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That's where I get the music from the bad parts of life. Yeah. We all got it. We all see it. We all acknowledge it and feel it. Music has always been something that I pull from that part the love and pain. Not just pain, but love and pain. Which go together just fine. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. One more time. One more time. One more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host. H3, aka aka The Trap Jack Black. H3, who do we got in the podcast? You like that, right? Yeah, I look like Jack Black a little bit. H3, who do in. the hot seat today? Welcoming in on episode 68 of the One More Time Podcast. Legendary Hooper.

It's Dennis Rodman. Let's go. Have you gotten that before because of the nose ring? I just because the nose ring. I was just saying on my song recently in the studio, like yesterday. I was like, nose ring on my face, I feel like Dennis Rodman. Perfect. Colors on my hair, I feel like Dennis Rodman. Trap and caught the rock. I feel like Dennis Rodman. That's hard. Ball in Chicago I feel like Dennis Rodman. Ooh! This dude has bars for days. Oh, just tweeting in there. That's great. This is legendary songwriter, producer, artist. We got Fireman, H.O.F. in the building. Let's go. Oh no. Thanks for coming, man. Appreciate you coming, man. You know, we talked about where you're coming from, and you seem to have a nomadic lifestyle where you have multiple kind of home bases. But where did you literally fly in from? Where are you coming from? Chicago. Okay, you were in Chicago last? Yeah. Well, that's that's beautiful. You are born and raised in Chicago. Chicago. Chance went on record saying that you were his favorite rapper from Chicago.

Hell yeah. Wild. What does a cosign like that mean to you? It mean a lot. It mean, you know, love. That's my boy. That's my boy, you know. Later he became my boy. At first, he was somebody that we a fan of each other. But then later we became more close friends, like cool, like been to his house type shit, work with each other, be with each other type stuff. But um, that's my dog. It feels really good to be acknowledged at all. Well to be shown love publicly. You know, it just proved the narrative wrong what they say about Chicago sometimes. People say, Chicago, hey Nerd City, it's a crab and a bucket, crab and a barrel. But whole time, it is dope. But at the same time, it just it's a lot of love there too, you know? Yeah. He showed love. He showed that that ain't always what it feels like. That's dope. So you consider yourself kind of the godfather of drill. Is that a self-titled thing? Or I won't say it's self, but I also won't say, I won't say a word like the okay.

You know what I'm saying? One of the one of the few, very few. You know what I'm saying? Like drill fathers, I say. Um everybody know that. Who who else is in the running for that title? If there was to be just one, who else is in that camp? It was the original people who it was, and it is what it is, and it was what it was. Doug, You understand? I don't know. I don't know, But whole time, it was like, you know, you had people pop smoke, you gotta put in the convo. No, I'm not talking about that era of it all. I'm talking about the origins, the origins, origins, origins, like the original origins to make it all to create it. And uh rest in peace to pop smoke. I just had a like mini conversation with his mother like recently on Instagram and stuff like that. We was messaging it. You know, she's always very supportive of herself. So shout out to Mama Smoke. Oh, yeah. Um, but um So for those that don't know, because obviously we're here in Atlanta, Atlanta, still hasn't really made its way to Atlanta as much, right? As some of the other pockets, right?

So who are some of you know, just to shout him out? You got DJ, you got DJ L and myself, you know what I'm saying? You got snap back on track, young chop, you got rest in peace, the smiles. And we're talking about like producers and stuff who made the sound, the actual sound how it sound or something. Yeah. Then you got, you know, a lot of the obviously all the artists that blew up from that place when you cut, you got Lil Durk, Chief Keef, Lil Jojo, P. Rico, people like that, Ruga. You feel me? For sure. So yeah. So for someone who's never heard of drill music, how would you describe it? Yeah, In Chicago, like juke music, footwork music, mixed with like trap dark ass trap music or sampling music. Pretty much it's like a feeling. It's a feeling that we create, that we create that just kind of sound like how it feels to walk around in Chicago. Yeah, kind of on edge, kind of sinister. No, not necessarily because sometimes it might be a beautiful sample with it too.

You know what I'm saying? But it's just it's the it's just the feeling of that that pulse, which is house music. Yeah. That come from Chicago, mixed with all the different ways we can mix it. Yeah, it's that hi-hat pattern. The hi-hat pattern is crucial. Snares, hi-hats, and you know, bass kicks and all the drums and all the nerdy little sound stuff that I ain't gonna go into. Yeah, no, for sure. That's my favorite shit, man. So Hello! So, you know, Chicago kind of being the origin story of drill, compare kind of the regional stuff, right? Because, you know, Henry even mentioned pop smoke. Obviously, that was, you know, a different region, like sub subpockets of it, right? Like UK drill. Yeah, yeah. Is there a vast difference? Like how would you describe kind of like the regional differences? I don't see no vast difference. It all it all it all's from that same exact like cloth right there. Um, but then it all just kind of like went to other places, and the difference is them. Yeah.

The shit they talking about, the people they talking about. Other than that, in terms of the sound of it, is no different. It's all the same, you know what I'm saying? Um so it's like the themes and the and the like regional culture that's maybe spoken about in the in the lyrics, you think? No, that's not different either. They kind of like formed a lot of their themes and cultures based off what they originally grew up listening to a drill uh of, like catch an op, ooh, or smoking this person or naming their friends or whatever who who they is cool with and saying they'll do this. So, you know, that just it's just little things that we do in, in real music. Yeah. So you mentioned some of the themes of you know, smoking an op, you know. All those different things is what the culture we bring, sometimes fortunately, sometimes unfortunately. Right. You know, that's up to the person. Yeah, so how do you respond to like the fact that drill music, you know, some people comment that it is not great for the overarching, you know, climate, right? As far as it promotes vibe, you know, these are comments that are said, right?

Like, you know, how do you respond to those? I would respond by saying you said the things that drill is talking about isn't great for the overall climate of earth and humanity, right? Yeah, I mean, I'm not necessarily posing that, but just yeah, people say that people do say that. So To that, I'll say the things that Drill is talking about, which which like kind of sometimes puts a lot of energy that hurts the world or something, it's talking about the world. So the world is hurting the world. Hello, the shit that it is, that's the shit that's bad, because that's how shit be sometimes. Bad as hell. So you can't get mad at the mirror for showing the reflection. You have to just get mad at the reflection. Yeah, you can't get mad at the mirror. For being reflected. I don't know. But what I'm saying is art imitate life, life imitate art. What is life? That's some shit we gotta figure out how to get our life right. That's up to God. God is the greatest. Boom. yeah, I feel like starting a conversation around some of these things too can be beneficial. We just do some music that just reflect how we feel and things we just know about or seen.

Yeah. Yeah, I think the biggest issue that like you know, critics have of it is that it sometimes glamorizes it, right? It it kind of paints it in this picture of cool and not as much so as it is cool. There you go. What's cooler? Only problem is people got a problem when we do glamorization of fucked up shit that's cool. Cowboy movies glamorize murder and all that type shit or something. Yeah. That make it look cool as a motherfucker What a motherfucker. No, it's that's a very valid point. Bro, we just watched Django, all that stuff. It's fun, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, it's entertainment, bro. Yeah, people have a tough time, I think, differentiating entertainment. It's entertainment. Yeah, yeah, no, true. So, you know, don't want to get too much into it, but I do want to make sure people know where you're coming from, right? So obviously you're from Chicago, but like paint us a picture of the Chicago that you grew up in, right? Because, you know, like we talked about.

Fist fights, jukes, juke parties. Grandma telling you go to church or something. You come out of church, you change your church clothes, go back outside. Once you go outside on your block, niggas out there gang banging, doing all the stuff you do, you're getting all the influences in one. Anyway, You just it's just a love place. It's a great place. It's an ugly place. It's our place. How did it shape you like into the man that you are today, right? Like, are there certain qualities you think specifically came from like your upbringing versus just like who you, you know, who you ultimately were gonna do? Everything shaped me. Everything in Chicago shaped me to who I am. Everything, everywhere I go shape me to who I am. Right now I'm in Atlanta, I'm in Stone Mountain. I didn't know this shit was a real mountain. Oh, yeah. It's a big ass mountain. Big-ass thing of granite right there. It's an actual mountain. Huge. In in Chicago, we got a thing called Stony Island. But guess what?

It's not a real island. It's not an island. Gee, it's not a peninsula, a peninsula, none of that. It's a it's a it's a it's a place called Stony Island. When you go there, there's gonna be people outside, they're gonna be like loose squares trying to sell you cigarettes, try, you know, people gonna be walking up on you, like, what's going on? You got the liquor store, you got stores to go to. I can come to Stone Mountain. I'm thinking it's gonna be the Atlanta version of that. It's not a real mountain. Other-ass part of Atlanta where niggas are standing outside of a place, like, yo, what's going on? What's up, my boy? No, on God, there's some of that in some parts. There's some of that, but on God, there's a real mountain, literally, too. Yes. Yeah. That they got an actual mountain out this motherfucker. Oh, yeah. People walk up and down it all the time. Yeah, yeah. Stony Island sounds like some false advertising. This is actually a mountain made of stone. I don't know why Stony Island called Stony Island, but I love it though. But on God, Is Cottage Grove really a grove? I don't know, but that's the next episode. I don't phone them. Real talk, that's funny, man. So, you know, it definitely has shaped you into the man. So, like, similarly speaking, has it pretty much been the cornerstone of you as a creative too?

Like that Chicago nature. Yeah. Yep. It's how I make my how I make the music. I mean, we wouldn't even be here today if it wasn't like that. If I'd have tried to copy off other places, or any of us did at the time, shit, we wouldn't have no relevance in the game. So people kind of like grow off what we was doing versus vice versa. Mhmm. I'm finding them. Yeah. So when you're thinking about like your first memory of music, though, right? Like, was it those juke parties, or kind of like, you know, what what's like your, you know, even if it's like an album you bought, like what's your first memory of music at all? Chicago people, I feel like, especially in my generation, a lot of things that we influence based off of is from the south and shit like that. Because our grandparents and people like that, they not from Chicago most of the time. They really, they really probably grew up there, but they from Arkansas, Mississippi, places like that. So your first, you won't choose your first music when you're little. So you hear what's grown-ups playing around you.

They playing, they playing stuff from that old school people in the south play or something. So that's what all my first stuff with music was. It wasn't all this stuff. Who are some of those artists? Like who are you put on by your grandparents? I don't know. All type of shit. But they was old. Shout out to them. My grandma wasn't putting me on 50 Cent. Yeah, if I'm 10, on the phone though. She wasn't the one putting me on, put her on. So did she move to Chicago from the South? My granddaddy and them from Arkansas or something. Oh, wow. Okay. Louisiana and all that type of shit. Yep. For sure. So, what's a point where you remember music being more than just like you as a listener? You know what I mean? So obviously we all listen to music, you know, growing up first, right? But like, is there a point where you remember it kind of being more than that? You know what I'm saying? Um it always been more than that to me. Like every, I don't know. I don't even have a memory of it not because I mean, not to say I was trying to nerd out over it and become a musician or trying to think of songs.

It just was more personal to me since from the jump. It was more, I think that's for a lot of people. That's where I'm from. A lot of a lot of black people, like we our mu music to us is a little bit different at times because it's we where it come from. So it's like, it is like we the source of all that shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, where we from. So it's like it always was an interactive part of our life for real. Like, let's say you you go to church or something. Music isn't something you just listen to in church, it's some shit you participate in. Y'all clapping your hands or something. What? So it's always we we don't just listen to music. We interacted with it at a strong level. We danced to that shit. We making up dances with our friends or some shit. Not me, but kids and shit doing it, you know. So music has always been just like a fabric of people. Yeah. You know where I'm from. No, definitely. So when you first started making music though, what was going on in the Chicago music scene? You know what I mean?

When you very first started, you know, making music. Okay. Bump J. That's the only thing that was mattered the most at that time, Bump J, to us at least. It was other other stuff going on, but Bump J was the main goon squad, Bump J, Sly, Polaroid, Chel H, Bo Deal, like all that type of stuff. Marvel or something was out back then too, from Harvey World, I think. Um, it was a lot of that. We listened to a lot of Chicago music, like Bum J. And fortunately, I know Bum J now, type shit, so that's cool, but that's who I grew up listening to. Yeah, how would you describe the their sound, right? Like, obviously it wasn't drill at that point, right? So, like, you know, how would you? It kind of was my Was it? Yeah, because Bum J really, I think is a big originator of all this vibe. Okay. Because in Chicago, you had a lot of the West Side, it was more player type music, pimp type stuff, do or die, twist, all that. Mm-hmm. Then you got conscious rap in Chicago, like Lupe and Kanye, Common, and all that. For us, Bump J, he the one who was saying like more about more street oriented, I'd say.

So I feel like our first impulse from all that was really Bump J. and which side of the city was he from? His ass, I think he from uh over east or something. Okay. I don't know. Okay. He from over east. But he he it's hard to tell back then where he from, because he was he was his name was so important. And when I'd be out west, his I thought he was from out west. So how they had their own personal stories of him. I grew up over East a lot too. I went to O'Keefe over there, so I heard a lot of personal stories from older people at that time with real interaction from him. So I ain't know where the nigga was from. Yeah. So did you start out trying to make music, you know, as an artist, though, first? Like was that your first thing? You, you know, you were an artist, right? Yeah. Okay. What was your artist name at that point? Like your very first one. Uh you asked a funny ass question. We need this. Uh damn, what was it? Uh I don't remember. Damn. Is it just embarrassing and you're just trying to?

I fake don't remember. I don't even think we was. I was calling it a name or something. Cause think about it. Like, I wasn't saying I ain't had no CD out on TV or something. So I ain't have a rap name. I was it was just my own name, Fire. Just your name? Or Man man or something, like just what people are calling me because where was you gonna see the name at? Right. I wasn't gonna walk up on you and say my rap name to you. I wasn't that much of a fucking rapper. That's corny as hell if I'm telling you a different name than my real name. Like so it didn't feel as you know, like something that was gonna go places at that point to the point where you like wanted to name yourself. It was more. I just saw an interview with T.I. Now at first my I saw an interview with TI or heard an interview with TI when I was little, and they said, How you get your name, TI? His ass was getting that. That's my nickname. I thought you had to make up a rap name, but once I seen that, I'm like, oh, I don't gotta make up a rap name. I could just use my own nickname anyway.

Yeah. Okay, so they were already calling you that, like on the block? Just Fire. Yeah. Yeah. Fire. And where'd that originate from? Yeah. No, I'm saying, where did that come from? Fire? Some bullshit. Okay. Just some bullshit. Do you start a kitchen fire or something? Type shit. Goofy shit. Okay. Just making that fire music. Yeah, I guess so. Um, so what was the sense of community like? You know what I mean? Um, was it like inclusive? where, like artists and music makers were supporting each other? Was it kind of divided? Like, what was the music, you know, community like when you were first getting started? Shit, it was similar to how it is now. People who rock with each other rock with each other. People who don't, they overly don't. Chicago don't get no. issue. either they rock with you or they overly don't rock with you. They should have, yeah, like they ain't the same. So at the end of the day, it was just like now. People who rock with each other, we got camaraderie. We, you know what I'm saying?

All that we got support. We we support each other. We showing up to each other videos and events and personal matters and internets and comments and shares and shit. But at the same time, people who don't rock with each other, they also showing up to the same things, but it's not the way, don't know. it's the same. Chicago has a lot of togetherness, because we can get together one way or the other, good or bad. But we together though. It's very polarized. It's how we're gonna get together. You're on one side or the other. We're going to get out with you. I don't know. Yeah. So I do have to say this. When I was doing my research, I know you were running around with the pop it off boys, and crank that Batman, you know, their song, was probably like it was arguably one of my most played songs during my high school. Like brings me back. Yeah, so I watched that video last night, and I was just like, that's an old school looking video. Like it took, you know, they got the super baggy clothes, just the like stylistics of the of the video was like so. It was like TV early 2000s, or like, you know, mid 2000s or whatever. Yeah, so that that was just, you know, that was interesting for me.

I was like definitely a flashback. So, like, what what were those times like? You know, what were you doing with those guys? Um learning, traveling. They brought me with them. They put me in the right. I won't even certainly say they like rest in peace, a little action, by the way. Nick, one of the members from the group, he passed along. I mean, he passed across over to the other side, you know what I'm saying? Rest in peace to him. Peace be upon him. But uh Cortland, who's in that group, his name's BCG, but it's Cortland Jabray. he the one who really put me in a music game at all. Um, for real. So what at that time was like was just learning from him. And he bring me with him. He'll, he'll, he'll, if he get booked at that time, he'll say, like, well, you gotta bring, you gotta pay for the tickets in the rooms of my dancers and shit. So that's how I don't know how to fucking dance. So I thank him for that, because he used to just pretty much just make sure I was with him, regardless if he can afford it or not, or whatever could go on. If I could afford it, he just made sure I was with him. Not every day or none or

every time, but enough times to impact my life to me learn some shit or get some networking in a relationships that I still got now, type shit. Yeah. So major shout out to him. Yeah. Yeah. Over shout out to him. Over shout. Tattoo right now of shorty on fund MC. oh wow. Yeah. Oh shit, that's awesome. Sure. I like tattoos a lot of stuff. So yeah, I I feel like everyone that's come on the podcast has had, I mean, multiple people. You you, you know, you go on to have a bunch of people that have probably you know severely impacted your trajectory in music, but to have that first person. Or that early one. People like that. Yeah, exactly. But that but that like first person that like really, I mean, he didn't need to do that really, you know what I mean? Like, and and so it's so cool to me. that that exists. Yeah, Moen said to not do it because he already was like... Had a lot going on. He had some motion. Yeah. They had this shit called spityourgame.com back in the day in the south.

I think it was in Atlanta, this dude named CEO Charlie, who went on to probably like manage like 2 Chainz. 2 Chainz and Travis Porter and shit. Yeah. So that was the era. Like back then, if you was on there, that was like You made it. Yeah. He was on there all the time. So of course he didn't have to, he was already doing his shit I was just a regular nigga. Just from where I'm from. And then he just saw something in me that I ain't understanding myself yet. Yeah, what do you think he saw? The shit that the Grammys saw. Hello. He saw that too. He saw that in the future. Absolutely. So obviously you've obviously you've gone on to, you know, have a great career, you know, songwriter, producer, and obviously your artistry. From the songwriting perspective, like, did you have certain interests growing up that you think like made you or have made you a strong, like a strong songwriter? You know what I mean?

Like, were you into like books or movies? You know, is there anything that you can like point to that has given you that gift with words? Pain. Pain? Mm-hmm. Strong relationship with pain and turmoil and shit. Mm-hmm. That makes me a better songwriter because I write dark music more so than like light, bright music. Yeah. Does it help ease the pain a little bit when you write about it? Is it kind of like a medicine? I don't say all that. Is it bad? I'd have to pay a little play a little violin or something with it. Yeah, the world's smart. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, Man, that's where I get the music from. The bad parts of life. Yeah. We all got it. We all see it. We all acknowledge it and feel it. It ain't something that at times they're overconsumed or not, but that's you know, that's from a therapist or something. Or from them. Right. But at the end of the day, like music has always been something that I pull from that part, the love and pain. Not just pain, but love and pain, which go together just fine. Mm-hmm. They cause the other each other. Or from them.

So that's why I pull the music from that type of stuff. Love and pain. You know, that's my influence when it comes to music. Yeah, I feel like you're gonna probably answer this a certain way, but I want to ask, like, can a strong songwriter write for anyone, or is it very like artist-specific as far as who you're actually able to, you know, work with well? I don't got the answer for that. I don't know. You think you could write for like Ed Sheeran? Yeah, of course. Now, are you talking about me? Or you said songwriter? I I just mean a a strong songwriter. You're clearly a gifted songwriter. I'm one of the best ever, so it's hard to put it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm one of the coldest motherfuckers to know how to do that and and and do it and done it for some of the most acknowledged, coldest motherfuckers on this planet. Yeah. So I don't even want to try to, I don't think it'll be it would even matter to even try to put myself with it all. So for me, yes, I can write for Ed Sheeran, I can write for anybody in any language.

It's something that God has blessed me with, a gift of, and I I'll be doing God a disservice to not talk my shit and say how cold I am. Hell yeah. That's why you're here for sure. Sharing me some blessings, you know what I'm saying? Straight up, that's how put me on. Allah got me right. So yeah, I can write for anybody if I want to, or if they want to, you know, not do I want to? Am I trying to? No. I'm gonna let it all happen naturally. I'm not thirsty for all that type of stuff. Sure. So you you mentioned this briefly in like a you know, written excerpt from an interview you did before, but like you talked about the psychology of songwriting and how almost that's as important as you know the other aspects of it. Like, yeah, you know, what do you mean by that, right? Like, talk to you, can kind of unpack that a little bit, like. Like, what is the psychology of songwriting in your mind? How words affect other people and how it makes them feel. Yeah, I just simplify it, like yeah, simple.

So you you have you have that in mind when you're writing. You're you're thinking, you know, how are people gonna perceive this? How are they? Not no more. I do it instinctually now, I've just been doing it so long. So but that's the that's the whole point. That's what we all doing here. That's what everybody who's doing this shit doing on purpose or not. Niggas who accidentally make a hit, they don't really quite know how to do it on purpose yet, or whatever or something. And the people who keep doing it, who keep making hits that really affect people a certain way, they do it on purpose. They know how we doing, we're doing this. This hard job. And you crack that code. I guess that's some shit. I don't know. Yeah, I guess. yeah. Do you ever struggle with it? Are you ever at a loss for you know, words, or like, you know, it is does it feel as effortless as you're like yeah? Yeah, it is easy. Boom. Wow, the music easy, but the life hard, so you gotta live your life, and that's hard. People be cold at music, people be having talent, but they let life fuck them up and distract them. The point is to make it into a music game or something.

Shit, you gotta know that like life finna fuck up all the time. You just gotta keep trying to do this or something, even if that's happening. Do you feel like that helps sometimes, like with the music though, going through all that shit? Right, yeah. They don't peep it though. If this would get you out of heat anyway. Yeah. Right. As sad as that like sounds, but it is like, you know, sometimes some of those like hardest times are what other people are going through. So to your point. If your bitch, cheat on you. Now you can go in. Now you get to go in the booth and be like, this bitch just cheated on me. Cheated on me. This bitch just cheated on me. That sounds like a hit, by the way. Cheated on me. So if a bitch was texting somebody else, I shouldn't, I shouldn't decide to read it on me. Is there a formula? Is there a formula for hit records in your mind? Is it like a moment that everybody can relate to that we all know in common? That's what Ray Daniels said.

That's the truth. Yeah, shout out Ray Daniels. He's got some games. It's the soundtrack to moments in your life and shit. But there's so many moments. Exactly. That's why so many hits. God damn it. That's like that. That's true. Hello. That's true. So, you know, you kind of alluded to Dirk. You know, he was the first major artist, I guess, from the city to embrace you. I think you said that in another interview. So, like, how did that relationship even? Yeah. Well, yeah, how did that relationship even start? Was that y'all just knew each other in the old ass person who I knew was gonna be a who had gifts, his ass magic. I already knew that shit. He was young as hell, I was young as hell. And then we just started talking all the time and just building it, just kind of putting together the plan for how we wanted to be. And we both being the the people that we wanted to be in many ways. We both went through our different turmoils and traumas along the way as well. And uh Dirk is an icon, and I always knew he was gonna be an icon.

Did you tell him that early on? Yeah, yeah. Was that like a DM thing? Did you find him just kind of on social media? Nah, we just we all from the same city. Everybody know the same people. To some degree. Yeah, just mutual. And plus the internet. Right. But so was it tough at all to move around in the music scene, like getting started? Or like did you find it easy to like What you mean? You know, like I'm sure a lot of people in Chicago now don't think they can just like meet the people that are, you know what I mean? He wasn't already there already. That's what I'm saying. Like if that's what you getting at. Yeah. Okay, so like, how did you even, you know, if he wasn't anything, you know. I have a gift. Like Professor X, some motherfucking uh X-Men or something. I had I know how to locate the mutants. Yeah. Yeah. Before they're Hollywood. I could just feel it and know who I'm who before they even be there. So that's that's a testament to just a gift that God placed into my life, and I gotta just give, you feel me? Give praise to the most high on that.

You might make a decent AR. Decent. I mean, we got a whole movement right now. Yeah. Is there any uh let's say this Sah baby? You ever heard of him? Yeah from Atlanta. His first video he ever shot, he did it to one of my beats. Really? Yeah. Wow. Y'all ever heard of goddamn it? Most of these niggas in the whole world. they got a lot of ass sound. what the fuck we doing. I'm from them, yes, we doing this shit, I'm from them. Not saying he got his sound, I'm just saying, shit. I always have some type of magic way to just this before he even did pull up with a stick or anybody knew him. Like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But how did you find him, for example, even, you know? Because if he was in Atlanta, did you find him on the internet somehow? Yeah, like, yeah, like I can just it's like a spidey sense of just yeah, like I just know how to fan it out. It's just frequency. Damn, who are you tapped in with right now? Yeah, who's next? Yeah, I was gonna say personally young cats we need to be. Well, yeah, look into your crystal ball right now.

It costs money. 10k code. I'll just say people that I rock with right now who I feel like is next. All right, cool. You know what I'm saying? There's so many people that whoever just feel like I ain't say my name. Shut your goof ass up and you gotta go do an interview and take my name. I'll always be putting y'all niggas on. Shut y'all ass up. Shut y'all ass up. But anyway, you got 10K code. you got SG Batman, you got motherfucking T Louie, you got Julio Rizzo, you got K Cash, you got it's a lot of raw ass talent in the game right now that's coming up. Hollywood. I ain't gonna say Hollywood next, though. He got now like a motherfucker. He got this goddamn sneaky link. That shit was number one. Girl, I could be your sneaky link. Be your sneaky link. They did that at our studio. On for them. I produce his records too. Shameless plug. Yeah. Thank God. That's what we're here for. Hello. There's a lot of people that's up next. PGF Nuk. He's up now. A while ago I would have said that, but now everybody know. it's a lot of people.

Yeah, that's a good list. Nice. Everybody off Quincy. West Side of Chicago. Just the whole West Side movement is going up in Chicago crazy. Um it's just up from all sides from the from the all sides. Do people send you artists a lot? I hate that, but yeah. Okay. Yeah. Got like a 100 in his DMs. I ain't gonna say I hate it, but I don't know. I was gonna say his DMs are not open, people just let it happen naturally. Yeah. Unless you're one of them trusted people that we be we talk to each other all day, every day, but no, I'm good. So, but for for those people that are in like your trusted circle, are they like constantly kind of like helping you know about like what's going on? No. Not even. So, how are you finding these people? I told you God got his hand on our life. God we HOL. I need that direct line of communication to the most high, too. Yeah. Just stand in the sun a lot. Okay. Okay. Yes, sir. Is that how you got the blonde hair? Yep. Sunlight.

There you go. So you mentioned kind of the best studio chemistry with you know the artist that you work with. I think was uh Vic Mensa was who you mentioned in a previous interview. Shout out Vic. Is that still who you would say like you got some of the strongest studio chemistry with at this point? I don't know. I'm just gonna pause that whole. I don't know, man. Uh that's my dog. We all got chemistry. Fuck, no, I'm just saying. studio chemistry. I'm just fucking around. But uh how'd you meet Vic? Vic, that's my dog. That's my nigga. I know him through Malik Youssef. He from Chicago. He ain't save money. He with my nigga chance. We all one group. We all together. You feel me? Um, that's my nigga. On fun now. Yeah, so music questions you got. How many what? It's starting to get real musical in this motherfucker. That's what you do, right? There's music right here. Let's talk about life though, man. What's going on with uh Brandon Granted, man? I feel like that show is bogus as hell. Um we have harsh ass sentences.

What do you feel like the solution is? To alright. my grandma and them, they used to be saying this shit, this parable in the Bible or something. And they used to be saying that if you got a log in your eye, don't be trying to pick a little splinter out of somebody else's eye, or something like that. You feel me? So what I mean is how everybody gonna be saying all this stuff or whatever about this whole situation, but not understanding that, like, bro, this America, this the worst place. We got the most people locked up, we got the most harshest sentences and all that. They just did something harsh too. Oh, this shit need to stop. That shit fool as hell. And that shit bogus. That's how I feel about that shit. And the media, they was fooled. They don't need to talk about all that. They want to talk about all this other stuff and you know, different little distractions and all that. Yeah, we definitely love we like claiming that we're the the greatest country in the world, but we definitely have a lot of issues. We the worst country in the world.

And I know people right now with their little weird flags and shit. If you feel like that, why don't you just go on, man. Go back to Africa. or go to the other place that you should go. Because If you don't like it here, you shouldn't be here. So now anybody who say that, I know they asked wrong. Cause whole time, that means if you like it here that much, now I gotta wonder, like, man, why? Yeah, So that means you don't mind this or you don't mind that. If you like it that much, you you standing for it that much, like, yeah, I'm I'm grateful. I'm thankful for grace that I'm here, and it just ain't exactly certain types of other bads that's going on, like Hotel Rwanda or some shit every day. But at the same time, like, no, I'ma acknowledge how wild shit is around this bitch, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, but that's all rhetoric anyway. Yeah, but like with the specific Brittany Griner situation, since you wanted to talk about it, what would be the solution? She's locked up for fucking nine years, ten years.

Get her out. So, what We offered an arms deal which is crazy that it should take that. So, would you just give them anyone that they're asking for for another? Have you ever seen Crank? I don't think so. It's this movie where dude. has. It's where if he if he, his adrenaline goes down. Yeah, we need his ass, him, we get him. Jason Statham. I'm gonna go to him to like rescue. Get me Liam Neeson. Yeah, they got a military. They got CIA. They got secret spies. Go get her out. What the Fuck is y'all talking about? Yeah. You're gonna ask them, can they let her out? Knowing they ain't finna let her out. Go get out. Let them have took Biden or somebody and kidnapped him. They're gonna get him out. Yeah, fast. I yeah. Even if they charged him with a crime, they're gonna get him out. I don't think she's gonna do nine years. I think they're gonna they're gonna get her out. They have to. There's no way. They need to get out before I do. So do you think oh no? Do you think it's Y'all don't want me to get out? I was gonna say, would you volunteer? Hell no, I ain't gonna volunteer.

I'm saying they better hurt you ain't just hear what I said? I'm gonna phone them. I said what I said. They better get out before before I do. I ain't volunteering. But you will do it if it comes to that. Hopefully not. But they ass better get out. Free that lady, man. Free everybody. That's what I'm trying to say. Everybody, man. Yeah. If one of us suffering, we all suffering. Yeah. That's the point. People locked up for weed. Right. If one of us suffering, we all suffering, man. Do you think to your point? If someone else was in there that they would do this extravagant rescue mission? No, that's what I'm saying. Okay. Shit fool is hell. Everything. So yeah. One of us suffering, all of us suffering. But the third part of that part is one of us suffering, and all of us suffering, and most of us don't get a fuck unless it affects us directly. Yeah. So yeah, whatever. I ain't here for solutions. I'm just here to just say to provoke thought that my folks should sometimes think about shit like that instead of just the whatever meme going on. Sometimes I'm just here to break the third wall real quick and then get back into my box and let people ask me about what it's like to work with Jay-Z, all that type shit.

Mm-hmm. Salute to Jay-Z. So what's it like to work with Jay-Z? On phone number. You know what I'm saying? But like, yeah, it's really amazing to work with Jay-Z. Jay-Z is a legend and an icon and an inspiration to us all. So yeah, I mean. But he's free. Well, yeah, so honestly, outside of He is free. You know, I do want to get back to some of the music stuff, but I am kind of curious. Like, clearly, that's been weighing on your mind. Like, what what other types of like things that are going on are you actually like wanting to speak on and like you know, passionate about? You know, what have you been kind of talking about with your you know, close, close friends, your loved ones, right? Like, you know, what's what's been engaging you recently outside of like that situation, you know what I mean? Shit. Disney World was a great place. Did you go recently? Yeah. With your uh kids? Yep. Okay. It was a great place. Yeah, how they like it. They liked it a whole lot. Um it was raining a whole lot. I lost some some Versace shoes. On like a like a float ride or something?

No, just walking. Like in the river. We were walking, and then next thing you know, out the blue on the beautiful and sunniest day. It started raining like on Forrest Gump. Like, like the kind of that come. Remember, he was saying, You got some rain that just jump up and bite you in your head like a bullet, bite you in your head. I don't know. that rain was hard as hell. The rain was coming up from the ground. That shit fucked up all our shoes. I had to throw away all our shoes and get them more. But they shoes a little bit cheaper, man, at them type of shoes because they kids. So boom, let's replace y'all's boom. But damn. Those Versace's dope. Versace's dope. Don't phone them. Quavo was upset. I could feel him upset from somewhere far just because it's Versace. Versace. Versace. Versace. Quavo Shed a tear, miles away. Versace. Don't phone them. Was there like a Quavo lookalike cloud in there in the sky? Quavo had the the Jordan meme in the sky. Like, damn, man. Versace. Versace. Medusa. Don't mean like I'm a lunatic. I'm phone number.

I clearly not even Illuminati, because if I was, wouldn't I have kept my Versace? I'm phone them. Right. Yep. We just busted the Illuminati doesn't exist. Was that your first time to Disney? Yep. Really? It was a milestone in my life. Wow. What is it like going as an adult? I've never been as an adult. I only went when I was world or late. I ain't never been as an adult. When you got kids, you a fucking kid. You gotta listen to them and see where they finna go or not. If you ain't all right, if you got kids and you think you're an adult, all right, how about this? When they with you, try this. Just bust out and leave. Oh, trust me, You can't. I have an 11-week. You ain't no adult no more. I have an 11-week old son. I get it, man. Yes, ain't no adult. My whole life has turned on its fucking head. They're an adult and you're the kid now. Yeah. Yeah. Don't fuck them. You gotta make sure that they straight. You gotta make sure when they with you, you know, ain't no, ain't no adult. So I ain't go to Disney World as an adult. I went to Disney World. As a giant job. Yeah, way better than going as an adult. Yeah.

I went with my with my love of my life. You feel me? So it was way more fun than if I'd have gone with my homies or a girl or something like. How were the lines? It wasn't long for me. I had that thing. You got the fast pass. Anybody who's finna go to Disney World, do not go there without that. Let's say you thinking, I want to go to Disney World, but I don't got no money to get that. Save up a little more and then go, G. Don't go yet. Don't go. Don't do it. Fast pass. Oh phone them great. Don't do it. Oh, and and I mean, once you go fast pass, you can't go back. Cause I I went to six Flags. I went to Six Flags and I got the Fast Pass for the first time. Bro, you better believe every single time it was Fast Pass. I'm gone fast. Just laughing at those people in the regular line. Y'all are spoiled, man. Spoiled now. But it's like two hour waits sometime, man. for a fucking ride. And Some of them rides be like 30 seconds. Yeah. Exactly. I can if I'm in a group of friends as an adult, then I could go without a pass. Cause we're gonna be all laughing, drinking, yeah, talking shit while we waiting in line, kicking it.

But if you were the kid, who finna be like, yeah. Is we finna go. Yeah. We finna go. I ain't gotta pee. None of that. You don't want to go with children, bro. That shit over with when you ain't got no pass pass. No fun. Fast pass only. I'm probably just gonna make a song called Disney World or something, and then give away a fast pass or two to some fans or something on some contest shit. I like that. Just because that's fire. It's a good idea. That sounds dope. See, that's what I meant. God just be saying the ideas. I ain't think of that. Don't fucking know. Hello. He's just a vessel. He's a vessel. So back to the music a little bit. I don't want to bore you. Yes, sir. This is your story. Yes, sir. You've done a lot of cool shit in music that people need to fucking hear about it. Let's hear it. Let's do it. We talked about it. Malik Youssef. Yeah. Probably the first time I heard him was on Sin City, and it changed the record for me completely. Like it just catapulted it. It was already an amazing record, of course, but it just catapulted it into another fucking stratosphere.

Like, how important has he been to your trajectory? And you know what I mean? He's one of the most important people in my whole life ever. Yeah. Yeah. He's like more of like a father figure type person to me. He put me into a lot of information that I ain't know. We from the same place in Chicago, the Wild Hunters, the South Side. Um he taught me a lot of shit about music, life, type shit. Like when I started knowing him, he started just putting me down, like introducing me to people that I would have never probably met until a long time later or ever. We will never know that out to the universe because he was so important in my life and many people's life. You know what I'm saying? He don't get enough flowers in my opinion. He really does though. He didn't get hella Grammys, hella Emmys, hella fly clothes, hella fly airplanes, everything. He's really one of them niggas and been there for a long time. But we all feel like he can never get enough flowers, I'll say. So he's the goat. Yeah, so like he's the godfather of Chicago.

You see how I just got to get that, yeah, drill father for my new project or something. He the godfather of a whole city type shit. Yeah. Is it so he's that well respected amongst all corners of the city and definitely the world, really. Oh, yeah, that too, but Chicago for sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, absolutely. So I mean, on the whole, like outside of the music tip, like just him as a person, you know, what are some of like the life you know what I mean? Like, you know, if you were to speak on what he has taught you, like, you know, you know, what are some of those like non-musical related, like, things? I say this. Most things I even just say or how I even think at all most of the time, is a direct derivative of some shit that's probably he said to me a long time ago or taught me a long time ago. It ain't even like something I'm just gonna blurt out an exact word or something. It's just like I try to be an example of a living breathing thing of all the raw shit that I learned from my OGs in general. Yeah. So just I live it and speak it and just act like that. It's more of a framework. Yeah, I like I learned how to dress raw because he was always a part of the clothing world, fashion world. You know, he used to own MCM, like from Chicago, like, you know, like so.

I learned a lot about fashion and clothes. And I mean, I obviously dress better than every human. Most humans, just how I just am. Facts. Although I I could see how that could have been influenced by him, though. I dress better than most humans. Huh? Well, you know I feel like he could wear a fit like that for sure. He definitely could I don't know. Yeah, definitely. I learned a lot from him and Kanye and like Demna and people like that when it comes to clothes and stuff like that. My nigga vision Lord. Like, I be learning about all that type of stuff. Uh, and growing into it better. So I learned a lot from Malik, bro. Like, who do it to us, you know? Like, I learned that a lot. Who do it to us? That's a life philosophy of Malik's. Who do it to us? We did. Stop making excuses. Just do your shit. Shout out to Malik. Wow. So, like, yeah, having that kind of like hunger and drive, just as a person, as well as like in the music shit, like that kind of thing. Yeah, serve your highest resource. There's so many things I could just blurt out there. I just learned from him.

Like, yeah. He the GOAT. Wow. Join the bad kids class. Yeah. And you'll learn a lot from him too. Pop in, pop in. Nice. Have you taken on the role of OG to anyone yet? My whole life. Okay. But is there anyone like specific in music yet that you've kind of, you know, taken under your wing now? Like, you know, like Malik did to you? Music. Music. I took music under my wing. Listen to the UK. Listen to everywhere. This is where it all come from. The shit we doing. Yeah. Shit we done. So yeah. So more of like unknowingly influencing a lot of people versus. Annoyingly, these motherfuckers be taking it sometimes. Pause. Like they ass be taking themselves of what we be doing at times. And I don't mean it disrespectfully. I mean this is just a natural process that happened. We are the people that's in the forefront of the influence of what the fuck is going on. How people stand, how people take pictures, how people dress, the type of music they want to make. We definitely influenced a lot, just like New York did when it came to hip-hop when they had their runs and shit. Yeah.

Is that more frustrating or flattering? You know? Is that like oh, it's flattering shit? Yeah. It used to be frustrating some days. It depends on how broke I am today or something back in the day. Like if I'm sitting here in a trap and shit, or whatever, not trapped. I ain't never been no side, no trap ever. I ain't I don't know what that is. On record. Yeah, none of that shit. But if I'm sitting here fucked up, or something broke as hell, then... And I'm watching people be. Other people be off of the earphones. Nigga, we me and DJ L got there was putting together drum patterns and shit. I'm seeing them do the drum patterns, same exact drum patterns. You feel me? And they ass getting that different lifestyle, you know. Maybe some days it could be, I won't say frustrating, it'd be more motivating to just continue to go up. Like when you do something that go past you, you gotta go get up with it. Well, I'm gonna, you know, I'm going, I'm doing that. So okay. Yeah, it's all good. No, I could definitely see what you're talking about as far as like seeing people kind of like biting the style or like biting the influence, and you feeling like at first some type of way. Learning from it, getting influenced by it.

Yeah, you're gonna say biting. Nah, for sure. They give homage at all. Yeah, you don't give homage, that's biting. Yeah, yeah. Not for sure. And I think hip-hop specifically is I mean, it was born from doing that sampling of their music. Exactly. So I feel like that is almost like embedded inevitably in the yeah, the culture and the music, you know what I mean? It's the whole steel-like and artist type of thing. Yeah, so you know, Malik ends up bringing you to play, you know, music for Ye, right? Yeah. How did you feel walking into that? Right? Like Jesus. Yeah, like walk us through. Were you even nervous at all? Were you overly confident? Like, you know, talk to us about like what your thought process was going into that first, you know, kind of session. I wouldn't have been nervous if I ain't heard if I ain't already just see him talking and interacting with people first. Cause I feel like what was he doing? Just I felt that he was just more regular or something, just chilling like a person. So that's what made me feel like, all right, man, he's an artist. He's sensitive about his shit, just like everybody else.

Cause I seen him ask people like when I first played music for Kanye. At first, he played music for me first. Oh, wow. But his humility and how he played the music and was getting that. So what y'all think about this? It wasn't cocky or none of that. It wasn't like, I know y'all know this shit hard. It was more like, see, what you think, bro? Well, no. Wow. All right, let me know. Like, all right, no, he really sensitive about his shit. Like how all us is like to some degree, you know? Yeah. So that kind of like broke the barrier down a little bit. Look at it like that. Like, I looked at it like, all right, somebody from Chicago, right? from the crib, like, What we doing? Yeah, if you would have walked into like a silent boardroom and him be like, click play, it would have been a little more intense. Yeah. But just kind of seeing him like He's a real dude. Yeah. He a real dude. He's just a really uh actual person. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. So I mean, you end up working on Donda. I'm not gonna quiz you on which records you were on because we already talked about most of them bitches. Yeah. there's a lot.

Yeah, for sure. A lot of them bitches, most of them. So when someone was in Jonah, couple Grammys for Hurricane, right? Yeah, off the grid. And got some vibes and Jesus Lord, motherfucker. See, he does know him. He he he he told us he couldn't. He's not gonna get the full list. I've been practicing. Okay. He researched for this. Yeah, yeah. He was checking out the credits on the ride over, making sure he remembered which ones he was on. Yeah, I've been practicing. Yeah, I think that's a good thing. Well, you're doing great. I saw you were in the uh the iconic little room in Mercedes Benz Stadium, too, where he was posted up working on shit there. Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, yeah, working on that shit. Yeah, so like just originally when he invites people to work on a project like that, right? Because obviously you were one of many that kind of got brought into this, you know, you know, writer, producer, artist world, right? For the project. Um there's a lot of people that had 88 keys, people that I learned from in that process. Yeah, 88.

But like, how does he set the stage for what this thing is gonna be? Does he like bring everyone in a room and be like, here's the vision, or does he like one by one sit with you or not even? Because he already be always doing it. He already be doing, he don't let everybody know at once. Okay. So you might come in and you you pull up like, oh y'all already been working on this, yeah. So now you getting brief. They just hitting you with the fouls or something, like, yo, listen to this. And then you just like I bet, and then you see what you can add to it or something. Or Kanye's gonna ask you what what he wants you to do, or did he have a specific thing? Did he have a specific thing that he wanted from you? You know, like was there a reason he brought you in, like a sound or uh something in particular? Well, he knew I had made up uh drill patterns, and he knew like I was very instrumental instrumental in that sound. He knew he wanted to have that influence. That was one thing. He knew he wanted to kind of like learn a little bit of that energy to mix in with what we're doing, and he wanted to be genuine. He didn't want to like bring in only people that inherited it the sound.

He wanted to bring in the sources of these places and things. You know, you know. So instead of bringing just only people that was a descendant of electronica style or something, he brought the Electronica. Right, you know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, he can do that. Straight to the source. Exactly. So he brought me to help with certain things like that and write the lyrics and do right, like just help with shit. Yeah. So I'm Fix, kinda fix, like, like, just help. Sometimes it don't even be about like what you finna do all the way sometimes, but bro. It'd be about like just connecting. Like just like bouncing ideas. It's just like a regular person. I'll tell you, like, let's say you call him. Sometimes y'all might just bounce ideas off each other or you know, brainstorm and literally did that yesterday. Put together ideas. And the day before. Like, oh, that's hard. Matter of fact, yeah, that's hard. Or something like that. Like, yeah. But is everyone that you work with that way? Because everyone's got to have different styles, right?

He seems, I mean, you know, you're kind of describing Ye as a very like open and like transparent person. Of course, some of the public eye wouldn't maybe be surprised by that. But like, is everyone that you kind of. If he fuck with you, I don't know how he is to everybody, or something. Yeah, but I don't know how it is to the squad type shit. Yeah. I mean, like, you specifically, he he rock with me. I appreciate that He shout me out. Like, he be showing love. I'll show him love. Like, he got this part on his song that's probably that's coming out soon, like with him in the future. He can inspire the drill shit. I feel like fire, man. Ooh, the drill shit. I feel like fire, man. He got a hook like that or something. So it's direct shout-out. Yeah. That's heat. So it's just love, bro. Yeah. So the revenge of the dreamers sessions that happened here in Atlanta for the Dreamville people. Like, I'm wondering, we've had a bunch of people on that were there for those sessions. Tons of artists, producers, songwriters, whatever, right? In these, like in this week-long camp or whatever. How does that compare to kind of like what the energy and vibe was like with like the Donda sessions, right?

Was it like chaos where tons of people were coming in and out, or was it like a little more calm and controlled, or like, you know, paint us the picture of like what those. it was all that shit. Yeah. It was simple, complicated, crowded, not that many people. It just depends on the moment. Sometimes it might be a small room with just Kanye and two people right there. Or sometimes it might be we all just trying to get people's opinion on the music. So we just say, hey, we're gonna have a backyard party. And then we just had a fucking whole arena packed out. Oh, shit. Oh, god. Everybody listened to the songs for the first time before they even hardly done. Like we, it was an open process. He got his own way to do it. I don't even know how to understand his process. I just be there for it whenever I'm there for it. Like, you'll have to ask Photon. I don't know. We'll have to get Ye on the pod for sure. For sure. Maybe we can. Maybe we can try to get him. If you want to help us set it up, set it up, man. We're open to it. Hell yeah. I'm gonna ask them next time I see you. Let's go. Yeah, it's it's interesting, right?

Because I look at a producer and a songwriter as having to be very like adaptable, right? And like almost like like water, right? Where you're able to kind of like flow with the different waves that are these like artists that you're working with. Is that how you kind of treat yourself? Like as as well, you know, like just being very flexible and like adaptable, right? Like, is that a big part of what you have to do as like a songwriter and producer? Hell yeah. It seems like it was less that though, with Ye, because he brought you in for a certain task. There ain't no certain task. You gotta just find out what your task is too. He gonna give you, he gonna ask you a certain task, but if you here, you gonna just do that task, or you gonna you gotta think about it. I just did like hella records on Donda. You think he was calling me in there to do all them records at once? No. The shit started off probably as like, all right, then you gotta take initiative and try to just see what's up. Like it was like a triple double for us. Yeah.

We was able to really win with that album, Donda. Like that album is still special very much and it's uh eternal. I'll never forget the uh listening party in the dome. The greatest rollout in music history. Insane ever. Insane rollout. Holy shit. Yeah. So I'm classic. It's like we just was, man, a nigga was there for thriller or something in the 80s. I don't know. I was there. I seen, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, it's definitely gonna be, you know, a historical moment. Some of my great, great grandkids. Yeah, for sure. When I bought them a fucking boat or something, because all I'm doing is just going up, up, up. Yeah. So, you know, we've talked a little bit about the songwriter and producer nature of like your story, but obviously you're an artist, you're kind of in artist mode, I feel like you know, as of recent, you know, you're really kind of focusing on yourself. Yeah. Back, baby. The fine man is back. How does that feel? It feels great. Yeah. My plan coming together. I took a step back. Was this calculated?

Yeah, I took a step back. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I took a step back because I felt like I needed to just like build more resources and more resources to be able to pull it. Cause this shit ain't no talent show. Well, I would already just been number one every week for the last twelve 10 years or something, probably. It takes more than that. All right, I'm gonna say number two just in case Hov put out some more. But on god, if it was a talent show, I'd already just be number one every day, every week. Yeah. There's more to it than that. Yeah, it's more than that. It ain't about talent show. So you gotta know the right people, how the right budgets and resources and all type of shit. Yeah. Especially if you're a person like me. I'm not no gimmick. I'm not no clout chaser. I'm not finna. I'm not about to do all that gawk gawk 3000 shit. You know what I'm saying? To get to get on, you know. So I wanted to get success before I got cloud and shit. I wanted to get actual success first and then let all the other shit.

So I really just wanted to just take a step back and focus on my other aspects of my career, focus on just myself as a person, focus on just being a better father, being a better person. Yeah. Because everything ain't about rap. Sometimes you gotta live this shit for real and then rap or something. Niggas be rapping, bro. They be rapping they ass off, rapping, rapping, rapping, rapping. But you look up, they ain't never did none of that shit. They rap about, or they ain't never been around none of that shit. They ass don't be living that shit, that shit, not living with their rap on front of them. like dudes said from no limit. They ass not living they raps. And shout out to G Herbo. I ain't talking about him on front of them. But his ass definitely living with he raps. And shout out to G Herbo. I'm working on his new album too. Shout out to G Herbo. So how much do you identify with Ye's like story in the whole like, I'm a producer, but I wanna be an artist now. Is that kind of like where you're at now or not? really? I identify with it on some shit like, man, He made it seem like it was easier, though. What from the documentary? Oh god, his whole life made it look like it was gonna be easier now. I tried to, I bet, try to do it too.

Here I am, later as hell finna get on now, finally on. He I thought it was gonna be way easier, but I ain't have hope. Yeah, he was already just doing home shit, you know what I'm saying? But I'm just saying, like, I thought it would be easier based off what not easier, but just a little more faster, but yeah, quicker. Yeah. He got on, he was producing. Next you know, bow! Superstar Kanye. I'm like, I bet. Produce, produce, produce, produce waiting on that bow. Now it's finally like, bow, fight, man. You know what I'm saying? So I thought it'd be a little easier, but his method did work, it's working for me. Yeah. But I mixed my own way with it or something. Yeah. How do you stay patient like that? that blueprint that I tried to follow, which is like be a producer and a songwriter and shit like that, and then also be an artist. You know, that's working for me, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. How do you be patient though? Like, you know, are you? I get high. I just focus on life. I don't- yeah. I ain't trying to- People be too thirsty, bro. That's what it is.

That's facts. They be doing everything except the work. So I just been working, bro. Put my head down and work. And focus on being a person in the violin. I just went skydiving. Like, I'm doing shit besides. You went skydiving? Yeah. Don't fool them. Was that your first? First time? Yeah, that was my first time. Was it scary? I'm like terrified. Hell yeah, that shit was scary. Yeah. Man. Until I did it. Damn, where'd you do that? Huh? Undisclosed location. Okay. Yeah, the ops are coming for your skydiving location. Oh God. That is hell. Okay. But so like, I don't know. Talk to like what made you want to do that? Had you always wanted to do that? Hell no. I ain't want to do it ever. I thought, hell no. So who convinced you to do that? Is that why you do it though? Sometimes you gotta just do the shit you don't want to do. To do it. That? That's a big one. Somebody, I don't like. All right.

I be riding roller coasters sometimes every blue moon if I go to Six Flags. Okay. Right? I don't ride no damn roller coaster at no carnival, though. Mm-hmm. Don't ride things at carnivals, Paul. Don't do it. Because they going to just fall off. It's a carnival, G. Yeah. This ain't no, this ain't six flags. This ain't. Don't be getting no rides at a carnival because you're gonna fall, G. It's cheap. They've been lugging it around to other cities. and shit. This bitch loose as hell. Rusty ass. Y'all ass, tweak it. Don't do that. Don't fuck them. Don't do it. Yeah, I don't trust carnivals. But anyway, I have many times rolled roller coasters in non-carnivals. And times where I did that, I noticed, you know, when you get to the bottom part, like, that part, your stomach, you your body going this way, your stomach going this way. You getting that on your stomach.

Yeah. Yeah. So somebody told me that when you do skydiving, it don't do that. So I'm like. That sounds like the biggest lie. Exactly. But somebody who I who I believe wouldn't lie at all said it, and that's when I'm like, oh damn, they might be telling the truth. So I feel like now, especially now that I just did it, and I won't lie. This this the big hoolie we talking about. I ain't gonna lie to y'all. Don't guide don't do that to your stomach like a roller coaster. Really? Yeah. So what does it feel like? Not that. So, in other words, so what I'm saying is a roller coaster ride at Six Flags is way more extreme or excruciating than actually skydiving. It's just on TV, they make it feel like that shit more wilder. It's looks, it's gotta be Bro, I'm getting anxiety thinking about it. Exactly. If you scared of heights, then no. Yeah. But if you ain't scared of heights, see for me, I'm not scared of heights. The only thing, reason why I would never skydive, is because of that stomach shit. Okay, you thought it was gonna be like 15 minutes.

straight of that. Once I found out, It wasn't no stomach shit. Come on, we gone. On phone, we gone. So it really wasn't. No. Wow. I I felt like it was a Mythbusters. Or something. I felt like a little kid, like, can we go back up? No. Really? It's my new passion. I'm doing it a lot now. Wow. I'm dropping my project, Drill Father, from the sky. Amazing. Serious. Amazing. Amazing. Niggas be dropping their project and that shit flop. So I'm gonna drop my shit from the top. From the top. 10,000 feet. Hello. So tell us about the upcoming project. Way from 10,000 to 6,000 feet is when you gotta put the thing down and be like, that's when you gotta pull. So tell us a little bit about the upcoming project. Like, you know, what can we expect sonically, themes, lyrically, right? Like, you know, tell us a little bit about it. It's the best music on planet Earth. So. That's all you need to know, man. It go hard. It make you want to dance, and every other thing that you would want to do that you like.

Wow. You wanna eat, it's gonna make you wanna eat. You wanna dance, it's gonna make you wanna dance. You wanna get some top from a bitch? It's gonna be the perfect soundtrack for that. It's just the greatest song ever. It's three songs. On phone numbers three is a magic, good ass number. I agree. H-O-L. And that's three, see, boom. Three letters. He just, yeah, he just came up with that. On phone. So it's a really amazing EP. It's part one of our series on God. And uh, it's amazing. It's uh, it's uh it's it's paying homage to something that uh you know that took on a life of its own. Yeah. Do you produce your own shit always? Mostly, but I got in-house producers, K Cash. I got, you know what I'm saying, Edog, I got Corlin Jabray, I got Killers with me. You know what I'm saying? Got people that be producing the tracks with us, like scales and like all these different people who who work with us. Not a lot, but different people like that. Rosard and Kid Wanda. Like, we got our own tight-knit group of people.

Yeah. Anything else you want to uh make sure that people are tapping into? Shit. I want them to tap into uh everything that's coming up that I want them to tap into. I'm just playing. That's just what you just said. I just said it again, another word in another voice. You feel me? I feel you. But uh yeah, I want them to tap into my Instagram into my put subscribe to all my stuff. So that way you could just automatically already be tapped in. You know what I'm saying? Um turn on notifications. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, turn on your notifications and smash the bell. Yep. Smash that like button, all that shit like on YouTube. I'm phoned out. Yeah. Yo, you start a YouTube channel. Hello, I already have one. That's what I'm telling them. They need to understand that's where the videos be going to on YouTube, on phone them. Go on there, spam the comments. You know, I can't wait till people see the live shows, the next live shows and events. No, I don't have an exact date for one of them just yet. But everybody know how my shows get.

It's like that every time. Um I can't wait to see y'all again soon. I'm talking to all the fans that be at the shows, all the new fans that have become a fan since I last done a show. We can't wait to see y'all. Got them. Um, yeah, what is a five-man show like? It's gonna be some very gorgeous ass females. It's gonna be some very real ass niggas. It's gonna be some very like nerdy motherfuckers that's taking pictures and shit. It's gonna be some all type of cool stuff going on. We're gonna be getting high. we're gonna be having fun. It's gonna be a mosh pit probably. They turn it up. They they acting crazy. We got a good fan base. I focus that mostly on my whole shit, the fans and people that support me. That's the main thing. Yeah. Absolutely. That's who we do it for? Well, Henry, we've entered a final segment of the One More Time podcast. How long? Uh-oh. This is where it gets real fun. You mentioned you've seen a couple episodes. I don't know if you watched them to the end, but this is the Rapid Fire Rampage. Okay.

It's gonna be a three-part rampage. Rapid fire. Rapid fire rampage. That's what it was. So this one will be called It's Good. Yeah. Yes, sir. So first part, I'm gonna just hit you with some short answer questions real quick. Second part, I'm gonna do a this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. Just pick one. You can do with this or you can do with that. Exactly. Yep. And then the final part's a word association. I'm gonna say one word, you know, like dog, and then you say one word right back at me. So starting off with the short answer, episode 68 with the fireman. You have the world's attention for 10 seconds. How do you pitch Fireman to the world? What would you say? Shit. I'll say whatever gonna make them think some bad shit. Because that's what like they like in this fucking world. Some bad shit. I'll make them think I'm dumb as hell. Like, ask y'all to y'all, never mind. I'll just some viral shit. Yeah, I'll just say some dumb shit.

If I wanted the attention, but I don't be wanting attention. Okay. Okay. If you were a beverage, what would you be? The kind of your bitch drink. No, no, that's great. answer. Perfect answer. Great answer. You can have dinner with three people, alive or dead. Who are you having dinner with? Alive or dead. Any three people on earth ever existed. Or Mars. Yeah. It's easy. My three children. That's what I'm having dinner with. Beautiful answer. Hashtag good dad gang. That's right. Yep. What is your favorite thing to do to get your mind off of music? Skydive now. This guy's a professional skydiver. Yeah. No, for real. This is kind of a philosophical question. Is a thumb a finger? Hell no. It's it's to support the other fingers on phone number. It's a supporting.

rule. Because you can't just pick up stuff with these. You need this just to just for reference. Yeah. We just need that for a frame of mind. Okay, no. This is a list of hinge. It's a hinge. Period. So the third biggest. I just said period. You like black girls, You been with some black girls in your life, huh? Period. Is that exclusive to black girls? Yes. Okay. Sorry, I'm not. And Henry. Apparently I use it too. Black people be saying, period. You know? Did I say it like that? Yeah. Basically. A little bit. You say, yes, bitch. All right. All right. Moving on. Moving on. The third biggest ever Mega Millions was just hit recently. If it was you, and I think the winner was actually in Illinois. It's Illinois. I know it. So if you don't tell anyone, because I know they stayed anonymous, but if it was you, what would you do with that money? Like a couple of just the first things off rip. The first thing I would do, 400 plus mil. Just like Shit. I just put out my next, I just put some into my new project Drillfather.

My new single, Kanye West. Most expensive rollout. Coming out soon. Yeah. My rollout is gonna be just like I bet something to marvel at. To marvel at in a world. Oh phone. I'm turning my shit up. We in theaters with it now. In the world. On phone. Hello. Yeah. That's great. I mean, yeah, music video premieres at all the AMC theaters. I mean, Regal. It's good. Shit. Let's make it happen. Moving on. If you could be any age forever, what age would you be and why? I'd probably be this age right here, forever. How old are you? This age. But this is exactly where I'd be forever right now. The feeling that I feel right now, I'm just to the point where, like, I think I just for I'm like one. one, like, couple yards away from money, more money, more money, more problems. Like not there yet. I'm

Just not fucked up enough to feel depressed because of how fucked I am. And I'm just not there to see all the fucked up ugly. I'm finna have to see what people I love the most. It's the perfect in between. Yeah. I like it. I like it. Moving on. On average, how many times do you look at a text before you respond to it? If I respond to it, which probably ain't. I'm gonna look at it a couple times because I might look at it and then respond in my head and then later respond or something. It's like two or three kind of range. I don't like to text. I'd rather you just call me, I call shit like that. People call me, I call my friends, they call me. Boom. I like to text just to like send the Addy. Shit like that. Not like an actual conversation. Yeah. Makes sense. So what are three things that we will find in your fridge right now? Bacon soda. I got bacon soda. I'm broke as fuck.

I don't got nothing but bacon soda in that bitch. Three three boxes of bacon soda. Bacon soda. That's in that bitch. Shout out to OT. Um you have to donate a body part to science. Which part, which body part do you donate? It don't really matter because once I'm done there, I'm already dead, ain't it? I don't know. I didn't specify that in the question. I don't know. It's a good question. It's actually a good question. True. So all of them. I'm not donating none of that shit, but just for the sake of the question, it don't matter because I'm already dead anyway. Boom. Last one of the short answer. Take my stem cells. Ooh, yeah. I don't know where the fuck those are. They're valuable. Where are they? Apparently. On Phonos. Yeah. I don't know where. Take the stem cells. I don't know which stem is a stem. Where's your stem? On Phonos. Is that your dick cells? Exactly. What's a stem? What the fuck is a stem? Oh fuck no. Alright, but yeah, oh god, that's the question.

Okay, so dick cells was the summarized answer. I think that's the official answer. I'm going to have to take my stem cells so they can help others. Okay. I like that. I like that. Last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? Bitch. Part one of the rampage. Part one. Pretty good. Dick cells in there. Bitch, go crazy. Bitch, it's fire. Bitch, go crazy. Bitch, it's fire. It's a very versatile one. It's a great one. Can't go wrong. Moving on to the this or that. I'm give you two choices. Pick your favorite. Here we go. Rapping or producing? Both. Slow beats or fast beats? Fast. Stacks or ad libs? Adlibs. Snares or claps? Neither. Ooh. Like a rim shot kind of guy or a snap? Yeah, that either no drums or rim shots. Okay. Keys or strings. Keys. Keys more percussive. That's more fun to dance to.

Keys. Okay. Have a child every year for 15 years or have no kids. That's a tough question. I already got kids. So pretend like you're starting to move. have a child every 15 years. I ain't giving up my children already. I'm gonna go get a box of cigarettes, never come back. No, this ain't that. No fun of my love, my babies. There you go. Have 14 fingers or 14 toes. Next question. You can either talk to your dog and your dog understands you, or you can understand your dog. I would like to understand these bitches. And I would like to be understood by these bitches wholeheartedly. Instead of just motherfuckers just act like they understand me so they can kick it so they can still hang around me. And really, they just want attention or something. That's how life is, you know what I'm saying?

So yeah, I would love to be able to talk to these bitches and understand understand them. They actually understand me. I love it. Totally flip that one around. I love it. You can either A. I'm going through something right now. I can feel it. I can feel it. So get puked on by Taylor Swift on camera or lose two weeks of your life. Lose two weeks of my life. Just fuck those two weeks. It's not happening. Especially because at the end of my life. I ain't know it was gonna be them in anyway. So would I even know I lost the two weeks? Fuck them two weeks. I already been lost in two weeks of my life. I ate ooze and noodles hella times. noodles hella times. Okay. So are you going with all of your photos leaked or all of your texts? Photos. They can have them. Move to China or move to Alaska. Alaska. Eat an apple with every meal or never eat apples again. Eat an apple with every meal.

Keeping the apples. Last one of the this or that. This is to gauge your risk tolerance. You have either a 90% chance of making a platinum album or a 50% chance of making a diamond album. How risky are we feeling? Say it again. I don't even get the question. Put unpopped. Undo the fucking thinking music. No jeopardy music. Right quick. Dan, put it on. Let me think of music. One more time. One more time. Ah, yeah, like that. I don't know. You have a 90% chance of a platinum album. So almost definitely guaranteed shot you're gonna make a platinum album. Or a 50-50 shot at getting a diamond album. So less likely, but higher status. I'm gonna say 50-50 shot with a diamond because I already have platinum albums. True. You're trying to break through to that next level. I love it. Part two of the rampage. Part two. Moving on to the final portion. This is the word association.

We having platinums. Got them already. Hello. Done. So this part, I'm gonna shoot one word at you, and you just shoot one word right back at me off the top of your head. Alright. Simple as that. Rampage! Starting with hip hop. It's dead. I'm just playing. That's a good one, actually. Hospital. Syringe. Education. Group education. Oh, sorry. Train for being in the workforce slavery. Okay. Okay. TikTok. Vine. Nothing new in the design. Keep happening again. New names. Green. Too many racks in a day. Yeah. Too many racks in a day. Ah, too many racks in a day.

Go stream that shit. Hello. Strip club. Why is they even calling it P Valley anymore? That's his answer. P Valley fans know what the rest of it is. Yeah, I was like, the punchline to that is. What they should call it now. Funny as hell. Shout out to actors. They very phenomenal in there. Chicken. Robot. Lil. Lil. What? Lil. Say that again? Lil. Like little. Like Lil. Spell it. L-I-L. Where do you think that word came from? Probably from little, but that's not the word. I would have specified if it was little.

No, just fucking with you. It's lil. Go on with Lil. Wayne. Yes. Up. Pop. Hop on pop. This is an interesting one that I already had before we started this, but robot. Chicken. Carlo. Full circle moment. It's amazing. It's amazing. Judge. Judy. Judy. Podcast. Host. Adlib. Lawyer. Public defender. Bitcoin. Dogecoin. Hit only. What a rampage. What a rampage. What an episode. Yo, amazing story. Especially your insights into the whole Brittany Griner, you know, dilemma. That's what I was just feeling. Free her. Free her, man. Free her for sure. But no, in all seriousness, you have really done some amazing stuff in the in the music world.

So I'm glad that we got to give you this opportunity to speak, man, because not enough flowers have been given to you so far. So I can't wait to see what you got next, man. I just want people to know they could do it too. And by it, I mean just get some success. You gotta serve your highest resource. Treat the janitor like the CEO. Just keep grinding, don't give up, don't stop. All that keep faith in God first, you know what I'm saying? Make sure you look up in the sky and thank God for everything he done. You be good, you know. Do unto others or something, all the stuff your grandma and them say say in the Bible or whatever it is that you study. You will be all right. And don't let nobody run over you, try to treat you like a lame or a hoe too much, but still you gotta have your own discern to know when to start. Tweak with people though, too, at the same time. Beautiful, beautiful parting words. Definitely wise words from a wise man, fire man, drill father coming soon. Yes. It's coming September. Yeah, it'll probably be.

Let's get it. September is coming out. Yes, it's up. Absolutely. That's it. That's all. Shout out to Carlos Films. It's a visual experience and it's an EP. It's music and it's visual content. You know what I'm saying? It's on a little movie. It's up. Absolutely. Boom. H3 until next week. What are we doing? Getting out of here. Getting the fuck out of here. Peace. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.