Top 3 Productivity Tips for Musicians, Selling Beats Online & Christmas Music
Kato on the Track has racked up >4B views on videos using his beats. He credits a lot of that success to 3 productivity hacks. On this OMT Show, we unpack his top 3 tips for musicians to improve productivity, whether selling beats online is inferior to working in studio with artists, and when you should turn off the Christmas music.
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And I was like, yeah, it's cold, but you know, gas is expensive these days, so I'll take it. Jesus. Welcome back to another episode of the One More Time Show. Gems Takes and a little bit of bullshit. Henry, Merry Christmas, happy holidays. Merry Christmas, happy holidays. Happy holidays to our audience, our community, our supporters, our fans. Well, what do we call these folks? One more timers. Listeners? One more timers? One more timers. Sounds like old timers. That's exactly what bro. I don't have my headphones on. What am I doing? Oh sorry, guys. Didn't have you for a second. Didn't have my headphones on. No, it actually felt terrible. Okay. Um, anyways, all right. On today's episode, we are going to uh unpack a video that was made by a one more time podcast alumni, our friend Kato on the track. Kato on the track, bitch, he posted a video basically offering up three productivity tips to you know artists, producers, creatives in general. Um, and I want to basically like talk about the three that he mentioned, but then I want you know, you to weigh in on if you think he like nailed it, like there's no other three, those are the three. Or if you know, maybe you've thought about one or two that you would added to the list, and I'll do the same.
I'll say this about Kato before you start. Okay. What I love about these tips is I kind of relate to him in a way that I've I constantly am in a battle with my like logical self and my creative self. And these tips are kind of logical. It's like a war, actually. It's more like a war. The left brain and the right brain are having a civil war, bro, it's insane. So there's been multiple battles. But the the beauty is when you can, you know, you can kind of do both. So he's obviously a creative, he's a music producer, but these tips are kind of very like logical and um right brain, you know, and like good things that you should be thinking about, and you probably don't naturally think about as a creative. So if you can nail these down, yeah, I think you're in good shape. It's wild because I feel like he was bullshitting to some degree, and I love Kato, but I feel like he was kind of lying to me in some ways, where it's like he he said he's not good at the business stuff. And I just like I don't really buy it. Like I know he has a good team. I know his team. I do know that he does have like very solid business minds supporting him in his creative and like entrepreneurial endeavors. But the kid fucking gets it.
He gets it. Like, so I don't know. He's like me. I think he's 50-50, you know. I think he's he's confused. Like I am. I was like, okay. And by the way, uh, he's a Christmas baby, kind of like me. He's actually born on Christmas, though. So many birthdays. Happy birthday. Bro, so many birthdays. There were made so many calls. And like all podcast alumni too. The whole golf group uh with Juju and Stevo and um uh Redd Push, Yeah, Red. Ben Reilly's is today, yep. you were a few days ago. Happy belated birthday to our our friend here, Henry with a three. Let's go. I got okay, well, we'll we'll we'll talk about that later. But anyways, all right. So, first tip, first productivity tip from Kato on the track. Being disciplined is more important than being motivated. Yeah. So he basically went on to say that like you can wake up any day and like randomly feel motivated, right? He kind of was talking about how motivation can very easily come and go. You don't control it. That's the difference, is you can work hard and you can be disciplined if you put your mind to it. But motivation is a very abstract kind of feeling that you know it's like getting lucky.
You can't like force yourself to be lucky, but you can put yourself in a position maybe to get lucky more often. Just like you can't force yourself to feel motivated, but you can be disciplined and you can practice, you know, good habits every day, right? I feel like people confuse the two, right? Uh people do throw around the term of like, oh, he's such a motivated individual. And it's like, sure, I I'm I'm assuming like there are people who more often than not feel motivated. But I think what he's getting at is that if you set your mind to something and you're gonna wake up and do it because you're disciplined, whether you're feeling the motivation that day or not, you know, the couch could easily be calling your name, right? Like the Netflix and chill could easily be calling your name. But if you are disciplined enough to get on your shit that day, to knock out the things that are on your to-do list that day, it doesn't really matter if you're quote unquote motivated. Like that, you know, to your point, as someone of like this abstract, fluffy bullshit term, right?
Like disciplined people get the fucking job done, was his point, right? Um, and I mean, I I totally agree, man. Um, and I think that being disciplined, I think you can you can train yourself to be that way. Sure. With like, you know, as someone who has gone through like bouts of being like a guy who exercises regularly, right? Like, that's probably my hardest one, right? But it but it is true that like if you get yourself into a routine and you become like disciplined enough with your workout regimen or really with anything in in life, I do feel like it's gonna just come second nature to you because you've trained your brain that like this is what we fucking do. It is like a mental switch. And I don't want to say switch to make people think that it just happens. No, because it does not. It's one percent at a time, you know, maybe less than one percent at a time. Yeah. it's little bits for sure. And everyone has that battle in one way or another. And this just is the way that it applies to you and your music career. You know, if this is something that you really want, then you gotta start making these changes bit by bit.
I'm interrupting this podcast with a very special announcement. February 9th, here in Atlanta, Georgia, at the center stage vinyl. We are putting on our very first concert experience featuring headliners, Suave and Ben Riley with support by Will Hill and Cam the Artisan, DJ set by Dos Diaz, hosted by Manny Aquino, all six of which we've interviewed on this podcast. Tickets are available now at OMTpresents.com. Go cop yours today and now back to the episode. I will add this too to that tip when it comes to motivation. And yeah, it's abstract, it's hard to control it. Just like I said, you can put yourself in position to be lucky more often. I think you could put yourself in a position to be motivated more often when you are extra self-aware, man. This is all one big game of self-awareness. If you are doing what you like in your heart because you love to do it, you're gonna be motivated more often. You're gonna get out of bed quicker in the morning. You're gonna you're just gonna be motivated more because it is truly who you are. I think there's some people that maybe rap because they think it's cool and that they like the lifestyle.
You know what I mean? Or or they make beats or they like being in the studio and engineering, whatever it may be, because they think it's cool, but maybe it's not what they love in their heart and they're struggling to stay motivated. I think, yeah, I think the self-awareness. I think the biggest thing though, and sorry, I just got so excited, I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm trying to get you going. I know, I just I feel like I feel like the the issue is with our community specifically, is the whole content thing, bro. The whole making content thing. Oh, definitely. Because what you just talked about, they didn't fucking sign up for. No. And they've been very vocal about it in our comment section. Like y'all have been extremely, you know, like definitive about the fact that like you as artists, majority of you guys did not sign up to be artists and also sign up to be content creators at the same time. So I would say that unfortunately, there are a lot of parts of the job of being a musician, being a producer, being in the creative space that do come with some of those things that like that you don't probably love, bro. I think that's anything though.
That is, and that's where I think people get it twisted, bro. If it's your dream, like you'll make it happen. If you want to be a CEO, you gotta start at the ground floor, you know, doing the grunt work. You got to create databases, hire and fire. And you gotta fire some people. Yeah, you wanna, you know, you want to hold up championships, championship trophies, but you gotta be in the gym every day. You know, you want to like play football with you gotta do this. No, it's true. If you want to act, you gotta practice acting, you gotta go over rehearsed lines. It's like, oh, it didn't sign up for this. No, but that is what's required for the job that you want. For sure. Is it worth it? And I do think that like, you know, just to put this in like a let's set a real goal perspective, right? Like give something a shot for like 90 days straight. Like, seriously, like pick something that you know you have to do that you're not very disciplined around. And I promise you, like, give it a serious, fair chance and then report back to us because I'd love to hear y'all's feedback on like if this works for you or not. But like, I'm I'm subjectively throwing out 90 days.
Pick whatever, like you know, at least longer than a week type goal. We do this all the time. Yeah, like um, oh, you want to manage an artist, like let's try it for six months. Oh, we want to do YouTube clips because people maybe don't want to watch our entire interviews. Let's do clips for six months and see how they go, and then you can kind of reevaluate. But it does take a real chance, giving it a real shot for sure. Seeing if it makes sense, seeing if you get any traction, See if you can see if you trick your brain into like not hating it that much. Yeah, literally, it's like at the end of the day, like if you do something every day, you're gonna be forcing yourself into like finding a way to make it fun or finding a way to like care about how it's going and like succeeding at it. Like, if you're competitive at all, which I assume any of y'all that are in the creative space, like have at least some sort of you know bone in you that wants to win that wants people to hear your art that you know wants you to cut through the noise, like all that shit has to be there. Um or it should be. Uh so I just feel like, yeah, just give it a fucking fair shot.
So this is one big game of brain trickery. It really is, man. All right. This one's huge. This one I couldn't agree with more. And this is some shit I get on you about that you are trash at, but I'm just gonna go ahead and get into it. Okay. Productivity tip number two from Cato on the track. Make a schedule. Yeah. Make a fucking schedule. You want to make content? When are you doing it? Yeah, when are you posting it? When are you editing it? That shit ain't just gonna, you're not just gonna wake up and remember all the shit you gotta do and block off time for it in your own little head. No, like make an actual schedule. Schedule out your personal time too, because I know this is something that's big for you, and it's also big for me. Of course, I have a fucking family. We do need to set boundaries time-wise, right? Like, we do have to include all that stuff in our schedule, so it shouldn't just be like blocked out the whole day for you know, slaving away at work and doing all the things I have to be, you know, be doing and not take any time for myself. But like, bro, you got you gotta make the schedule, man.
And you well hate this. And a lot of people this is productivity tips, bro. And I listen, these are fucking productivity tips. You're gonna unfortunately like what I'm about to say. So if you can just shut up for a second. Yeah, if you are like me and it doesn't come naturally to you, and I am kind of the creative in that way, where you know, the messy room or whatever, and the like, oh, I could make a schedule, or I could just do the thing right now is kind of my natural thought. Find a Ben, find some find a team member, find that person maybe they can help you do it, man. Like they're out there. I love it. I love unfortunately, it does not come naturally to me. But yeah, even the way that our content works right now. We have a whole schedule. These are all the things we've shot. These are all the things we need to shoot. We're posting these three tomorrow. And sure enough, I pull that bitch up every day. And I'm like, all right, what are we doing today? Like it's fucking homework and I love it. It keeps it keeps you on track. It keeps the guessing work to a minimum. Take the anxiety out of it, bro.
I mean, I don't get anxiety from it, but like well, you fucking should. I don't I wish it upon you. But I do. It is nice. It is nice to have. No, but but seriously, guys, like try it. Yeah. Just don't knock it till you try it. Like, seriously, I promise you that it will like be a weight off of your chest if you can just like see your schedule for the day. And you because you can look back at it and know that you accomplished something. It's sometimes very easy for me if I don't have the schedule and I don't have the to-do list and I don't have all the like organizational productivity shit going on. I'll sometimes go through the day and be like, what did I even do? Like, did I even do anything? Like, I feel like I did a fuck ton, but I don't actually know like what I did and like why I was doing it. The other thing is also not getting demotivated if you miss something on your schedule. Because I think this is a big thing. I know it's happened to me before, even with like on the discipline thing too. You miss a day or you get off track a little bit, and then you're like, Well, fuck this altogether. Yeah, I mean, um, yeah, I mean, you have to give yourself grace, bro.
You have to, yeah, for sure. Because none of this is life or death. Let's let's just repeat that. Like, none of this is life or death. Okay. If you and the people you care about are healthy, literally fuck everything else. Like, I try to remind myself of that all the time. Yeah, like these views don't matter. These fucking streams don't matter. Yeah. Like in the grand fucking scheme of things. Like, obviously, we're here to try and do our best and like get y'all to be more productive so that you can get your art heard by as many people around the world as possible. But like still give yourself a fucking break if yeah, you drop off the schedule one day, you miss something that was on your to-do list, whatever the fucking case may be. So all right, moving on to tip number three, collaborate. This was a productivity tip. Interesting. So the way Cato meant it was I think from a producer's perspective, specifically, right? Let's you know, let's let's talk about that. Yes, could you go and make every single fucking beat yourself? Could you work with every single artist on your own?
Could you find the artists yourselves that you want to work with? Could you do all the things yourself? Yes, hypothetically, yes, you can. Uh, but I think what he's getting at is that from a productivity perspective, if we want to accomplish more, why would we not collaborate? Right. So I think you know, the easy, obvious like win here for producers, specifically for y'all out there, like if you work with another producer, whether y'all are making like half the beat each or making you know some of the beat each, or whether you're making the beat and the other producers going to get it placed for you, and you don't have to ever think about DMing or networking and getting in front of artists, you don't have to do any of that because you've got such strong relationships with people that are out in the field. I think there's kind of like those two angles that come to mind from a collaboration perspective. You obviously are you know doing production engineering, like from a collaboration perspective. What are some other like benefits to it, or you know what I mean? Like examples of how it could actually improve the productivity. Sure, yeah.
I mean, content, collaborate on content. Ooh, I mean, I mean, we talk about content being hard all the time. It's Just ideas, yeah, just talking about shit. Um, having a group chat where you bounce around ideas, um, sending a draft of a video and asking how it could be better. Oh shit, like that is pretty simple. We don't do enough of that, bro. I've been saying, bro, we need like a brain trust group. We need to get high mind and NFR and Mr. Beast in a group chat and just like okay. We can actually call two of those three. We don't have Jimmy's phone number. yet. I threw Jimmy in there just out of, you know, like wishing and praying it's the Christmas season. Oh shit, dreams are coming true. Yeah. But um, and then yeah, um, yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously making beats together, getting in the studio together. I think just seeing people, you know, other people that are doing what you're doing is naturally motivating because this can be a very lonely, lonely life path when you're just sitting in front of your screen at home in a dark room with your beats, and you're trying to find the right snare, and then it's you're not finding it, and your chord progression sucks, and uh it's tough, man. So, like, I think just being around other people in general is good.
Yeah, Not for me, but You know where my head's at. You know where I'm going. What's going on? Go ahead. Come on. Let's see how much on the same way we, you know, wavelength we are. Come on, bro. What do I always preach for us? Starts with a B. Baloney. God damn it. Batch create, bro. Come on. Batch create and batch edit, okay? Yeah, yeah. So literally, what's that have to do with collaborating though? No, okay, sorry. I was moving on to like other tips. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I was literally just like okay. I was literally just like, okay, what is, I was still on the collab thing. Which let me let me add real quick to the collab thing before we go to other tips. Okay. Um finding the right people to collaborate with. Not collaborating with anyone for anything is not the way. It could hurt the productivity. I think you can give anyone a shot, yeah, but knowing who is like reciprocating your energy, who is lifting you up, who is working as hard as you, um, just throw that on there. So yeah, okay. For sure. Okay, so we're on our tips now. Yeah, yeah. Cause I was like, all right, Kato, you got,
you got some good ones on there. Okay. That's some good ones I agree with for sure. But I feel like the batch, just doing anything in batch, I feel like is extremely helpful when it comes to productivity. Like, you know, we're we're talking about productivity right now. I think that that is really gonna take you to the next level as far as like increasing your output and making sure you're more productive. So whether you're an artist, like obviously getting like, you know, batch studio time, maybe, right? Like you're gonna get maybe better rates, you're gonna like come up with more ideas, you're gonna be like in the like studio mode more often, right? Versus like other days. I think batch mixing. How do you how do you combat burnout? I mean, you're gonna feel burnout. All this doing anything creative at any sort of pace is gonna be I my favorite days are where I'm editing some content, now I'm making a beat, then I maybe mix a record, like then I make another beat. At least like changing brains occasionally helps me out. Then I'm on Photoshop.
Like I just I just think when it comes to productivity, it's just not the way, bro. Well, it is it is if you get burnt out. That's that's my whole argument. Yeah, but I don't but going back to the like actually trying, you've never been disciplined enough to try batch anything for any extended period of time. That's why I don't do it. No, you have not. All right, we're not gonna fucking argue about this on this podcast because let's get into it. Bullshit, bullshit. But no, for those that aren't pussies, uh try batch doing whatever it is that you do, okay. Like, and I think specifically around content, like I really do think that like if y'all dread it, why would you want to have to do a little bit of it every single day? So, like that sounds like fucking torture to me. Like, if you're if you're not that jazzed about the thing that maybe you need to get done, and then once again, this is productivity, being productive. I do think that like let's fucking slot out six hours straight to shoot as many fucking content ideas as we can. Would you rather get tortured all day or get a little tortured every day? I guess that is the question.
But no, man, that was the only one I really wanted to add, to be honest. I think he had some good ones. I think his are very good. You know, I think I think the other tips are more on the left brain side and about like, you know, more spiritual and and creative, you know. I think you should be like having life experiences and stuff that will and and listening to other types of music and um, you know, just doing things that will expand your palate kind of more on that side. But I think he nailed the like stuff that comes harder for creatives, which I think is the most important shit because most creatives already have that. They're creatives. So yeah, I feel like this isn't even about I feel like your tips would probably be more about like how to improve the quality of the output. This is literally just like how do we get more shit done? Yeah. Just like you know, even if it's all bad, even if it's all bad, like how do we get more of the shit that you're doing done, right? Um, so yeah, I I don't want to even go there because I think that's for another episode, but you're absolutely right. There are so many things that you can do to actually like increase the quality of the output, which in in turn could, of course, as a byproduct increase the total output as well, right? As if you're getting better,
If you're getting better at things, clearly you could probably be doing more of it. You gotta have quantity of quality. Yep, for sure. All right. Moving into the take of the episode. Um I just was like looking at a bunch of like quote unquote like online beat sellers, right? Like producers that do very well in like the online beat sales space. And I just I think we've talked about this before a lot off camera, honestly. When you know, when you were considering should you be selling beats online, like should you be leasing beats, you know, going that that route. Um, you know, is is selling beats online inferior to landing like official major label or whatever placements, right? Absolutely not. Absolutely not, Absolutely not, and yet they do get shit on. They get they get shit on bro. They catch a lot of strays. People look at them as inferior, they absolutely do, and I think that's completely unfair. I decided I didn't really think it was for me. I might change my mind, I might want to go to that at some point. Yeah, but I feel like a lot of my answers in these talks are gonna come down to self-awareness, like knowing who you are, what you want, everything is always determined by your goals. If you're happy sitting in your room, you don't want to meet any rappers, no singers, you don't want to be in the studio, or you live in the middle of nowhere and you can't afford to go anywhere else.
And but you can make beats in your spare time, you love doing it, and you can sell the same beat not exclusively infinite times and make theoretically infinite money from your art, and you're doing and you're making like six figures doing that. I you're probably a pretty happy person, bro. You're like, you're winning. Yeah, you're winning more than the guy that is got in the studio at the right time and got one and got track nine on a you know, on like a young boy album and made a little bit of money, but it's stressing out and not getting paid and trying to figure everything out, and and you know, is just having no other motion besides they can put YB in their bio, you know, like congratulations. But yeah, it's just it's Hey, why be better? Why be always better? Why be is infinitely better? Why be better shirts coming soon? Yeah. Fuck we need those. But but yeah, so it, you know, look it look within yourselves and decide what you want, what it is that works for you because um, you know, the there's a lot of paths out there these days. There's a million ways to be a producer. And maybe you want to do two or three of them, but I think giving all of them a try, considering the long term routes of all of them and going from there.
Yeah. I agree, man. I mean, I I know they catch a lot of strays. Um, they get a lot of shit. They're making more money than the placement producers. I would argue on average. On average, probably. Bro, there's nothing like uh because there's nothing like getting a beat star sale notification, like when you're just in the middle of dinner or something. Ding! Yeah, 50 bucks, like let's go. That'll that'll pay for my Uber home. That's the fastest anyone in the music industry ever gets paid. Oh, yeah. I think the I think I think the obvious one is speed to speed to cash. For sure. Like You get money straight up. Literally, you're getting it before the product leaves your fucking beat stars platform, you know what I mean? And selling the same beat infinite times. Yeah. Kidding me. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, like does it water down the art? Maybe if there's a bunch of songs using the same beat, but if the artists are okay with it, and you know, kind of is up to the artists to make their song the most widely recognized popular one at that point, you know. It's not on the producer. Yeah, I I still think it just comes down to exactly what you said, right?
It's like, you know, what are you good at, right? Uh I think that the most successful uh online beat sellers are extremely good at digital marketing, right? They really understand the whole like funnels and they have you know a lot of like email marketing uh expertise, right? Like they they know how to do that, right? There's a lot of people that we know like personally who are like the placement people that don't really post content, don't even know what digital marketing means. But they're friends with everyone and they're in all the right rooms. Exactly. Yeah, and and and they've got that that sauce when it comes to like being in the studio in person. Yes. They've got the you know interpersonal skills, right? Because half the battle is just being not weird, right? Like literally, like everyone's good at producing. Like so many people are good at music. Like the bar is not set there. Like it really is about how good do you like curate the vibe? It's all that's something we always talk about, whether you're an engineer or a producer or shit, another fucking artist in the room. Like you need to make sure that you aren't ruining the vibe. Like, if anything, you need to be like elevating the vibe so that they remember, like, oh shit, we we need Henry there because like when he came in the room, shit got like more fun, or like the music got better, like the energy got better, whatever the case may be.
Yep. Um, so I just think it's yeah, it's really like fuck inferior, like superior. It doesn't, it doesn't that that's not even that can't be a conversation. Stop hating that. Yeah, y'all a bunch of hating ass motherfuckers. Because. Damn. Internet. Not you guys, I'm not talking to you guys. Not y'all out. Not you, but you know, everyone else. Y'all appreciate us and the beat sellers online. Yeah, um, but no, it's it's just about you know, what are you good at and what you what do you want to do? And also do both. These aren't mutually exclusive. Also, I that's what I wanted to make sure we pointed out. Yeah, like everyone thinks this is a black or white conversation. It's like, no, there's definitely gray areas where someone like a Kato on the track, he was just in the studio with a Guapdad 4000, for example, right? Like he's been in studios with big artists, but he's also sold beats online and he's built content like businesses, whatever, right? Like, there's so many examples of people who have done both. Um, so I don't really think you need to pigeonhole yourself into to either one, but I do think that like looking at yourself in the mirror and like figuring out what it is that you actually are good at, and to your point, like geographically speaking, are you in the right places to be in rooms? Like, are you good at the whole DM networking thing?
If you're not geographically in the right rooms, right? Like, are you seeing success sending out packs? Like, just like look at yourself in the mirror. Like, like take take a hard look and just be like, well, what am I actually good at? What do I want to be doing every day? Like, what gets me excited to your point so I don't burn out, right? Like, all these are questions you need to ask. But no, like the answer is definitively no. They're not inferior, they're not superior. They're just fucking doing it differently, just like artists who tour really well versus artists who stream really well versus artists who you know make content really well versus those that have huge merch companies. Exactly. There's just so many different routes, so many different ways to do it. Like by the way, where did the term pigeonhole come from? Oh God, we're not doing that. Um, but so just to wrap up with a little bit of bullshit. I feel like on another episode we talked about how excited I was to put up my Christmas lights. It was like something I had never done. I had always been jealous of like the houses that had like super dope Christmas lights. I'm not even Christian, but it's just something I really wanted to do.
Um, you and I were talking about this a little bit off camera. I wanted to just get this on wax. Like, when when do I need to, you know, take them down? Take them down. No, this is exactly my bullshit almost. When do I need to take them down, bro? We have this we have almost the same exact experience. Let's just talk about this topic. When do I need to take them down? Okay, okay. No, I'm gonna say mine and then we'll answer them together. Okay, fine, go ahead. I was gonna say, how long is too long to be listening to Christmas music? Oh fuck. Okay. All right, first things first. When do I need to take the lights down? In my opinion, and and I think I feel like people are gonna disagree. The lights to me are a lot more tolerable than the music. Oh, I like the lights. I don't know why we don't have them year-round. It's fine with me. It's amazing. Like a Christmas tree, maybe not, but like white lights, you know. So happy, bro. What's wrong with like white light? If you go crazy with the colors, maybe it gets a little tacky, but if you like that, do you like white lights on a house, like lining the fucking like that's cool. What's wrong with it?
I love it. I'm gonna maybe keep mine up year round. I listen, if you're okay with that light bill. I fuck. I haven't really seen I haven't done the math yet to see how much has been putting me by. Probably an extra, you know, 20 bucks a month. It's not gonna kill you. Oh, it's worth it. It's not gonna kill you. It's worth the joy. All right, but Christmas music. Yeah. It's done. Done out. Done now. This is number 26th. Done. It's over. Don't play me another fucking song. Don't do it. And I like Christmas music. That I kind of like it. Yeah. I really do. Yeah. But it's it's over. I think it's it's over, right? It's toast. I I don't want anything to I know. I didn't want to listen to it ever. I better not hear goddamn jingle bells or what about your tree? If people that have a tree, I guess. Oh. You can leave your tree up till like the end. Past New Year's. End of the year. Yeah. Past New Year's. Yeah. First week. Just like New Year's. First week of January. You get it out. You need to be thinking about getting it out. It needs to go in the chipper. Yeah. We recycle. This podcast is green. Yeah, yeah, for sure. As always, this is an audio only exclusive episode of the podcast. Uh, we just wanted to do these for you guys because A, we don't like uh taking up like 50 gigs of uh data every time.
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