yes. Sir, man. This one's been, you know, long time coming, but yeah, for real. you know, all things that what's the saying, Henry? We're bad with sayings. I don't know. Great things come to those who wait. I think. Sure. We'll go with that. Make perfect sense. so season three just dropped. Yes, sir. I need our audience to like understand what are we doing here with the season's rollout. Originally I wanted it to be like an album because like you know, short form content is the thing right now.

So it's like people are just unloading so much, so many singles onto like consumers, I guess you would say the professional way to say it. And I was like, I hate I hate short form content. I hate like 15-second clips of songs, hoping they go viral, even though it's got me where I'm at, I'm not complaining. I was like I'm playing the game. I'm playing the game. I'm like, you're so good at it just by hating it, bro. thank you. When I uh I started the seasons, I wanted it to be an album rollout because I feel like as a new artist, if I put out a full uh like body of work, people are gonna write it off after one or two songs if they don't love every song. So it's like, but they're not gonna listen to it as a project, they're gonna look for a hit because that's what people are trained to do right now. And if they don't find it in the first three songs, it's not on there, you know what I'm saying? They've you already lost their attention. So I thought if I did a season and I did three songs on it, and then people would pick their favorite one of that because it's easy to listen to three songs. Second season, pick their favorite song off that, third season pick your favorite song off that. I'm gonna go up to five now. At the end, I would do a compilation album called 831, the series, and so there'd be five seasons, and then each song is an episode, and then for the music videos, I'm just redoing my favorite movies and stuff, which is probably what I'll do for a long time because like there's so many great movies. So is that where the holes yeah, holes, uh pulp fiction?

Um we're trying to do the hangover right now. I saw that you're kind of teasing that with yeah, with uh don't hit me up or what? Yeah, don't hit me up. Uh actually, for don't hit me up, I'm gonna do Mr. Rogers. Oh, which is like I we ain't told anybody that yet, but I want to do like exclusive, Exclusive, bro. Early One more time exclusive, fire, you know. You know what I'm saying? you walk out and I'm like in the sweater vest and like start taking a shoe off one by one, and I'm just rapping. It's kind of interesting how you have to like almost earn the full length album these days. You really can't come out the gates with it, or it's just underappreciated. It's not a project. Yeah. So what do you say to the people that are kind of like album purists? Because there's so many people in our community that. This is my fucking art. hate what you just said. It's my art. What's your like response to them? I feel the exact same way. It pisses me off. Like I was like, God damn it, Ella. You know what I'm saying? Like I would love to just do albums, but it's like that's not what's working right now. And it's like you can't be ignorant. You know what I'm saying? If you want to do it, if you want to play the game, you have to play the game.

It's not like I'm making the rules, you're making the rules. You can slowly change them, but it's like to come, you know, to step in front of people that are used to doing a certain thing for so long because it's the easy thing to do and it's what's working right now, and to tell them, nope, you're wrong, screw you. We're gonna do it my way. They're not gonna, you know what I'm saying? And it's not very inviting of me as an artist who wants to relate to people to come and be like, oh, you're not doing it my way? We can't relate. Sorry. Here's my thing about it. The way that I always position it to like our community of artists is like, look, you can do whatever the fuck you want. Like, no one's here to actually tell you you can't drop an album early on in your career. But let's just be realistic about until you want to create a community and monetize. Let's just be realistic about the expectations on how people are consuming. Like you said it perfectly. Like they are, you know, fans, potential fans are consumers, and like they like to consume majority speaking in a certain way. So to your point, like you can do it the album way when you're early on, but your listeners probably, you know what I mean? Your listenership is probably not gonna be as high as doing it maybe in this way.

Yeah, it's less likely to do what you want it to do. But it's like if you're making it for you, you're making it for you. That's where it ends. So do what you want to do. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, how hard was it for you to kind of like accept this approach? You know, was there a lot of back and forth between like you and a team or you and your own head? Like both? But there's like I have a very good team, and it's like, I'm not like I'm stubborn, but I'm not stupid. I'm gonna listen to what you have to say. I might try to rebuttal or make my point make more sense. And like half the time when I talk, I'm just trying to convince myself anyways. You're lawyering a little bit. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, I have people that have been successful in the line of work that I want to go in, and in the line the the lines of work around what I want to do, you know what I'm saying? So I'm I'm having opinions from every angle, and not just as an artist or as a producer, as a DJ or as an executive or as a I'm not just getting one opinion. I have a very, you know what I'm saying, or a lawyer or whoever you want to talk about. I have a very um diversified, diverse team. And so it's like it's it's easy, and I'm not the only one putting money up. So it's like we gotta do what we think is gonna succeed. If I'm doing what I think is gonna succeed, and I'm wrong, then I gotta answer for that.

You know what I'm saying? We gotta make the shareholders happy, baby. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. And it's but thankfully they're all happy with what I want to do. So it's like I would be ecstatic. I'm not sacrificing anything. Yes, but it's like, yeah, sure. So for you as an artist, what do you think you needed a team most for? Everything. I have no idea what I want. Like, I'm super indecisive. Okay, so it's like creatively, I do feel like uh like me and Seven, we just sit in the studio and make pretty much everything. Shout out Seven in the building. In the building, let's go. Can't hear these. bombs I'm dropping. Seven. I'm dropping bombs for him, though. He can't hear it. That was an adorable wave, seven, all the way from the corner. But yeah, we uh like when it comes to creative, like we we don't really let anybody in on our craft. We kind of create and then give people a plethora of like um products to pick from. Um, but with everything else, like when it comes to needing help, bro. I have no at the end of the day, I don't know what I'm doing. I know what I want to do and what I think will work, but I have no idea what I'm doing, and no one does. If there was a blueprint, you know what I'm saying, you'd be able to pay for it.

I think more people need to admit that, right? You'd be able to pay for it with a bar, bro. I don't think y'all heard that part, but like, it's not just like everyone would do it. It's like you'd be able to buy it. Yeah. You know what I mean? The labels would buy it. Literally. Okay, so with the different seasons, uh, in my mind as a fan, right? Like, I'm I'm listening to season one. It's kind of the more like acoustic, like softer shit. Season two is a little more like punky, yeah, right? Season three is a little more hip hop. Like, talk to us about what you're trying to do either sonically and then like the differences in like the creative processes of making the different seasons. Like, I want to just understand what your approach has been. He just said he has no idea, Ben. Well, he at least knows what he's done so far. I know the three seasons in. I know the outline out loud. Sure. I'm still, you know, figuring out where the pieces go. But I know the out I know what the I've created the outside of the puzzle. That's where you start, right? You know what I'm saying? You build the edges in the corners. Yep. Um, the series is called 831. So each season is like first season one was I love you. So it's eight letters, three words, one meaning.

So season two is deep bro. Deep cut. Season two is I I lost you. Yep. Season three was I made you. Season four and season five will be called another version of 831, which is like I love you, I miss you, I need you, I want you, I know you, I have you, I knew you, I hold you, I hear you, I feel you. Which one's it gonna be, bro? Take your pick. I know. So it's like when it comes to genre, I feel like a lot of people right now with the short form content are focusing so hard on a it's and it and it's really been like this for a long time. But people say, you know, find one thing and do that, and people will love you for just that. And it's like that is the exact opposite of being human. You know what I'm saying? Or having emotions. It's like I don't wake up every day and feel the same thing. I don't listen, I don't listen to the same type of music, especially growing up as a consumer in the SoundCloud era or when streaming became the your main, you know what I'm saying? You didn't have to, I don't have to go buy an album and listen to that person and really fall in love with every song. It's like I can I'm gonna go listen to rap, I'm gonna go listen to stuff from the fifties, and I can listen to stuff from 2024, or I can listen to stuff from 2017 on a playlist. It's like top 10 songs of 20 of the 2010s or whatever you want to call it.

Like, there's so much to pick from. And I know personally that I have to, I know what songs I already love, what I grew up on, and I know I don't know how to look for music. I've never been good at that. But when it comes to my projects, I want there to be in a sense, like you don't have to go anywhere else. I don't feel the same emotion ever. So when I create music, I create music based on how I feel that day in that moment. And so it's all different. I grew up listening to every single type of music you can imagine. So it's like what? Who are some of your favorites? I grew up listening to like Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, the Beach Boys, The Carpenters with my memo, and then Eminem or uh what's like this the SoundCloud era? Like I definitely I have Lil Peep lyrics tattooed on me. Um shit, wow. Yeah, like Blink-182. Yeah, I had the rock phase Green Day, like everything. Hymns, I grew up in church. Like so then sonically, they are supposed to be somewhat like different like subgenres of your sound. Is that is that fair? Yeah.

However, it makes sense to you, but that's kind of what it is. Is it doesn't, whatever makes sense to you? Classify however you want to classify it. Well, how did you go into it? What was your, you know what I mean? Like, what was your creative process for like season one versus two and three, for example? So I make so much music, it isn't even funny. So I just picked, you know, uh a group of work, and I was like, okay, you guys help me pick out, you know what I'm saying? We came up with a strategy. I was like, okay, you guys help me pick out three songs. And so I had just made lock and key. We were bumping that all the time. I was like, let's put that on there. Broken Hearted was one of our favorites that I recorded in Atlanta at uh Astro, like my first session at Astro. Like, how long ago is that seven? Like two years? 2022. 2022. Wow, yeah, two years old. Yeah. And then so Lock and Key I just did last year. Or was it this year or last year? It was last year. Super last year. Yeah, bet. And then what was the, what was the third one? Brokenhearted, Lock and Key. What you meant? So what you meant is a uh internet money beat. And it was like my first pack I got when I uh got with Def Jam and then my A and my old AR Chelsea. Shout out Chelsea.

She's it was my first pack I got, and he sent me like 10 beats, and we recorded a song on every single one of those beats within like eight hours. And we and I don't mind is one of those those beats too. And we did those like two years ago. And so we were we just been listening to one of those songs was brand new, one of those songs was relevant, and one of those songs was old, and we loved all three of them. So it was like a way for me to get the old music that they want out and the new music that I'm still excited about all in one, if that makes sense. So it had nothing to do with like, hey, for season one, we're gonna go with this type of sound versus season two. Like it wasn't really that. I think they they feel like a the songs feel like a family. I think they feel good together. Sure. That's the big that's my biggest um thing when it comes to releasing music, is like, do can I listen to these in a row and not be like, oh, yeah, it doesn't sound like you're changing the channel. It sounds like one season It's consecutive, you know what I'm saying? They they flow into each other. So lock and key obviously just went crazy. Insane. I mean, it's just it it was it immediately took off, right? Yeah, I was watching it go neck and neck with Tennessee Love Song as far as total streams on Spotify.

I was literally like, it was like a horse race, bro. For me, I was like, What is it gonna, you know, you know, which song I can do? You know, as you're kind of making the three-pack for season one, yeah, did you know that lock and key was gonna go? Not when we were making it, we knew it felt good. Um, but this is like country was doing country we now and country six months ago, it's not was not the same thing. Yeah, it was becoming popular, but right now it's like, oh, that's what country's the new thing, which is not the new thing, it's been an amazing thing. It's one of the oldest things. It's actually one of the oldest things in music. It's the newest hot thing. Yeah, it's been this good. Y'all are y'all are late to the party. Um I feel like for a while when like mumble rap or or melodies and beats became more popular than the lyrics, that's what people were listening for. They weren't, they didn't really care what you were saying. And now that that's been not played out because some people still do it right, but now that it's become so many people that you know record in front of a camera and they're like, oh yeah, I make music. And then you're like, what are you saying?

What are you talking about? Country is now shining super hard where it's like, oh my gosh, you guys are talking about some real shit. Talking about yeah, you guys are like telling a real story, like I can really, you know, lose myself in this and relate to it. Yeah, but so lock and key, like you didn't really know it was gonna be the smash that it nah, I had talked to Sud and I was like, uh Shout out Sud in the building. In the building, let's go. But I I can't I came up to him and I was like, yo, I wanna I want to record this video. Um, like you know how they do the hanging mics. And I was like, So good. But with the so with the video, I was like, literally, I was like, bro, yo, I'm gonna pull up the studio. I want to record in the garage with a hanging mic, and I just want the most diverse background. Like when people look at this, I want them to mute it and be like, this is a rap video. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when you unmuted it, it was like never mind. It's like, yeah, what is going on? And so I knew that was gonna do something, but I didn't know that it was gonna get the attention of like on the radar. And they were like, yo, we think we want to start this uh country on the radar. I knew it.

I knew they based this around Anella, bro. Yeah, so they're like, we we'd love for you to uh kick it off. And I was like, yeah, I'd love that. And I went to there, and then I I literally made like the track because I sang it live. So I made the track because I didn't have uh a TV track, I didn't have the beat without the lyrics. So I had in I had got uh the guy that mixed it, shout out Elijah. He sent me like the a cappella and the beat separate, and then I went and like chopped it up and like turned the volume down and stuff to where it was like the chorus. You had some backing vocals, yeah. And harmonies. So you made a show mix for yourself, essentially. Or like literally three minutes before we recorded it. Like, what, what you see? Literally three minutes before that, I'm on my laptop, like a bunch of people around me that are about to do like rap and stuff like that. Met a lot of cool people there. Okay, so then that was kind of how season one went down, as far as like you know, you'd already made a couple of them, and like one was newer, yeah. You know, did season two and season three also follow that um process, or like you know, what was the creative process for for those two? When it comes to season two, what was it?

It was Bitter Bitter, I don't mind, and Waste It on You. Yeah, so Wasted on You was actually the newest song I had made at the time. Um it was that was those was that was a bedroom song. Me and Seven cook up in a bedroom, and so it's like some of the best shit, you know what I'm saying? So it's like and it's not it's not really bedroom, we have nice speakers, and I've invested money into it, but it's like it's the vibe of the bedroom in a bedroom, yeah. It's not a commercial studio, no, not at all. Yeah, and um, and so we had just recorded that, and seven actually produced on it too. So me and Seven made the beat and then recorded it, and we just loved the song and it fit good with season two. And I wanted to put out something new because for a while we were putting out everything I was putting out was years old, and I was like, Oh my gosh, we make such better music than this now. So for season two, we put out Wasted on You and then I Don't Mind had done good on a reel. It was one of the first songs that we had all agreed on because we had had several release plans before we released. We picked this method um with the seasons. We had picked out songs before, like with Tennessee Love Song. Uh, we had originally had like four songs to come after that, but then it went crazy, and so we were like, oh, well, change of plans.

What are we doing? Let's go ahead and like highlight that for people that our audience needs to understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like I might not have been thinking about that song at first, but it it doing well on a reel is kind of proving that people like it. Yeah. And that should have some kind of factor in your decisions. Like maybe it's not your favorite song, but if it's your fans, yeah. Yeah, I can't wait to put it out. Cause I'm still gonna put out what I want at the end of the day. I can't I'll have it. You know what I'm saying? But so Tennessee Love Song went insane. Yeah, so when a song starts to go crazy like that, what was your response to it? How did you actually, you know, because we always hear the term of like add fuel to the fire, you know what I mean? Like, let's respond to a record that's moving. Like, so what did you do when that started to go crazy? The original version of the song is not acoustic, it is the version that's out now. That is the original version. It was my first session in Nashville. We pulled up on Evan, which is who uh me and him produced it and wrote it. And so that was our first session in Nashville, and uh I knew it was a hit when we made it. I literally looked at seven, like, we've got a vlog of us uh making the song, and like I was like, bro, this is like have you released that?

Yeah, yeah, it's out. I got a channel called Nellivision, which is like the behind the scenes everything, or just like more of my personality, less my music. Um I love that by the way, because some people are afraid to show the personality stuff or even just point a camera at themselves and start talking. Oh no, I don't do that. I don't do that. I am I it is what about you holding the frog? That's just like a video that like my girl took because she was like, we were pulling up, it was like 11 p.m. and we had just pulled up, and she was like, yo, don't hit this frog that's in the road. And I was like, I was like, first of all, it's probably still not there. She's like, there's a big toad. And I'm thinking toad. You know the difference between a toad and a frog, right? No, no idea. I'm from I'm from a city, bro. So like toads are like little and brown and got bumps on their back. Frogs are like smooth. Okay. You know, what I'm saying? you think of a bullfrog or a tree frog, you think really smooth. A toad is like rocky. Okay. So it's like, she's saying toad. I'm like, toads are like that big, Max. I'm like, unless you're in, never mind, that's still a frog. So toads like this big Max. I'm like, yo, there's no way you saw a toad from your car.

And if you did, it's not there. Or I'm not gonna see it. Like, I can't help that. But I'm still gonna go slow because if I do end up hitting this frog and realize I'm just gonna. So you're never gonna hear the fucking name. I'm gonna have to tell her and she's gonna be pissed or cry. And so it's like, I'm in a Corvette. Like, I'm in my uh, we'll talk about that. That was a stupid decision in itself, but I'm driving it. I love it. What? Buying the Corvette? Yes. Like he got the advance and immediately bought a Corvette. I had to learn though. I had to learn that. That was the first thing I bought. That was the first thing I bought. I bought a bunch of music equipment first. Okay, and then the new corvette. Yeah, yeah. But anyways, we don't gotta talk about my bad decisions. We maybe we do. Maybe it's helpful. No, we will. We definitely will. I can't wait to tell you how bad I've messed up. Okay. But so that yeah, I'm pulling up, then I see like this little pine cone, I see this rock, I'm like, that's not the frog, it's not the frog, it's not the frog. And then my lights catch this gigantic, just white, like reflective. I'm like, well, that's huge. That's definitely not the frog, but what is that? So I'm like, but maybe that is a frog. So I pull up, and like I literally get like 50 yards away, and it's just like linebacker stance in the road.

Like, I can see its eyes and like stomach. Like, it's a big frog, bro. So I'm like, I'm freaking out. Like, I'm like, this is the first time I've seen a bullfrog in person. So I got out of my car. I like turned on my flashers, got out of my car, and chased it down. And I wow, picked it up. And then so yeah, she came out and she was crying, laughing, and she just started videoing me. And then I was just like in the heat of the moment. I was like, look at this frog, bro. that's some country ass shit, bro. So so the point of this was maybe make a separate page for that type of content. If you don't like posting it on your main page, you know what I'm saying? Oh God. All right, back to your bad decisions. So what what did you do? I just found I didn't make it. Why are you so disappointed in yourself, Anella? It's just like let's frame it more like what, what decisions could other people make that you could help them out when they're in your same position. So honestly, I regret it and I don't regret it. I'm glad I did it because I learned to regret it. And it's like I didn't mess up the most amount of money. It's a lot of money for especially for like still so much money. But I didn't understand how much money it was because it happened so fast.

You know what I'm saying? So what happened? I got signed. You guys, I got signed. Just, I need everyone to understand, he did sign, and I was very, very fortunate. He got the signed. Very fortunate. You got the bag. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And so, but I'd been talking about this car for two years before that. I mean, everything that's been happening, even when it comes to happy dad. Shout out to Happy Dad. Shout out Happy Dad. Yes. Yes, let's just let's just uh let's go ahead and just all cheers to our happy dad. Happy dad, we'd love to have you on the podcast. We'd love to share the message of the happy dad every week on the one more time. I'm a happy dad. Exactly. I'm a happy dad of two. Good. So congratulations. Perfect. Thank you, man. But yeah, so yeah, so like when it comes to get signed. Yeah, I got signed, and then I I like went and bought all the musical equipment I could think of. I got the guitar I wanted, the bass I wanted, I bought a drum set. I ended up returning that because it wasn't what I wanted. Does the money all come in out like no God no? You get us you get an advance, you get a recording budget, you get a marketing budget, and then you get a return or a back end for when you complete your obligations. Sure, but but the advance does like come in.

A lump sum. Yeah, yeah, like it's you get a certain percentage of what shit hit the bank, the checking account. Yeah. Fat. yeah, for sure. it was like GTA. Like I refresh, and I literally called my mom. Because at the time I still had a split account. Yeah. And I was like, I was like, yo, look at my account. I was like, I was like, fucking told you. But uh so that happened. Splurged on studio equipment, literally got everything I could think of. And then I really wanted a dirt bike. Guitar center was like, who's this guy? Literally, no, the guy, the guy thanked me. He was like, bro, thank you so much. He's like, we get commission on these sales. Oh shit. You just made my month. You just literally, he's, yeah. Those were his exact words. I was like, bro. I was like, thank you. Like I bought a Nord, which is like also kind of not a bad decision, but another just something I shouldn't have done. Just excessive. But I knew what I wanted and what I had been, what I'd seen because I grew up in church too. So I'm seeing all these people with these the nicest instruments. And you know, I'm not thinking I'm a rapper now. I'm like, I know what I've wanted for a while.

I'm gonna go buy this Nord. I'm gonna go buy this telecaster, this American-made, you know what I'm saying? Oh man, Texas T telecaster, which I still play that great decision. I'm gonna go buy this, you know, bass. Like, I'm gonna go, I know what I want, like a five-string or whatever you want to call it. Everything I knew exactly what I wanted, so I bought it, and then you know, you learn. But when it comes to bad decisions, I don't regret it either. I can't even say I regret it because I love it. I love it so much. I talked about it for years. We would literally sit in the garage, and my boys would be smoking, and there would be an empty space in the garage, and I would literally look at them and be like, you guys know what's crazy. I was like, one day you're gonna be sitting here smoking, and there's just gonna be a C8 behind us. Like, and it's just gonna be badass. And we would literally talk about that all the time. At the time, too, they weren't making some type of chip in China or something like that that went in the cars because of what was going on with the virus and shit. So it was like they were expensive, they were super expensive at the time. I did not pay what it was worth. You know what I'm saying? You got a deal. I got a deal. So I was like, I've been talking about this car for two years. I want this car. I was like, I know I want this car. It's not a it's not a spur of the moment decision.

I've been talking about it for God knows how long. I found a good deal on one. It's already matte black, it's already got the wing. You know what I'm saying? It's got low mileage. I want it. I can afford it. I want it. And now I'm like, you could have bought a tour bus. You could have a sprinter. A sprinter and rented it out. You could have you could have spent that money. You know what I'm saying? That that was a couple years' rent at some house I would need. Obviously, not a mansion or nothing, but like at a at a house that I could have afforded. That's a couple years' rent. That's this, that's that. That that would be less stress on my travel. I've toured three times now. That would have been less stress on that. You know what I'm saying? I also thought, you know, you get signed, I made it. I'm out of here. You get signed, that is the beginning. You're now in the race. You know what I'm saying? I went from playing college ball to be in the NBA. That doesn't mean anything. I hate to interrupt this episode, but guys, I got one thing on the mind right now, and it's data. I can't stop thinking about it. All the artists in 2024 are winning because of data. They know who their fans are, they have access to their fans. Do you?

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It's just this the fusion sound is what's popular. So I don't necessarily think that they're like the blurred lines. The blurred lines too? I don't know if they're blurred. I just think some people are catching a wave, and it's like because if you ask most country fans if they like hip hop, they're gonna say no. And if you ask most hip hop fans, like hip hop heads and country heads, if they like country hip hop heads are gonna say no. There are people and a lot of people right now that like that blend, but I don't think they're blurred to where it becomes, you know what I'm saying? People that are hardcore country fans are like, let me hear some 808s. Like it's not that blurred. So, what do you as an artist uh like most about the country genre and like what are you drawing from most there? And then what do you like most and draw inspiration from on the hip hop side? Am I I would like to guess. I I feel like the hip hop side is a lot of the production side. Yes, sir. The drums for sure and whatnot. For sure. Your voice, I mean, I listen to his music. What do you mean? I get it. I don't know, you be sleep sometimes. I'm a producer engineer. Like I hear, but your vocals, you know, are you have the accent, yeah, you have the harmonies, you have you know, typical like country kind of things. So no, yeah, it's definitely the lyrics with country, like this story, putting an emphasis on what I'm saying, how I'm saying it, when I'm saying it, why I'm saying it, and not just something that sounds good.

You know, so you mentioned you like to be what locked in with just you and seven? Literally, just me. that's it. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, season three was obviously, you know, all three records were produced by DA got that dope. Yeah. So got that dope. Did you lock in with him in person, or did he just send packs? Yeah, so DA is actually part of the team. Okay, okay. Like, first he's on the like list of people that you short list. The very short list of people you're okay It's like being in the studio with. Yeah. Not even. He's like, look, so I'm not gonna lie to you, he's the most uh critical. And again, it's because he cares, obviously. But like DA will ring my shit out over music, like you need that. No, obviously. Every artist 'cause we just had Troy Taylor on the podcast. Who's the ultimate do that shit again? That was not it. He wouldn't let his artists go to the bathroom until they got the takeout, bro. Because he thought their tone might be different. Like, no. You're locked in, real. That's real. That's real. Yeah, that's real. He's the goat of RB. So yeah, it's definitely real. Yeah.

But so okay, so so how's DA? Well, he's a genius, first of all. Like, of course. But no, that none of the songs on the project I recorded with him. Like they were all one of them, well, one of them, two of them are like four years old. And don't hit me up. Me and Seven did in November on a cabin trip for my birthday. I love that. Yeah. It's just y'all two. Yeah. At the cabin. No, no, no. It was me, okay. Seven, my boy Dab, my boy Rich, and my girl. Okay, cool. And so they uh my girl and seven took me there for my birthday. Nice. And so, but I bring my studio everywhere. Like, because that's what I enjoy doing in my free time. Of course. So we did that. We did not hit me up there. But when it comes to DA, like he's just super, like super funny guy, super talented, super genius, super blunt and honest. And just like straight to the chase. So it's like sometimes to catch you off guard. He'd be like, Yeah, that doesn't sound good. I'm like, I'm like, oh, you're like, well, fuck me, DA. Like, I'm like, cool. All right, I'm gonna go work at McDonald's. Yeah, he's like, yeah, let's try something else. So, how does that kind of feedback uh impact you? Like in the moment, does it like completely throw you off?

Yeah, of course not. And he's got like I don't I know him now. I've known I've known Dave for a couple years, so it's like I'm super comfortable around him. He's just a funny dude. I'm like, sometimes I'll take the advice, and sometimes I'm like, nah, you're tripping. Let me finish my idea, and then I know you'll like it. You just don't know what it's gonna sound like at the end. That's fire. Was he like that in the very beginning, or did he have to kind of work his way? Nah, he's always been him. He is so honest. Like, and yeah, he already had the accolades too to back it up. He was already the got that dope. Literally, yeah, he has got the dope. He's the dope man. We know this. I went to him for the dope. He's trapping hits, you know what I'm saying? Oh man, so you know, we, we'd be remissed if uh you like that word? You love that We'd be remissed if we didn't bring up Tity Boi, 2 Chainz himself on the new project. So, what is the connection with Chains? So, Sud, yeah, I've been working with Sud for a long time, but he's 2 Chainz DJ. Okay, so it's like uh Yeah, it's family ties, literally, like street, true, like all that. When I started working with Sud, he immediately started bringing me around, you know, all the people he was connected to and and introduced me to people and showing me around and creating uh a name in his circle that way I would be good wherever I went, you know what I'm saying?

And so change is one of the first like famous, successful people I've met. And so I've known him for a while. But like, at what point does the feature conversation like you know, cause it's like, yeah, you meet him, yeah, sud's your team, and then he's Chains' DJ, you gotta be strategic. Yeah, how did that unfold? And then, like, how, how was this the right time to be on track two of this, you know, this most recent project? So we talked about it for a long time. I'm sure it's been in the works, but I I mean like Chains, Like Chains had brought up a feature, and I had brought up a feature before, and we had talked about it for a long time. And I remember uh one time we were in Live in Miami, and I forget when this was. This is like a year ago, maybe a year and a half. But I remember like we were standing there. I was actually with my girl, so this wasn't a year a half ago. This was like within the last year. But uh, yeah, and he just like he's talked to me, he's like, Yeah, bro, how you been? I'm like, I'm good, bro.

Very good to see you. He's like, Yeah, shit. When we go work, I'm like, I was like, bruh. I was like, oh shit. Cause he like we had talked about it before, and I knew that he knew, you know what I'm saying? He knew and that he was down, and obviously he knew that I knew, and that I was down because that's a fucking given. And so, but I literally told him, I was like, bro, I'm just waiting until the right time. I will, I was like, I'm going to hand you a hit. Like, I'm not gonna put you on something. I'm not gonna and I don't want to favor. I also want to be mutually beneficial. I want to have a name for me. I want to, you know, have some kind of traction. And I don't want to you don't want to give him some. bullshit. yeah, I don't just want to, I don't just want the feature because I can get it easier than other people, if that makes sense. I don't want a favor at the end of the day, even though obviously it was a very big handout, and I and I fucking appreciate it so much. Not I'm not sure. But you want to do your best to make it feel like I'm gonna make sure I do everything in my power to make sure that this was like just as e all across the board even for you as it was for me. And I wanted to hand him something that he could easily, you know, being an artist, it's like if the song sounds good, it's so much easier to write to or to rap to or to enjoy. So from a songwriting perspective, I know that you mentioned, you know, songwriting is obviously one of your your biggest strengths in my opinion, just like as a fan.

Thank you. What what is the songwriting process, right? And and I guess like any tips for people that are trying to like level up as a songwriter, because I do think that's one of your biggest strengths. There really isn't a specific process. It can come from anything, like a conversation, right? Or watching a movie, watching a TV show, uh, you know, talking to somebody that's 11 years old, talking to somebody that's 80 years old in a bar in a church. It can be a dream. I can just randomly think of it out of nowhere, redesign. It comes from everywhere. I think you just gotta be open to it. Like, if I had tips to become a better writer, watch movies. I'm 22 years old. I've not lived that much. You know what I'm saying? I don't. Everyone thinks they know what true love is. Everyone thinks they know what you know true loss is. I learned so much through movies, um, in certain ways where it's like how a 40-year-old would handle the situation. And I can really see the effects of it. Obviously, it's not real, but it's like I'm watching the director tell a story visually, and then I can tell the same story audibly by learning through, you know what I'm saying, by living another life, by living 80,000 lives, by going to these, you know, places that are completely fiction and bringing it back to the real world and making sense of it to somebody that's never seen the movie. You know what I'm saying?

Or just can you know what I'm saying? Just to myself, make it make sense to myself in a way that I understand in the art that I love. It's a storytelling. It's learning storytelling, you know what I mean? Yeah, which is the ultimate art form. If you know how to tell a story, you can translate it into a song or a book or whatever it may be. You know, what I'm saying? so let's talk about Happy Dad real quick. Sway. All right. So obviously I'm seeing the hats everywhere, I'm seeing the cans, I'm seeing the the beer pong table, I'm seeing the cooler. Is it safe to say that we are an official happy dad partner? Now, yes. Okay. Yes. Sweet. So I don't want to be like, you know, talking specifics around like the thing. How much are they paying now? No, come on. But I do think if if you're comfortable sharing just like high level, what does an artist partnership with a brand look like? Right. Because I our audience would love to, of course, secure a brand partnership at some point in their career. For sure. So, like, can you talk about like how the deal is structured?

Like what, you know, what you're supposed to do, what they do for you. You know what I mean? Like, just anything you can share about the partnership, I think would be helpful. I have loved happy dad for a long time. So I had this one guy follow me. Not more than a year because you're only 22, right? Certainly. Yeah. Of course not. But I didn't drink him before I was 21, but I saw him. everywhere. He was fascinated by the brand. The brand was fine. Yes. Yes. And what it stood for. It was a good time. I don't remember exactly if Roman found me because of I know he found me because of my music, but I don't know if I was wearing the merch or whatever. But he had followed me, and I had seen in his bio, it was like owner dash happy dad. I was like, I was like, I wonder if he he had DM'd me and he was like, yo, you're fire or whatever. I don't know if I DMed him first. I forget what it was. But I was basically like, yo, I see you like work with Happy Dad. Like I fucking love Happy Dad. Like I rep the merch all the time. You know what I'm saying? He was like, bro, let me send you some shit. So I'm like, oh shit, y'all are fucking nice as hell. So and then he was like, Bet, send your address, da-da-da-da.

I'll ship you some drinks and some uh merch. I was like, bro, thank you so much. So I sent it to him and he's like, Bet, it'll be there in 30 minutes. I was like, What? Yeah, I was like, wait, no, no, no, no, I'm not there. I'm not at my house. Like right now, I'm at my mom's house, uh, an hour and a half up at the road, you know what I'm saying, different side of the state. So he's like, oh, well, send me that address. He's like, he's like, I'll I'll send the merch. Because I'm thinking it's coming from a warehouse or something. Does Roman have drones? He's like, I'll send the merch to your house. He's like, I'm gonna send you drinks right now, though. Literally, 30 minutes later, I get a knock on my door, and there's like 11 or 12 cases of happy dad at my mom's front porch. What the fuck? I'm like, I'm like, yo. Did your mom think you were a degenerate alcoholic? Or what did she not? I caught her. I was like, look at what just happened to me. Because she even she knew. Like, I've been talking, I've I've been managing. She was proud. Yes. She was like the most happy a mom's ever been about 11 cases of alcohol being dropped on her front porch. Yeah. It's like, Yo. Because like one of my friends, his name's Dab, but he watched the Nelk boys and all them for a long time. I love Nelk, bro.

He put me on them. Yeah. And so, you know what I'm saying? I had known about Happy Dad, and I knew about Nelk, but I wasn't really like, I didn't watch that. But then he had put me on it, and I was just like super fascinated by it. And so we manifested the relationship, or just wanting something with Happy Dad for a long, long, long time. So when he reached out, we started talking, you know what I'm saying? We got each other's numbers. I sent him some music, you know what I'm saying? He was fucking with it. And then he had hit me and he was like, yo, I hit him. I was like, yo, I'm gonna be a Stagecoach. Are you gonna be there? He was like, fuck yeah, I'm gonna be a Stagecoach. Pull up on me. I pull up, and he just he comes outside, and like all the guys come outside. And he's like, All right, everybody, all right, everybody, chill, chill, don't act weird. He's like, meet and greet, meet and greet. And come to find out, he was like, Yeah, bro. I put all the boys on your music. Like, they all love your music. So I'm meeting all these cool people, you know what I'm saying? Uh but they're fans. Yeah, I hate that word. Well, I mean, okay. They like the music, they're supporters, they're supporters, they supported me like crazy. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, like you thought you were gonna be excuse me. Yeah, I'm like the one that was like fanning and supporting out over the. I'm like, like, bro, don't act weird. Yeah. And they're like, Don't act weird. Yo, Kyle, don't act weird. No, so Kyle was not there. Okay, this is like this is the happy dad crew, like Chaffee, uh Sammy, Roman. Okay, like we met so many people, but Sammy and uh John and all of them had followed me on Instagram, so I was already geeked. I was already like, Yeah, these people know how I am. That's insane. The fact that John has at John John. So Sammy. I'm like, those are these are people. Exactly. These are people. These are people. This is not John 365, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is at John. This is John. Yeah. This is the John. The only John. Only fire. so the takeaway, I think, is at least that you were kind of repping them before that. It really the ball started rolling. That's where we were. I just like summing it up for people. Like, you were, you know, you were you were wearing the merch and I was super yeah. content.

Content. I noticed. I love the brand. I love the brand. And they liked the music. They reached out, and then we hung out for a weekend. That's what I was getting to. We hung out for a weekend, and they were just like, yo, we we had a super good time. Like, you're super cool guy. And I was like, wow, because y'all are super cool as fuck, also. So that's crazy. Glad, glad we agree. And so they were like, yeah, we'd love to do like real business. Like they brought it up. They were like, bro, we'd love to do real business with you. If that's you know what I'm saying, like if you're down, I was like, shut the fuck up. You were trying to act cool as fuck. I was like, I'm gonna have to talk to my people. I'm gonna have to run this by the team. I was literally talking, I like because Roman did say we were at this tequila, this uh patron party, and he was literally like, yeah, bro. Of course we wouldn't do business, and he just slid by. He's like, but right now it's about having a good time. I was like, I played it super cool. Totally, it's about having a good time right now. But like the business, right? Business is a good time, but it would just it never felt like business. It still don't feel like business. They're just like I met them, we're friends, you know what I'm saying? And they hit me on random shit. So I wanted to start off with this question, but I'm gonna kind of like do it now. Anella is not your real name. No, it's not. So what the fuck is Anella? What's

what's an Anella? So my name on SoundCloud used to be Tom, T-Y-M-E. And that well, obviously it was a bunch of stuff, but that's what it was. When I went to God, this meme page reached out to me. They were like, yo, if you send us a music video, we'll post it for 40. We have a million followers. WWE. Obviously, now it's very normal. That's normal scam. Million followers don't mean shit. Everybody buys followers now. Yep. But I was like, that's a steal. $40, Many people see this song. I'm like, I gotta go all out. And I'm I've always been the type to go all out. Like, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna put 110% of my effort into it and do it right. So I immediately got a job. Well, I got three jobs. I got fired from them all in less than three weeks. But I was like, I want to go to I want to shoot this in Maui. I want to shoot a music video in Maui, Hawaii. So I got jobs and I saved up until I got enough money for a plane ticket. And then me and two of my friends, I told them what I was doing, they're like, bro, I want to go too. So they did the same thing. And we flew to Maui and stayed there for two and a half weeks. I shoot it on my phone, uh edit it on iMovie, I send it to them, they post it. Obviously, I get torn to fucking shreds on the meme page.

It's a meme page. It makes perfect sense now. But they saw it. I need a little bit of a page. What'd you think was gonna happen? I have no idea what I thought was gonna happen. I just thought maybe people are gonna see it, and then it was gonna be like, they're gonna notice my talent. Like, like, I don't know. I was like, shit, I've always wanted to do music. This is my shot. This is my shot. A million people, I'm like, fuck, this is my shot. Yeah, so I send it, they post it, does what it does, does not do much. Um, and then, but I while I was in Maui, my sister had she lived in Maui at the time. That's why that's why I was like, I want to do it there because I got a place to stay. So let's go. Okay. And so makes more sense now. A little cheaper. I'm like, I paid for I paid for a plane ticket. Still expensive. No, yeah, and I was a saw uh sophomore in high school at the time or junior. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, very expensive. Every dollar you had. Literally, I literally got a job. Like just I got a job. You know what I'm saying? So she had this friend named Danella, and I don't I don't remember if it's because I thought she was pretty or I just love the name. I definitely think it was because I thought she was pretty, but then they taught me what a harem was, which is like a consensual relationship with like if a girl has five boyfriends but they all know about each other and are cool with it, or if a guy has five girlfriends and they all know about each other and are cool with it, it's called a harem.

Like that girl or guy has a harem of uh you know what I'm saying? So I was like, Anella's harem would be the most insane screamo band name. That would be so fire, you know. what I'm saying? like Anella's harem. Like I can just imagine that, like, and I was like, but I'll never have a screamo band. So I took the S off and I was just like Anella Harem. I was like, I'm gonna go with that. And then my music started streaming better. Um it's not because of the name, I don't know what happened. It might have been it started streaming better, and I was like, Well, we're sticking with it now. As you know, as much as you don't wanna think that the name like had much to do with it. I mean, I'm telling you, like the amount of terrible names that we see come through the live streams, bro. Names matter, bro. X five, four cubes, shit that no one can even think about pronouncing. R R R S T Z. It's bad, bro. So I'm definitely glad that you that's actually hard. I'm definitely glad that you changed from time t-y-m-e to Anella Harem. It's a lot more unique and rolls off the tongue, yeah. And like Nella, but I remember when I made the name, like I'd tell my You knew Nella was gonna be the shorthand. Yeah, I was like, bro, people are gonna call me Nella. Like, who's gonna be?

be because I had a uh friend at the time, his name was Jordan, but his rap name was KD, and I was just like, like, we were I was like, this is what call me this, I'm gonna call you that. He was like, Yeah, you call me this, and I'm gonna call you that. So we started it, and then obviously I was growing up in my hometown, so everybody just called me Austin, which is my legal name. And so slowly but surely, like I would just meet new people and introduce myself as Nella. And the people that I were growing up with were obviously like that makes no sense. Why would that? That isn't even like it's funny how it starts to overlap, yeah. Yeah, it doesn't even look like you. Like, why you don't even look like a Nella? Like, what is that? That's a girl's name. And then, but I was like, bro, people are gonna call me Nella. And then now we're here, and it's like it just, I guess it rolls. It's like that's what I know you're it's comfortable, you know what I'm saying? For sure. Shit rolls. Well, Nella, we've entered a final segment of the podcast. Shit. Oh shit. Buckle the fuck up, Nella. Can you pass me one of those happy dads? Of course. Buckle up. Watermelon? Yeah, any, surprise me. I'm gonna do a little shotgun here. Maybe.

Oh God. In hopes of the Happy Dad sponsorship. We're gonna spill some a little bit, probably. That's okay. All over the set, bro. I live here soon. That's how much we love Happy Dad. We can clean this up later. Um Roman, hit us up. Let's go. For those that are listening to the podcast right now, Henry is certified. Indeed a certified Happy Dad shotgunner. Delicious. Certified. Oh, on camera. Delicious. Fuck. that's delicious. And I'm not gonna lie, it was a little bit room temperature if I'm being honest, it's cold, but you don't want too cold for shotgun. You're right. Shotgun actually, that kind of works. No, yeah. You gotta have a room temp. If you Shotgun and cold beer, it's like oh. I like cool. Yeah, we're not bitching about it. It was delicious. Happy Dad, thank you. We are starting the rapid fire rampage. It's gonna be a three-part rampage. That could be presented by Happy Dad eventually. Presented by Happy Dad. Doesn't that roll? It rolls off the tongue. Almost as good as Anella Haram. I'm telling you. So three parts.

We'll explain them as we go. First part is just some short answer questions. Let's get right into it. Let's go. Um Nella, what are three unexpected artists? Or rather, who are that you're listening to like right now, who you have in rotation. Uh, I'm gonna say I'll just go look. Let's go. All right, so that's way to do my Apple Music. There is Tame Impala, Dominic Fike, and Jack Johnson. Yes. So good. Vibes. All vibes. The theme song? Insane. It's so good. Hi. Okay. Let's go to what is maybe your best piece of advice for our artists listening in that are part of our community who want to reach over 600,000 monthly listeners. What's the one thing you could tell them? Consistency. Content. Like, as much as it sucks, content is almost as important as the music nowadays. So it's like you want your focus on making content that is entertaining with no audio. If it's entertaining with no audio, the music can only add.

And people will scroll, people will scroll. That's what I focus on my music videos. That's why I make movies because I don't want I don't want the music. If you wanted to listen to music, you would go listen to music. I need this to add more than it takes away. So if you're making and people have their phones out, people are on their phones in class, people are on their phones. Sometimes they can't have the volume. They're on mute. You're just you're just scrolling, and whatever's interesting to the eye is what's gonna catch somebody through scrolling. Damn! Focus on the eye. The music is comes second on Instagram, sadly. Wow. I don't do, I think we're done. And then no, I know that was so fire. That was so far. That was such a good answer. Anella Haram. Do you have to say it every question? Young Edward, An AI company wants to pay you a one-time fee of a quarter million dollars. They're gonna create a perfect model of your voice. Anyone can use it to create music royalty-free. You get no back end off of anything that it's made, but you get a quarter million dollars one time. Would you take this deal?

No, not at all. Super no Fuck the quarter million? Yeah, no, no, no. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like I understand how much money. I understand how fast money goes now better than anything, and I understand how much money is a lot of money. And that's like two Corvettes, bro. I mean, that's it's like it's like one million dollars. One million dollars. Nah. Maybe if they could do it for a year, or if there's a certain amount of songs they can make, sure, I'll take the million and invest it and do whatever. And it's like you can write as many songs as you want to. Just because you have my voice doesn't mean you have my message. So it's like you can listen to me without hearing me. Let's go. You can listen to me without hearing me. What the fuck? This guy has bars, bro. No, Your dog can now speak English. You have to give it an accent to speak in, though. What accent is your dog speaking in? Bro, my dog is Cuban as fuck. Have you seen my dog, Aspen? I haven't. No, we have no idea what you're talking about. She's beautiful.

She's a tribe murder. She has two different colored eyes. Ooh. She is a she's my baby. That freaks me out. I'm not gonna lie. She has the attitude of a literally teenage girl. So it's like, but I just imagine she would have a man's voice for some reason, like a Cuban. Just like talk super fast and be super, like always knows what she wants. You know what I'm saying? Like, and she likes got the zoomies like crazy. It's Very intentional. You know what I'm saying? This is Nella. What are the last three DMs that you sent? Come on. Pull it up. No, I'm just kidding. No bullshit. It's gonna be the most boring. The ones that I've sent, sent, not received. Um we know you've received some bullshit. One of them was Parker Sharp, and he's from Charlotte. That's my dog. He sent me a video of them playing bougie linens on the radio like at 104 p.m. today. So I texted him back and I was like, let's let's go. I made it say go, but it says T O. So I said, let's listen to Bougie Linen's on the radio. That's fire. Parker, if you're watching this, I just sent you that DM that said go with an asterisk. He just corrected it.

All right, what else? Uh that I've sent. Two more. No cheating. Um to my mom. I sent this meme, and it is, I'll send it to y'all. But it says, I'm sorry, Jack, there's not enough room. And it's a play. Is it Titanic? Yes, Titanic. But it's there's the English, but it's like there's not enough room. My dog's on here. And I'm talking about Aspen. Wow. Jack can't get on because Aspen's on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Sorry about that. Not enough room for Jack. And then what else? So the next one would be. Oh, it's the group chat. Oh, they deleted the video though. It was so funny. It's the so I got a group chat with my boys. I think it's called Geef. G-E-E-F. Okay. That's what we say. We're like, it's like, but I'm geefed right now. I ain't gonna lie. It's uh I sent them a meme. It's just a play on Geef. Kids these days, we're not Geef, we're geefed. we're geefed. Or Geef. Well, actually, one time we were geefed, and I went to say gif. I went to say GEEF and I was like, GEEF. And then I was like, you call it GEEF, Geef? Yeah, I was like, sorry, bro, I'm messed up. And then I was like, sorry, bro, I'm GEEF. I'm geef. Yeah. I was like, I'm geefed.

And so it just became a thing. Wow. Shout out Geef in the building. Maybe shout out everyone in the building now. For sure. Indeed. Sure. Yeah. Fire. But I sent them a meme and it says message. is unavailable. So message is unavailable. That's really cool. The meme page that posted it. It did not perform well. No, they deleted it. They moved on. All right. Two more for the short answer. Um, first of all, if you were an emoji, what emoji would you be? I would be the emoji. It's a new emoji. And it I'm either this emoji. Salute. Okay. Yeah, or I'm the emoji. It's got like the, it's uh just a face, and he's like shaking. He's like this, but it's got like the uh-huh. You know what I'm talking about with the air around it? Yep. I would be like those guys. They're like it's like a Wait, I'll show you. There's a moving emoji. Yep. I'll show you how to. No, it doesn't move. It's just like it's it looks like it's moving. It's right here. You see it. Haven't I updated my phone? That shit. You see where it's like got the air around his face? Oh shit. I don't have I haven't updated my iPhone. So there's one of the shit right there. And then there's one that goes up and down. Like the it's just this opposite spin.

Yeah, that's definitely me. That's how I answer everything. Okay, yeah. No. Update. Uh update your phones, people. You're missing iOS 17 or whatever we're on now. Whatever the fuck we're on now. Last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? Hmm. Shit. Shit. You can say you can say it everywhere. It's a good thing. It's a bad thing. That's my no, we share the same favorite curse word. That's that shit. Mine's always been shit. And you can customize it. Shit. It can mean good, bad, average. Literally. Excited, bored. It's it's just unbelievable word, to be honest. We're moving on to part two though. This or that, starting with bass guitar or 808? 808. Third verse or bridge? Bridge. Singles or albums? Albums. Ironically. Interesting. Yeah, no. I like that though. It's hard. Yeah. Yeah. I can't control the public, but I can control my me. There you go.

The perfect producer or the perfect engineer. The perfect. Ooh, shit. That's a good one. Even Simmons back there like, oh, he doesn't know. Uh I'ma say. Nah, producer. Producer. I feel like the producer, you know what I'm saying? The beat is 50% of the song. Facts. Tommy Richmond or Shaboozy? Shaboozy. Rock climbing or pickleball. Rock climbing. Fortnite or GTA? Fortnite. Permanently speak in falsetto, or your left leg is two inches shorter than your right leg. Permanently speaking falsetto. And finally, become a full-time K-pop singer or leave the music industry forever. Full-time K-pop singer. Let's go. He's going back to time. T Y M E will be his K-pop name. I don't know. Anella Haram still might work. I could. Okay, okay. We're moving on to the final section.

This is the word association. I'm gonna say one word. You just give me the first word right back off the top of your head. First thing you think of. We're really gonna tap into the subconscious of Anella Haram right now. Let's get into it. Starting with music. Life. Spoon. Fork. Drip. Drop. Content. That's acceptable. We'll take shit. We'll take noises. Yacht party. Soon. Burrito. Uh, taco bell. Hook. Chorus. Low battery. Fuck. Midnight. Mmm. Nah. Oh. Studio. Sadness. Usual. Minivan. Swag. Lil. Pump. Wayne. Weezy.

You can't change it. Season. Fall. I was thinking like we'd get a number, but something. We'll take it. This is fall, it's the season. Let's fucking go, man. Nelaharam. This has been Nelaharam on the One More Time podcast. If y'all fuck with this interview, please like, comment, and subscribe. Follow us on Spotify Podcast, Apple Podcasts. Go buy some motherfucking happy dad. This shit is delicious. And go stream Nelaharam. Season three out now. Let's go.