How to 20x Your Streams, Drake's Genius-Level Marketing, & Pumpkin Patches

We are trying something a little bit new today. I don't know. What are we trying? We're trying to actually deliver against our like motto. Which is gems takes and bullshit. Oh, that's fire. Who came up with that. You came up with this. Gems takes and bullshit? Tell me more. Okay. Is this a ploy to get me to just like pat you on the back? Because it's not gonna work. I'll take a pat. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, so we're gonna start off with some gems. Then we're gonna move our way into, you know, some takes, right? And then we're gonna wrap up the episode with just some bullshit. So some couple random fucking things that have probably nothing to do with music, likely. No, but we're real humans outside of people, and we have ideas and opinions outside of music sometimes, contrary to popular belief. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we do eat, sleep, and breathe the music business at this point, but sometimes we do other things, and you know very rarely. I've got a family, et cetera. Anyways, so let's get into the gems. Yeah, yeah.

First topic. Um, you know, hopefully you guys think these are gems, by the way. Like, we think they're helpful and they're observations that we've kind of noticed, you know, throughout the week or whatever. Um, so we have an independent artist friend, shout out Gabriel Averitt. Gabe. Um, who basically, you know, consistently releases music. And over the years, I would say that um, you know, his stream counts, let's say have it been anywhere between like 5,000 and you know, 20,000 streams per song. Which once again, independent artist doing his damn thing. Hell yeah. But he most recently released a song called I Like It, I Love It. Well, he's released music since then, but sure. we that's the notable one we're talking about. Okay, so the song we're talking about, he you know, he released, it's called I Like It, I Love It. Yes. And it's creeping up on a hundred thousand streams on Spotify alone. Above the norm. Above the norm. And so he basically posted something about like, hey, like, y'all must really fuck with this record. Like, like what's it about this song that y'all like so much? Like, why is this doing so well? And I had this light bulb moment where I was like, huh.

Let's let's break this down. Let's let's dissect like how it is that you released this song and how it is that you most importantly promoted and marketed this song, right? So I kind of did some like Sherlock Holmes shit where I'm scrolling through his Instagram feed, I'm I'm scrolling through his TikTok, I'm looking at like past releases, the ones that have done 5,000 to 20,000 streams, and I'm like, how many times did this dude you know post about the song? How many videos did he make promoting the record? Um, you know, using the sound in different pieces of content, right? Like, what's the total output when it came to his content marketing for his past releases? I mean, just as his producer and engineer for many years, yeah. I could have told you without the Sherlocking, he promoted the hell out of that song. Holy shit. Way more posts, way more talking about it. Like, I think there was a lot more thought put into it, right? Um, the quantity, the quality, the creative, it was all there for that one. Yeah, I mean, he was not only once again, like super excited and passionate about the release, so like that's gem number one of this of like release shit that you like.

You have to you have to be so excited about it, yeah, that it leads to part number two, it leads to the output that it requires for a song to actually pick up any sort of traction. Like, we're we're in the business as independent artists of releasing music and gaining the attention of listeners, and that's hard to fucking do. Like, I really empathize with the journey y'all have to be on to compete with Drake, compete with J. Cole, compete with 21 Savage, Travis Scott, whatever. Because you are that is what it is. You are competing with these people. Like, that's what it is that's just what it is. That's literally all it is. Like, listeners only have so many hours in the day to listen to music. Yep. So when they're making the choice, do I listen to a superstar A-list artist who is a household name who I'm constantly, constantly getting marketed to, who I'm constantly hearing about in the press and the tabloids, et cetera. Or am I gonna listen to this, you know, independent artist that I might have stumbled across on TikTok scroll or popped up on my IG reels. And for you to gain that attention, you have to be on their fucking ass.

Ass. Like you gotta be like the output has to be incredible. So for you, it was no surprise that this song had the most streams. It was it was so obvious once I thought about it, but at first I was like, huh, maybe this was just a cooler song. Which is possible too. Maybe it resonated with people more as well. It's an option. But like, no, this dude has I mean, you've made a lot of music with him. He's got really amazing songs that I wouldn't argue are like any worse. He gave people more opportunities to resonate with it by putting out more content. So, like whether a song is good or not, you could have the best song in the world. If you are not giving people the chance to resonate with it by not giving them the opportunity of listening to it by making content, putting yourself, putting your song in front of the people, then yeah, you're then it's likely that people less people will connect with it, even if it is a better song, whatever that means. Yeah, and for me, it's it's two parts, right? It's one gaining new fans. So, to your point, the more content that you're putting out, the more chances you have to organically reach new audience. Okay, but the second part is just getting your own fucking audience that you already have excited about the record.

If you post about it over and over again and post creatively, I'm not talking, I'm not talking just post the cover art 10 times. I'm not saying post the same type of clip from the music video 10 times. He got real creative with it. No one hates anything more than a fucking new music out now post. It's the worst, but no one can hate on you being creative, you trying something new, you being innovative with the way that you are like, you know, including your new song into the content. So this dude just like I remember brainstorming all the ideas with him at the beginning of the release. And so it's really no surprise to me that that song has done significantly better. Because once again, he's had songs that have done more streams, but he was with a label that was buying streams and shit. So like don't fucking go find this guy like, well, that's not even a top song. Well, don't downplay him either, though. No, I know, but I'm just saying, like, this is independent. Yeah, like this is on his own. He got this no paid, no paid playlist. Yes, nothing. This is organic as fuck because he had tons of content that did well on social media.

And so for me, that was just like it was almost like a proud moment where I was like, man, this shit really does work. Just a confirming, like, yes, we've always known this is it, but to see it in action is very helpful. For sure. For sure. What else we got on the list? Yeah. So this kind of perfectly segues into um someone tweeted this recently, and I want to start shouting out the people that we like. Because once again, we're kind of just like conduits. I mean, that was an experience we've actually both been through like firsthand, but a lot of the shit we we see and we soak up game We steal. We we we're just students of the game, and so we're trying to like pass the you know info along. If you hear something that's beneficial and you tell someone else about it, it's like why wouldn't you? Am I a thief or am I uh yeah, a conduit to use your very SAT-esque word right there? Well, I don't mean to sound you know too smart, yeah. Exactly. But no, basically, someone tweeted about like there's nothing worse than when an artist spends a ton of time and a ton of money recording and and making a song. I mean, you guys are paying for studio time, you're paying for the beat sometimes, you're paying for the mix, the master.

Um, you know, you're paying for the cover art, you're paying for the video shoot, you know, whatever, right? There's nothing worse than when you go through all of that time and money spent just to basically release it and go ghost. Mm. Mm. Mm. Put insert sound effective. I wish I could reach the soundboard and I knew which one it was. It's the green one. Okay. Why it's too far. Do it. Okay, fine. Hold on. All right. Worth it. And I just hit the camera, but that's okay, because this is audio only. Yes. Except for the clips. Should I check? You can maybe go check the uh camera Damn it. but no, so basically, um, there's nothing worse than when you know an artist spends a ton of time and a ton of money uh, you know, making a song just to release it and go ghost. So my question to you, Henry, is you know, we just talked about Gabe, who probably put out, I don't know, it's gotta be 20, 50 pieces of content, you know, surrounding the I Like It, I Love It record that he promoted. How many pieces of content do you think is like good enough?

Yeah. It's just actually putting a number on it, huh? That's kind of tough. I mean, yeah, it is, and I think there's a couple ways to unpack it, but I just yeah, if you had to just throw out a number, like, hey, on average, guys, like if we could just get this many pieces of content to to market a record, like let's let's say at least shoot for that. What are you saying? I think minimum if you're really giving a record a shot and you're creative, and every piece of creative is a little different, and you really thought about it, 15 to 25 pieces of content. Let's go, bro, is like gonna give you an idea of like either people are resonating with this record or they're not. And if they're not, it's okay. But giving each record a chance, even the records, and this is a big one too. Even the records that you might not think are the ones. Yeah. Because our same guy, Gabe, had an old record called My Brother. Yeah, he didn't really put any thought into, or you know, that much thought into anyway. He obviously liked the song, dropped it on an album, but it started picking up traction, and people were like using it as an audio to, you know, have a video with them and their bro, you know, like, oh, that's my guy, that's my brother. And to Amber Grimes' point, who we just interviewed, responding to what people are giving you.

I'm so happy you just said this. Is everything he didn't do it? He didn't, he did, he did. He did a little bit, but not enough. Me. He could have gone harder. I'm gonna, I'm calling him after I swear to God, dude. You just said that, and I was like, oh my god, Amber just talked about this. About like if you like, be a freak about studying your Spotify for Artists data, right? Because even the smallest little pop in a song, you should start to be like, what's happening here? Yeah, and how do I capitalize on that? How do I respond to it? So he would have never known if he wasn't checking his, you know, mentions and or you know, Spotify for artists data. Sound uses and whatnot on TikTok, Instagram. Yeah, but he probably could have easily also seen that it was doing well on streaming, sure. Right. And so he could have gone to Spotify for artists, gone to Apple Music for Artists, seen kind of the spike or at least the upward trajectory or the consistency of streams on that song, and he could have easily then been like, boom, light bulb moment. I should be leaning into this, and I should be making sure that my brother is, you know, pinned to my Spotify profile, is the link in my bio for a while while I'm kind of leaning into this record.

So I'm literally calling Gabe after this and being like, Yeah, dude, you should probably give that song a go. Like, he never really gave it a shot once he saw that it was working. Because you can't control what people respond to. You can't control what goes viral. You can't control what trends. But to Amber's point, you can control how you respond to it. And if something is starting to pick up steam, you your full focus should be on adding fuel to that fire. You should be just fueling it and funneling and channeling that. Like this is obviously working. You don't have to agree with the reasons that it works. You don't have to even it doesn't have to be your favorite song in your catalog. If you're out here trying to make it as an artist, you're looking for any and every reason to monetize anything and get streams and get fans. So if this is working, like the people that are winning are finding what's working and giving their full effort and leaning all the way into any little piece of anything that might be working. If you see that something has a proof of concept, I'm gonna use the term proof of concept, right? POC.

POC, not to the business world, right? Not the other, it's weird that you use a piece of crap. What's the other POC? Isn't it a person of color or am I just making that up? I'm just saying, I just heard My Indian friend said that. I had never heard that. Really? No. Not abbreviated. I mean, maybe I'm making this up, but I'm like, or I mean, he made it up. So oh my god. All right, let's go to let's go to the next one. Okay, we're going to the next one. I mean, if you want to take that out, you can, but if not, I think you should probably leave it in. It's kind of funny. All right, so we've been going to a few events recently. We're trying to get out of our comfort zone, guys. We're trying to leave the one more time studio. It's tough. I don't like the world. I don't like the people that are out there a lot of times. but Contrary to that belief, we met a lot of cool people. We interviewed a lot of um, you know, dope artists and dope just you know, fans of the events that we were at. Um, and so we did interview a lot of people who who were artists, right? And one question that we asked over and over again was who's your favorite artist?

Who's your favorite artist or who's your favorite new artist, even right? And I was a little disappointed as as to like the responses I was getting. And why is that, Ben? Okay. See, I thank you for I never thought you'd ask, Henry. Um, so I I just think when someone asks you, if you're an artist, if someone asks you who's your favorite new artist right now, that's such a uh an opportunity to let them into your world and really understand who you are creatively, who inspires you, give them a glimpse into something that that's beyond you, or basically who who makes you you, right? And I was a little disappointed as to the amount of answers that I got where it was just that artist told me that their favorite artist was them. Yeah. I was a little bummed. I obviously, you know, you should think you are your you're the best artist. You should be like super hyped on you and you're at an event, you're pop your shit, you're at a networking event, pop your shit. That's great.

But when you really break it down, telling someone that you are your own favorite artist doesn't actually tell them anything about you. And the way to get people into your world is to tell people about you and things that are unique and things that like some people might not agree with, but some people will. And it can be divisive, but the people that you know that you don't get, they were never gonna be super fans anyway. Fuck them. And the people that do agree, boom, they're that much deeper into your world. If you say you're, you know, you're your favorite artist. I'm like, okay, cool. I'm moving on. If you say, like, oh, I'm super inspired by Kid Cudi and Radiohead, I'm like, oh shit, like, okay. Like, like I want to know more. Like, I'm now I'm picturing what a kid Cudi Radiohead song sounds like, and now maybe I might go stream you. And you know, that little insight is enough to like spark my curiosity. So yeah, I agree. It is a moment where you should give them something to look into your lives. People want more than the music. They want to know who you are, what you're about.

And that's a moment where maybe some people fell flat at these events. And I mean, you know, I think that you can maybe do both, right? You can definitely, like, definitely say who you are. So, first of all, I'm my favorite artist, but I also like honestly. It sounds like but like, but do it that way. Maybe yeah. You like, I mean, of course, like you should go check out you know, XYZ artists, you know, and it's them. Yeah, but then you should let people into your world, man. So that that was just something I I noticed, and it kind of like irked me, where I was like, ah, like I just want better for those artists, right? Because you're already introducing yourself, or we're asking who who are we here with? Like, so we're we got that out of the way. We know who you are, right? So now let's let's take that a step further. Because you just telling us that we're your favorite artist doesn't to your point give anything else. And when you chopped up the compilation of all the people answering who their favorite artist was, guess what? I left out the people that answered themselves. You didn't even make the clip. All right, that was a hot take. How dumb do you feel now? That was a hot take.

Sorry. Moving in to the actual takes the actual takes take section. Let's go. Is J. Cole the best feature artist of our generation? Let's fucking go. Yes, next question. That easy, that easy. Kind of. I mean, dude, like no Wayne for you. I mean, of our generation, like, yeah, Wayne's my favorite artist ever, but Cole has a way. I mean, dude, just looking at this year, you got the first person shooter with Drake. Yeah, you got the Lil Yachty, you got the um All My Life, Durk. All my life with Dirk. That's just this year. Like, those are all bangers. They're they're bangers, sure. I mean, the Yachty one, I don't know. Hey, produced by my guy Raw Bones. So shout out Rocky. Okay, cool. Clout move. Anyways. But the All My Life record is going stupid. We talked about kids singing on the chorus being a cheat code. Cheat code. So that song is incredible. And then obviously, first person shooter. Yeah. I listened to that song on the way here because it's that good. Oh, it is that good. Yeah.

Sure. I mean, it's a very high point on that album for sure. But something about the way Cole takes a feature, and it's not just like another facet of his job. Like, oh, I need to do this feature to advance my career. He doesn't, it doesn't feel like it's work. It feels like a challenge to him. Yeah. It feels like he's like, how can I outdo this artist? How can I shine the most? He really takes his time. And I don't maybe he's just that good. He is. But he fucking is. On the field. He's not even my favorite like discography artist. Do you like his features better than his own shit? Say it ain't so. Pound for pound? Say it ain't so. Pound for pound? Okay. But okay, I mean, just some other notables. Like, speaking of Drake, I mean, Drake's got an incredible feature run. Very good feature run. Holy shit. I mean, he bodied Harlow on his own shit. Drake, uh, uh, what's called Churchill Downs Freestyle. Uh, he's on sicko mode. Yeah.

Jesus. Fucking problems, ASAP Rocky. Of course. Versace remix, Poetic Justice with K Dot. I mean, stay scheming with Ross. I'm on one, Call it. I mean, the dude is a feature beast. So just to tap back into the gems for a quick second. If you're on a song with someone, we can't go back to the gems, Henry. Don't just do it to do it. Like, make a point to fucking outdo that artist on their own shit. You will look like a G. People will stream you and go look for you. Like, make it a friendly, you know, it's a competition, but it should be a friendly competition. Oh my god. But dude, I just I'm just so bummed you didn't say Wayne. Like, I mean, dude, let's number two. Let's I don't think number two. I don't think Cole holds a candle to really to Wayne's flame. Uh, I mean, dude, we taking over Khaled, swagger like us with TI, Hollywood divorce with Ross. I'm on one with Khaled as well. Uh that one was okay. Duffle Bag Boys would play the circle, back that ass up with juvenile. That's basically a Wayne song.

Fucking yeah, but like, dude, are you kidding me? But Wayne has discography, bro. Like, Wayne has this. He has the fucking, he's the best on his own shit. He's great on features, but Are those mutually exclusive? Maybe. What? So because he has a fire discography, we can't keep him in the feature artist conversation? Maybe Cole's features stand out because his discography is not as strong. Okay, you're just not a Cole fan. Cooking. That's a mid take. I am a Cole fan. That's a mid take. All right. Discography. Last last contender in my book, and once again, y'all tell us in the comments which feature Vert Yeah or Eminem. which feature artist is the best. Uh Kanye. Yeah. I mean, it had to be one of them. Put on with Jeezy. Should I just stop after that? Uh the whole flow about the uh the safe sex. Cause You don't want that late text that I think I'm late text. I mean, dude, run this town with Jay-Z. Sure. Should I stop? Forever with Drake.

He doesn't do a lot of features though. I feel like forever with Drake. Should I stop? Forever with Drake, yeah. Birthday song with Jeremih? Should I stop? Forgot. Easy, easy, how you doing? Like Super Dad is there to be greedy, huh? Anyway, so yeah, let us know in the comments. Uh, which artist is the best feature artist of our generation? I mean, I'm not even the biggest J. Cole fan. I think it's Cole, bro. It might be Cole. All right, moving on. Moving on. Yeah. Uh, mysterious artists. And we're talking, you know, you know who we're talking about. I would tell you to go hit the can't keep going. Fuck it up before you. You can't keep going to the soundboard. Yeah. But yeah, mysterious artists, explain what we mean. Um, I have no posts on my Instagram. I wear Poosh Ice T masks. I only pop up for one show a year. I only drop one album every two years. You guys aren't as cool as you think you are. I mean, maybe you are cool, but you're also broke. Whoa. Usually it's me coming in hot like this. Holy shit, Henry. I know.

Chill out. All right. No, I I mean, I like respectfully. Respectfully. Yeah, I don't want to be able to do it. Very respectfully. I don't want to come at you all like that. But I do think that, you know, unfortunately, like I wish that, you know, that mystique maybe still worked, right? Because there is something cool about it. Like, it worked for some artists over the years. It worked for the gorillas, it worked for Daft Punk, it worked for Dead Mouse. Sure. It's kind of working for like, you know, I mean, Playboi Carti's not like mysterious, but he's like, he doesn't do content and shit. Like it's cool. One out of a million, it works for. Yeah. But if you want a real shot at this, you cannot make being that one in a million your strategy. Exactly. It's just not a good strategy to bank on because it is so rare. And because the artists that people are latching on to in Groves, can I use groves? I don't think you should. Are people that are sharing you can more about their lives? Yeah. We want people to want to know about you. Just not just the music.

I I love how you put it. Uh, it's it's a statistics game at this point. Like, by all means, we want you guys to make what you want to make, uh, act how you want to act, you know, market yourself however you want to market yourself, because you gotta live and die by that, you know, uh, strategy. But I do think that like if you're putting bets, if you're placing bets on an artist. I'm not going with the mysterious motherfucker. You're not. You're going with the person that's active as hell, that's letting fans into their lives, yes, that's posting content after content after content, yes, you know, releasing music after music after music, right? I mean, I just think that that's what works better on average these days. I mean, it's just it is it's a numbers game. If you're a Kansas basketball fan and you're posting uh, you know, sad videos every time they lose. If you like making clay sculptures, like and you show yourself with the pottery bar and like doing the wheel, like whatever the fuck it is about you, and it's usually the things that people think make them weird. Those are usually the things that make you stand out and build serious fans. Your awkward little things about yourself, your isms, it's your str your isms are your strength, your tism.

Okay, well, that's that's different. When you add the T to it, it becomes a little different, I think. But oh man, what have I done? What have you done? Okay, moving on, moving on. So we were at uh you know, we were at an event, it's called Unlock 404, super dope event. I really hope they do this every year. Me too, man. It was the first annual. It was uh sponsored by anyone and their fucking mother, like big ass brands. I'm talking like Chase, I'm talking, you know, tequila, you know, super tequila brands, live nation. Live Nation. I mean, like, I don't even want to do it. It was sponsored by UTA, which is a talent agency. Smartwater, etc. It was at the overtime elite arena, which for those that aren't familiar, it's like a a paid high school borderline professional league that basically like you know is an incubator for kids that want to go straight to the league, pretty much, right? Like they they're getting paid to play in this league and they're getting some education along the way. They get boarding and class, it was crazy.

I was learning about it there, and I was like, this is phenomenal. And the arena, the venue was incredible. But shout out Dan Porter. Yeah, exactly. Dan the man. Um, so Justice Bazden from uh LVRN, he's the head of AR at LVRN, LVRN's home to Summer Walker, 6LACK, uh, DeVito, WESTSIDE BOOGIE, Baby Tate now, um, etc. Right. Um, he basically talked about how uh talented artists are extremely terrible marketers. Okay, and so superstar artists are those that are extremely talented but have figured out the marketing side of this business. Tell them justice. Yeah, so so that shit resonated so much. He used the example of Michael Jackson, was not only an extremely talented artist, but the dude was top-tier fucking marketer, like insane next level marketer. All right, the gloves, the moonwalking, the dangling the baby out over the fucking balcony. Those were all I don't know if I agree with that one, but I mean, I'm just saying like it it got attention.

It did. And marketing is all about getting eyeballs on you, right? We're not telling you to dangle your baby off off a balcony. No, but like if you have a small dog or so, I don't know. Jeez. No, but basically, you know, um, it it brought up a conversation amongst you and I talking about how Drake is clearly one of the superstar artists of our generation, and it's not just again, once it's not just once again because he's extremely talented, it's because the dude is he's a genius marketer, in my opinion, man. But the reason this is a take is because we were debating whether or not some things are money for fun. Is the money for money for fun? Money for fun kicking up the feet money for fun. Yeah, I mean money for fun. And it and it started with the you know, 21. Can you do something for me okay now you're just calling him spicy no that's what the world is calling him with these memes no I'm not but but are but is is this calculated you know would he degrade himself like that on purpose do you think he started the memes I don't I think you're reading into the whole degradation side of this too much right like I think that once again the dude is calculated so yeah I think that he was doing something that was off putting to that record to be talked about you think he said money for fun because it would become a meme though no like the world had to find that and embrace that and make it a thing you know but do you but do you think he responded to it well uh the response we talk about the response a lot response is big I don't know if he's responded to the money for fun shit yet I would love to see what he has to say about it though let's let's use an example of something he absolutely was in control of okay he helped his son Adonis release his debut single my man freestyle my man free style okay and all right is it just coincidence that this follows up his new album release of For All The Dogs I think fucking not of course not this dude is he's leaning into Adonis bro yeah of course Adonis had a moment on the record yeah and so Drake and his team of course are thinking hey how can we you know blow that up how you know how can we make that that bit larger than life like so I don't know if it was a response thing where they noticed that it was getting some sort of traction and they really quickly you know brought this record to life this whole my man freestyle and the video. They did a video shoot, first of all.

It was fire. Like Adonis was starring in that chip. What do you think about the song? I mean, it's a horrible song. Come on. man. He's like six years old. So, like, shout out to him. I mean, like, keep going, bro. Keep going. No, he's got potential. I mean, he's gonna be an industry player, of course, at some point, but it's not even like a fair, it's just nepotism. Industry nepotism. But no, man, I just think like take a page out of Drake's playbook, y'all. Like, you know, we don't like to tell you guys to like look at Drake and what he's doing as gospel because you're not him and not all the tactics can apply. But I think that he is just representative of if you can make noise, if you can do that, you can do something that's gonna be talked about, yeah. Like do that thing. Whether or not Halle Berry was in on the the scissor record cover, and she knew that, you know, or she was gonna come out and say, like, hey, why'd you use my face with green slime on it from the Nickelodeon Awards cover? Or like that he knew he was gonna maybe not be able to drop the album until after tour.

Like, was that planned from the beginning? It doesn't really matter, it's all just what gets people, yeah, hype and gets people talking like we are right now. It caused us to talk about it on the One More Time podcast. So clearly he's doing something right, and for sure, just apply it at your level, like just be realistic in that like no one's gonna read into oh, did your cover art mean to be this, that, and the third, or whatever. If you're not Drake. If you're not Drake, but the the principles apply though. Yes, like you can use that approach and think, hey, how can I do something where I'm at in my career to get a small amount of people talking about you? Because your goal is to basically get people talking about you and have that group grow over time. Like that, it's like the when you when you break it down to the most basic shit, like your job is to get you know, a person to talk about you and you know, fuck with what you got going on, then these two people, four people, eight people, you know, and you know, and so on and so on, right? Um, so just apply that as much as you can. I know that's like I don't know, it's a bullshit.

Like, you know, just apply it as much as you can. Well, we're getting to the bullshit section, so I guess it's appropriate. Okay, nice, nice segue. Yeah. All right. So this is where we basically talk to you about you know shit that's been going on, shit we've been thinking about, random thoughts, random topics. What you got? So, my recent, you know, my weekend was spent um, you know, planning a trip to a pumpkin patch. So I've got a I've got an 18-month-old kid, and we're always looking for you know, what can you do to keep him entertained? Does he even know what a pumpkin is? Oh, he can say pumpkin now, so fuck you. That was a really condescending. Yeah, my kid's smart. I'm sorry. I can't say your name yet. You know if you played a real uncle figure in his life, you know. what I mean? I do. He he sees me and he says, ball. Cause he wants to play. Maybe next time he'll say pumpkin. Okay, I'd love to see it. Your orange fucking glasses, and you kind of look like a pumpkin. They're red, and fuck you. Okay. Anyway, so I've never been to a I don't know. Like I mean, I've p I've picked out a pumpkin in my life, but I don't think I've ever really been to they're more than just picking a pumpkin though. They have they'll have right, like some of them have like rides and shit.

Yeah, this was like, bro, okay, So we, we, We Googled this shit, and we were like, all right, pumpkin patch near me. And this farm that's like an hour outside of the city pops up, and it was strange. You drove an hour for a pumpkin. I yeah, just wait. Okay. So it was strange because there was like 4,000 Google reviews. The next best one had like 200. Yeah. So I was like, what the fuck's going on at this pumpkin patch? Like at this farm. That's the one. So I was like, all right. Like maybe they paid for you know, reviews. I don't know what the fuck the you know the case may be. We pull up, swear to god, it was like a tailgate. Like, bro, there was like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cars. There had to have been 500 people, if not like a thousand people. It was insane. There was lines to get in, there was lines at every single attraction, right? So there's farm animals, there's corn mazes, there's bubble fucking exhibits, there's the pumpkin patch itself is like one little tiny part. There's wagon rides and shit, and every single thing had a fucking line, bro.

Yeah, so we're like so surprised that this is a huge thing that apparently a ton of people do, and like there was no, you know, there was no shit that this had thousands of reviews. Cause I was like, if 1% of the people today at 4 p.m. on a Sunday leave a review over time, you're gonna have the thousands of reviews. Like, oh like the math started to math for me, and I was just I was really just blown away because yeah, like I said, that was like my first go at this, and it was like way too much, honestly. I I kind of want like a more chill thing. I think I think you're behind in the times. Um, and I've never even been to one, but it I've heard that the pumpkin patch is closer to like a state fair type of a deal a deal now. Like it's it's a big deal. We should have budgeted like you know, a mortgage payment to go. Oh, yeah, no, this isn't going to like the Boy Scouts and buying a Christmas tree. Like this is fucking like you spend your eating. This is your plans for the evening. Oh, it was it was a lot, it was a lot, man. So anyway, so what's been going on in your world?

Have you been in any pumpkin patches recently? No pumpkin patches, but I just do I do want to get this on wax. I'm gonna keep it short and sweet. Okay. The Atlanta Falcons, oh god, not having a great season. Oh, is that right? And I just want to say that Desmond Ritter is not the answer for our team. We need an answer. Arthur Blank, the people deserve and no, we demand an answer. And Desmond Ritter is not him. And you know who is him? In my opinion, it's Justin Fields, my guy from Ohio State University, former Buckeye. He's on Chicago. He's showing out. His stock is a little higher, but it's still low. We trade for him. He fits great with this offense. Arthur Blank, I tell you now, make it happen. Oh my God. Can you picture? I felt that shit. Can you picture like Justin Fields doing the option with B Jan Robinson? Like, I mean, we'd be fine. I just want what's best for us. Yeah, I mean, so so let me let me make sure I'm following. Because you know, I, I support our, I want our teams to win, but I don't want. They don't know shit.

I don't know shit. I don't know shit. So Desmond Ritter, I'm assuming. Quarterback. I call him a Mac. Okay. All right. And so, you know, how are we doing this season so far? What's our record at this point? Uh, believe we're two and three now or two and four. Okay, not great. No, no. not, not, Not not what we should be. So you think that's that's the old like if we get rid of him, we're we're good. I think I think you can put a solid quarterback in place. Like, sure, there's other places to improve, but we look a lot better. Okay, so we need to rally our efforts around getting rid of this guy. We need Justin Fields. We need Justin Fields. He's the answer. Okay, so all right. And I just I selfishly want an Ohio State quarterback on the Atlanta Falcons, but I do think he'd be a great fit at the same time. Seriously. Is there is it does anyone else think this? Like, is this uh yeah, like sports analysts are saying this at all? Friends of mine. Friends. Okay. Who aren't Ohio State fans on that note? We're gonna wrap this thing up. Who aren't Ohio State fans? As always, I'm just saying, please leave us a review. I'm just saying.

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