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#136July 13, 202353 minInterview

KEY! Interview: Overcoming Addiction & Taking Success Seriously

Ben and H3NRY sit down with Atlanta rap legend KEY! who is probably responsible for how your favorite rapper sounds today. A visionary constantly ahead of his time, KEY! opened up about his recent stay in rehab, his newfound enthusiasm for his music career, signing his first record deal at age 30 after turning down countless offers over the past decade, some of his favorite up and comers, and what we can expect from him in the future.

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0:00

Drugs don't help nothing. They just really just put a band-aid on there, and then you gotta rip the band-aid off, and all the problems are still there. Do you just feel like you're taking this more seriously right now? Yeah, I want to be here. Nobody gets successful the same way. Third and Hayden. Shout out to my first record deal ever in my life. And I did it when I was 30. How many offers did you had? A lot. What do you think was wrong with the offers over the years? Nothing. I should've probably took them. Okay. One more time. And we do it one more time. One more time. Spend a ride, spend it one more time. Pick a thing, baby, one more time. If you're in the music industry in Atlanta, you know who this is. Our guest has influenced the careers of all your favorite artists. Welcoming in today on the One More Time podcast, legendary music manager. It's Keith Henderson. Oh my God. Bro, no shit. Bro, I said key works with this guy. Wait, this is not key? This is key. This is Batman Key. Batman Key.

0:57

This is Batman Key. On the pie. Let's go. All of the previous accolades, Shout out to Key Anderson too, though, for sure. And I love that full circle moment for you guys too. Yeah, shout out to Girl Key. Yes, that's beautiful. I don't call her nothing else. Girl Key? Yeah. Yeah. I'd be like, girl key. I don't be like, Key. I'm like, girl key, what you doing? Yeah, I had a best friend named Ben, and that was kind of annoying, right? My best friend's literally named Henry. Yeah. We all have this. Same names? Same names, bro. Someone you work with or have to talk to all the time. Best friend work, you know, colleague, whatever. That's wild. Yeah. But all those. Shout out to the full circle moment. Shout out to Third and Hayden. Yeah. Shout out to my first record deal ever in my life. And I did it when I was 30. There you go. That's amazing. That's wild. That's low key right there. Yeah. Wow, first deal. Yeah. Oh shit. I ain't never had a record deal before. How many offers did you have? A lot. Yeah. What do you think was wrong with the offers over the years? Nothing.

1:55

I should have probably took them. Okay. Why is that? They probably would have did me some justice. Um upfront money. Some yeah. So I was I was a struggling artist, even though I had I still made a lot of money, but I was it was my money. Yeah. It wasn't nobody else's money, so it's kind of hard to put money back into yourself and into your business at the same time. No one had to recoup. And I was still like a I was a child, so yeah. I should have probably took a deal. Yeah. I should have just been like catching up. Like, I should have been tired of deals at this point. So many deals. Yeah. I mean, the first one for two nine, that was you and you were like, what? How old? Like 18, 19, but I didn't take the deal. Yeah. I'm just not just not hearing that stories of what niggas did with their deal money. I didn't even know. I was oblivious. Damn. I'm just wondering, like, do you think, you know, hindsight being 2020, like, what which deal would have made sense for you at the time? Which one was the one?

2:51

Yeah, like is there a deal that would have made sense for you, even given like what you were doing as an artist at the time? Recently, or more, all right. Anytime. There's there's different uh fractions of my career. So it's like the end of 2.9, it's like really like a grungy time. It's like me working with like Mako Tom and Father and McCone. That time was like the wrist era. Yeah, that time was like I think I did have management. I I thought I was about to be the biggest artist in the world right there. So I was like, nah, fuck you to everybody and and and I apologize. Don't do that because they're gonna hear you. We're gonna clip that for sure. No, no, no. He said fuck you. They need to hear this. Young niggas need the young people need to hear this. Like, because I used to be like, fuck a deal, fuck a deal, fuck a deal. And people listening to you say that and then so they either gonna try to fuck you over off the rip or they going to just be knowing like you don't really want to be here so I'm gonna treat you like you don't want to be here. Yeah we talked we talked a lot lately about how it's kind of trendy to hate on like major labels.

3:58

Yeah but that see and but I ain't gonna hold you I was high so I know it was stupid I was high in my 20s I was trying to be I was really living the artist that I was being I was just being myself but if like and still trying to be an independent artist that don't make sense like yeah you need a deal because you're you're a firecracker like you're just learning what's going on versus today like I'm on top of my shit as much as my team is on top of it is because I gotta be now because this is it. Yeah if you don't have a team that's when a label can really help you kind of get get to where you need to be it's that infrastructure they don't give you a team it's like you need to have your own team it's like you you really need to be worried about your career as much as you worried about you being an artist because it's two different things like and so for those like I don't even I don't want to say it's not nobody like that but it's like it's a lot of artists who not really worried about the the business part of their shit. Yes they just think they is like they just oh I ain't got no deal I'm independent and that's it but it's like somebody making so much money off you you don't even know it they sit right there in the car with you. It ain't even the record deals no more yeah see for me something I've yeah something I've talked about with people is more so like artists and and producers or whoever's getting a deal, you know, presented to them.

5:16

Like, you need to know enough at least to be dangerous, right? Like to be able to speak intelligently to you know what's happening with your career. You don't need to know all the like super nitty gritty details. If you want to, great, but I don't feel like you need to know that, like, deep into the lawyer need to tell you. Yeah. The lawyer is a yo. You should be your partner in crime. If your lawyer not talking to you, I don't have a relationship, go get another lawyer. Um, but they should tell you, they shouldn't break things down in layman's terms to you as a as a 21-year-old person or 22-year-old person. Like, because but if nobody's doing that to you, people are taking. Yeah. We've talked to managers who even have said you need a lawyer before a manager. Right. Like I I don't have a problem not having no manager. I need a lawyer though. Like, you don't have a manager right now? I do. Well, I have a team right now. Okay. I have I have a management. We people are managing me and my career. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're not caught up in the titles. Yo, is Bernie right now?

6:13

Is uh Bernie your lawyer right now? No, but she was, and she is a great lawyer. She's fired. She was my lawyer my whole career. So I spent a large amount of time with her. Yeah. Like I said, like I put myself and dug myself in the graves that I had to jump out of, you know. Sure. So back in the day, you said something about like, you know, wanting to be known as someone who's rare, inaccessible, kind of like Yay or whatever. Like this is back in the day. Do you think that in today's like music industry that that approach or like mindset works? Um, yes and no. It's still some artists like that, but because it's always gonna be artists like that. And but I wanted to be in that category of artists, but um why you know, why do you want to be like that? It just is I the you stand out from the other hundreds of people. So many artists that come out every single day and they blow up, and as a rare artist, like, damn, how the fuck they do that? But I really don't want that. Like, you know, I I want my music to do that.

7:11

I would love for a song to go fast as fuck, but I don't want to go that fast. Are you still not trying to be friends with everybody? Yeah, I want to be friends with everybody, man. I'm done saying I'm not doing nothing. No more no's. Yes. Yes to everything. What what like switched? I don't know everything. I don't got it. You know, I went to rehab and they was like, everybody be like, uh, when you say you got it, that means you don't got it. Okay. It's like one thing. Like you don't got it. Like, so it's like what I do have, like, musically, I'm I'm I'm five making music. That's what I do got, you know, a little bit too. Like, I even had to, I got humbled in rooms with like when I first met Mike Will, he humbled me. Like, I told him what I did. Like, I told the whole room what I did, I ain't gonna say it like, but I gave myself credit on the record that nobody else knew that I'd made the song. And he was like, why you telling everybody like that? Like, so just chill, just sit down and it humbled me so much.

8:12

I was like, oh. So I know how I feel. Like, I don't I don't really remember the day of me being an asshole because I don't want to remember it. You know what I'm saying? But I don't, I probably had my chest up in a lot of rooms. I I'm gonna I'm gonna tell I want to tell the story because it's like the last time I I think I got offered a deal. I was with Flacco and them, and we were and I was I was in my glory, like you feel me? And then I remember I got fucked up like all the way up until the time of the meeting. Like I probably just had fell asleep like an hour before. And I went to the meeting, and I knew I was just reeking the liquor like a bum, like, you know, like not giving a fuck where I'm at. And then a lady, fucking the CEO of Capitol, or something like that, yeah, walked in with her child, and I was like, Oh, I'm done. What was it? Bring your kid to work day? But she, but even the fact that the CEO wanted to meet me, it was a lot, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was like, oh, they they was about to, they just I was about to go up. You know what I'm saying?

9:08

It was probably more intense though, because the child was there, right? Yeah, I was through, bro. I walked, I think I went to the bathroom. I was like, oh, I'm gone, y'all. Damn. I don't play myself like this. What do you think? So just everybody who think that somebody else is playing, y'all, it's not y'all. It's You playing yourself. Yeah, like where do you think some of that, you know, feeling the need to walk in the room and you know put your stamp on everything like that? It's that music we make. Yeah. It's the, the, the, The god body of our art. I guess that's what it is. Cause I'm very humbled though, but I do feel did feel like I was better than a lot of niggas. Yeah. We've talked about how like some artists need that kind of element. Like the ones that push through do have to kind of have some degree of this like delusional, like, I really am better than all you motherfuckers. I still think I'm better than a lot of niggas at music though. Yeah. Like when you say I'm better than a lot, they probably niggas really delving into that in all aspects of life. Life.

10:08

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, so I I had to pull back and just realize that I need help. This is a music business way bigger than me. Um, even if I was I am the biggest in my world. So, you know, just do that. Like, you gotta just stop focusing on shit you can't really control. Yeah, I think that's why I fell in love with hip hop though, to be honest. Is that braggadocious, like pop your shit, mentality. Yeah, pop your shit though, but like don't be lame though. Yeah, yeah. Like that's it's like a nigga with money. Like, like it's like a um you can have 10 million dollars and you be popping that 10 million dollar shit, but you still lame as fuck, bro. You know what I'm saying? Money don't make you real, yeah. And it don't make you cool. So it's like you could be braggadocious, but like don't overdo it. Yeah, but even on like the rapping ability thing, right? Like, you know, even Wayne saying best rapper alive, etc. Like just look and Lil Wayne mean that shit. Well, yeah, well, he is. I be saying he'd be canceling stuff stopping shows and shit like real Diva, dog, and I'd be like, I wouldn't even expect that because he's so cool in the music. I don't know him though.

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Yeah, but like, you know, I would expect him to just be like, yeah. We need the key Wayne song. I I just always think of like other genres, like how it would look if they were as braggadocious as hip hop, right? Like, imagine like yeah, you know, pop stars beefing, like who's better than who they do though, yeah. They do a little bit now, yeah. Not as much. How about like country? Don't hear about it, man. Yeah, how about like country artists? They fucking Emily and shit, Emily going back and telling, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Stop playing. I'll be in the room posting and stuff, and I'll be hearing you don't think bad baby, and it'd be something like you they ain't going on a they're not rappers, they're not gonna go on the other rappers' Instagram, they go into another pop star Instagram seeing what girls in the back, like I know that that pop star beef is different though, there's a lot less there's a lot less like guns or something. So it's a lot more money and drugs too. Who's on Bieber's head right now? That's what I want to do. Yeah, Bieber chilling, man. He done made it through the fire. He did. I think he's settled at this point. Um, you mentioned you mentioned rehab kind of very briefly.

12:07

I'd love to hear you kind of opened up about that and kind of what led you there, what how you feel now, anything that could maybe help out any young artists or even just people that might be struggling with addiction or whatever. Um I made it well, I I've been wanting to go to rehab for like a year or two before I actually went. Cause that's how you gotta want to go is yourself, but I ain't really had a means to go because like I said, I was wasn't in financially like into my shit like I should have been. So I so I had to worry about getting health insurance. You know, it's like a waiting list for that type of shit. So I was trying to do it myself for a minute, and that wasn't going nowhere. That's a lie. That's just something you tell somebody when your head hurts. You know what I'm saying? What about like, I think I'm gonna go to rehab. They're like, Yeah, sure. Yeah, so then I got the opportunity again once because I was down and out. Like, I'm like, damn, I'm a drug addict, like I'm an alcoholic. I don't feel like the opportunity's gonna come around for me musically again. Like, and then when it did, it came around, and I was just God told me something, just told me, like, ask them to help you.

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And once I said that, it really opened up the deal even more. Like, oh shit. We that's the version of you we want, so we'll pay anything for that. So, I mean, that's how I got my through it financially. Cause I I was getting to a point where I would have went anywhere, I would have went with the crackheads. Like, that's what I got to a point where I was like, I don't give a fuck where I'm gonna go. I need to go get some help. So I went to rehab, I went for like a month or some change. What was your experience like? Did you like hate it? Did you I ain't hate it? I went to a pampered up when I ain't go to like like I said, I ain't go to the you had your phone and shit. No, I had my phone only an hour a day. Okay. You would have gone to the crackhead one, but you didn't go to the crackhead one. Okay, he would have gone though. I was I went far away from the in the suburbs. You went to where Wayne went to jail that one time. He was feet up on the night. It was crazy though. I had stories. Did you have like crazy withdrawals going in? Ugh. Like they have to detox the fuck out of here. No, I did go through a detox, but but I got out my detox early because I wasn't on no drugs.

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They're like, damn, this this guy's been pissing alcohol for the week he's been here. Nah, see, I wasn't like this. See, I met real alcoholics, and I wasn't an alcoholic. Oh, wow. I was an addict. Yeah. Let's hear one of those stories. Your best one. Oh, my rehab? Yeah. You said you had stories. Let's go. I do. I just It's like jail. You want to keep some things to yourself, though. I would it was crazy in there, though. I ain't gonna lie. Did you make friends? People rapping on their chest. I seen this girl. It was this girl, she was like the bully, y'all. She was the bully, but she probably had to be like 21. She had carrot top, ginger hair. Little white girl. Like, she, but she ran that shit. Like she get to walk the halls at night while everybody was asleep. Because everyone was scared of her. Her dad owned the place. She was tired of that shit. She was like, I've been in 37 rehabs. What? But she ended up breaking out. She was a veteran. She ended up breaking out, kicking out the window or running through a neighborhood. She had just punched somebody in the face.

15:08

It was like nice jail. I was dying laughing. Did you feel like you were tripping out? Yeah, because I was sober too. I know. It's like, damn, I'm back on drugs, apparently. This is happening. That's why I learned how to play Fortnite. But I was in like crazy. I was and she said, Oh, she said, ah, back that shit up. I turned around and she dude, I don't. I was like, like, this is jail. Did you have any crazy uh like dreams? Because I know. Yeah. How do you know about that? Because I I think I battled with some stuff myself. And you know I still have crazy dreams every day. Yeah. Even just after stopping smoking, you know, weed, I I was just having crazy vivid dreams, bro. Like we don't remember dreams. Oh my god, I don't remember any dreams ever from my weed days. Nah, I had some wild dreams. Yeah. Damn. And I was going to sleep like on time, like 8 45, 9 o'clock. Damn. Now waking up at 6:45. I've been up since 5 all day. it got me in shape. Yeah. Like that was the best time I felt as an adult in my life. But how hard has it been being out?

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Uh I ain't gonna hold you. That shit helped me. But it is kind of hard being out. So like uh I ain't going back to what I was doing though. Okay. Yeah. Like never. Yeah. Like what, you know, other than obviously like health reasons, like was it impacting the music? It sounds like you know it impacted everything. Um drugs don't help nothing. They just really just put a uh band-aid on there, and then you gotta rip the band-aid off, and all the problems are still there. Yeah, so it's like I I had to deal with everything that I didn't want to deal with still. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So once you get to a point where the shit don't get you hot no more, you know, that's when you need to because I because you can't tell somebody to stop in the middle of it. So I don't really know how to tell somebody to stop. But if you need help or you want to, you know what I'm saying? Like when you get to that point, really go get yourself some help. Once once you like once you once they don't work no more and your health is at risk, it's time to go. Like, don't even that uh the warning is too much.

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A lot of people don't get the warning, you know, recipes to a lot of my friends, but a lot of my friends didn't get the warning. Yeah, so I got the warning. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, you mentioned financial stability too. I mean, that's a huge part of it as well, man. I mean, not only health-wise, but like your finances are taking a hit if you you know have addiction issues, like no matter what drug, to be honest. Yeah, not for sure. Yeah, and when you're the most underpaid artist in the game, potentially, yeah. Nah, I probably spent a lot of money on drugs and shit, too. Yeah, oh, I mean, I don't even like to do the math. I never even tried to add that. shit up. Yeah, I don't I've tried and I stopped very quickly. It's depressing. So I spent money on cigarettes, let alone goddamn. Yeah, eight dollars for a pack of Newports these days. If you have a cigarette addiction and you stop smoking cigarettes, you're gonna have more money. No, I was on the jewel like heavy and I feel like I stopped jeweling and it was like still like once again another like extra 50 bucks here, 100 bucks there. Like it was that somebody with me I don't know. It might be special.

18:03

Oh let's see. Is it a girl? I hope so Hey. hey welcome to the podcast. All right um anywho so you recently uh posted about the 777 um anniversary right and we wanted to because you know you've talked about this project with Kenny Beats a lot but we kind of wanted to unpack like why do you think that that is one of your most highly regarded projects from the fans like what about it I mean it was just a clean body of work um and as brand as I already was it wasn't that clean ever like my music was like underground this sounded but once you cleaned it up that's what it was supposed to sound like like clean from a mix perspective or all of that yeah yeah uh like structured songs and do you think the fact that it was recorded all in a week made it sound more cohesive it was like one mindset I just think Kenny is followed that shit. Right.

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Shout out Kenny and shout out Yerba Mate one time. Yeah, shout out Yerba Mate. Kenny and uh, One More Time podcast, both sponsored by the uh, yeah. Nah, I ain't gonna lie, that he got a different touch because like I hate recording with some people now because of going through him. He gonna fuck me up but like if you're not that good, I don't even want to work with you. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely set a new standard for you. It's like a speed thing part of it, like keeping up. Yeah, for sure. Even if I made a mistake, there's something like he fixed it. Or like you know what I'm saying? Like, and I like I feel like all the like at this point, like a lot of young people, like young artists are hip to it now, though. Like, 'cause that was years ago. Mm-hmm. But cause and now he like on Twitch teaching niggas the sauce. Like, so everybody got it now. But at that point, I don't feel like nobody was doing it like that. Yeah. Is it your favorite project? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. now Alpha Jerk. He seems like he's thinking a little bit. I love Alpha Jerk though. Me too. man. Shout out to Tony Seltzer, killed it. Yeah, I fuck with Alpha Jerk Heavy.

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Yeah. I feel like Alpha Jerk was like the sequel to me in my eyes. Like just a different producer. Yeah. It's like the New York. version. I found Tony Seltzer from Kenny Beats. Oh, okay. Because he did uh boss. Okay. And I didn't know that. And then I linked up with him in New York and we kind of had the same moment we had. Like we had the same vibe. Yeah. Yeah. How important is the the chemistry between you and the producer when you're doing a full-length project like that? Like it's gotta be like y'all are just locked the fuck in, right? Yeah, he just told me, shout out to my cool white boys who drink Yerba Mate. Let's go. It be them. Yes. With the beats. Yes. Oh, so it's so find yourself a white producer. That's how it works, but that's what I've been it works for me. More like some white podcasters. No, it's not, it's just a chill person, like a different somebody who really into their work. Cause I I know I know I know my my man Bertha, he ain't even white. So look, he's really into his work. If y'all know who that is. Birthday audio.

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And uh he's super into it. Like I like people like that. And I'm one of them type of people. So I feel like Kenny and Tony are them type of people too. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, it's interesting. Like. But they, it do it, it, it is always a coincidence that these white boys drink Yerba Mate. What is it about it? Yeah, I don't know, but their target market is. They go stupid when they go make a beat. Their target market is just white. Like all ages. Shut up, Guayaquil. Yeah. You guys. Exactly. Austin, Love you. So how's the process different when you're just, you know, building uh a project with multiple producers, right? Versus, let's take Alpha Jerk and 777 as examples. I ain't never did a project without working with one producer. Oh, really? I never did one where I took a bunch of songs and put them together. I ain't did that before. Oh, wow, okay. So everything's been basically like a collab project. Work on it from start to finish. Wow. And it's a thing where do you you maybe like make one song with someone and if the vibe is right, you just end up making a bunch of songs. Or we had made a song and then we go make a bunch of songs.

21:51

And if it felt like we made ice cream hello, me and Kenny. Then before we made any 777 songs, then we decided to make a project because that song was so good. Yeah. And then we made demolition right then the next day, and then we made from one to 18, like right then. You know, for me, it's it's kind of one of those things where once you did that, was there just no turning back and going back to the whole, like, or not? I mean, you never even did it, but like going to the whole build a project with multiple producers thing. I never did that before. Yeah, it sounds like that. That sounds like somebody with a record that I just told you, I just got one. Yeah, but it's coming. Nah. I mean, I don't see the I don't know. I don't see the point. I feel like if I like a producer, I'm gonna go lock in with her. All right, so so Mark B produced You Need God, right? He did. We got a whole project. So is that is that coming? That's the next one? Yeah, Yeah. Man, that record called fire, by the way. We love Tony, man. We were we interviewed Tony. Also, we love Mark. We love Mark. We haven't interviewed. Well, we haven't interviewed Mark, so I'm mad at him. I'm gonna tell him. No, blame Dante. He's supposed to be.

22:47

I ain't blame Dante on Green. I just blame Dante. Yeah. You know, it was just one of those things where it's like, oh yeah, we'll do it. Shout out to Break the Pot. Yes, yes. Um, so you know, what is it about like the Mark B connection, right? That that made it. Same thing. Yeah. I don't want to lie. Yeah, I pulled up. I wanted to work with Mark B because I heard his music on somebody else's shit. And then we locked in, and I already knew I wanted to do a project with him. So we just started locking in. Yeah. I did another whole project that I already got done with uh 14 goals. Who's that? Uh producer. He's from Baltimore, but by way of Atlanta. We got a whole project that's done too. He's amazing. He's like one of my favorite producers. So how do you think your music has evolved, right? From whenever you started getting in the game, you know, two nine days or even right thereafter to where we're at today. Like, you know, how's the music changed? It makes sense now.

23:47

It's not just like uh some yeah because that's what it was at first. Do you not like your old music at this point? I do. Okay. Um just certain songs, though. I don't like all of it. Some of it, but I do like it, all of it. I appreciate all of it, and I listen to all of it for the nostalgia, but I always turn on the new shit right after it. and I'm like, ooh, that shit sounds way much better. That's every artist, I feel like. every artist loves their new shit the most. Some artists should just only love their old shit because they new shit booty. Shout out to them. So Kenny tweeted recently, uh, maybe I'm dumb, but if an artist ever made one truly great song, I'll believe in their ability forever. Do you adhere to that? Like mindset. Like, like if someone can make one great song, are you like or can people get lucky? Yeah. I don't know. It's a good one, right? It's a good one.

24:43

That's a good thing. Yeah, he worked with a lot of artists. I don't do that. I work with key. I be struggling over here. So I don't know. what do you mean? Like, I'm struggling to in my mind to be creative sometimes, so I can't really like judge somebody off of their ability to make one record. I'm still trying to make my one record every time I make a record. Yeah. Sounds like you got the blinders on. You're just focused on your music. Yeah. I know. Yeah. For me, once again, I'm the non-creative, so I love to just throw opinions out here, right? I don't like that like comment to be honest. Like, I just think like for me, for artists who are gonna stand the test of time and they're gonna be, you know, career... yeah, everybody gonna grow. Yeah, like you gotta have more than one. But no, some people, but so you could you you if some people do got one song and be over with, and they did catch. Yeah, but that doesn't speak to their abilities necessarily. They might have got lucky. I just don't think that that means you can actually do it. Who did that though?

25:40

Who did just one great song? I mean, the list of one hit wonders is endless, yeah. To be real, I mean, we did a one hit wonder draft. I don't know. We did do a lot of those who was on there, Silento, even though he's locked up. Hey, that was Silento. you like him? He went to Tucker, too? He went to Tucker, I think so. I didn't know that. Look, I went to Bali, he was there. What? What a rant. I had a show in Bali. He wasn't even on the bill, nothing. Why why was he there? Just whip nae-naing it across the stage. Yeah, we went to the club, everything. Damn. Sorry. MC Hammer. Yeah, MC Hammer, vanilla ice. I don't know. Vanilla Ice is the ultimate. wonder. People were like defending everyone, though. They were like, Yeah. I don't know. I said Sir Mix a lot, and everyone was like, No, Sir Mix-a-Lot's album was crazy. Sir Mix-a-Lot made the Rainstone company too. Rhapsody. Oh, really? Hell yeah. He founded that? Hell yeah, that man rich as fuck. Damn. Shout out to Mix-a-Lot. Yeah, yeah. Wow. I did not know that. Remember the commercials?

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Yeah, but I didn't know it was Mix Lot. Yeah. Holy shit. From Baby Got Back to that. And he made Posse on Broadway too. on Broadway too. Posse on Broadway is the one that everyone said that was a hit. Yeah, I don't know. Was that a hit though? I don't know. I wasn't even alive, bro. Yeah. I had I had no comment on that. But what hit one? I don't know what would that mean. Yeah. That ain't even in my realm. But Kenny is a producer that works with niggas who, and that'd be their first song. So he can, he has a he's in that field. I'm not in that field. If you came up to me and said, This is my first song, I'm like, where the money at? I love it. So, you know, You Need God is obviously featuring Tony Snow with with DJ Mark B on the on the beat. beat. When did you first get hip to uh Tony Snow? Like how did how did that happen? Oh I got hip to Tony Snow because I was I was I'm friends with some of the people that he grew up with and then in the same area that he grew up with. It's kind of like he was from a next generation of like it's hard to explain, but Bluetooth, like he came from like their neck of the woods so DJ Bluetooth, yeah.

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So he he was like I'm managing him, so he just already showed me his music. It wasn't like I found it on my own. Yeah, and so when you you know find an artist that you really like, right? Whether it's Bear 1 Boss, Tony, whether it's Post back in the day, 21 Savage, whatever. Like, do you automatically know that you see it in the artist, or do they have to grow on you sometimes? Nah, you can see it in the artist. You can see when somebody else started, okay. Yeah, I think you got superstar radar. Yeah, I ain't, but they probably know it they self too. When I seen Bear, Bear was already acting how he acted, and he's a superstar, and I don't gotta tell him that. Pop star. Pop star. Yeah, he's a superstar. Yeah. But I don't gotta tell him that. No, but I just more I was more curious around like, is it automatically when you first hear them, you're like tapping? I just yeah, I'll be like, they fight. Like, yeah, he's hard. Like, it's hard to get my attention like that. Okay, so no one's really grown on you to become everybody don't get my attention. So if you get my attention and you're right there, it's kind of like a yeah, it's happening quick. Yeah.

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I think you talked about 21 too in the uh dirty glove interview. Like when you saw him on stage, that's when it really clicked. Like you had to see him performing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I already seen some of 21 music that he was making before we locked back in, and I seen the potential. That is a person where you could see some star quality and something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. So you mentioned like back in 2016 or some shit that you had written like 3,000 verses. Well, was that in I don't even remember 2017? I know, but but do you think that that was like a roundabout like good estimate? I don't know. Okay. Oh, I oh look, it was one day uh I woke up and I couldn't remember no numbers no more. Just the numbers that all like my passwords, my phone numbers, Damn. Oh woo woo song, yeah. That shit over with no numbers. so okay, in your more clear headed uh state right now, yeah. Um minus the shrooms, I guess.

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But uh that's it, though. I don't remember how many songs I made. Uh I don't remember email addresses. I if I could go back and find that shit, we wouldn't even have to talk no more about music. I was just AI be an AI artist. Oh wow, Jesus. How many do you think it's total like over the years? Like of music? I've made? Up to date. Yeah, like songs you've made or written. I don't know. Like a thousand a year. A thousand a year. Over what Twelve years or some shit? That 120,000 songs. There's no way. I don't know. Probably. That is. Oh my gosh. Three songs a day? For a lot of summers. Damn. Yeah. So post. I got like a thousand songs on my phone right now. And that's just from like January to here. And are you are you writing a lot these days? Are you are you mostly freestyling? I mean, I was just going to, it's the new time. No one's writing anymore. Yeah, you don't have to. No one does. They just punch in. You write like on the spot. You punch a line in.

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It's perfection. For sure. I know you breathing on the song and shit. So we talked about this recently. We did. Because Jay-Z would not would not be caught dead punching. Yeah. I hated that shit. When I was young, I used to hate that shit in the songs. Like Lupe Fiasco. I used to listen to that. Like, man, why he got all that breathing? And that hey, I ain't gonna hold you. Kenny was like the first producer to take my shit. I was like, oh he took that. He took your breath all the way out? Yeah. See, I like to turn the breath down. No, could take the breath out. I like to keep them a little bit because I like that vibe of it sounds like he's all put together. I like it when it sounds like a robot. Like just literally punch, punch, punch, punch, punch. No, like I no, you could do the whole song in one take, but I'm still gonna clean it up like that. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Damn. See, I no, I go the other way. I'll record myself and I'll do a whole take and go in and take my breaths out there. There's an iZotope plug-in that you need. It's called it's called De-breath. It just automatically detects the breaths and takes it all the way out. No, I don't need I need something to do, so I don't need no shortcuts. I'm like, okay. All right. I think you can fuck with it though. So have you learned to take your own breaths out?

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Are you still relying on yes? I take my own breath away. That's Some rapper shit right there. Yes, I take my own breath away. He takes his own... Here's the clip. Key takes his own breath away. Clip that. So what do you listening to right now? I actually am listening to new rappers too. Okay, yeah. Let's hear that. Uh what's that boy's name? Glot40 Spaz. He's hard. Y'all know him? No. He's hard. Do we need to? That little nigga. When I'm mad. Sounds like a Detroit, guy. No, he from Atlanta. Okay. I think he I don't I don't quote me because I was seeing that video with Cito. I think he might be with Cito. Okay. I don't know though. Cause he's too hard. Who else? Oh, who else I've been listening to? Um what's that boy's name? Ray's nephew. Oh, yeah. He got a song. Is he from New York? Yeah, I think he might be like from Rochester. Something like that. Yes. He hard. Yeah, I found him through Annabelle with that good shit. Annabelle Klein.

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I don't know if you know her. Uh-oh. Okay. Tisa Corrine. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Tia's hard. No, Tisa. I listen to both of them. They're both hard. Tia Corrine and then Tisa Corrine, right? Yeah, they're like they're eerily similar names, that is The names are similar, but they but I'm talking I fuck with them both individually. Yeah. But I be listening all the time to Tisa music. Yeah. I'm telling you what I listen to in my car. Okay. Me. Me, me, me, me. Why is every artist like that? But I only listen to my shit for real, but I these are the songs I'm telling you I listen. But I listen to Future all day, though. Okay. But that's like, hey, that's like embedded. Like that's the background. That's like it gotta be on. Shout out to the baby. Like, yeah. Shout out to the baby. Why you gotta do that, bro? It's My boy. No, that's hard. That's not your boy. But DS2 is the perfect. DS2 is the perfect album. Man, all of the hey, look, I can go back. It's the perfect album.

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I be going back the future, all day. No, I mean... I be listening to the 1000. Listen, Tony Montana, like, yeah, no, we can we could go back. I'm just saying DS2 is the epitome of a trap. What's on DS2? Everything, bro. Real Sisters? Yeah. Well, that's I don't know. That's like, Yes, but I ain't listening to that? What? Why not? Man, you know what? I'm gonna turn on y'all. Uh I'm gonna turn on goddamn magic. Um, if you knew what it took. Okay, yeah. Inspirational future. You're just the cool guy that likes the deep cuts. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Nah, future go hard though. Does so what else? What else you got? Uh I listen to I Love You Hook. I listen to One Way Frank a lot. Um, I listen to Man Man Savage. Shout out Man Man. We talked to him behind the scenes at the Beer and Tacos reunion. Damn it, Henry. What? Well, I just you know it's a sore subject.

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So we interviewed Man Man Savage behind uh you know behind the scenes backstage at uh at Beer and Tacos, and he he literally asked us, hey, is the interview gonna come out? We were like, Of course, bro, of course, yeah, and we haven't dropped it yet. Nah, I'm gonna tell him to pull up. I can tell him to pull up the show. We'll do a full length with Man Man for sure. Yeah, I'm glad for that. Go ahead and get my list of it. Nah, because I don't want to fuck it up. Yeah, keep going, because I think we're having like a little playlist right now. Yep. Greedo on there. Greedo. Is he out? Yeah, he's out. He's flourishing. Hell yeah. Um do y'all have any music coming out? We got a song, one song, but I gotta go to LA, but I've been trapped trapped in Atlanta trying to make sure that all the the that the album is done. But it's done though. I'm leaving. I have visuals and everything. I'm ready to go. You we got a title? Marquise, it's my name. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Damn, we're still waiting on the R&B album. I'm so mad because everybody's doing that shit now, too. The self-titled? Hell yeah. That's fine though. Like, it's your name. I know. It's fine. That's why you can't be mad. But I was like, God damn, there's like four other people doing it. Yeah, no, we were talking about how you said you were gonna uh start making RB music under Marquise Devon.

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Yeah, yeah. Under your government. Is that still the plan? Yeah, I mean, I'm already making RB music, yeah. But under that name, are we gonna get a name? I mean, my name is my name. is your name. Yeah, but we need that Marquise Devon R B album. bro. I hope your wife do say that though on the thing. They'll just watch out. Okay. What about um writing movies? You're gonna do scripts and shit. Any any progress on that? Any progress? Yeah. Now my friends is doing it, so once they get in, I get to jump in with they ass. That's smart. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Learn from their uh trials and tribulations. I just realized if I wanted to act with it would I uh what role I would play to get into acting, but I play that like that Snoop Dogg with the watch role in the role from Baby Boy. You wanna do you want to act or do you want to write? Because I feel like you could do both. I'll probably do both, but I don't want to write like I want to be the nigga in a room screaming the story out. Yeah. You know, pause. You need to write your own role. Yeah, yeah. Right? I already did. Well, what's up, Hulu? When's it coming out? Yeah, damn. No, no,

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don't confuse me. Uh I ain't write shit, but I was just saying like my life's already written, but I'm still a real rapper. Oh, that was a deep spiritual metaphor rapper, rapper thing. He was spitting a bar. Okay, that that flew right over our heads. We had no idea what you were talking about. But yeah, Marquise coming out uh I want to say the end of the summer for sure. I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna drop a single every uh I dropped one in May, I'm gonna drop one in June and one in July. Do you do you just feel like you're taking this more seriously right now? Yeah, I am. Yeah, right? Yeah. I can I can just tell, man, because I mean we did our research, obviously, and like he's been tapped in for a long time. And me just looking at the interviews and shit, and then even you know, talking with Jace and Key or whatever, like it definitely feels like this is a Yeah, I want to be here. Yeah. You definitely gave off the I could give a fuck if I'm here. Yeah, yeah. Attitude before. Yeah, Which... this is where the money at it's still like kind of where's the money at at this point. Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, like it's still don't come without the bag, but like it's not going nowhere. Yeah, yeah. I feel like you talked about this before. So do you have a kid or kids? I got three kids. Because I'm a new father. Okay, cool. So I have a one. I say new. I have a one-year-old and I have another baby on the way. Congratulations. Yeah, thanks. To both. Yes, yes. How how did that like change things for you, right? Really now it's changing me, it's fucking me up because my kids get so damn old. So it's like how old's your oldest? 11. Oh shit. It's like looking at them, you're like, there's damn nothing about to be a man, like and it came from me, so it's like kind of fucking me up. And I got my youngest right now, so it really makes me stick like really close to him. Yeah. But how does it make me as a person? It made me better as a person, I guess. Yeah, yeah. For me, like I really wasn't paying no attention when it's just me by myself, and then no, you're not really like cautious. Yeah, it's it's definitely interesting, like just caring about things that you didn't care about, whether you were like on one side of the spectrum, maybe like you were, or even wherever I was on the spectrum.

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Like you still just when there's other people involved, you know. Like it's I I just try and you know, talk with him sometimes, and like he's of course, like so supportive of like me having a family and shit, but like there's still some like barriers to us, like understanding like what's going on. I can't talk about business right now. I'm saying goodnight to my son. Yeah, you know, it's like I don't do shit like that. I want to answer the phone. Well, yeah, exactly. It that's a whole other thing. I'm still a dad like my dad, though, so I don't know how how you be dad, but I'm a how's that? How are, you know, how are you a dad? Shut your ass up. Oh he's only one, so I definitely say that, but I'll probably keep saying it whenever he understands me. too. Go to sleep, boy. Yeah. One year's old, we're gonna go to sleep. Yeah. No, trust me, I'm probably gonna be a lot of that. Yeah, for sure. you're cussing in front of him a lot. I'm one of them dads I just sort of I just whip out the face like When they get to running, they know now. Bro, he's starting to be able to like slightly repeat like sound and you know, sounds and stuff.

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He hasn't like really started... Don't give him no goddamn iPhone, it's over with. Oh, my wife is a is the culprit on that front. He's going to speak Spanish tomorrow. He already he already calls me papa because he goes to an international school, bro. I swear to God. I swear to God, I'm trying to get him to say, dad-dad. exactly. I'm trying to I'm trying to get him to say dad, dad, and he's like, Papa, and I'm just like, What the fuck, bro? How are you speaking Spanish before English? They birthed Harry Potter. Yeah, this is insane. But but no, so I I feel like you, you know, whether you meant to or not, like you've definitely played this like, you know, OG role, probably to to people coming in the game, you know, recently as well, right? So what are some things that you're like constantly hearing yourself say, right? Are there like some recurring, you know, thing? Like a quote? yeah, or just like I got one. or just like game you're putting, you know, I got a quote. Nobody gets successful the same way. Ooh. Unpack that. It's impossible. Unpack that. Nobody ever got successful the same way. Okay, so I can't really tell you what to do, and you really can't tell me what to do.

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But do you suggest people study the game though, having no, like knowing that fact or not? I just think that people that people should let people be and give each other advice and point each other the right directions of who to go to to work where. Like this person's a good lawyer that you could trust. Go over there. But when it comes to like, hey man, do what I'm telling you to do, I'll never be like that. Yeah. Don't take it too literally. Yeah, but I'll point you in a good direction. Yeah. I think we've talked about this a lot where it's like it's so easy to like look at what that person's doing. Yeah, it should fuck you up. Yes, and we even do it, like or I definitely am way worse about it. You're better at it. He's like, well, this podcast has this thumbnail. Yeah. Maybe her thumbnail should look like this. I'm from Atlanta where a lot of niggas be like, well, I want to do it like, ugh, I want to do it like baby. I'll be like, but do it like you. You feel me? Yeah. Damn, I'm I'm definitely like victim of that, bro. Where I just look at it because I know that they've done it successfully, but I love what you're saying, and maybe I'm gonna finally listen to Key because I haven't been listening to you.

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Thank you for coming on the pod. Yeah. Because it's shit that people need to hear. Yeah. You know, because I think this shit is hard, bro. I mean, you can't. Nobody, you can't look at no nobody else's podcast, nobody else's rap career, and ever try to put that on you or try to act like you're gonna do it like that, or nigga, you might get successful because shit. I farted on here rather than Can you do that? Nah, rather than y'all spending $100,000 in the room, you know what I'm saying? You don't know how you're gonna get successful. Yeah, so just let it happen. It's funny you mention. Yeah, it's funny you mentioned you know, farting on that love seat. Bear one boss, farted with his armpit. Oh, yeah, I seen that stupid shit. That's close enough. I mean, I saw that. But if you but if you let a real one go, we might go viral, bro. I was just giving you a good example. Just if you do, I'm going to be like, nah, bro. This man just man just domed the microphone. We're going for viral shit here, Key.

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I'm trying to go viral with this shit. Okay. Speaking of like copying what other people are doing or trying to like replicate, you know, their success. It's been, of course, rumored and or like people have commented that a lot of people have, you know, bitten. They're jacking this man's flow. Yeah, they're jacking your flow, bro. Do you do you feel that way? I mean, it's yeah. You have to. Yes and no. Yes, why? Yes, because that the young kids don't know where it comes from no more because it happened a long time ago. Okay. And now they're just taking it from other people. And but actually, I mean, for sure, like the you know, the yeah, uh uh the pause flow, if you will, right? Yeah, but then the niggas, I don't know. That shit over with now. Cause everybody do it now. But it was other people doing it when I came out too. So I don't know. Maybe it's just the time, dog. You're not gonna take credit for that one. Everyone gets it. I don't know nah. I don't know.

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Yeah, maybe you heard it from someone subconsciously. Nah, the niggas who took my flow, they already know it. Yeah. And I know, and they scared. You need 5% of those records. Well, they ain't gonna give me no 5% of the records. I know what they're doing. They weird. They be having bags on and shit and little girl shoes and shit. We ain't gonna say it in my name. okay. So you mentioned obviously like not doing the greatest business for yourself over the years, right? You're you're kind of honest about like you should have taken a deal, maybe, or whatever, right? Yeah, I should have did something something I I used to just say fuck that shit. So I was like I shouldn't have said fuck that shit. Yeah. But like why was I saying fuck that shit? But but outside of just like accepting a deal, like a record deal, were there any other like just glaring financial mistakes that you look back at? Just once again, to like try and put me... it's not meant to have you relive it, but it's like... No, I was spending all that money though. I was making a lot of money in the independently. I could have had a different story right now if I did it right. I could have been like, oh, I done made $100,000,000 by myself.

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Oh so you could have had the Brent Faiyaz story. Yeah, like I was spending my shit. Okay, deliberately, like going in. Okay. I got stories. So maybe, like, financial... I got stories sitting in this sound dumb as hell. I got a story, right? I'll probably sit in a trap. Um it's Friday. I probably got like 50 on me, $50,000. I remember I woke up Sunday and it was like you ever seen blank check? Oh, yes. Remember that Blank Check at the end of the movie, and we had a little bit of money in the book bag? I looked at my book bag, and I pulled out my... I'm like, oh, who the fuck robbed me? I robbed myself. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. So what did you Where'd it go? Yeah, exactly. Where Were you up to that weekend? You remember? Just bought everything in the trap house? Hookers? No, I probably had like Follies or something like that. Yeah, Follies. Follies would do it. Doing dumb shit, Like taking a $100 bill and balling it up and throwing it to my face or something like that. Wait, Follies closed, right? It is. And That's a hint for later. Also, okay. Well, Rest. of the... No. No. not Actually, later.

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No, I went to the studio. We gotta hurry up. Oh, yeah. No, we we're getting it. I'm back in the lab, man. That's it. Catch. You're in the lab right now. When you talk to Keys, just talk to me about music. What's your creative process like now? Is that the same? As it's always been, yeah, though. Um, right now I'm I just like working on stuff I want to work on. I'm not gonna go for no reason. I wish I had that, like, that young nigga bone of, like I just wanna be in the studio, but I don't have that bone. I just I gotta be wanting to work on something at the time. Okay, so you gotta feel inspired. Like, yeah, like I might be in the car and like an old nigga, and like, oh, I gotta go to the studio. That's how they go. So does that mean the podcast is inspiring you right now? Because he's like ready to go. I love that. There's people pulling up at the studio. That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, Key, we've entered a final segment of the podcast. Oh shit. Henry. Oh shit. Take us away. Everyone's favorite part of the pod. This is the rapid fire rampage. Key, it's gonna be a three-part rampage. All right, bud. three short parts.

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We're gonna start with the short answer questions. Here we go. Did you just lift your leg and fart? No, I just showed my shoes off. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah, fair enough. I was like, well, I don't know. I just I wished for it. I wished for it. I'm so freaked out over here. I'm just a nigga didn't want to shine sometimes. Get our editors to zoom in on the kicks. There was a lot of fart talk before. I don't know, man. There was okay. Starting the short answer. Key, you can do a collab project with any three artists or producers. Who would you do a collab project with? Eric Abadu. Hard. Uh what the other boy's name is? Uh Danger Mouse. Wow. And Kaytranada. Hard. I love the Kaytranada. Yeah, yeah. I listened to that, but I've seen you talk about it with Anime. I thought he was named anime, but yeah. Amine. I mean, yeah. Yeah. He be doing cool shit, though. Yeah.

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Both of them. Yeah, yeah. So together it was like amazing collaboration. Key, a lot of artists are selling their catalogs right now. Let's get a number. How much for the Fat Man Key catalog? I don't know. They really be offering me, bro. We ain't playing this game. You can go high. You can go crazy high for the for the whole everything you put out so far. I want every song. You get everything? Every song. Every song you got out. That's crazy. I don't know. I would not do that. For any for any amount. any amount. Nah, I'm gonna collect the money for the rest of my life. Oh, half a billy? If I go up and become more of an entity, then my song is gonna be worth more money than the money that you gave me. He's got that much confidence. He's going up. That's true. This is the key era. This is the new key era. I'm still gonna get paid every month for what I'm doing already. That's true. But if you gave me a hundred M's. So did we just get it? Did we just get the price? 100 M's. Yeah. 100 M's. Come correct. I'll make a 100. I'll go make some. That's what that's

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probably what an artist think. I'm just gonna go make some more songs. You can you can, but that shit's gonna be worth so much money in the future. That's why they're gathering it all up right now. Yeah, no, absolutely. They're doing something. Something's happening right now, bro. So just hold off. Okay. Key, You can only wear one outfit for the rest of your life. What are you rocking? A white t shirt and some salvage dinners and some Maison Margiela's. I like it. Neutral. Neutral. Mm-hmm. Key, the zombie apocalypse is happening. You can choose any three weapons to defend yourself. Glow the switch. Switch is a popular first one. What else? Draco with a switch. Okay. He's two for two switches. I came for the seven with a switch. He looks like he just got six weapons. The switch trifecta. Those are the switch holy trinity. I'm putting a switch on a knife, nigga. A switch trio.

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This guy wants all the switches for the zombies. The knife switch. Incredible. Damn. I feel bad. for the zombies. Key, what are a couple of trends in music, one or two that can die right now? Like he thinks they'll die, or he wants to kill them. He can interpret it as he will. Okay, I'm just saying. That's what I was wondering about. I fuck with everything. I find everything hilarious, so I just want everything to live. You just go. Hilarious? Do whatever. Yeah. If it's bad, it's funny. Yeah, yeah. I feel that. Shout out those trends. dude. Okay. Last one of the short answer, Key. What is your favorite curse word? Shit. Part one. Part one. It was a good part one. Solid. Switches galore. Switches everywhere. We're putting a switch on a knife. That is fucking revolutionary. Nah, that's not my favorite curse word. Not shit. What is it? I don't give a fuck about that. Okay. And the whole phrase? Yeah. I love that. We'll take that. We'll take that. Yeah, I think Coops was man fuck. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Man, fuck. That was a man fuck. The whole sentence is me. Yeah. I don't care about that shit. Part two is the this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. You pick one. Here we go. Starting with snares or claps. Snares. Soundcloud or spotify? Soundcloud. JR crickets or American Deli? American Deli. What do you get? What's your order? I get one fucking Philly combo, man. Goddamn, you all in a nigga shit. Philly combo, man. Oh, yeah, because that's such a secret. What you get from American Deli. I'm sorry. He exposed. He was giving us all of the, like, chicken Philly with the uh lemon pepper flat. He was like diving deep into like his rehab experience. To be fair, this is Key's Rapid Fire Rampage. You are kind of like, but I don't go to the Dales no more. I'm too old for that. Okay. There's an age Okay. Yeah, man. I've been going. I've been eating that since I was like the when it was only in Kroger. Okay. That is a long time ago. That's right. They've got standalone locations now, Key. Yeah. For sure. Either free Jordans for life or bring back Follies permanently.

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You can get me to Jordan. I'm fucking home. We'll go somewhere else. These ones. Bring it back Follies for what? To make some more. bad decisions. We did it already. Yeah, yeah, would you eat oatmeal every day or commit a crime with Gunna? What? Thanks. And finally, delete all of your unreleased music. Or consume a small amount of fentanyl every day for a year. I already did that. Not just my excuse. Whoa. It was like the speed at which he was like, well, duh. You said one of those I've already done. What am I doing? Delete all your unreleased music or do the fentanyl. A little bit of a just a little bit. Just a tiny bit. every day for a year. Every day for a year? Yeah, every day for a year. Just a little bit though. A little bit. We're going back in time, but all right. We're doing rehab again after a year for sure. Okay. Part two. Wait, wait.

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Y'all fucking me up. Delete all my music or unreleased. Unreleased music. Delete it off my phone. Everywhere is gone. It has to happen. Gone. No backups. Yeah. All those songs. I'm doing this, Freddie. I'm doing this, Freddie. Gotta keep those songs for sure. Can't lose the music. The last part is the word association. I'm gonna give you one word. Just say the first word right back off the top of your head. Simple as that. Here we go. Starting with hip hop. Anonymous. America. Black America. Corn. Knee. Lawyer. Need one. Ass. Titties. TikTok. Titties. Kanye. West. Jelly. Fish. Octopus. Bar. Lil. Money. OnlyFans.com. Bitcoin. Mm. That was it.

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Yeah, okay. And you need. God. What an interview. What a rampage. What a rampage. Oh my god. Yeah, what was that sample from? Patrick Kearney. Okay. Shout out Pat. Damn. God. Yo. Appreciate you coming on, man. Because y'all used to watch BET back, it used to be like, come on, four in the morning, you'd be sleeping with the TV on, like, be asleep with the TV on. Like, God. Wake you up. Yeah. I love how he thought that we watched BET at 4 a.m. That was that was cute, Keith. Hey, as always, y'all. We appreciate you for tuning in. Y'all playing. I got a I got a white cousin. He from Kenwood Road. Okay, well, you got white friends now. Podcaster. Yo. Until next week, Henry. Getting out of here. Getting the fuck out of here. Peace, y'all.