Anwar Interview: Rick Ross & Red Bull | Secret to Landing Brand Sponsorships $$$

We were expecting like 30 people to come through. It ended up being 500 people. Whoa. Venue was only supposed to fit like 30 people. We had a security guard. He asked us how many people. We told him 30 people. He was like, I'm not coming. A couple like minutes before the event. We see a line wrapped around the building. After that, we were like, oh, we want to do a festival. Hit me, baby, One more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm Playback Ben here with my co-host, Henry with the three, aka The Trap Jack Black. Trap Jack Black. Who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? We have Anwar for the first one. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is my look. I I gotta introduce the guest. Oh, my fault, OG. Okay, look. He only has like a few jobs here. Yeah. You literally took one of three things he does. I'm sorry, bro.

This is my job now. Welcoming in on episode 83 of the One More Time Podcast. Legendary super producer out of Virginia Beach. It's Pharrell. Has anyone ever remotely called you Pharrell? I've not heard that. I kind of struggled with the uh, the lookalike on that one. Who have you gotten? So we're gonna be racist today. That's what we're doing. It's what we're doing. We're off to a great start. I'm not gonna get them canceled. Who have you gotten as a lookalike? Obama sometimes. Damn. Sometimes I get jeezy. Like Jeezy? No, I'm fucking talking, bro. I was like, I'm literally just talking, bro. I mean, I'm Ethiopian, so most Ethiopians lookalike. I would say people always compare me to Jaden Smith, though. Okay, that would have been a good one, yeah. I think I think Obama would have been the funniest for sure. Why did I invite these niggas, Yeah, I don't know. We have a crew here, and one person named Surf has already fallen out of his chair. We're off to a fire start.

No, who do we have for here for me? We have legendary Atlanta. How do you even identify event curator, manager? Like what you know, what what do you identify as these? days? Honestly, I was gonna troll, but I'm not gonna troll. I'm gonna be serious for real. but um I would consider myself like uh yeah, an event curator, artist manager, project manager, like a mixture of like all those different things. For sure. And it's Anwar. Anwar in the building of Lotus Rosary in the building. Yes. So I'm 31. I felt a little about to be 32, Jesus Christ. Felt a little triggered by your recent tweet. You said I got seven years left to make it on the 30 under 30. I really think I can do it. Ben, you can make it on the negative two under 30. No, I'm gunning for the 40 under 40. I'm gunning for the 40 under 40. 40 under 40, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. But but so like, what's the plan? What's the plan? to make it on the 30 under 30? Honestly, like just keep doing what we've already been doing.

I feel like we've cultivated like a great community, and I think that I see like a lot of the people who are on those lists have like achieved something amazing with um with community. So I think just continuing that will like kind of lead us to that. I think, of course, serve being successful in his career. Like, honestly, I feel like the people on 30 under 30 are more so known for like the stuff that they do for the people around them rather than themselves. Like, there's always like this list of like people that they've actually helped, or like, oh, he's responsible for this person, this person, this person, and I think that that's what I I wanted kind of be is just like, oh, like um, what's his name? Clarence Avant. I hope I didn't say that wrong, but it's kind of like the godfather of like music and culture. So that's kind of the goal that I'm going for. Community, I think community is a good word. Yeah. I feel like people that go to Lotus Rosary, like they almost don't care who's on the bill, you know, like they're gonna pull up. Yeah, for sure.

I feel like we've we've cultivated like a good culture where people definitely want to come out and just kind of see like who's the next big thing, or like yeah, so yeah. Yeah, so so to set the stage, you know. I probably should have done this even before the the intro. Lotus rosary was kind of how you got your start, and that is the platform by which you curate events, right? Right. Um, and and so you started that in high school. I mean, right? Yeah, 100%. I started Lotus Rosary when I was 17 years old in high school. Um what even inspired the the thought to do that? Yeah, so honestly, like me and my friends, like we were honestly chill at my crib all the time. I was like, I feel like my home was like the place where a lot of my friends would, like come over. So eventually, like as uh everyone kept coming over and we got older and older, like I started to think like, damn, like what if we all like did something in with like all this energy that we're like taking time to all link up like all the time. Like, what if we like cultivated something?

And I think from there led the idea of like, oh well, let me start my first clothing brand. Like, let's I guess that's where you would start in terms of a brand. Were people doing music? Were people rapping and stuff or making beats? So actually at the time, like when Lotus was first starting, like it was like not even yeah, nobody was really rapping, like for the most part, it was like people like freestyling in the car, like we would all link up, niggas would just be joking type shit, but just normal high school, like friend hang shit, right? Because cafeteria, I'm like just putting myself in your position, right? Yeah, we clearly had a god Henry. This is not the time nor the place. It's always the time for a cafeteria freestyle. No, for sure. I feel like we started initially, like, you know, linking up all the time, and then eventually I wanted to start a clothing brand. I hit up uh two of my close friends, um, one being Oni, and one of my friend Xavier, and you know, Xavier, he was it was really good at like graphics and graphic design for the most part. And Oni had like just this crazy art, the craziest art I've seen today.

So I was just like, bruh, I think we could make something together. So Oni's art, we put it on t-shirts, and you know, we started selling it. Da, da, da, da. It led to my brother, he was uh managing the studio with uh his like good friend Tishan, and one day I linked up with them at the studio. Um I asked to go to the bathroom. As I was going to the bathroom, there's like this window on like the left side. Um as I'm walking, and I see like this curtain. I move the curtain, I see like this huge venue. And like as I was looking at that venue, I was like, bro, what the hell is this? And the guy like Tushan was like, You want it? I'll give it to you for $200. I was like, Yes, an hour the whole thing, What? He just gave it to me for $200. I didn't even know that was a deal at the time. At the time, I was just like, something just told me to say yes, but I didn't even want it. I had no idea of like doing an event. I had no curiosity to do an event.

Like it was just literally was like, Hey, he was just like, Hey, I'll give it to you. And I kind of just jumped and said yes. So then and then figured out how to like make it beneficial. 100%. Like I I feel like it was just like, I'm gonna figure this out. So from there, um I was so consumed with just smoking weed and playing video games and like trying to hit on girls at 17. I don't know. This is just like you know, who's like business opportunities, like whether or not you're thinking it's a steal, it's just like I was like, I'm about to go get a McChicken. What's up? I was also eating McChickens as well. Hell yeah, hell yeah, but no, definitely. I think that at the time we weren't expecting it to be anything crazy. Like in my head, it was just gonna be a launch party party for our clothing brand. Like, this was just hey, let's have a few friends over for a kickback, we'll all sell the t-shirts. It'll kind of just be like a nighttime kind of kickback at this venue. It's not gonna be more than 30 people there.

So, not even people performing music. No, initially not. It wasn't supposed to be about music. I think it led to that from we had like this group me where we had kids from like multiple different schools. Um, and we had joined like a bunch of friend groups from like North Atlanta, North Springs, DeKalb School of the Arts, like everywhere, and then from there, um like I we kind of like hit everyone up asking them like well, a lot of these people did music, like who are in that chat. So we ended up reaching out to everyone um and asking them if they wanted to perform. We had like a good lineup from there, like we just filled in the blanks and Oni drew everyone's head on this flyer, this original flyer. That shit's amazing, by the way. Yeah, Oni Oni and Tyreek, super talented. Tyreek's in the background, right now. Yeah. Shout out to Tyreek. Shout out to Tyreek. He's like, he's like he's like a silent assassin over there. He really is. This, this this kid is amazing.

I did an alarm sound for you. I know you can't hear it. Just no. So where do you think you got the entrepreneurial like spirit? Like, are your parents entrepreneurs at all? Or like you know, where did you even think that starting a thing was even possible? I think that like there was little hints of like me leading down this path in the sense that like I was a kid at school who sold candy. So like I guess like you could say that's like the smallest bit of like entrepreneurial stuff. Definitely. Because it's like I started selling candy. I was like, oh, if I get a Sam's Club membership, like I can I can flip this, like you know what I'm saying. And then I just we ended up making like we were making crazy amounts of money. Like we started like a candy empire in the school. Like it was crazy. We had people selling candy for us in the school. This dude's Captain Snickers, bro. It was nuts. It was like 20% for you to sell, you know what I'm saying? You just give us your cut, and da-da-da-da. we made the Hershey King. It was crazy. That's wild. Me with the wrong mind.

I could have been a villain, bro. Like I literally like- He had guys in the field working for him. He had people fiending for Skittles, bro. I mean, this guy was trapped. Listen, by the time fourth period rolls around, you need a little sugar pick me up. Looks like a good, you know, proposition. It's better than some of the alternatives. Absolutely. It was lit. Big helped me with that empire for sure. Wow. It was no fault. fault. We have one of the candy kings in the building with us. That is incredible. So yeah, just basically like always having that, you know, hustler and kind of entrepreneurial mindset, even though you didn't even probably know what that meant, right? Yeah, yeah. And I think uh both of my parents kind of being like immigrants and um coming here, I think they all kind of like got it out the mud for like my dad, like working from literally just being somebody to like sets tables to being like the general manager at, like the highest position he could get to. Um are they both born in Ethiopia? Uh no, actually, my my mom's from St. Vincent Um and my dad's from Ethiopia.

So they're both like very like hardworking people, and they also like I feel like instilled that in their kids. So yeah. But your first generation. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I I feel like we've had a few other, you know, first generation Americans whose parents were immigrants, and like that story's so consistent, man. It is. It's like, you know, I'm not saying it's a complete rule of thumb, but like generally speaking, you know, immigrants that come here to pursue like that American dream, if you will, like they're coming in and busting their fucking they're not coming in here and being lazy. And chilling. Yeah, no. They didn't leave their country to just sit on their ass. Like, I mean, yeah. So I think that's inspiring. No, thank you. I think with both of my parents, their logic was literally like we're gonna get out here and like grind and like get a better future for our families as well. And I think for me, like I don't take their sacrifices lightly. So I think that's why I don't really play with it. Yeah. For sure. So so the first event, right? Like how successful was it?

Like what was it a success? Yeah, I forgot. I forgot. That's where we were heading. We were expecting like 30 people to come through. It ended up being um 500 people. Whoa. What? In this venue that was venue was only supposed to fit like 30 people. The venue was like stacking bodies. Was literally 200. So you've over doubled that. Bro, we were bugging. We were literally like it was literally so packed in there. It was crazy. Cause in our head, we were like 30 people gonna show up. We had a security guard, he asked us how many people. We told him 30 people. He was like, I'm not coming. Like a couple like minutes before the event literally tells us he's not coming. We're like, man, whatever. Well, I don't think we're inviting anybody who's gonna be on some nut shit. We see a line wrapped around the building. We're like, ugh. So but luckily, everything went well. There wasn't like a single is incident.

And I think that just goes to show what kind of crowd we have, the type of people who are attend our shows. It's just like people who are trying to create. So after that, we were like, Oh, like we want to do a festival. Like, this is definitely like the dream now. This is the the vision. And I feel like like right after that event, I feel like that's when I ran into Tyreek, who is like also now like uh co-founder and also somebody who's like placed like just such a pivotal role in like what we do from the branding, the graphics, like VFX, stage graphics, anything you pretty much see with Lotus, it's like hard to say that he doesn't have his hand in it. So I think from there we met him at one of our shows, and I think it's really cool. I know I'm going on a tangent, but I think it's cool how like um how our platform a lot of people who were attend our events have like elevated and have like also tried to like come back and be a part of like what we're doing, and I think that that's what kind of makes our movement very special is because it's not one of those things that you kind of just pass through. It's like everyone is like has this like one goal just to be successful and they all reach back and like try to like help people come up.

Yeah, so kind of primarily speaking about the artists that maybe have been on the lineups, is that is that where you're I mean like or just any anyone involved, I guess. Literally the attendees, like some of the attendees were literally like people who, for instance, uh Joshua Robinson, like that was somebody who was just pulling up to our events. He now writes for like he wrote for Creative Loaf and he's wrote for Hot New Hip Hop. And like he's literally be like, yeah, I used to come to you guys' events all the time. I've been like now I'm just gonna cover them with creative loafing. I'm now gonna cover them with this. So it's like the people who are literally in the crowd became like some of the more pivotal people at these events, and just off of showing like love and just being kind to people, like people came back. It's just an inspiring, it's like a breeding ground. Yeah, it's for creativity. Yeah, so obviously the average concert attendee is not looking to just give back to that like show in any way. Necessarily, yeah. I mean, just on average, right? So, what do you think it is about the community aspect, right? That you've done successfully, right?

Why do you think that is? Honestly, I think it's because like this was made by us for us. I think that that's like that plays a pivotal part in it. Like this is true. Shout out Fubu. But I think that because it's like what we put out there is like anyone can like make it. We're just trying to like help people get to that next level. I think when you put out that energy, it just comes back to you when like everyone sees like, oh, these people like are giving their all to this one cause, and it's not like we're they're not seeing us make a million dollars right now. They're just seeing us like go through 40 shows in a year, like raw, and like not coming out of it with like some crazy profit, not overtaxing people, just literally trying to make an impact, trying to get artists to like this next level in their career. And I think that's what like leads people to want to come back to just fuck with us. Yeah, you just attract kind of what you put out. For sure.

And then it leads and it just builds. You did 40 shows one year? Yeah, no, that was like I was like, hold on. It's almost every week. Bro, it was like twice a week some weeks. Like it was OD. Like that was like my I feel like that was my burnout phase. Cause when I was like younger, like I had the we had like one, we had like a terrible mentor, bro. Like worst mentor. Not gonna even shout out to that person real quick. For sure, for sure. No, shout him out. Nah, nah. We do need the we need the clickbait, Loki. Nah, nah, nah. We call him Moldy Butt. That's almost better than whoever the person's real name is. We call that nigga Moldy Butt. Moldy butt. You know who you are. That's amazing. I'm so happy that Moldy Butt's gonna watch this and feels triggered. Triggered. He's yeah. But I feel like for him, uh he was a blessing in disguise though, because I think that from there, like I learned my limits. Like, um, just from like seeing how far we're willing to like take it to be successful or to go that hard from week to week.

It's like he showed me my limits, and sometimes like there's it's not all bad, you know. Like you can you can even if it's like you're in a bad situation, you can take positives from it. And I think I I learned a lot in that situation, just like on how to outwork people, how to do this. But the ultimate thing I learned was quantity is not better than quality. And it quality will always beat that every single time. So did you slow down? Yeah, we slowed down and cause in my head, like the thing I cared about was sponsorships. Like that when I initially met him, I was trying to like learn how to to tap into those like higher clients, how to like get out of this underground circuit, but like bring it with us at the same time as we like go to this next level. And so I feel like since we slowed down, we started thinking about like, oh, like what do sponsors care about? We met people who are actual, like um, whose actual jobs is to go find sponsorships. We started to find people who were just on a similar wave, and from learning from them, we were able to get like a fucking list of them, like from like Just Water, Comcast, like um Red Bull, Sprite, a bunch.

Like, I can't even. But yeah, I think like I feel like that's played a pivotal role in what you've been able to do is like bring Atlanta's I mean underground scene, honestly, to these big brands, bro. I that's something I've looked at. Because they have no way of finding they don't know and what who's coming up, they don't know. They gotta tap into someone like an Anwar, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I appreciate that. I think that that is definitely our strong suit is that we know where the youth is, we know how to tap in with them, we know what they care about, their values, and I think that that's um kind of like the strong point we have is like when I talk to these brands, they're like they find out my age like later on and they're like, what? Like that was my reaction. I saw that tweet and I was like, no way this dude's not 30. It was like he's not like someone checked the birth certificate. He shouldn't be allowed to compete in this 30 under 30 competition. So I I definitely hear where they're coming from.

Nah, I appreciate that. Yeah, Nah, I mean, definitely the way you carry yourself is you know, not immature at all. So, like that, that's probably their reaction for sure. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I feel like I saved that for the group chat and I'll be acting a child in there. Oh, yeah. Gotta let it out somewhere. Right. You know what I mean? But yeah. Yeah. So, like working with the brands, like, how do those conversations go? Like, for those that don't know, right? Like, when you get a meeting with a Red Bull or a Comcast or a Sprite or whoever the fuck, right? These big brands that have a lot to lose when it comes to their brand reputation. What is the pitch? Like, how do those meetings go? Ultimately, I feel like when it comes to certain brands, at the end of the day, they're not gonna fuck with you unless they have a point of reference. So for the end, like for me, like when it came to Red Bull, like that was my mentor who put me onto that. Like it was literally like Yusuf. Like, I was like, bro, like I'm trying to figure out the sponsorship space. He has like a ton of relationships in the sponsorship realm because he does like every festival.

He's helped out with like some of the biggest festivals on the planet. Well, Yusuf, it was it was crazy, even how I met him. It was just literally um, I had seen his Instagram page, and then I saw him walking down the street one day as I was like skating, and I walked up to him. I was like, Hey, you ain't you inspire me. And he was with his like his wife and his child. Um, and then literally a week later, he posted something saying like he's looking for a mentee to take on. And so, like, I had like all the people from Lotus go and comment. His shit hit like a thousand comments, and then he was just all in awe. Yeah, he's like, Well, fuck. I guess I gotta give this Anwar guy a chance. Yeah, and then he realized it was me from that time on the street, and he was just like, Yeah, I'm gonna teach you everything that I've ever learned. Like, like I want you to have the same relationships that I have. I want you to be able to take this shit further than me. Like, you're going to be the next big thing. Here's everything, ask me any question.

Wow. Damn. Shout out to Yusuf for sure. Major. Yusuf's a legend, bro. Like, that's the thing. Like, he's just the type of person to like literally be like, if you're a good person, I'm just gonna give it, I'm just gonna give you all the game. And that's kind of my energy too. I've learned it just comes back, right? It comes back to you. Definitely. Like anything with when it comes to my friends, like you ask me how to do something, I'm literally gonna tell you how to do it. I'm gonna tell you who to talk to, I'm gonna tell you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and that really goes for anyone. It's just like I I'm not the type of person to hide information from people. Yeah. So Yusuf ends up lining up some meetings for you. Yeah. So I'm like, how do they go? Like what if you know, like how nervous are you going into these, like, I don't know how to send a good email. I was shaking. I was literally shaking, like my chest was like, my heart was beating out my chest. Like I was like, what is this? Like, world. I don't know how to navigate these waters. But luckily, um, I did have a little bit of experience dealing with like sponsors in the past and like learning what not to do. Um, but literally the conversation goes down to what is the demographics we're trying to reach, if it matches their KPIs.

Um key performance indicators for those who I was gonna say that aren't fucking nerds like us. You gotta hit those KPIs, people gotta hit the KPIs, boys. Yeah, so at the end of the day, to break it down, it's like brands care about like some people are trying to reach the coolest, like suburb kids, like some brands are trying to reach the older punk kids, like they're every brand has like certain things that they're trying to hit, and then at the end of the day, they have these um numbers that indicate how far how close they are to their goals. So for me, like KPIs for dummies, yeah. So you're trying to prove that you can hit their goals yeah so like for us like our goals were like okay you have to get this amount of people into a venue you have to this it has to be like these amount of like students or like this amount whatever demographic you're coming to us for usually for us it's college students so it's like this amount of college students need to be in the building like da da da they give us like five pretty much like standards to like go by and that determines if we've had a successful partnership and then from there it's like I just yeah so I you hit those KPIs and then they'll come back again. Did you use that like 500 person that 30 person turn 500 person first event to like show them because like how do they know what the fuck you're about to do right Did you use, like did you use kind of like the proof of concept that was your launch party as like an example I feel like some people just don't believe in something unless they were there.

So for one it's like inviting these sponsor like these reps from these companies to come to your events to see what it actually is then they can be like it's actually dope or literally it's just about the stats like how many emails do you have like at the end of the day these brands yeah it's just brass tacks of just like what are the numbers like at the end of the day like that's the most basic way that they can measure it is like if you have this amount of emails you can literally touch this many people period. Like and that's what they want and that's what they're giving you this fund for that's what they're doing all this for so yeah no it makes sense so you were interviewed by Verizon. So shout out another giant brand. They like interviewed you and talked to you about like how you've leveraged their like small business portal with all this information, whatever. You mentioned like your goal, and you kind of alluded to this at the beginning. Like your goal for this shit is to eventually one day like take out the Coachellas of the world, right? Like, I mean, is that still your goal? Because that's what you said in that like little bit. Like, is that still where you're at?

I feel like honestly, one like our dreams are ever changing. So like they're always evolving and adding on to them. Uh where are you at right now? Right now, I don't, for one, I don't believe in like eating anyone's business or okay, taking out with okay, he's so peaceful. Taking out, he's like, that's too much bigger than you can coexist with Coachella. As big as I'd like to partner with Coachella, honestly. Okay, shout out to that. But but basically putting on a massively internationally recognized music festival was one of your goals, according to this was like back in January, maybe of this year. Yeah, 100%. I think the goal at the end of the day is to be a traveling festival similar to like warp tour, uh, rolling loud, Coachella. Like, if you could mix all three of those in one, you would get Lotus Rosary. Absolutely. So, how are we tracking to that? Like, what I mean, are we are we taking steps, you know what I mean? Like, obviously, you've been dominating still the Atlanta market. I feel like you're still having the who's who of like the next wave of artists on your lineups.

You obviously have successful shows. I went to your, you know, Sonder City one recently, super amazing event. Like, are we tracking, you know, I mean, like what what's what's the next next event, like you know, where are we at as far as like that goal? Yeah, so I think that like honestly, like I said, like we did 40 events in like one year, and we've been doing this since we were like 17 years old. So my priority right now has been like like recalibrating. I think that at the end of the day, like dope companies are made up of dope people. When you put dope people together, you get something beautiful, and so in my head, like I decided that like everyone in the company needed to take like a break. Cause I think that when we're all like chasing this thing, we forget to just be 23. You know, we forget to be 22. We forget to check in on our family members. We forget to spend time with people that we love and care about. And like that entrepreneurship, for one, it's not meant for everyone, but at the end of the day, when you're in it, you're you're making sacrifices so that you don't have to do things later.

And I think that right now we need to just take time to take a break so we can do the long haul. Cause at the end of the day, our logic is like, let's let's work, let's work so we don't have to work when we're 40. Let's work so we don't have to work when we're 35. That's the goal. So at the end of the day, like right now, I think it's like we're stretching and like doing a pit stop just to literally go crazy. So right now, how hard is that for you guys? It's hard when you don't know how to take a break. It is I don't know what to do with my hands. If someone told me to not do an interview next week, I would flip out. Fucking kill you. I would I don't know what I would do. Yeah, and I guess that was a thing because I was sitting with my friend one day, and he was like, We're literally, you do understand, like one day, like when you're like 20, 30, like in your late 20s, we're going to have to take you on an island and throw your phone away and like strap and like just leave you stranded on this island so you can fucking learn how to relax. And that was valid.

Like, I didn't know, I didn't know how to chill. I didn't know how to be on the game for like that long of a time. Like, I didn't know how to I didn't know what I liked at the end of the day. So I'm like, if these people are spending all this time with me, and we're always trying to figure out this next thing, it's like, when do you guys find time to think about what y'all care about? You know, Lotus can't be everything. I mean, it can be, but at the end of the day, it's like I want everyone to have their other goals. I want to have everyone to have their own shit, find figure out who they are so that when we're going to this next level, nobody feels like they've like lost anything with like dedicating so much time to like where we're trying to go. I told Ben, I was like, yeah, I kind of just want to like chill on making beats for a little bit. He's like, oh, so you're not a producer anymore. Yeah. And he's like, no, bro. That's it. Like you're done. No, not necessarily, man. Like, the point was, excuse me. The point the point was basically that, like if your current goals though are, or like short-term goals are to get placements with artists as a producer. I was just being very matter of fact that beats need to be made and beats need to be sent out.

I mean, it's just how the game works. But isn't that such a like a factory machine way of looking at shit? Like, if I'm not inspired to make it a beat, should I just be chunking out bullshit beats, is that really what's gonna help me? At the end of the day, I think that every human being on this planet is different. And like what Surf said recently, he was like, Like, I can't. He he was saying that like I have to take a break sometimes from just doing this shit because I literally need to go experience more life. Yes. I'm actually talking about shit that I do. Thank you, Surf. In like real life. Like he's actually talking about his life. Like he said he he was he hadn't got he realized, like, okay, I made the same song a few times, like I need to live a little bit. And that's where I'm at with Lotus. too. Figure shit out. Yeah. It's like a collective thing. Like, we're literally on some like, this is fucking fire, but like, what if we just took a second to think about how we can make this the next big thing rather than like just literally winging it every single time or like being on autopilot, right? Being on autopilot, because at a certain point you're like, you're always bringing in that next opportunity, but it's like I don't want to be at a point where I can't afford to say no to an opportunity because I'm like just trying to make it to the next thing.

Cause I think that the people who like are like on this next level aren't necessarily thinking about like, oh, I gotta do this, this, and that, and this and that. They're always just thinking about how can I be innovative, how can I make this the best product ever. And I think that that's that's where I'm at right now. It's like just going back to the bare bones, like being friends. Do you ever meditate or do any stuff like that? Or like take mindful minutes. Is that is that the vibe I'm giving right now? Like super peaceful. He asked this question like a lot. I'm interested in it. He's into it, so he's just I am. I'm just Taking time to like, you know, if it's like 10 minutes a day, or if it's like a day out of a month, to like just not think about shit and just fucking clear your mind. Like, I'm not gonna think about literally anything right now. It sounds like he probably wasn't very good at doing that. So based on everything he just described, right? Not being able to take a break. But should maybe try it. He sounded like a me character versus a you character. Right.

So the thing about it was I used to like meditate a lot when I was really just not feeling well, but um, like recently I learned like meditation can come in different forms. So for me, like meditation is literally just hopping on a game with my friends, like it just not thinking about work, literally just doing that has been like for me, peace. It's like we can just have fun, do what we need to do, absolutely to keep afloat, but like we're all overall just like relaxing and having a good time and chilling. Yeah, so my version of that is I play basketball on the weekends actually in Cam Kirk's pickup league. Oh wow. Yeah. Do you be out there with them? I be hooping with them. He tries. That's hilarious. Hey, I can guard Cam. But so Cam, he just calls you up. No, I mean, you know, he's a competitor, but um that for me is the same thing where like my phone is clearly on the bleachers, yeah, like not accessible to me. Cause even if I'm like out for like a walk or a run, right?

Getting exercise, my phone's in my pocket. Listening to a podcast or something. And I can answer you or text whoever and look at whatever, right? It's not actually disconnected. In basketball, I have my shit, you know, on the frickin' bleachers, out of you know, arm's reach or whatever. Right. Um, but and that's exactly how it is for me, man. Like I have to do it. And even though it's only once a week, like I have to do it. But see, like you you you hoop and you got your games, but y'all are still like your brain is very active during those times. Yeah, 100%. I think y'all could both afford to take like 10 minutes a day where your brain literally just you just think about your breath. Well, you could you could afford to think about things more, Henry. So how about that? I I mean there's a that's why we balance each other. out really well. But so collective gallery is described as the record label for photographers. Yeah, so dope. You have since become the project manager at Collective Gallery, right? Yeah. What is the record label for those that have no idea what the fuck that actually I don't know what that means. Okay, so for Henry and others, what is the vision uh behind Collective Gallery, right?

And then we'll kind of get into your role. Right. So I I guess the vision for um collective gallery is just like creating like a brand in a name that's more like respectable for photographers everywhere. Um, I think that when it comes to like the music industry and just entertainment industry in general, like photographers, videographers, like those people are like almost like disrespected a lot. And it's like become like the standard of like, you know, whether that comes to like not paying them on time, like treating them like they're just like some extra or like whatever the case is. But I guess they wanted to break that stigma and show like how important like photographers are and to like treat them actually like artists. And so they are like artists who are signed to this label. Um imagine an artist with no visuals. Exactly. Like they build the world for these artists, they break artists, like to some degree, like photographers, videographers, like just content creator, like artists are built off of content creation. So But so you tweeted this as well, project manager.

Damn, you were going through my tweets. Yeah. Project manager, hey hey, creatives. Oh no. So I think you retweeted that actually. But so my understanding of that is that there's clearly some beef between the creatives. and the project management. Wow, I gotta be careful with what I am like tweeting. Cause I think that for one, that wasn't even about collective gallery in general. No, I think it's, I mean, just what was it about? Oh, for me, it was just literally like I think at the end of the day, creatives are like in impulsive, creatives are like loose. I think they're just like, okay, I want a I want to create a fucking rocket ship. Like, we're gonna do this tomorrow. But like for project managers, I guess that my responsibility is to like fine-tune that, make it realistic, and then like help us build up to to making that rocket ship. The actual plans and steps that it takes to make a rocket ship. And so I think with creatives, it's like okay, I'm gonna build rocket ship this day, and then I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna fly it on this day, and then like, and so it's like I'm filling in those gaps constantly.

And so I think that sometimes like like project managers can um can be too structural and like be too like by the books, like this is how we have to do things to get to where we're trying to go. When sometimes and like sometimes I can take the fun out of creating, like even on the creative side, like they just want to create and make the dopest shit, and it's like it's my job to fill in those gaps. So to a certain degree, it can fall on me or it can fall on them. So yeah, so it's almost like sometimes you guys are viewed as like the creativity killers. Yeah, 100%. 100%. How much do you feel that way as a manager? As a manager, I don't feel like that at all. And even at my job, I don't feel like that at all. I just have heard stories from other people who are talking about it, and that's why I think it's funny. But in my world, it's like so easy. Like, cause at this point, I don't deal with people who aren't receptive of me or like the knowledge that I bring. Like, I I don't deal with people who stress me out anymore. So you've never been like Surf, that's single you want to drop is trash.

Um, no, because I think that everything that Surf does is fucking dope. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, for me, it's like, okay, this is fucking dope, but this is a stronger single rather than like taking down the artist, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you know how to word it, kind of like yeah, positive, positively. See, but I think that you've just recognized as well, and I mean we were kind of chatting about this off camera, is that you recognize that you want to work with people who take your you know pragmatic approach, right? And the fact that you do understand what it is going to take to get from point A to point B with a project or with a rollout or whatever. You you've partnered now with people who trust your feedback to the point where, yeah, maybe you're not coming across as like a creativity killer. You're coming across as just like, hey, I want to get this shit done just as much as you do, but just so you know, here's what I think it needs, like this is what needs to happen. Yeah, for sure. And I think it goes both ways. It goes both ways.

Like at the end of the day, if I'm not moving the right way, Surf gonna call me, me and tell me, like, hey, bro, like you could have just done this this way. Like, he's also like a genius in his own right. So it's like in my head, I can't even like I don't know. It feels like weird taking credit for anything because it's like this nigga literally like I've watched this man edit his own videos. Oh, we just saw it. Yeah, we just watched it. Yeah, yeah, like inspired he's amazing, he's crazy. But you like make you take the steps to keep the train moving. Yeah, you put the coal in there, you know. what I mean, however, trains work. I was like, wow, I didn't know you were so knowledgeable about trains. I'm not, yeah, you know, the coal. Um, yeah, so what's been like one thing though about because is Surf the first artist that you manage? And shout out Surf in the building. He was a podcast alumni, a cypher alumni, one of our family members over here in the building. Um, is Surf the first artist that you've managed officially? Um, officially, yes.

I've attempted to manage before, and like I just wasn't like I I feel like I didn't have enough knowledge, and like just having many mentors who have like taught me how to navigate the how to navigate certain opportunities and like what to do in those situations. Excuse me. I found like what is like sorry, lost my train of thought. What was the question? If Surf was the first artist you officially manage, you said no. Oh, yeah, yeah. Or like officially, yes, but you know, unofficially, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like unofficially, no. Like, I feel like I've had other artists that I've helped before, but I've never told them I was their manager because I felt like one is about compatibility, like at the end of the day with Surf, like, I know we're friends if we're not doing the shit. Like, that's really just my homie that I just help out. Yeah. That's all my friends, too, though. What specifically about the manager role has kind of come as a surprise to you, right?

Like maybe it was something you didn't expect was gonna be a part of the job, or like, you know, one thing you run into that, you know. Food runs. Um Jesus, Henry. he's not that kind of manager. Put some respect on all of our team. I know, I know. I'm joking. I mean, I'll make a food run. He's like, whatever gets us. But that's because you're hungry. We all gotta eat. We need 10 McChickens right now. Shout out to the McChickens. Do we have a McDonald's sponsor? The McChickens has never gotten this much love on the podcast. I'm gonna tell you that. Like, I know, like, is there one thing that you know kind of has been a you know bit of a learning curve? Obviously, you've got like some strong mentors. I mean, shout out Key Henderson who just put me on blast because I I was fucking with the Grammys, and she was like, Well, it's not that bad if you have one. And I was like, damn. She kind of tried you. She tried me a little bit. That was a good one. She's a Grammy award winning manager who I know is you know in your circle, right? Key gonna pop her shit. If that's one thing she gonna do, yeah.

And then I don't think she meant any hard by that. She didn't, no, she didn't. No, I I basically was like, Do y'all fuck with the Grammys? She was like, Yeah, I do, because I have one. And then she put like the crying emoji. I was like, damn that, and and then I reposted that and I was like, I'd probably fuck with them if I had one too. I'm not gonna lie, like I feel like that's that's like a general consensus. Cause who wouldn't like fuck the Grammys? Wait, I'm nominated. Hold up. Like, wait. Wait, I won? Guys, we need to respect the Grammys. Yeah. Nah, for sure. I think that the learning curve for me was just like, I mean, I don't know. I think it's the learning curve was patience for the most part. I think that for me, it's like, okay, if I put all these things together, like we should this should like, we should be at this point, right? And that's how it works in my head. But in reality, it's like it's like it's never like growth isn't linear. At the end of the day, we're like spiraling upwards in my head. I know that sounds crazy, but it's like when it comes to opportunities, that's kind of how it works.

Like you're like constantly going in this circle and it's like going up. And I like that. That's an amazing analogy. Like most moves kind of send you sideways, but your general trajectory is up. Bro, I feel like that even with the podcast. I'm sure you even felt like that at times with Lotus. No, for sure. I think that that's literally what we're in. And once I like got out this place, that it's not gonna just be like, okay, we hit this, and then we go up here and like we do rolling loud, and then we go up here and we're like the biggest artist. Like, it's literally like we gotta do all the fucking opportunities on this level, get to the next level, do all those opportunities, get to the next level, and it's just like a constant grind. So getting more comfortable with that, and like understanding that, like, you know, everyone like just having grace with everyone, because we're all like learning, and this is like a very um, very pivotal time in everyone's careers, and just yeah, I just had to learn patience for sure. Yeah, I'm shit. Still working on it. Let me know how you learned because I'm still trying to pick that uh that trade up.

Do you ever look at it? Um, like you said you're a gamer. Do you ever like see similarities there? Because I was just thinking when you were talking about like leveling up, you know. And I I used to game a lot. Yes, 100%. I 100% believe in like the hero's journey. Yeah. In the sense that, like, you got to, like, every game is very similar in the sense that you got to go through this hard shit, and you get rewarded for that. Gotta do some side quests. Literally, you gotta do some side quests. Like, yeah, that's that's constantly how it feels until we get to like where we want to go. Yeah. So I definitely do to answer your question. I definitely do. We're just out here trying to beat the game, man. But then sometimes I try not to look at it like that. This is a sick fucking game sometimes. Because sometimes it literally feels like a game, and I'm like, dang, bruh. Feels like we're getting played sometimes, right? Like did he just glitch? Like what um all right. So you're fresh off of the uh first Red Bull Symphonic. Yeah, man, that shit was crazy. It looked amazing. What is it? Yeah, like for those that didn't see that happen, like what was it? So Red Bull Symphonic was for one, that was the first one we've done in America, like it's been done other places, but not in the US.

So the first time, you know, um we wanted to pair literally uh hip hop musician with a live orchestra and like choir and and all that and band, pretty much, to make like literally a symphony, like with uh musical artists. And so for for Atlanta, like we wanted to make it super special. So they picked, of course, Rick Ross, because that would just that was that's just like a staple here. And he just has, like, the elegant, expensive sounding music already, you know? I think he was the perfect person for that. Cause literally, like people say like it feels like you're wearing like an expensive coat when you listen to his music. Just like some mink. Yeah, for sure. Big fur. And just seeing the event and just seeing like everyone wearing like the the way his music sounds, like everyone was dressed like that. Like everyone was wearing like mink coats and like full tuxes, like so live audience. Yeah, yeah. No, this was a live audience. Okay, for sure. I I didn't know if it was just, you know, pre-recorded type of shit. It was at um Atlanta Symphony Hall.

Like this was a thing you could buy tickets to. They just sold out so fast that they halted all the promo. Yeah, I never even saw that it was an option to buy a ticket. It's too late. People heard about it and it was just damn. So what was your role? I know you were playing some sort of like assistant, you know, yeah, so production person, maybe or something. Like, what were you doing? For the most part, I like literally do what I do typically everywhere, it's just like assisting wherever it's needed. So I feel like you could put me in like a PA role, but like I think that like I handle a lot of different, like really in like the a lot of different responsibilities in like the artist relations role, in the sense of like getting Rick Ross from his room to the stage and like just doing certain tasks like that, um, that go a little bit past like being just an assistant. So I think yeah, that's uh for the most part, like I was just running around doing like a million things, whatever kind of needed to get done. Similar to my show, it's like because I have like show expertise, I can tell people when I see like a hole or when I see something that might be a potential issue, it's just calling it out and then also just like seeing who I need to talk to to fix this situation before it becomes a bigger problem. Like literally just practicing risk management and then also just yeah, just artist relations, like not pissing off any of the artists, making sure that people ain't like running up to them, like acting crazy, just like making it as smooth as possible, making sure that the relationship between the brand um and the team and the event is all great.

Um, and then not that's a success. Was that the highest production level event that you've been a part of? It looked insane. I mean, you were in like a control room on one of your posts where it was like 30 fucking production screens of like camera angles and shit. Like, was that like the highest production level event or or like some other ones you've done? I feel like the craziest shit I've done today was like Afropunk. Oh, yeah. I think was like insane just because it was like Lucky Day, Burner Boy, Isaiah Rashad, uh fucking Doechii, like all these like big names, like all back to back, like having to drive them around like in a little golf cart, like get them to certain stages, like making sure that they're straight, like talking to their team members, making sure that like audio team knows where they are, making sure everyone knows what's going on. I feel like that was the craziest shit because that was like the first time for when I got like flown out to like do a job because this was in like Brooklyn. So yeah, it's gotta feel more serious when they fly you out.

No, it was different. I was like, We need to go. We need Anwar on a jet tomorrow for Afropunk. Because in my head, I'm like, bro, that means that like I've gotten to a certain level where people have like seen my expertise in like another city and have been like, there's all these people who are in the city that would be a much cheaper, reliable option. But like at the end of the day, like what did I do to stand out to get an opportunity like that? Right. So I think that that was like proof for me that I was elevating. It was also like something I wasn't gonna play with. I think Red Bull, that event was also like just for me the most well curated event. But right, that's always Red Bull's thing. Like everyone there is just so happy. Like, usually there's one asshole at every event. They're just geeked up on energy drinks, right? Do you know that could be it? They're just like, give me another Red Bull. Let's fucking go. That could be it. I'm fucking pump to do this Red Bull symphonic, bro. Yeah, it could be it. That could be it. They just really take care of their workers too, though. Like, yeah, everyone there is just such like they the culture of their company is like so strong. Like and also it like it's it's hard for me to even name a non-music brand that's more entrenched in music than Red Bull.

They really are they were doing, I mean, a lot of brands are hopping into like music ventures now, I think, but Red Bull's been on that shit. Yeah, they're crazy. Like, if you just take your day to just like go through the city of Atlanta and try to find a Red Bull, like the Red Bull logo or can or sign or something, you will find it. I guarantee you within the first two hours. Yeah, gives you wings. That's great. For sure. No, I mean, so like when it comes to the artist relations, I'm just like kind of curious, right? Like, are you typically interfacing with the managers and shit? And like they're kind of giving you this like laundry list of you know, hey, here's what we need right now, or whatever, or is it sometimes the artists are like coming to you too? Or typically typically my job is just literally like if they have a concern rather than like there's people who like run hospitality who are the people who get like food and stuff for them who are like more so PAs, but most um other sets I've been like hired as actual artist relations in the sense that like I'm talking to like these artists and like making sure that they're good. They're like, Oh, I'm worried that um there's like a little crack in the stage.

Like I'm worried that like my heel might go through it or something. Just some like really specific issues. Like, like and it's just about problem solving at the end of the day. It's just people. You put out fires. Pretty much. Or prevent them from ever happening. Yeah, right. Probably is the preferred method, right? So it's like fire preventer. Yeah. He does have his extinguisher on Just a case. Just a case. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like my friend, I feel like my friends always come to me and they're like, You're you have a lot of answers for problems. And I realize that's just my job. So for sure. There you go. Well, yo, you've got an amazing uh, you know, journey so far. Only like 23. Like how old are you? Yeah, I'm 23. 23. Yeah. Still blows my mind. Incredible, man. Thank you. We have entered a final segment of the podcast. Let's do it. H3, where are we at? This is the rapid fire rampage. What's this? I'm glad that you don't know because it makes it that much more fun.

Sir, if you didn't watch your episode, yeah. Just admit it. Oh, shit. This is my fault. I need to do more research. I definitely watched parts of it, but I didn't. this is the end though. Yeah, did you get through the hour though? No, no, no. So it's a three-part rampage. Oh god. We're gonna start with just some quick short answer questions. Yeah. Then we're gonna do some this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. You pick one. We're gonna finish it off with a word association where I just shoot you a word and you just shoot me one, maybe two words right back. And it's all based on speed. There's no correct answers. It's just how quickly do you it's rapid fire rampage. Okay. Sound good? So it's like literally asking me questions, I'm answering them, and then the next words. Okay, cool. We'll go back over the parts as we get there. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Here we go. Rapid fire rampage. One more time podcast, episode 83 with Anwar. Rampage! Anwar, what is something you would refuse to do under any circumstance? Um go against my morals.

When was the last time you did something for the first time? Um last Friday, I went and uh we did like pickup games at like I started like a group for like doing soccer pickup games. I like that. If you had to murder somebody, how would you do it? Um kill them with kindness. Damn, that's fire. I was trying to get something negative out of it. So nice. I know. Kill them with kindness. It's an amazing answer. so quick. It was fast, too. Like you've been asked that before. We media trained over here. He said he hasn't watched it. Yeah, that was part of his ploy. I haven't watched the Rapid Fire Rampage. Yet He's prepared for weeks. What is this? He's prepared for weeks. Moving on. Come on, throw him a curveball, Henry. You've just purchased MySpace. Yo, this voice. It's so bad.

Okay. What is the first thing you do to improve the company? Damn. to improve MySpace. I think for sure I would like one, bring all the elements from the dopest apps right now. So that would be like um, for one, TikTok, like short form vertical, something like that, but also like giving like influencers like some type of budget to like come on here and create content and like drop the bag. Wait, MySpace exists. Yeah, probably. Probably. MySpace is still alive. I think it is it. I think I don't think it's like like thriving like it was at his hype. Oh, clearly. But we could hit up Tom and ask what he's doing. I don't know. I think there's many ways to make something hot again. Honestly. For sure. I think it's just like getting with the times and get uh once you find the youth and get them on that platform, like that's how you win. Anwar, this next question is somewhat of a scientific question.

Oh god. Perhaps philosophical. Oh sorry. What is the first day of the week? Monday? Thank God. More of a Sunday guy myself, but we'll put a compilation in there later. We got some disagreement in the crowd. But I stand with you. I stand with you, Anwar. I stand with you. Some people think it's Sunday. Sunday is not the first day of the week. Moving on. Moving on. Okay. Yeah. I mean, we like, no. No, some psychopaths out there. Moving on. It's a rapid fire including some of the people in the Thank you, Ben. This is not your rampage. Studio audience. Hey, man. Whenever I get paid is my first day of the week. I like that answer. Mondays. Sure. This next one is uh you get paid on Mondays. I mean, anyways. This next one is more of a social issue. Okay. Why aren't you whispering? Because I haven't started the question yet.

You're right. Anwar. Yes. Do you put ketchup in the fridge? There has been ketchup. yes, I put ketchup in the fridge. I'm a psychopath. No, you're normal. Okay. For me. Yes. Doesn't it say it doesn't say on there? refrigerate after opening? It totally says it. Oh, yeah. Some people are sick. Some people are sickos. 16-year-old Anwar has just moved into your house. What is the first thing you argue about? Um relax, nigga. Chill out. You'll be high. He's doing too much. You're too piped up. Anwar, you must get rid of three states. Which states do you delete? Oh, fucking. What was it? Ohio? We were talking about Ohio. Yeah, there's like this fucking TikTok shit. It's a meme, right now. Yeah, Vic put me on that shit. But yeah, fuck Ohio. I don't know. No, I actually don't fuck Ohio. I just fucked my brain. You just fucked it. So two more. states. Fuck my brain up. Damn. You're not doing a festival in Cleveland anymore.

Kid Cudi and MGK are out. Kid Cudi, damn. But um, I feel like I'ma just say Idaho. But I like fries. But um then I'll also say uh Alabama. Not mad at that one at all. It's a good one. Absolutely fine. Anwar, how many cherries would fit in a treasure chest? How many cherries? How big is a treasure chest? Standard size treasure chest. What is a standard size? I will say I could fit 63,000 cherries in a That's a lot of cherries. Wrapping up the short answer here. What is your favorite curse word? Um god damn it! Part one. It was totally worth the wait. Somehow it added to the effect. Yeah, it's super dramatic.

I was like, maybe this guy doesn't curse. I don't know. He seems so nice. That was a decent part one. You can still improve here on these last two parts. This one is the this or that. I give you two choices. Pick your favorite. Here we go. Rampage! Singing or rapping? Uh singing. Jazz or country? Jazz. Drums or melodies. Melody. Drums or flats. Flats. TikTok or YouTube? YouTube. PlayStation or Xbox? Xbox. Never brush your teeth again or never cut any hair again. Never cut any hair. I feel like because I'm Ethiopian, I could get away with it. Might be able to. Look 20 years older from the neck up or the neck down. Wait, say that again. Look 20 years older. From the neck up or from the neck down.

From the neck up. I feel like I'd be a sexy old man. Look like a fish or smell like a fish. Damn. Can I do something to cover it up? Damn. Damn. We can work alone. This is a hard one. I'm a damn. Some people like fish. I'm gonna have to smell like fish, bro. Because like some people scales. Yeah, bro. I might just like have to like work and like uh damn. I'm allergic to shellfish. Damn. I ain't think this one through. Just work, just work at like a fish factory. And it would explain the smell. Blame it on the fish. Yeah, I was just at work all day. Like, sorry. I work a lot. You guys are crazy. Last one of the this or that. Here we go. Are we going to get a face tat of DJ Khaled or lose a pinky? Lose a fucking pinky. Gone. Part two. Damn. Much better. That was better than part one. No one rocks with Khaled, bro. We do.

Put Khaled on my face. Maybe I'll be crazy. I mean, I don't fuck with him like that. I don't think I like him that much. either. It's like a pinky. I'll wear gloves. All the time? All the time, bro. All right. So it's all gonna boil down. It's all gonna boil down to this last part. This is the word association. I'm gonna give you one word, and you just say the first word, maybe two words off the top of your head, right back at me. Sound good? Here we go. Part three. Nigga. What did you just say? I'm just trying to get me canceled. One's in the beginning and one's at the end. The sound effect says rampage. First of all. I'm so sorry. Yo, that was crazy. You had me thinking I said something. I wasn't supposed to. I didn't even know what I was doing. What did I say? I was so quickly about to find a new co-host. Like I was about to pull one of these guys on and just keep rolling. What did you just call him? What did you just call him? Can we start the I'm so glad that wasn't me?

I broke Henry, bro. I'm so glad that wasn't me. Holy shit. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Dude, he he'd been planning this the whole interview. This was your plan. I gotta keep it in. We're keeping all this, even though I'm embarrassed. He's totally seen the rampage. He was like, part three. I didn't say anything crazy. Jesus. What the hell? Yo, what if I edit in like Henry's saying some wild shit? I'm the editor. Yo, I'm the editor. I can make it really violent. That's wild. Quiet in the peanut gallery, please. Thank you. All right. Quiet on the set. Starting as always. Free Henry. Starting as always. with Hip hop. Oh, the first word, sorry, my brain. Um surf. Girl. What boy?

Judge. Judy. She's a good one. Zero. Fatigue. Glock. Pistol. Hockey. Puck. Silver. Gold. Lobster. Tail. Diaper. Baby. Wow. Up. Opportunity. Ooh, he's great at flipping the negative. into a positive. He's really good at it. Captain Glass half full over here. Lil. Baby. Only fans. Application. Very neutral. Bitcoin. Investment. Podcast. One more time. One more time. That's right.

Lotus. Roserade. Let's go. Anwar. We appreciate you coming on the one more time podcast. As always, if you like this interview, please like, comment, and subscribe. Henry's heard enough. Anwar, we appreciate you coming on. Until next week, Henry, what are we doing? We're getting out of here. We're getting the fuck out of here. Peace. Appreciate you guys. Yes, sir.