E Chapo Interview: Tripping Psychedelics & Ego Death | Skinny Girl Comeback -

When you realize that you're competing with people, you tend to try to beat them at what they're doing, but you don't understand that the thing they're doing works for them. Doesn't work for you. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host Playback Ben here. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host, Playback Ben here with my co-host. H3 aka The Trap Jack Black. Trap Jack Black. Who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? Hey, Trap Boy aka the Bag lady y'all know what's going on. Took my intro. Oh I was gonna intro you. Oh, he was gonna do a much better job than that. Fuck, let's run back. One more time. Henry, who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? Welcoming in on episode 75 of the One More Time Podcast, Rising Artist out of New Jersey.

It's Coi Leray. Oh, you goddamn motherfucker. No, no. We got E. Chapo, the hottest rapper in Atlanta right now. it feels like. Shout out to Coi Leray, too. She's doing her thing. She bought us um skinny girls back in. Yes. Really? I mean, were you guys out? Like. Yeah, yeah. No, we were kind of going out of style, but then I got a different kind of BBL. I got a baby booty lift. Okay, okay. I like that. Brought us back in. I like that. Shout out Coi Leray. Have you ever considered getting a BBL? Where would I get it from? I don't know too much about the procedures. Me neither. I actually like that. Get it from Henry. They were like, Hey, can I borrow you for a BBL? I got plenty of LBs to loan you. Yo, so you're fresh off of the one music fest performance. You got brought out by Blue. Yes. Young Blue. Young Blue. How did that even happen? Like, how do you know Blue?

Why did he decide to share the stage with you for a song? Like what how did that how did that come about? So uh one of my managers, um, Jerry Clark, shout out Jerry Clark. Um he had introduced me to um uh uh blue when I just did a publishing deal with human resources. So that really hasn't been released yet, but hey, When we got an exclusive. This early in the episode, Henry, that could be the like earliest in the episode that someone has given us an exclusive. Let's see how many more we get. Shout out to Chapo. That's real exclusive. It will it will be broken now, but it will be broken a little bit more um as I begin to release my new music and the tape that's going on. But um, I saw Blue out in uh uh Cali. I went out there in Cali and chopped it up with his team and things like that. And then um, they said they were gonna bring me out and just test run and see how it went. And then um actually when I got on stage, it was all wrong. But like what do you mean no?

Like the music, just everything was wrong. It was just all going bad. Blue spinner had broke down and a lot of things had went on, but I was like, the show must go on. No one, you know, no one should ever know. When the lights cut on, I'm on. So, you know, we all made it work. Um, shout out Blue, thank you so much for the opportunity. Um, but yeah, it was we rocked out and we just kept it going, you know, it's business. That's right. I just always wondered when someone does get the opportunity to like come out and rock out for a song. I always wondered how that happened, you know. You know, like when someone brings someone out, like I didn't know how that, you know, played out. It's different reasons. It'd be right relationships, um, you know, with DJs or management, or some people, you know, I've been in the game for a long time. So a lot of the times, like sometimes it'd be relationships and people that I've known since we were younger and you know, prevailed. Um, as a woman artist, uh female artist, it just took me a little longer to get to this point because I wasn't selling sex when I first started.

It wasn't the Cardi B. Cardi B wasn't even out when I started doing music. And then even when she came, it was still that, you know, stripper mentality, which, you know, no shade to that because I live in Atlanta where that it that is that thrives here. It's the strip club capital of the world. That's nothing, you know. Like girls are stripper, it's like, okay, hey, well, what else you do? Like, so like um, it was just, you know, like it was hard, it was a little bit harder for me, and it took a little longer. And um, and especially to see someone, uh, especially like a female that holds our own, and I don't have a guy behind my movement. I am my movement along with my team. So it was it was exciting, and it just took a little longer, but I'm here now and I'm here to stay. That's right. Being in the game for a while, right? Like, it feels like you're clearly catching a wave right now. Do you feel that?

Like can you, can you like channel that right now? Like, do you do you feel the momentum? It feels out of body. I mean, it's always deeper than rap. I just appreciate it. I'm blessed. Um, I'm tuning in to my fans, and just it's so much more to even. I'm I'm I'm just blessed that this is even going like this, and I know that it's so much more in store, like it's so much more music. I haven't even dropped the tape. I dropped one song this year. Well, that song's doing very well. Yeah, like and it's so much more people are gonna hear different like kind of genres of me. Um I never really reached into those yet. And it's it's I love to have fun at the end of the day. Like my music, when I started music, I always wanted to have fun. I was in college. Like I went to a lot of different colleges, and that was my main thing. I've always been a hustler. Um, and then you know, people always get that misconstrued. Hustler doesn't always have to be about drugs or anything like that.

We live in Atlanta where it's an entrepreneur. You guys grew up here, so you guys know, like anything's a hustle here. That's just the culture of Atlanta. So um just being around that and just, you know what I'm saying? Getting just working the city and um I'm I'm I'm a part, so it's it's it's three type of worlds in um Atlanta when it comes to music. Okay. So you have the Black Hollywood, which is the industry, you know what I'm saying? The industry. Then you have the uh the creative world. That's that's where I lie, you know what I'm saying? And then you have more so the the rock star punk kind of What is that? A masquerade. Hell, you know, the heaven hell. Heaven, hell, purgatory. Yeah, so you got a lot of different um places to go in Atlanta and uh uh thrive more so in the creative culture, the fashion, the things like that. So uh, you know, it takes a little bit longer for people to catch on to that type of culture because everyone doesn't necessarily have the money and things like that, but as far as like the creativity and where things originate from and the authentic authentic how can I say that authenticity?

There you go. See, That's the one. you look like you read books, bro. So that came from- I read one or two in my life. Yeah, that came from that comes from, you know, the Atlanta culture, you know. So I'm happy to touch bases and just at least show that part because you know, right now you had Florida pop on, you had Memphis pop on, and it's time to bring back where they all got it from. That's right. Amen. Amen. So you are the bag lady. Yes. Where'd that nickname come from? I was saying, that's not a nickname. It's a fact. Okay. Where did that come from? Next question. Next question. What's your relationship like with money? Um, you know, we have our ups and downs, of course, everyone does, but at the end of the day, we always end up on top. We have a real You always seem to be having it.

Uh, I mean, I always figure out a way. And that's uh another piece of my music. Um, I'm just, you know, my music just talks about really just being not just in the like, so it's kind of like a weird space for my music right now because you have the the Megan Thee Stallions and the and there, and it's more so like, oh yeah, independent boss bitch, but like what did you do to get there? Like, how did you get there? And my method, I and I don't want to put things on a lot of people, but I know as a female in this industry, um, you know, a lot of people you you have they want you to sacrifice your body. Let's just be real. And that's another reason why it took me a little bit longer. Um, I was just willing to take initiative to spend each Habo's own bread and take each Habo's time and do it right. Um, you know, I'm really strong on oven money and not microwave money.

Oh, you know, that's a good one. You, you would you rather have that meal out the oven or that meal at the microwave? It takes longer, but it tastes way better. Yeah. So yeah, I just been real like focus on that and just staying true to myself, evolving, shifting my ego from each Habo. Um, how I even got that name. So, you know, I just I'd like to hear that story. Um I mean, yeah. We're not gonna get it. She's she's really holding back on us right now. We got one exclusive in the beginning. We got one exclusive and then she just was closed off. Nah, man, that was exclusive. baby. Okay, so I wanted to ask you this. So you've said the word female a few times. We used the word female to talk about like, you know, this is ladies' month, and we had said like, what's the status of you know, females in hip hop? And we had the entertainment lawyer, her name's Bernie Gets You Paid. She works with Lotto, 21 Savage, Jetsonmade.

That's my lawyer. That's Bernie's your lawyer? There you go. Okay, so you're familiar with Miss Get You Paid. Um, she had a very she had an issue with female. So yeah, the word female is kind of controversial. Are you open to female versus woman versus lady? Like, how do you, you know what I mean? I mean, so I come from a basketball background? So a lot of my skin is more tougher than the average human being. I'm never gonna go male or female, like, cause some of these niggas act like bitches and bitches act like niggas is all getting confusing. I don't even know. But It's 2022. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it, it's she said it was too too scientific. It is too scientific. And um, I just feel like as we get older, as I get older and I learn um from our relationships and things like that, like man needs female, man just needs female. And now that we're entering into the game, I don't want to know disrespect to you guys, but man is dumb.

Man is not- No offense taken. It's like you're missing, you know, it started off XX and then y'all went XY. And then it's like, oh, that's the difference. Like XY. Like, you know. So the Y fucked us up. Yeah, definitely. Fuck it up. You know, but you know, that's why you need us here. And it's like, um, I think in uh women entering into the game will uh overall um make it more structured, um, make it more um loyalty in the game, um, and hold people responsible for their actions. And I think it might make the game a little bit more safer, you know what I'm saying? But um a woman in charge is definitely more deadly than a man. That's a bar. That's a bar. That's a bar. That's a bar. That's a bar. So she's spitting. Okay, so you you kind of hinted at this, right? But like I I really wanted to talk about this. Like, how do you think that looks play into the success of female artists?

Like, how important is the look, right? Like what you look like, how good looking you are. Like, how much do you think that plays into the success of unfortunately, you know, female artists, right? I think that that was that back in time. Okay. But now you money can make anybody look any type of way. I always look like, even if you just look at my outfit, bro. Like, I just put this shit on. This is what I feel like. This is my I'm gonna say something. This is my outfit I like to work in. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't really, you know, I'm just I'm kind of tomboyish. I don't really necessarily, but I'm an athlete, so I'm used to getting out of practice and just putting it on. Um, but then you got like GloRilla. She wasn't um when she came and popped, she wasn't the best looking girl. The video that She's like the best example though. Yeah, no, she is, but where it's all about more the music, and she's clearly good looking enough for people to not talk about how ugly she is, but she didn't come out like succeeding because of her looks, right? But then you look at uh an overwhelming majority of female artists, and sad to say, like But what is it that look like are when you're saying look, are you necessarily saying face?

Are you saying body? Are you saying overall? Overall attractiveness, I I think just overall, like hot people have life easier, period. No matter what. There's so many ugly rappers though that are guys that are successful, sure. But what is a hot. Jay-Z's not good looking, it was harder then. Is all I'm saying. But what is a hot girl? Because if I take 10K and go blow my ass up in my in my titties up. with Henry's uh skin and put some makeup on, okay, am I bad? You might get more streams. I'm not saying that that, you know, personally that the but will you though? See, that's see, boom. Let's go to why it's taking me a little bit longer to even get to where I want to be. Let's do it. I don't do that stream shit. I got friends that stream, no disrespect, and they're streaming artists. You go to their show, it's three people. Yeah. That's a cold hard truth. That's a good one. You go to sell a t-shirt, they can't. Yeah.

And it's like at the end of the day, someone new goes viral every day. So your streams die every day. So the culture and what I'm trying to build as my brand is a solid fan base that has a path, or I can help create a mindset to be bigger than what they are. Because when I first came into the game, it wasn't none of them. It was only Nicki Minaj. And when I was talking about what I was talking about, which was what you need, no one believed it, no one wanted to go with it. And I was don't play on my equipment no more. I was told don't play on my equipment no more. You you suck. I was told by a lot of people. But I just was like, y'all don't really faze me. I got booed when I ran out to play basketball by 5,000 other people. So it didn't, it just kept me going. And then now the culture is switching into a process where now it's acceptable and now they want that. So it's it's it's give and take.

You know what I'm saying? It's just it's when it comes to looks, um, I just really think if the music's there and the fan base there, it really doesn't matter what you look like. It really doesn't matter what you sound like. Um, people just want somebody they can relate to. Yeah, that's major right there for sure. If you can relate to that person, it doesn't matter if they even got a million streams, they got 10 streams. If you like it and they're talking about what you're going through that day or what you did, then you're gonna listen to it. If they're a good storyteller, yeah, yeah. It's interesting because the the discussion I heard was also about like who listens to female rappers for the most part. Other women is that is that true or not? No, that's not true. You don't think it's true? When I look at what are your demographics looking like? Men, really, men. It's interesting. Uh, I think it's like 70% men, 30% women. Wow.

Wow. There you go. Because I'm not gonna lie, I would assume just by looking at who's at their shows, who's in their comments, who's whatever, the vast majority of the fan base of the top, you know, women rappers is other women. It's a little bit hard. Um, because the women that I do have are not necessarily fans, they love me. Like, when the fuck? Whoa. So it's not they're sliding in the DMs. So you're just gonna you're gonna do that. Yeah, you're gonna do that shit? Probably, yeah. Okay. And it's and it's like that. Give us some examples of this, please. Um crazy DM story or something like that. Oh man, what man, I deal with that shit every day. I wake up and deal with that shit. Just titties, nah, no type shit. I ain't gonna go down. You know, you know if you know, you knew you know, you know who you are, you know who you are. But You're crazy bitches. I just, it's really sad because the women that I'm actually trying to talk to, their men

find me attractive because I am an independent woman that don't need them. I'm an asset to them and not a setback. So a lot of the women that I can reach out to them feel like I'm a threat instead of taking the lessons or what I'm trying to show them to become independent. And when I say independent, that means like you, you you make decisions too along with your man. It's not just you, your man makes the decision and you gotta ride along because he's the one with the bag and the check and the nah. Like I'm teaching you how to be with someone and be compatible and bring something to the table. So if they do walk away or do feel like they want to do something else, they know that they're actually losing a piece, a piece of the puzzle, a piece of the empire.

This is we built this empire together. I didn't jump on and become your butler. Like, we built this together. And um, you see females like that, but a lot of them don't rap. You know, a lot of them just stay there and like Gucci Man's wife. Uh I forget her name. I do like Keisha. Keisha. He held it down and became a boss. Man, so he can't- Shout out Keisha for all that. That's wild. He can't leave. Even if he wants to leave, he can go mess with a million girls, but you're never gonna find a boss bitch that just like you can go if you want to, because I'm gonna be okay with or without you. But you can stay too. She was stacking up, making plays the whole time he was locked up. The whole time. Yep. And that's that's me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I it's it's like that's what my music is for. It's like shawty, stack up, like show these men out here that, and you can do it in respect for me. I mean, I don't know your personality and your ego, because that's what we're all faced with at the end of the day.

That's that's determines whether you level up or stay where you're at. It's when you become so let me get a little get hydrated for this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's about to be a bar. Sure. So the cycle of life, okay. Oh god. Wait, that's how it starts. let me prepare for that. Okay. Buckle up. Go ahead. So everyone in life, at some point, you feel like you're going through the same cycle, right? You always feel like, oh, I'm on top, I'm on top, I'm on top. And then it's like, damn, I'm on the bottom. But I know how to get to the top, so then you feel like you're doing like this. What people don't understand when they get like this, their ego gets tested. Your ego is your superpower. Once you can control your ego, you can control your destiny. Because your ego is always gonna get tested. And your ego is the easiest way, the most comfortable way, the most vulnerable way that you're gonna respond to any situation. And it's like once you're able to channel that and learn how to deal with that, which I'm doing currently, um, that's when you'll start to see things different. I didn't change my music, I didn't change who I was, I didn't put on more.

I don't even have makeup on here sitting with y'all. You know what I'm saying? I don't do all that. I just change the way I handle certain situations that come up because us as female, we're constantly trying. We're constantly played with, toy with, taking advantage of. And as a as a female, we are used to thinking and reacting with our emotions. And not even as a female men. Men. Like I said before, niggas act like bitches, bitches act like niggas, it's all getting suspicious. So it's like once we once we channel our uh egos and learn how to get past that and and first acknowledge it, acknowledge when it's happening and change that about yourself. That's when it doesn't matter whether you are a male or you're a female, you'll see yourself progressing and and break past that cycle that you're in because you're gonna go to another one. It's like either you're gonna stay in this realm or you're gonna go to another realm and then go to that another realm, but each time your ego's gonna be tested in different ways.

Have you done psychedelics? Of course. That's a very like, there's a you know, the concept of ego death. I did that. I had a ego death in Hawaii in the water. Ooh. That's great. For those that aren't familiar with what that means or feels like, can either one of you guys elaborate on what that means? To my understanding, you know, it's it's kind of like understanding this dude's acting like he's never had it. No, I mean, I mean, to to my knowledge, from my experience. Yeah, it's the concept of like um, you know, just really realizing that you're just like, you know, a group of molecules on a giant floating rock in space, and like it's nothing is as important as you make it seem, and and just killing your ego and getting out of the stuff that can be holding you back, right? Is that kind of how you understand it? Well, what happened to me? Yeah, let's hear a chopper. I want to hear the real thing. What happened to me was I was in the water in Hawaii. Ain't gonna say what psychedelic goes on, but I was there.

DMT. No, I did DMT. Oh, it's straight up? Fuck it. Here we go. Yes. I did mushrooms, acid, DMT. I didn't did them all. So I was like all of them at the same time in Hawaii. Nah, but I overabused it. You know you're supposed to take a break. I did. So she like lost her marbles for like a solid period of time. The world's about to end. Fuck it. I mean, I ain't gonna do crack. This was a this was a COVID thing. Yeah, like I'm not gonna do crack cocaine, but pandemic hit. She was like, who's got the fucking psychedelics? I'm watching, I mean, I was watching everybody, you know, but I was just like, okay, okay. So I went to Hawaii and I got in the water, and you know how like people would die and they're like running through these fields of like grass and it's like this thing. No, I get in like in the movies when they're running through the No, I'm in the water. So I get in the water and I'm like in the water, and the water's like up to here. Now I know how to swim too.

So the water's up to here, and I'm like, oh shit, I didn't turn into fucking water. I'm goddamn water. And I'm like looking up, looking up, and people are like surfing. I'm in Hawaii now, Honolulu. People are surfing, the sun's like perfect, and then it starts snapping shots. I couldn't hear nobody else on the beach. And I'm like, oh shit, did I just die? And I'm like, wait, I know how to swim. This shit sucks. But then in that moment, I was like, I don't have money. I don't have no one else. I just have time. How long do I stay in this dimension? And then when I came back, because I'm always each chapo money, money, money, money, money, money, money, the money. I was like, oh, I know something more valuable than money, and it ain't diamonds. It's time. Time. is the only thing you can't get back. that's the only thing you can't. You can spend money.

You can spend everything. The time. The time is one more time. You can't get back. One more time. It's like we planned this. No, that's that is true. But like, how do you balance that mentality with clearly the pure hustler get to the money, get to the bag? You know what I mean? Because it's it's interesting that you've had that experience and you clearly have that like, you know, grounded like mindset with part of you, but then you do have this other part of you that's like trying to level up and get that shit. You know what I mean? It helped me focused on, and sometimes I do lose the focus on it, but um, it helped me focus on um how much I actually spend time on a certain situation or problem that deals with money because that's the only thing I really like actually give my time to. Um, which is kind of like, damn, but uh that's it's kind of like what everyone gives the majority of their waking hours to, though.

Yeah. If you really think about it, I was in a relationship at one point. So I was trying to give my time to relationship. That didn't work. It was just, I mean, so you're single right now? Yeah, oh, for sure. All right, the DMs are open, folks. Oh, yeah, they've been open, but don't DM. But those crazy people. I don't know who else is gonna see the DM. I don't know what's going on. That's why when I managed. And don't DM because it is going wild. Do not DM me, okay? DM E Chapo right now if you're watching this. Gas her up. I wanted no access to my artist's DMs when I've worked with artists. I was like, they're like, yeah, you want my Instagram vibe? I was like, fuck no, really. I just be like, bro, don't open the primary. Just stay in the generals. Stay in the gen. I mean, but if you open a primary, you knew. I told that motherfucker, don't send it to the um That's my other phone. I mean, don't don't send it to that. Don't DM me. Like, just show up in person. I know what's going on.

I don't even like messages. Don't message me, no weird shit. Pick up the phone, FaceTime you, and that's how we're going. Can they FaceTime you some weird shit? Or like how's that work? Yeah, that's cool. We're gonna put your number up on the screen here for everybody. Henry, stop offering up my edits. So you you know, we talked about like where you spent your time. I mean, you spent probably countless thousands of hours playing basketball. Yes. I mean, you're a hooper. Hooper. Yeah. I did my research. I was like, you know, you were talking about it. I was like, yo, I gotta, I gotta figure out like who this girl was. And like let the record show that she was actually as legit as she's talked about in other interviews. I did my fucking homework. Like, top guard in the state. I mean, like you played the one? Yeah. Yeah. One or two. Depends on who was on the court. I wasn't selfish. Okay. Yeah. Whatever needed to get done, I was down for it. So who are your like top point guards though of all time? You know, like who do you look at of like, damn?

As far as just like other players you've looked at, like NBA or whoever, WNBA, whatever. Um, it's kind of difficult because all those are my friends now, so I really don't want to be like, ah. But um Shout them out. Um, shout out to first. Let's go with my teammates that are in WNBA and overseas. Um uh Diamond DeShields, Dearica Hamby, Dominique Wilson, Brittany Hodges, uh so many um Patches, Lexi Brown. Uh I grew up in an era where basketball was my teammates could touch the rim. So like when I watch basketball now, because I I referee still for some of the high school and Atlanta public schools. So basketball was definitely different then at that time. Um I started off, we were just playing regular league, and then Nike came and saw how good we were, and we went there with it. Um but yeah, all my teammates are pretty much still playing or so you're the only one that went into music?

Yeah, I'm the only one. I was doing music though back then. Yeah, yeah. So um I was faced with a decision to choose which one was which, but I like gotten milk posters in the in the cafeteria. So I'm not about to give that shit up. Like so I was, you know, we always freestyled on a bus. I was always into music. Uh always still did music at that time, but I didn't take it seriously until I uh transferred to Georgia State. Yeah. Shout out to the Panthers, baby. Yeah, yeah. So we had another Panther in the back over here. Yeah. Yeah. So we had another like, you know, dude who went and played like semi pro type of ball on the podcast. He's like 6'8. He's like probably our tallest guest. Easily well, his name's Clip Monstar is like his rap name. But um Yeah, I don't know his real name. I mean, he probably does. I don't know. I probably know. Yeah, okay. But anyway, Joshua Beal or something? I don't want to go there. Let's just stop Let's not put his because I don't know. Put his whole shit up. Okay. I'll probably edit that out. But anyway. No, no, no. It's cool. His name. I mean, I go by it.

My real name's Eric Norway. Google it. I mean, you're gonna find it. I did Google it. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, you're gonna find it. I'm I don't hide. I can't hide. But but so he talked about so like he was also rapping while like basketball was still a huge part of his life, right? Like starting to rap. He had like corny ass, like basketball bars. Did you have like your like No, no. I like the way they dribble up and down the court. did you have those bars? Oh no, no, no. We we did. Oh my gosh. Me and my teammates were just funny as hell. All of us did music. I was the only one that kind of took it seriously. Cause when I was in high school, that's when jerk music became popular. Jerk. So we were really on the jerk music, and then that's when wildin' out came out. Yes. So you got at the family reunion, who we introduce, and then we just start rapping. So we would rap for hours on the bus, locker room before the game. Coach would be mad as hell. Like we didn't even care. We were just, and then um Was there like roasting?

You guys get doing the battling and whatnot. Man, we in Atlanta. Got to roast. Man, we in Atlanta. If you can't roast, you not finna make it even like Period. you're not making it, period. Like did that help you kind of like ease the nerves for like you know, before games at all or something, you know what I mean? Like just kind of like messing around. No, that was just my personality. That was just my okay. You never got nervous before like big games. Every game, like they used to boo me as soon as I ran out the tunnel. Yeah. they were I was that person where they're bouncing. when I'm bouncing the ball on warmers, they're like bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. Oh, fuck those people. How was that? Fuck them. That's like some Duke fucking blue devils bullshit. Funny to me. Like, I used to get booed so much. I was the person that got a booed, and as I got booed, when I hit the three, I ran down the court, like staring at them and shit. Yeah, I did the extra, you know what I'm saying? So I can imagine. When now going into the music is like, oh, you don't like it? So, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't care.

Like, I got booed by thousands. And I also got cheered by thousands. So I just understand the process. Some people are gonna like it, some people aren't. But yeah, I feel like that's an interesting part of like, you know, you mentioned the ego thing, right? Like to go from like getting cheered by the thousands, right? Yeah. To then just like you're fucking public enemy number one. You know, that has to like fuck with that. That would literally happen from time out to time out. Yeah, every night. And when I played basketball, it was way different than what it was now. Um my game, like the women's games were just as important as the guy games when I played, like they were sold out. Like by the time I came out for warm out, warm out with the cheerleaders and everything, the gym was packed. That's awesome. Because like you go to a lot of women's basketball games, and it is fucking ghost town until the guys' game. Like, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, no, no, That's how it was. that's how it was. But we played like guys, though. Like we didn't.

Yeah, you said you could all like touch the rim and shit. Yeah, you know, dunking and shit. We could touch the rim. My teammates could dunk. Like, it was way different. Like, I was like, it was no plays being ran. It's like, hey, screw you. you know, like you gotta fight every other week. Just calling her number. She's just like. Every night was championship ball, like anytime the lights turn on, it was championship, everyone's coming from her throat. Um, especially the high school I went to, um, when we got to high school, it was five freshmen that started varsity. Wow. So just imagine So your class was insane. Yeah, like it was just it was fucking insane by the time they were seniors. Oh, yeah, Just out of here. But then when I went to play with Nike, they took all of a Cobb County girl, so they took all the number one players out of Cobb County and put us all on one team for Nike. Wow. So then Was that like AAU ball or what? Yeah, so then when we got to high school, it was like, oh like, I'm about to really bust your ass. Yeah.

Because if I don't, then I gotta deal with you all summer. Holy shit. So it was always just every night it was just championship balls. So yeah, like I miss those times. Yeah, that was dope. For sure. But like, how do you think that you approach music versus how you were approaching ball? Like, are there some similarities between like how you how you like approach them and like look at them? Yes. And it's it's it's different. Um I feel like a lot of times where I kind of fell short as far as uh basketball is I always was looking left and right and trying to compete with the next person. Even though I was number one, I still never looked at it. I was still trying to like compete with everybody. And I and I felt like now that I'm in the music business, it's the same thing, and I had to catch myself at the beginning of um pandemic. I read this book. I can't remember the author was, but it was um the number one bestseller in New York Times, and it was called How to Unfuck Yourself. Yeah, it sounds awesome.

I I've read it. Or I've read the the sh like short version of the what's the app that Cliff Notes? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and it just talks about living in a circle. And then I also read the um Science to Getting Rich. And um, it just talked about how like not to compete and look side by side because the things that you're competing against, when you realize that you're competing with people, you tend to try to beat them at what they're doing, but you don't understand that the thing they're doing works for them. Doesn't work for you. So, you know, like your body's built different. Your voice is built different. Your presence, your personality, a lot of those things are always built different. So when you're trying to compete with someone, you're trying to do what they're doing, and it's not gonna work for you because that's them. So just keeping a straight, you know. We've had the analogy of the horses keeping the blinders. I'm not even fucking kidding. That's come up on the podcast a lot. and I just shared this to my Instagram story. I swear to God, and I have it in this note.

Jimmy Iovine, you know, Interscope beats by Dre, fucking Eminem, like all that, you know, that whole era, like that was him. He has this quote about like, you know, fuck like looking left and right. It's basically like there's a reason why a horse has blinders on when he's running the race. Yeah. Because you if you look left, or right. You're tripping. You know what I mean? You tripping for sure. Yeah, for sure. But like, how hard is it to not? We live in a fucking social media frenzy where it's like left and right is now everywhere, up down, in your fucking face of what your competition is doing. There you go, right there. First of all, social media. That's why I let my team deal with it. I check my primaries, like I said, and try to still just check the weird, the weird primary. I try to stay in contact with that, but I I pretty much stay so much off in social media because social media is one of the biggest, like, things where people get caught up on people who have these fake realistic lives and things like that. And I'm really out here.

So like I get to see that yo, with like with the things you're trying to live up to from these people that you're watching, they're not even living that. Actually, the person that is that they're portraying to be doesn't even have it social media. So um, you know, if I wasn't who I was, I I wouldn't have social media, you know what I'm saying? You can't deny it as a tool though for promotion and marketing. For sure. Like I said, if I wasn't who I was, yeah, but um at the same time, like I just try to stay off of there because that's just uh that's a big negative influence. Um and then the things that are positive, you know, you don't start watching them to a certain age, but like I got little siblings and cousins and things like that, and I just like dude, that's not real. So, like one of my biggest things, even as Ijapo, is just to impact the youth and just teach them what's right and wrong, and just try to like not even show teach them what's right and wrong, like show them, let them experience the wrong, and then to break down, break down the wrong so that they see what's right, not just hey, that shit was wrong, this is right. Now, what you do was wrong?

Go ahead. Let me see if you even know. You know, let's see, let's see if you can even, because if you can't even tell me what's wrong, then how I'm gonna tell you what's right. No, it's true. So I just that's that's one of the biggest things that like you know, I want to change and where I want to go with my music. Yeah, there's something about like I think the quote is about you know, there's a problem if you're consuming more than you're creating, right? So if you know, and I talked to you about this, it's like if we're just like scrolling and scrolling and consuming content, consuming, consuming, consuming, and we're not creating our own shit more than we're consuming, like that's a big problem, you know. You know? Yeah, and so I feel like there is some degree of like, you know, I I don't know, I I just struggle with the whole thing of like the blinders, right? Because it's like you do need to know what's going on to a certain degree, or maybe not. I don't know what y'all's perspective is. I I feel like you do to understand like what's working, right?

I think there's good content. I think there is good content. Like there's there's content that can be, you know, because like your brain, what you're gonna be thinking about all day is basically just a result of all the shit you're watching. If you're watching like motivational, good, you know, positive stuff, you'll probably feel more positive. But if you're yeah, if you're watching, you know, stuff that has all these negative connotations, then that's the life you're gonna live as well. I don't I don't think it's actually, I mean, I feel like that whole thing from you guys is like necessary in general because that's just the world that we live in now. I think when kids actually do um, or not even kids, just people in general, when they actually do see things that they want to do or that they want to be, it's the action to actually do it. So, like, oh, I want to be like her, Kim Kardashian, but like what are you actually doing to be like her? Like, do you want to look like her?

Do you want to have your money like her? Do you want to date who she's dating? Like, break down really what you actually want. And that's when I get around the kids and they be like, I want to be like NBA Young boy. Well, what part? What part? What like, let me hear. YB is better. Why be better? Why be better? Yeah, it's like what part do you want to be? Do you did you want to be a killer? Did you want to base? Did you want to be as rich as him? Because he didn't kill people to get as rich as he did. Like, we like what do you and that's the um that's you know, I'm not I got a degree. And she's like, shout me out. Nah, it's not that. It's not even that because it's like I feel like you got kicked out of like 10 schools. yeah, for sure. I got kept getting kicked out, but I always come back. Just believe that. Hey, if you always think I'm gone, I'm always coming the fuck back. Always remember that.

She's on your necks. Yeah, I'm always coming back. I never, I never man, look. One thing I could say, man, female woman, um, no one can ever put you in a place um that you don't want to be in. If you feel like you're stuck in a place that's because you wanted to be there. Um but uh bar. Bar. I just feel like, you know, at the end of the day, it's all about action. Um, you know, you think about things throughout the day. For instance, y'all thought about this podcast. I'm pretty sure you thought about this podcast way before you actually did it. But then you did. And that's that's the thing that people are missing in life. And that the fact that um you guys did it. You know what I'm saying? People always try to think that the next man, no, when you die, the world continues, whether you like it or not. That's just the way this goes, you know, and especially with the pandemic, we saw a lot of that. Like death is almost normalized now.

It's like, hey, he died. I'll go to the funeral, and then the next day you're like, all right, what we doing? Because you see it so much. It's so true. We're desensitized at this point. We're very desensitized. Yeah, but what I think is crazy about what she said about, you know, you know, just even us starting the podcast, for example, and like you starting to do music, for example, whatever, is that people get so wrapped up in like, oh, like I need to research more and like I need to think about it more and think about it, think about it. And like you just fucking don't do it. It's like start messy is the whole like quote, right? Paralysis by analysis. Bro, how I didn't even know how to work final cut. Straight the fuck up. I had no idea how to edit a podcast. We literally got our first guest. Thankfully, it was a homie. We were like, yo, can we like interview you? And we fucked the entire thing up. It didn't record. We literally fucked up the recording. We had to do the whole fucking thing over. Again. Shit you not. But we would have never. oh shit, guys. I forgot to hit record. God damn it, Henry. Henry. Oh my god. The crowd is like, please say that's a joke.

Oh yeah, but you know what I mean? Like that it is true about like the action. I mean, we I talk about this at like nauseam borderline to Henry of like, dude, like we gotta stop fucking talking about shit and like we gotta do. Do it. Like, even if it's not perfect, like it's not gonna be perfect. Everyone's scared of fucking up. that's so true. Or looking or they care what other people think too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is that the blinders thing? Is that the competition thing? Yeah, might be. Yeah, partially. I might not did better than that other person, and yeah, and then they don't even know that the other person I'm really even paying attention to their ass. But I just Right. It's. and everyone has their own journey too. Of like, like, you know, I I think there's like a meme about like the path of success, right? And like it's what people think it is, it's like the straight line, but then it's like yeah, like you know what I mean? It's like this crazy fucked up, like you know, twists and turns. I look at Evan with a dope beat, this little He's like a he's like 13 years old. 12 year old

white kid makes the hardest beats I've ever fucking heard. I started making beats when I was 21, I'm 30, and he's like crushing it at 12. I'm like, damn, but it's like, yeah, I have my own journey. Ethan? Evan with a dope beat. Reach out to him. Yeah. So what you need, we were talking about it, like it's going crazy right now. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, in the clubs, like in the streets, like at the shows, whatever, right? Like, what do you think it is about this record? Is it something that we don't see that's behind the scenes, like marketing shit or something that's making it, you know, go, or is it just you think that it's a special record? Was there some crazy rollout strategy? You know what I mean? It's everything. It's um my team, um, how the record was brought about. Uh which is how? I recorded in like five minutes. The engineer was like, My engineer shot my engineer Trey mix, um mix by Trey. shout out to the engineers. He was like, yo, we got 10 minutes.

He'd be on my ass. He was like, yo, we got 10 minutes. He looked at me like I don't want to press shit for real. I was like, all right, hey, look, fuck it. I ain't really make no good songs today. I had I was sipping on some drink and he was mad. But I was like, I don't give a fuck. Press play. Two cups on me right now, and they dirty. I just talk about what I did earlier that day. My mom's calling me while I record all like, throw them off the top, click their ass off and kept going. Yo, like this literally got made in like 10 minutes. I'm not playing. It was like on one take, like maybe we clipped in a couple of bars in there, but like it we literally did that song in like 10 minutes, and then um my management, um, we were s like how the layout was supposed to be this year was we were supposed to be dropping every month, every month. Cause I got a lot in store for you guys, and I'm really excited about it. Like, she was showing us some unreleased shit, and I'm telling you. That's not even it.

Brace yourselves, folks. Oh my gosh, Brace yourselves. I got some shit. You're gonna be like, this is you. Like, oh wow. Because Like, can we hear some stuff on the speakers after this? Oh yeah, for sure. Yes. But like I said, I grew up in a I mean I I went to experience my music in the um creative world. So like I'm with a rock star. We're hippies. Like I'm like uh a trap, taking psychedelics in the ocean in Hawaii. They I'm a happy trap. So like it's trappy. Yeah, like it's like everyone around me is on strong. We're on different clouds, we're like elevated on a whole different thing. So like um, you know, I'm excited. I'm excited for um the work that's about to be put out. Um Were you saying were you about to say that the reason you haven't put out a lot of this music is because that record has legs and started picking up. Yeah, yeah. So you put more energy into a record. So this is like maybe a gem for people listening. If you do get a record that starts moving, it can be okay to like maybe put pause on some other stuff you had planned and add fuel to the fire. It wasn't necessarily that I had put pause on it because I wanted to keep going, but um I started to invest in myself.

I had uh I sat there at one point because I was like going through relationship problems and I just felt like fuck this shit. And that's you know, the difference ain't between who's good, who's sorry. It's the consistency on what you keep going, because everyone's gonna reach a d a bottom. I don't care who you are, you're gonna reach a bottom. And um, I was just like, um, I had talked I was working with um Meshack and JY. Shout out my management. And um they were just like, hey, we're gonna drop a song every month. We didn't know what you need was gonna do or what it did. I like to shoot my own videos and like my creative uh aspects and stuff like that. So I had prepared it all up, and we had Lingwood off the blog, off the porch. I mean, for um from the blog, off the porch, a couple of people around. One more time, yeah. One more time podcast for sure. For sure.

Mostly that one. Everyone that's in the city that's like I love to work with everyone who's coming up because I'm coming up. Like I I understand the process and the work and the time it takes and the actual like, you know, city don't love you until everybody else do. I mean, let's just be real, and we're from here. So true. So um I just kept my head down, and as the records started going, it kind of pushed all our records back. And um now we're at the end of the year. Um I'll be releasing uh bags on bags, which is drops October 28th. So make sure you guys go check that out. That's on all platforms. Hell stream bags on bags. Yeah, go stream bags on bags, so you guys will see a little rollout from there. Okay, and then at the top of the year, you guys will be seeing the release that bag lady. And now I'll be um So that's what we're working towards is the project called Bag Lady. Yeah, the project's done.

But um, we're still just buttoning up like visuals and yeah, and still, you know, working on a couple of records that um just showing multiple sides of me. And yeah, I'm I'm excited and I'm like happy that everyone's gonna get to see it. Um, I think it's gonna be a great project. And I got a lot I want to show you guys next year. So absolutely. So, you know, you opened up for nudie, I feel like for some dates on his tour, right? And then obviously you had the show where you got brought out at one music fest, you know, with with young blue. Like there's something to be said for you're an artist that gets brought on. Arguably the majority of the people have no idea who the fuck you are, right? Nobody knows who the city is. No one knows. No one knows who the fuck I am. Yeah, no clue, right? No clue. How hard is it to pump yourself up enough to step on the stage and like command that crowd? I've always like been fascinated by that. I've been doing it for years.

Like, uh it just gives me the nerves of like, oh my god, like no one knows. This is why you're not a rapper, Ben. I know, thank God. Throughout my career, I have a small podcast studio audience I can handle, but I work with the playlist party and a playlist party. Um Jay Wise runs a playlist party, and it's a program where he develops artists in the city and chooses um people that have a developed and special sound. So he kind of developed, you know, just over the years, and I just have fun with it. Like my music is fun. It's it's real, it's fun. I'm not portraying to be anyone that I'm not. I'm literally when they cut the music going, I'm having fun. I'm having fun with the crowd. Um, the young nudie tour, I was a little bit nervous about that because I had to make it to city to city. And um what do you mean by that? Like, it was it like an audition, like if you fucked up in one city, they're like, Yeah, for sure. Oh, wow. And they started me off in the hardest city, which is Atlanta. Oh shit. Oh, one of the hardest markets are you know, Atlanta.

Uh Alabama's okay, New York. So, how many dates did you make it through? Uh I made it through the rest of the tour. So, how many was that though? It was like 12 or 13 days. Wow. Yeah. So I went all the way up the east coast and ended in Massachusetts where I like stage dive. You stage dived in in Massachusetts. Yeah, I'm a rock star. That's fucking fire. Is that on video anywhere. Hell yeah. Alright I definitely didn't see that in my research. I needed to see that. I called it Moshpie. Like We started Moshpie. and I like to have like let's go. We're having fun like my music is made for fun. Um I make it fun so it's it's cool but like I said you're gonna hear all types of music from me. Like it's it's just this one stuck out because it was just my time my voice I don't know why I'm this old going through puberty my voice is starting to drop a little bit so it's cracking from time to time. Yeah now it's getting deeper and okay, no no problems with the biggest one. I was like, Glorilla and shit. and shit.

So it's like um so was what you need out um you know before the young nudie run? No it came out after the young nudie run. I actually but were you performing it or no I wasn't performing it. Okay. Because you hadn't even made it I had uh did a single deal with Dallas Austin. Okay. Shout out Dallas Austin. Yeah. Shout out Dallas Austin because he did give me you know a chance and no one was really giving me chances at that time it was right when pandemic hit and um I had did a few records with him so I was like performing old records from Nudy um that I had had previously and then I was performing some of the records from Dallas, and then I also had Johnny Apollo with me, and I had DJ Shout out Johnny Apollo. Yeah, for sure. And we had a song on a radio, then no cap record, where we all three had hopped on there. So that was on the radio. That was everywhere in the city blowing up. And then we were just working.

We were just literally doing what we already do. It's just it, you know, we just started getting the respect for it, you know, and getting our way through the city and just working. Does it feel like fake still that it's like starting to Yeah, definitely out of body come together? I haven't processed anything yet. Um, you've been doing this, you said for like years and years now at this point. Like, yeah, I'm just blessed that it's happening. I'm just still trying to keep, you know, it's all a business at the end of the day. And I'm really business ordering it, especially when you start really listening to my music um and understanding what that actually is. Like, I know people listen to the like words and things like that and the beat, but actually the concept of what's actually going on in my music and in my bars, like so. I think over the course of time, now that um people are accepting that women are in power or are becoming in power. We have a vice president woman.

So now that people are actually starting to see that it's real, I'm this is really what's going on. I'm starting to get the respect from it. And then that's where the music is starting to translate to the crowd, and I'm reaching out to people, and then also women are evolving. So that's why now I'm starting to see where I had a man feeling based and starting to go more like this. Like the GloRilla's opening the beer, you know, a whole lot of money in this motherfucker. They they giving me their like shit. I I'm I'm pretty sure I'm way older than them, especially, you know, I'm older than them, but they're opening up that lane. I don't know if you guys heard of Skylar Black. Oh, yeah, from Ohio. Get the fuck out of here. She's fucking hard. She talks about my life every day. And I love her because she's opening that door and it's real. And it's like guys are starting to have to accept that their role will be replaced.

And it will be replaced by me. Yeah, we need a Skylar Black and fucking each opposite song. I reached it. I reached out to her. She left you on red? No, she didn't leave me on red. She responded to me. Oh yeah, You have the blue check. Oh, my God. What the fuck is a blue check? I'm still trying to figure out what that is. It gets you to the top of Skylar's DMs. Clearly. I'm like, everybody's like, you got a blue check now. So you just I'm like, You made it. I'm like, what the fuck is a blue check? You're like, there's no money that comes directly from a blue check. Indirectly, yeah. But yeah, I I don't look like I said, I'm not on social media that's. So what'd she say? What'd she say? Or like or like how did you shoot your shot? Shit, shot of you hard. What's up? What's up? What's up? I got some records for you. She was like, Yeah, I'm gonna uh I'm gonna fuck with you. But um, we haven't gotten touch yet. I haven't ran into her yet. Um, sometimes we'll comment back and forth on Instagram and yo, Skylar. Yeah, let's get her.

Let's get it. Come on, Sky. Come on, Sky. I I I know what's going on. The the people need this. You know what I mean when I say I know what's going on. I'm her too. Period. Yeah, so that's amazing. We need that record. I struggle a little bit because I don't look my age. I know you look so young. I look yeah, I look real young. So that's another problem that I really run into. a lot. Is that a problem? Yeah, no, it doesn't seem like a problem to me. No, it's not a problem when it comes to fan base and uh consumers, but when it comes to handling business, um, people tend to treat me like a kid. They don't take you as seriously. I'll just be staring at them like, dude, I have a whole I'm way past like I got real estate license, I got businesses, I got all kinds of things. So I just be looking like you have no idea. I'ma just let you think I'm this cute little girl. I got you. Yeah, it's almost like you know, comes unexpected of like, oh shit.

Yeah, she's not fucking around. I know everything I'm saying, know everything I'm doing. I know what you're doing, and I uh I don't know what you think that you think I don't know. I know it's just whether I acknowledge it or not, now that I'm older. For sure. Well, yo, like your story so far, so dope. Like the music is so hard. Like, love your energy. I mean, as soon as I met you, I was like, yo, we gotta get you on. And she was like, let's fucking run it. So I appreciate you. Henry, We have entered a final segment of the podcast. Where are we at? Fuck is that? You just brought out a notebook. This is the rapid fire rampage. Okay, yeah. I feel like I need a shot for this shit. What are we doing? Should we do one real quick? I mean, go ahead, Henry. Load her up. It was the way you it was the way you. So while Henry's getting the uh shots, the rapid fire rampage is a three-part rampage, okay?

And the key word here is rapid fire and rampage. First part is short answer. He's gonna literally hit you with just some you know, short answer questions, you're gonna give him an answer. The second part is a this or that. He's gonna give you two choices. You're gonna pick one that resonates with you the most, okay? The third one is the word association, meaning he's gonna fire one word at you. You're gonna fucking just say the first thought or word that comes to mind. Oh my god. So you just got, you guys want me to just do what I do in regular life? Okay, I got you. Basically. Pretty much. Patron. Patron, we'd love a sponsorship. Patron. What is that? This is mine. You want it, right? You didn't want this one earlier. Dude, what? How much is in there? No, how much is in yours? Bro, you're the biggest guy at the table. More than you. This this one, it it's a it's an illusion. It's an illusion, I promise. Oh god. Cheers. Patrón, give us a fucking sponsorship. Yes. Hmm. Say I'll go back over the what he uh just said as we do it. But yeah, first part, just some short answer questions.

Are you buckled up? Are you ready to go? Hold the buckle. Buckle the fuck up. E-Chapo, you've been forced to leave hip hop and switch genres. What type of music do you start making? Gospel. Who is your current dream feature? Skylar Black. Perfect. Who is an artist you would never do a feature with? You really gonna you really gonna do that shit? Is that is that gaslighting a little bit? Okay, um we can skip it. No, no, no. We actually can do that. Um I mean, you were talking about all the beef that we should have lined up and curated in our episodes. Yeah, true. Yeah, and then you're gonna have me on the fucking beef next. You're gonna have to bring me back here next week, like, oh, you was talking that shit. Yeah, literally the start of this beef train. Yeah.

Uh a rapper that I would never do music with DaBaby. In the next 15 seconds, invent a food. Blueberry waffle with the fucking bacon and sausage and eggs in that bitch. But then you gotta motherfucking put some lean on it, because that really counts as a syrup. She just actually ate that on her Instagram story about two days ago. You gotta fucking tell me! I don't know about the lean part, but I did see the sausage, bacon, egg in a blueberry fucking waffle. But the weed was like that. I'm in the weed. The fucking lean was like the syrup. Oh, that was okay. I missed that. We'll give we'll give credit for the lean syrup. The lean syrup is fine. We'll give her that for sure. That's amazing. Okay, moving on. You've just opened a strip club in Atlanta.

What do you call it? Balls and berries. You already had this in your mind. Yes, Lee. That was way too quick. Balls and berries, first location coming soon. Coming soon. Satellite location after that. I'm investing. Fuck it. Chapo, you must marry a fictional character. Who do you choose? Hancock. If you were arrested, what would your friends and family assume it was for? Don't look at us. Just assume. Not saying. It's not incriminating. Stealing candy. What a weak answer. Yeah, it was kind of PC. Go ahead. Anyway, fine. This uh this next question is kind of philosophical in nature. God damn it, Henry. You know it's coming. Is a thumb a finger? Yes.

Where do you see a 70-year-old E-Chapo? Um I see myself running a lot of organizations, such as uh uh sports organizations. I definitely want to, I was a college athlete, and once I was done with being an athlete, they kind of just used my body. So I definitely 70-year-old E-Chapo, I am running organizations that empower and place um athletes in jobs that we gave up our body for the community. Love it. Last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? Bitch. Part one. Part one. She's doing great. Pretty good. That was pretty good. There were a couple where you know she went PC with it, which I respect, you know, understand. But besides that, she's media trained. Exactly.

Can't say in her first rodeo. Can't fault her for that. Second part is the this or that. I'm gonna give you just two choices, and you pick one. Simple as that. Facts. What the fuck did you get these shit? Like, what do y'all do all day? I feel like I watched Rick and Morty. Don't open that door. I watched it too, so that I can feel what's going on. I mean that sound is from an animated show. So you're right on the money. I hate Rick and Morty. You're crazy. My wife is obsessed with it. It's so good. I like Family Guy. I hate Family Guy. We're not friends anymore. And I like Spongebob. I don't know him. SpongeBob's good. SpongeBob's good, but that's good. Out of all those shows you like that's nostalgic. Jesus Christ. That's nostalgic. Can we start the this or that? Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Rapping or singing? Rapping. Piano or guitar? Piano. Drums or melodies? Drums. Drums or flats? Flat. Dogs or babies? Dog.

Blue or pink? Blue? A hamster sized elephant or an elephant-sized hamster. Elephant sized hamster. It's a big ass hamster hamster. You could put it in your fucking pocket. No. Elephant-sized hamster. You mean hamster-sized elephant? Oh, shit. You got a big-ass hamster. It's because you gave me the fucking alcohol, bro. Don't blame the patron. Yeah. I thought a pocket-sized elephant would be cool. Yeah, I agree. Don't blame our sponsor. Shout out Patron. Appreciate the bottle. Are you going to give up driving or give up cheese? Driving. The fuck. Yeah. Fuck that. I agreed. Heavy traffic or slow Wi-Fi. Getting some head. Best answer so far. Best answer so far. Best answer. Easily. Easily best so far. I heard Roadhead makes you crash, but I don't know. It got me arrested.

as We won't talk about that. Leave that one for another episode. Get a face tat of Bill Cosby or lose a hand. Face tat. What's up, pal? You couldn't have roofied me. That nigga would have roofied me and be like, why is this bitch still awake? I do those. You better put some more in that shit. What we going next? A couple more, Bill. Yeah. Drugs on Bill, let go. He would have been fucked. up. fuck on my friends. Oh man, we're canceled. We just got canceled. E-Chapo officially canceled us. Bill's out. Yeah. Yeah. I had a couple more, but let's leave it at that part two. Part two. Part two, part two. God damn Chapo. Amazing. One more time. This is our last episode. Yeah. We will be rebranding. This is popped off the episode.

This is popped off. Agreed. Agreed. Let's start the episode with this. Yeah. Okay, last part of the rampage is the word association. I say a word and you say the first word or two words, maybe right back at me off the top of your head. Boom. It's like freestyling. Kinda. Kinda. Starting with. Hip hop. Classical. Cadillac. Bitches. Square. Cat dog. What? I love cat dog, but I'm failing to see the uh she's dead. That one patron shot did it. One. One since the episode started. Moving on. Biscuit. Gravy. Cash app. PayPal. Outfit. Infit.

Whoa. Blew my mind. Man, we had to think about that one for a second. Base. Camp. Zaza. Mid. Cousin. Bro. Cap. No cap. October. Fall. TikTok. What the fuck is that? Tornado. Hurricane. Chips. Money. Lil. B. Have we ever had a Lil B answer? That might be a first for Lil B. yeah. Nope, but it's epic. Alien. Me. OnlyFans. Where you at? Podcast. Broadcast. What you? Neat. What a rampage.

E-Chapo in the building. One more time. Podcast. As always, please like, comment, subscribe. If you want to support E-Chapo, we appreciate you coming on. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I love y'all guys. Awesome. H3 until next week. What are we doing? Getting out of here. Getting the fuck out of here. Peace. Let's go. Pop that shit like one more time. Pop that one more time. Pop that shit like one more time. Pop that one more time. Oh. Hop up in the floor and skirting up. All the homies that shit dripping up. Middle finger to the law. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go.