Shad da God Interview: Turbo & Wheezy Collabs | His Cousin TI | Alkaline Vegan -

Recording is all about vibe. The vibe, you know, that shit go up and down. Like that shit can happen in a matter of seconds. I think any type of art is all about vibe. Your vibe ain't right, you're not gonna be able to create. The one more time music podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. We're from being more cooped to pants off, some more distant answer, part one more time. Play that one more time. Play that shit like one more time. Play that one more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. One more time. One more time. I'm looking forward to this one. I'm your host. I'm your host, playback Ben here with my co-host Henry with a three, aka The Trap Jack Black. Trap Jack Black, who we got in the hot seat today, my guy. Oh man. Welcoming in on episode 66. 66. It's a good number. 66 of the One More Time podcast. You did. Super OG straight out of Long Beach, California. It's Snoop D-O-double-G. Have you ever gotten that?

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay. I was a little iffy on whether you looked like Snoop or not. I know. Like some people that like certain pictures on Instagram where I post like certain type of angles and shit. That's where I go. That's where I got it from. Looking at your Instagram. Yeah, they say that nigga look like Snoop Dogg, man. Some shit like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. In all seriousness, we got legendary recording artists out of the A. We got Shad the God in the building. You dig, you dig. And we also have a we also have another one more time alumni in the building. We got Fani. Shout out Fani in the back. But Fani. Brent Faiyaz. Yes, sir. One more time. One more time. Who may or may not have helped get this magical look together. No, yeah, you know. He got them. I always got your input. For sure. He's the guy for that. For sure. So do you identify more as a young gun or an OG? Um, is some people just not hearing me, and some people knew me from way back. So I'm an OG to some people, and to some people, I mean I'm a new a new G. Yeah.

Yeah. That's That's true. Mm-hmm. Who are some of the most like important OGs in your life? OGs in my life. Yeah. My mama, my uncles, um, my aunties, like my big cousin them. And um like in and like a couple more OGs in the street. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So what kind of game they putting you on? Um, everybody put me on a different game. I learned everything. I I learned like different shit from all of them. Tell me different shit. What kind of game they put me on? Yeah. You know, you gotta keep your eyes open, you know what I mean? Shit like that, like awareness, um, just like thought process, period, man, how to break shit down, like, like see shit for what it is. And when you see shit, see what it really is. You know what I mean?

Like some people could look at a house and be like, yeah, that's a house right there. Well, some people can look at a house and be like, I wonder how much that cost you fucking goddamn for that front door in the building and in the grade and land off and goddamn the clear trees and do that shit. You know what I mean? So I like it. So kind of general life stuff that could help in like lots of different aspects. Yeah, for sure. And how about how about some of the people that you're maybe playing OG to? Are there some like you know, new Gs that that that you've kind of taken under your wing, you know what I mean? For sure. Been doing it forever. Yeah. Even when I was a young G, I still was an OG. Okay, so you kind of always had that like OG mentality, even as like a you know, super young kid? Yep, because I got it from the real OGs. Mm-hmm. So, what kind of game are you putting these kids on? You know, that are kind of like I just like, man, I'm like, we be on some just like some positivity type shit. You know what I mean? Try to get them to make every day count and try to not, you know what I mean? I don't I don't promote that crash out shit. You know what I'm saying?

So, you know what I mean? Everything is just thinking. That's what I promote. Thinking, health, all that shit. Take care of yourself, take care of your body. Like, that's the type of shit. Yeah. So I found out in another interview that you are an alkaline vegan, speaking of health. Yeah, for sure. Tell us what's in the the God burger. The God burger. Yeah. God. The only ingredient is God. That's it. No, come on, give us the sauce. What's in the God Burger? Is it a secret recipe? We're trying to get the exclusive. I'm trying to open up. I'm trying to open up a food truck. What is, uh, you can come get the patties from me. We're gonna pre-make the patties and you can come and get your bundles from me. There we go. What is what is an alkaline vegan compared to just a regular vegan? Um, alkaline vegan is like it's basically like foods that have like a certain pH. Because you know, like if it's a low pH, it's acidic. And if it's like seven or above, it's considered alkaline. You know what I'm saying? So, like, especially the foods that were made by God, like not no hybrids and no shit that they done made and put together and shit like that.

No overprocessed nonsense, especially no hell no. So it's basically alkaline is basically the pH though of the food. That's basically what makes some food alkaline or what makes it acidic. Okay. Is it difficult like having that diet, like just going out and about, like eating out instead? Or is it can you yeah? Yeah, that's why I cook most of the time. If you follow me on Instagram and look at my story, I'm cooking every day. Yeah, what are some of your go-tos? I'm risking that patch out. I'm in that patch out every day. We in that patch out. We whipping this shit. Shout out. You know what I'm saying, son? Could we expect some like cooking vlogs maybe on the YouTube channel anytime soon? Yeah, for sure. That's a good idea. I need to do that. Yeah, you definitely have to. Yeah, for sure, for sure. That's dope. Yeah. And like what changes have you noticed like in your either like mental or physical state? Like, you know. Everything, mental, spiritual, physical, everything. Shit powerful. Wow. Yeah. Was it hard? Like transitioning? Um, nah, because I was a pescatarian since 2005.

So I turned to pescatarian when I was like 14, 13, 14 years old. Oh wow. And so goddamn, So that's just like fish, right? Yeah. You eat seafood and all type of shit. So goddamn, You just cut out all the meat. And so like 2018, I went vegetarian when I cut out the seafood. Then 2019 I went vegan. Then like a few months after that, I went alkaline vegan. So I took in the steps. I think that'd be the main part too, goddamn. Like when folk try to do shit cold turkey. Yeah. It don't necessarily work because it's like it should be running the motherfuckers crazy. Be making you crazy. You gotta ease into it. Yeah, so I think I think my transition was the most effective and the way you're supposed to do it, really. Did you ever like want to go back? You know what I mean? Or had you nigga, you smell some goddamn chicken or some shit. Well, I like when I first started eating meat, I used to smell some Chinese food chicken. And that shit would make a nigga goddamn be like, damn, bro, I'm finna eat some of these goddamn mandarin chicken one time and goddamn with the shrimp fried rice motherfucker for sure. But you know what I'm saying?

You just gotta have discipline. Yeah. I was gonna say, I I I feel like that takes a lot like a w of of willpower, right? To refrain from from those smells. Like, have you ever like hallucinated those smells? Yeah, for sure. Like I was at my auntie how one day, goddamn, she was cooking, I think I think she was cooking a goddamn some pork chop. Oh, man. I was like, that was tough. I don't know what type of what the fuck she put in that pot, but them motherfuckers were goddamn smelling good, goddamn. I'm thinking about like family dinners and barbecues and all this stuff. I bring my own food. Okay. Me and my brother Chef D, we bring our own food to the gathering. Does he have the same diet? Yeah. See, I feel like if I could partner up with someone, so if I had someone in it with me, that might make it easier, right? Definitely talk about recipes. Or just who you hang around. Like you hang around a bunch of motherfuckers eating shit that you don't that you try not to eat. Eventually, I believe you might just fuck around and do it. But if everybody on the same shit, then yeah. Yeah, that's definitely true.

I don't think I could do it, man. I couldn't do it. I seriously nigga. That's the first fucking no-no, nigga. You gotta tell yourself you can do it. I know. That sounds so pathetic. Yeah, you talked yourself out of it. Okay, let me rephrase. I don't want to do it. How about that? Not say I can do it. Yeah, I can, but I don't want to. See? How about that? Okay, so you mentioned, you know, kind of feeling like a new artist to some people, right? Like, what do you want the first impression to be for someone that discovers shot to God, had never heard of you before. You're the new artist to them, right? Mm-hmm. how do you want to be perceived? You know what I mean? This nigga hard. Straight up. Hell yeah. Run it, man. Play that shit. Play that again. One more time. One more time. One more time, yeah. man. Otra Vez in Spanish. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I did, uh, hear that you, you know, speak a little Spanish or have incorporated some Spanish lyrics into some songs over the years. I do a little son. Yeah.

You dig what I'm saying. There you go. Um, so like there's so much music out there, right? Yeah, for sure. How how do you cut through the noise though to even get discovered? You know what I mean? Like, what what's your approach? What do you think about like the landscape that you're playing in now? Well, I think it helped me that I have been in the game for as long as I have been in the game. So, you know what I mean? So I got like day one fans who follow my whole journey. So I constantly got their support. They ain't never stopped supporting me. But like you saying, like, you know, the game more political now, you know what I'm saying? More goddamn, it's it's it's business. Like, at the end of the day, this shit big, big, big, big business. So you right, it's it takes a lot. I'm I'm still learning this shit. I ain't gonna lie, man. I'm still a student, man. I'm still trying to, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think you have to always be a student because it's always changing. But like you said, to get through everybody, you gotta do something different. You gotta sound different. And I think that's something that I still offer to the game. Like when people hear me, it's it's something different.

I don't sound like everybody else. That's what I believe. You dig what I'm saying? Yeah. So there's some different shit. You hear something different, you're gonna gravitate to it. So you said most fans though have been like, you know, appreciating the transition and the journey. Have there been any that have like fallen off or like thrown shade at like how you've evolved? You know what I mean? Because it you I mean you've been in the game for a while and clearly you've evolved significantly as an artist, right? Like, have there been people that have kind of Nah, they fucking they feel the same way I feel like it, boy. You keep getting better and better. Like you hard as a motherfucker. Like you been hard, you were hard back then. Now you just hard as a motherfucker. Yeah, One more time. what's changed most, would you say? Um, what's changed most? Yeah. Well, you know, I just learned how to make music better over the years. You dig what I'm saying? Like, you could just listen. I learned with it. I think, okay, what's changed most? I think I know more of what the people want to hear, like more of what they will gravitate toward to now. As I keep going in the game, I'm learning more and more.

Like how to do this shit. You know what I mean? Like you don't gotta, you don't gotta try too hard. You just gotta do that shit the right way. It gotta be attractive. That shit gotta be attractive. Mm-hmm. That's what I think I learned more. Yeah. Like, like, how did you look at it before, though? Like, I was just saying the same way. I thought I was doing what they want to hear. But really, like they have been fucking with my shit. I just think I'm getting better and better. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I ain't I don't think I know what sorry I got there, But you know what I mean? I do think I am better than I was years ago, for sure. For sure. Do you, you know, because you talked about that evolution and that like progression as an artist, you know, in a few other interviews, right? Like, how intentional is it though, getting better? Like, do you sit and think like real critically and like say what you did, you know, maybe something you could have done better, like from your last project, or is it kind of more just like not thinking about it and just it's happening naturally, you know what I mean? I can hear something like when I first do a song and I play it in the car or some shit like that. I can hear something I like I could have did better on the song like that.

But like, past project, no, I don't uh I I be writing because the fans love that shit. I don't I don't go back that far and be like, you know what I mean? Yeah, so you're not like this verse. I could have, you know, you're not like you're not like getting that deep into it. It's more like that deep into it. But like a song I just made recently that's not out yet. I think about that shit. Cause I can't change some shit that's already out. But you saying how I could have changed, how I could have did it better. Nah, I feel like it's done the best as is to the ability of me at that time. Sure. How often do you listen to your older music? You ever go back in the catalog? I know some artists that just don't even listen to their old stuff. Not really, me neither. I don't listen to it. Yeah. I don't listen to it. But like when it comes to a time when I'm finna do a show, like I did the show in New York like last week. I had two shows up there in New York. I start, I had a lot of City of God songs on there. So I started listening to that shit. And like that shit hard. Sometimes I do go back, but rarely though. I really don't.

Cause you know, we be in the studio constantly recording new shit. I guess it's an artist thing. Like, it's some, I don't know how you explain that shit, but artists don't be liking to listen to their old shit. They don't. Because even I be with a I be with an artist and I be like, we might be a gathering or something. I might be playing out of old shit. Cause I was like, that shit hard as a motherfucker. But nigga be like, man, cut that shit out. No, for real. Yeah, for sure. I remember slime, we was goddamn together. Man, I was playing all slime old shit. And I'm like, man, cut that shit out, man. Yeah, goddamn. You know what I mean? Artists are always so obsessed with the new shit. That shit hard. But now I realize I feel the same way. If I was in the spot and they they playing out my old shit, I'm like, man, play some new shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I've heard it described as like the songs are like your children, and then they're like, once they're out, you know, like they're 18 and you gotta let them go, just kind of be in the world. Yeah. After that, you know. For sure. It ain't that.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think about it too much, but now that you asked me that question, yeah, we rarely do listen to that old shit. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like a new day. Cause you know what it is? We don't like thinking back. Like, I don't think niggas like thinking back like that. Cause we steady be trying to get farther. Like, we steady trying to get to the next level. So that shit is just bringing a nigga back. Like, shit, I ain't even, at the level where I want to be at now. But people might be looking like, you nigga, you up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's almost like not living in the past. Yeah. Because like that goes with life too. It work against your it work against your goals down there. Like listening to old shit down there, working against your goals. Like, you're like, hold on, I'm supposed to be doing something else right now? That shit will remind you of some shit you're supposed to be doing right now. Like, hold on, cut that shit off. I just make this phone call. Come try to put this next album out. Yeah. So yeah, that's the type of shit. Why am I reading my sixth grade book reports? I'm in ninth grade now. Exactly. No, that's that's facts.

Well put. You know, so what do you think the benefits are of being an artist in today's day and age versus like when you first came out? And in what ways is it beneficial to be an artist now versus when you started? Well, uh, I think it's the same benefit, man. You get a lot of money, fuck a lot of hoes, got buy a lot of clothes, buy a lot of cars, buy a lot of houses, buy a lot of jewelry, got you know, smoke a lot of weed. I think that shit the same benefit. That has remained the same. That's been a very consistent benefit of being an artist. But I guess like as far as like getting in the game, right? Like if you're an artist in today's day and age, do you think that it's, you know, because I think you kind of touched on, is it easier, is it harder, right? Like, what's your perspective on whether it's easier to break, you know, as an artist now if you just came in versus maybe starting, you know, when you did? Things just different. Yeah. And they break different. I think everything just changed, like, it's just a difference in it.

I don't think, I don't know if it's easier or harder. Cause you know what I'm saying? Like, I can't really tell if it's easier or harder. Yeah, what do you think's changed most? Cause you obviously have kind of seen two different, you know, different generations. Social media, like back then, we used to go goddamn, we used to press up thousands of mixtapes and goddamn either sell them bitches or just pass them bitches out. We were just passing thousands of mixtapes. So of course that's different. Yeah. You know, you didn't have magazines and shit like that. We was in like SSL magazines and shit like that, but niggas ain't really, you know what I mean? That's all that shit is digital now. Now you gotta make Instagram reels. Yeah, Instagram reels. Yep. And they got you goddamn chasing that shit too. That shit like some dope. Yeah. Yeah. That shit crazy. What my views looking like Fiending for the views. What are my views. I know catching a a uh viral moment's gotta feel like a high, right? Um, I guess I ain't I still ain't went viral yet. Still working on that.

Yeah, I I I'm more of a just like I feel like my music, my music do all the speaking, you know what I mean? But I know viral moments come for everybody, but viral moments ain't been getting me where I'm at. I think it's just been the music, my talent and my craft. But shit, when they come, I will let you know. Yeah, yeah. No, most definitely. So your last project, I think that's out was the collab project with eighty-eight waves, right? Yeah, for sure. And that's 88 grams. Yeah. You've also there's been rumors that you might have some other producer collab projects on the way. Yeah, for sure. We got them. Stay tuned. Yep. yep. So we continue. Any hints of who these producers are? Any hints? The biggest producers in the game right now. Okay. Okay. So I mean, just based off of songs done before, I'm gonna throw out Wheezy, Turbo, these type of people, maybe. Shit, I don't know. We're fishing for an exclusive. You don't have to give it to us though. Throw your reel out there, throw your hook out there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, in general, what do you love most about locking in with a single producer or a primary producer on a project? Like, you know, what's that like? It's that that was new to me because like I ain't never did that. Cause like I would just do like just take a year, be recording songs all year and just pick the best songs. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Yeah. But like, you know, locking in with one producer, I think that shit fight too. Cause if I'm locking in with you, obviously you just a phenomenal producer. So of course it's fight to just get in there with one producer and just bang out some songs. That's it. It's just something new I ain't never did before, but I fuck with it. I definitely fuck with it. Yeah, is there a lot more like talking with the producer about like what you're trying to achieve like sonically and stuff? Like, is there a lot more like dialogue that kind of goes into it? No, they already be hard. Producers, they don't even my producers, man, they got them know what the fuck they doing. They got them got the ear, the motherfucking finger, and the wrist.

So you're not even gonna, you don't even trust them unless you if you know you have to trust them before you go in. And then the rest just can flow. My producers got my full trust. I don't gotta tell them shit. Them niggas, them niggas know how to make beats, but them niggas is hard. Do you feel like you are adapting to like what they got, or do you think they're adapting to like what shot the god needs to sound like? You know what I mean? Um, it's like the it ain't no adapting. The chemistry is it should be already there. When I hear a fire beat, I just go crazy on it. I don't I I adapt to like, you know what I mean? It's just everything there. You really I don't really gotta adapt to shit. Yeah, so it's kind of you're picking the ones that like already like vibe really well. So you're not maybe trying to like morph a sound to meet like this certain level of production or anything. It's just kind of like cause they already on that level. So they like like the producers I mess with, like it ain't too much just going through beats. You know how you gotta get in with a producer and run through 10, 20 beats, pick the right one.

It's like, I don't know, it's like everything is already there. It's like God wanted this shit to happen. It's like it's like God controlling this shit. Like we're not even in control. It's like we just moving our fingers, pressure play, and I'm just rapping. It's like that shit just already right there. I don't know how to explain that shit. Yeah. How spiritual are you? Oh shit. Um very spiritual, I guess. Yeah. I mean, just talking about, you know, you know, God kind of playing a role in in like the chemistry and stuff. Like, is that how you kind of view you know life in in general? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, kind of. I don't really feel like I'm in control of shit, to tell you the truth. You know what I mean? I think we just moving like type shit. I don't think, like, you know what I mean? I don't really think I'm in control, tell you the truth. Yeah. It's interesting because like my family, at least my dad's like a super spiritual dude, right? And it's like someone like me, I try and you know, have those types of viewpoints, but like I get anxiety almost like letting it just be decided, you know, that there's like this thing going on that I You want to control shit.

Yeah. That's where Anxiety come from. Is that that's not hard for you? That's my opinion. Oh, that's my opinion. I don't don't give me, no, I don't wanna talk about no topic that might be goddamn affected to the innocent, a certain group of people or whatever. But then what I feel like anxiety come from, trying to control shit that you can't motherfucking control. It's that's a good spot on. That's a good point. Yeah. Sometimes you just gotta just let that shit go. Have have you always been able to just kind of like, you know, roll with the, you know, punches and like deal with you know things very, you know, just kind of go with the flow kind of guys that always been you? Yeah, just be chillin'. Shit, play, you know what I mean? Just be chillin', man. For sure. So for you, you took like what three years in between projects one time, I think, right? Three and a half years, three and a half years. Yep. Obviously between um City of God and God we trust. Three and a half years for sure.

Yeah, how hard is it for you to be ready to release something? Like is that something that has always been tough for you? Um dealing with that um in God we trust shit. That shit, like we, I'm always ready to release something. Like, I got so much music on my hard drive, but like we was just adapting to the game, trying to, we was it was it was more goddamn, it was more business than anything on that one. We was making it take so long, you know what I mean? But like for you, I mean, even mentioning like you know, listening to a song and shit, like are is it hard for you to like feel like oh this is perfect and ready to go? Are you always feeling like you can kind of like you know, do something, you know, better or like change this, change that. Like, are you kind of like over evaluating sometimes or or not really? Um it's like it's just a feeling you get. You know, it's like I don't it's like it's just it's a feeling you get when you know it's time to drop. Like in my past, like now we've been on some like constantly working and just scheduling and planning shit now.

But like in the past, like it just was a feeling when you know it's time to drop, you like, no, we gotta drop. Like the fans, of course, they ho they on your ass. They on your ass. Of course. I could be the jet drop some shit last week. Wow, you need to drop something out by that motherfucking 88 grand hard. We need to drop that 89 grand. Right? You know? The sequel. Yeah, for sure. But goddamn, nah, it's just a feeling you get. And then it's like when you be like, okay, we got no material. Like you be running through them songs. You be like, okay, I have 15, 13, 15 straight bangers that undeniable. Nigga, we need to drop a motherfucking project. And like when so much time goes by, you just know you need to drop another project. Do you wait until you have the undeniable tracks? Or do you what you do you just have to drop something eventually? Nah, I wait. I don't just gotta drop shit. Yeah. No, I wait till the till I got the undeniables. Like for this project we're working on now. We trying, like, they like, I ain't gonna lie, they like my music more than I like it.

I don't, you know what I mean? I be feeling like I don't have the whole thing, a whole goddamn album full of undeniables. But it's like my team around me be like enlightening me and letting me know, nigga, that song is hard. Like for 88 Grams, like motion. I wasn't even thinking about like putting that song on there. I used to just pass that song. Like when I be riding in the car playing all my new shit, it was something about motion. I wasn't really fucking with it. Man, it's like the hardest song on 88 Grams. So I be listening to um my team and my people around me too, for sure, for sure. Is this like the biggest example of it? As far as like a song that you personally didn't fuck with that clearly was like one of the you know biggest songs on the project. Every project, it's happening. There's always one. Yeah, every project, that shit go like that for sure. It's interesting. I listen to the producers for sure. And I listen to my, I listen to my young niggas, and I listen to, I just listen to my team. I listen to my surroundings and put it like that.

Yeah, how important is that to be receptive to that kind of feedback? You know, for all the artists out there that maybe just it might be. I mean, I I just I just trust their ear. So you know what I mean. It might be an artist who be like, nigga, might it might be an artist who got a a a good ass ear, and he just know. Like, he might not need to goddamn listen to his surroundings. He might know how to pick his own music, pick his own album out. I was just saying what worked for me. That's my process. That's my process right there. I listen to everybody else, and then I make the final goddamn decision based off of my thoughts and everybody else's thoughts. And then if we got thoughts that's the same and coming, I'm like, well, shit, nigga, we know that's a no-brainer. Cause we both were thinking the same thing. Everybody agrees. Yeah. Yeah, but I think that's a I think it takes like a mature approach to look at it and something like emotion where you might not have been fucking with it, it was always a skip for you. But when it's not for the people that you like respect and have around you, yeah, that speaks volumes though. Because there's a bunch of artists that would not take that approach where it's like whatever they want is on there, fuck everyone else.

I think you know, it it might work for them, but I think this is I think this um I think it's it's smarter to listen. That's just what I think. But guess what? I'm not into that right and wrong way type shit. I believe what worked for me worked for me, and what worked for you might work for you. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think if uh Kanye's team told him not to put a song on it. I don't think he would listen. Probably not works for him. Nah, if it's a song I like and they saying don't put it on there, well, that's rare, that's a rare. If I like it, they gonna like it too. Okay, so that that that rare it rarely happens the reverse, then yeah, it'd be a song I'm not fucking with. And they fucking with it. Yeah, yeah. That's how it goes all the time. Yeah, yeah. So usually the ones that you like, they're like, all right, good call shot. Yeah, we like that one. The ones I like, we, they're, they're they're the undeniables, yeah. And the other ones, they might feel like are undeniables, but I might be like, it's an artist thing, man. We might hear we might know one thing that we coulda did different in the song, but they not even hearing that shit. It's five to them.

It's an artist, it's some artist shit. Yeah, but you gotta have people around you that can say no too as well, right? You gotta have people around you that might be like, shot, this is not the one. It ain't never like that though. It's not I make five music. I don't make them type of song. No, but I feel like it is my sorry songs is still some shit that's like cool. You can put it out and people gonna fuck with it. Yeah, yeah. No, I I think it is interesting as far as like you know, that that approach is you know, artists are they, they, they think, oh, I know I could have recorded it this way. No one's fucking hearing the like you could have done it this way thing in your head, you know. Like the average listener is not gonna see that or hear that or know even that that was a thought. That shit's not even gonna register. They be like, what the fuck did you talking about? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so like like so. Do you catch yourself kind of being your biggest critic? Would you say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, overthinking shit, just thinking too hard, Gemini shit. Yeah, okay, yeah.

No, That's most definitely okay. So you're, you're born and raised Southside Atlanta, right? Yeah, shout out the South. You do I love this quote from you, so I'll have to say it again. You said you came out the placenta dripping. That was probably like top five best quotes I've ever heard a rapper say in my life. I came out of placenta dripping. Nah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, I don't even remember when the fuck I said. I don't either, but you said it and it was fucking amazing. But it sounds like some shit I'd say. It definitely does, yeah. So, like, how important is style for you? Um, style. Style, pretty important. Yeah. Style, pretty important. But what defines your style, there could be goddamn, you know, that could be an issue like that could be debatable. What defines the style. You know what I mean? A lot of people think goddamn clothing is the style. It's more than that. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? So they could be. What is involved with style, would you say outside of the the uh clothes? I think it used to be clothes, but nah, it still is clothes, but it's more like everything goes style, man.

Because you can just everything go in your style, the way you talk, the way you walk, the way you know what I'm saying, the way you holler at a bitch, anything or young lady, When I say bitch, yeah. You know, female, the way just yo, you know what I mean? It's just a whole order, man. It's just everything, man. Yeah, who'd you look up to that was you know, kind of the the uh pinnacle of style for you that you kind of you know looked at. Wow, style, style, style. Who do I look to for is style? Um, Shit, man. Nah, I told you I came out of placenta with this shit, man. It was in him, it was in him. I told you, man. Man, I've been had style. Style, you can't learn this, Ben. Yeah, no, for sure. I'm learning that you can't learn this. See, that's a good, that's a good point. Valid point. Yeah, but You know what I'm saying, but yeah, shout out Fonny in the building. Once again, you did, you know, shout out him.

Oh, Fonny having too much drip. Too much the most. He's got an excessive amount of drip. Yeah, but I can't see he got his own style. I can't do his style. No, it's definitely a personal thing. He got his own style, but he know how to style me though, yeah, he definitely, which is different than himself. Yeah, for sure. We don't wear the same shit. Yeah. So outside of the Fonny brand, you know, original Fonny, what other brands has he been putting you on that have kind of worked for you? Um, a lot of up and coming brands, people that need way more notoriety. And he be putting me on that Japanese shit too. A lot of Japanese brands, but he be wearing more of that. Like he wear that shit every day. Um, let me see. Who put me on? A lot of shit. Capital. He put me on that. What put me on that capital? put me on that goddamn? lot of shit. That futura. Got them on a black man? Yeah, that black man. Well, I put me on the black man. I wouldn't have had the black man if it wasn't for that man.

That's a bar. Yeah, man. Whatever. I don't know. A lot of different shit. But you know, my drip, I be dripping too now. Yeah, see, it's easy for him to come and help me drill, cause I'm already dripping. Yeah, just putting putting gas on the fire. Yeah, because see, you know what I'm saying? You really ain't got a style. I mean, you can just lay the pieces, you just lay some pieces out there. I'm gonna put that shit together. Okay, you see what I'm saying? Yeah, do you guys ever disagree about you know what what he thinks looks you know good for you and what you you know have in mind? No, I pretty much be listening. Okay, that's good. That's good. Respect. I mean, yeah, it sounds like even though you're like a confident dude, you definitely seem to be like open to other people that are good at their like craft, like you said, your producers are next level. Fonny's obviously a next level, you know, designer and creative and stylist, right? So, like trusting kind of people, Yeah, for sure, that's huge. Cause like a lot of people are confident, but also overstep their bounds sometimes and like don't listen to other people. So I feel like that's that's a pretty cool trait.

That's why I'm glad I ain't just pop out while I was young, you know what I mean? I'm glad I got a chance to learn all this shit, get all this knowledge. Cause goddamn, boy. I don't know. I don't know if I would say you didn't pop off when you were young, though. I did, Pop off. Yeah, we did pop off. Yeah. We popped the fuck off. We ain't pop off, we popped the fuck off. We haven't even talked about rich kids. No, no. I mean, I be talking about like I be talking about from a solo standpoint. I okay when like when I be talking, I always talk from a like my solo artist standpoint type shit. I see. So, you know, speaking of kind of the rich kids era, like I mean, you guys didn't even start rapping officially until like 12th grade, you said in high school, right? Mm-hmm. So, and then the music takes off immediately. But like, what even made you guys want to start rapping at that point? Um, fucking around. We was already a group, we was already swagged up and we was already the rich kids before the music came. Like they they just started calling I look crew the rich kid, because we just come through polo down. I might be designer down back then, Louis Gucci or what have you back then.

God damn, True religion, Robin's Jean. We went that route too. Met Gene Dental, you know what I'm saying. Or all that American Eagle, Abercrombie, Fitch, you know what I'm saying. Ben came through dripping. The boy had the mohawk and stuff with the skinny jeans. He might wear some girl jeans on? Yeah, yeah, really dripping. You know what I'm saying? So we been the rich kid, pulling up, whipping, and you know what I'm saying? I was um, we just used to be in my um, we used to be in my cousin's basement and uh at the butt tilt house we used to be in the basement and he got the studio down there. So I'm already knowing how to just work the shit just I was fucking with that nigga goddamn hard drive and listen to all his new music type shit. So you know what I mean? I think we just we just fucking around and just got them chill. That was the hangout, so shit, the studio with a hangout. We already had the swag. Man, but we fucked around and got a beat, man. So started rapping. Done.

Man, what? First song was goddamn we did with Wets Up. Smash. Yeah, that's the first song we ever recorded. That's wild. That's why I say, like, it ain't no way you can say you was in control of that. That had to be just written type shit. God had to write that shit. So did you know how to engineer before you even knew how to rap? Yeah. Because of just being around Tip Studio? Yeah. Like I had to learn how to engineer because we had to learn how to fuck with that nigga hard drive and listen to all that nigga music. I hope you didn't delete any sessions or anything. Hell nah And then I had I had like I had I had two other cousins. They used to rap before I even rap. So I had a cousin named ATL, who used to rap Lil ATL. Well, now I had a cousin. I have a cousin named Lil ATL, but that nigga used to rap. He still rap. But see, I wasn't rapping. He was rapping. But I was the engineer for him. Mm-hmm. Wow.

And hype, man. How important do you think it is for artists to know how to engineer themselves? It's cool. You can cut goddamn. You ain't got a because you know what I mean? You gotta call an engineer, wait on them. Whenever you feel like recording, you can motherfucking record. Yeah. As long as you got a studio on each pack, it don't matter. You can think. Because sometimes the urge to record comes like right now. Right. You be like, yeah, fuck that. I want to go to the studio. I feel like goddamn. Cause you might hear some shit. I'm telling you where it really comes from. It comes from when you hear somebody's music. You know. Like another motherfucker might um inspire you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You might hear some fire shit. Like anytime I hear some fire music, that shit urges me to record. So is that like a competitive thing? Or I don't compete with myself. Yeah. I don't compete with myself. I don't compete with people. Cause that shit called anxiety. Yeah. He's very zen. Yeah. I compete with myself. You see what I'm saying? So yeah. He's like Yeah, that's what I'm competing with myself. I agree though. Like inspiration can strike anytime

and just having the ability to go straight in and get your get your ideas out is major, I think, for any. And especially these days where it's super easy to get some cheap gear that sounds pretty good. Like it used to be harder back then. And it's vibe. Like recording is all about vibe. Yeah. Like I think any type of art is all about vibe. Your vibe ain't right, you're not gonna be able to create. Right. So the vibe, you know, that shit go up and down, like that shit can happen in a matter of seconds. So yeah. If you know how to record, bam, pull a beat up, whoop the woo, woo-do-hoop. So what's your ideal vibe, right? Like, are you, you know, smoking, lots of girls in the studio, lights down, like what's kind of like your vibe, you know what I mean? To create. My vibe, my vibe is when you got them, because like like all my producers, any any producer I had, they live with me. So I got them, they make it all I hear is beats all day. You see what I'm saying? So I like we got studio Any house we at any spot, we had some studio in that motherfucker.

So my vibe, I like to go to sleep and wake up to a nigga making a fire beat. Cause I'm probably asleep on the couch in the studio. While they making beats all night? Cause my producers, all them niggas be some like, they be up all night, type shit. So I like to wake up, bam, by like six in the morning or something, five, six, seven in the morning or something to them niggas, they still up making a fire beat. Like, I like to wake up to the beat in the studio and wake up to the beat, like geeked up, still high from last night type shit. Wake up. Damn, that motherfucker hard, hot right on the mic. That's that's the ideal vibe. Wow. Yeah. Like morning breath and everything. Like just straight, just straight to the mic. Straight to the motherfucking mic. That doesn't sound like a bad way to wake up to like a nice 808 or something. A half a blunt, a half a blunt. Ready to go Yeah, that you ain't, cause you don't feel you ain't even gotta roll that motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or the producer nine times out of ten, he's gonna be smoking in that motherfucker already. Yeah, yeah, pass me that motherfucker, bam. But man, he's so true. Like all producers are night owls. Like, now I understand. Yeah. I mean, I'll get text from Henry at like 4 30 a.m. and I'm like, listen to this shit right here. I'm literally so asleep. And it's like I because I'll be doing all type of shit all day. Like, them niggas just make beats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So they be up all night. I might go to sleep. Bam. When I go down, I like to come back up to the beat. Like that hell yeah shit crazy. Yeah. So I mean, you mentioned, you know, you know, your cousin T.I., right? Like, how much of an inspiration or like, you know, mentor has he been, right? Like, you know what I mean? Like, what role has he played in in your music career outside of just being family? Um, shit, I don't think The hell we wouldn't even been rapping. That nigga at the studio right now. Like, that was the whole, that was the whole setup right there. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Like, bam. And then just to know how far you can go with that shit, it's a blessing to have. It's a blessing to have a prime example right there in your face. Yeah. To let you know how far you can go with this shit. Yes. Like, cause like, even if a nigga see a rapper, like, or somebody who ain't related to him. Like, you know what I mean? Kanye West Jay-Z or something, you still might not feel like you can do that shit. But just knowing that goddamn, you know what I mean? Seeing it right in front of you. And then you getting out of ins and outs of this shit. You just getting knowledge. You just steady gain. You just getting experiences and you already experienced with this shit. So when it come your time, you already experienced. You ain't got to worry about doing the young nigga crash out shit. You know what I'm saying? Cause you already know what not to do once you got down once you get up through the type shit. And you know what to do. Like, you know what I mean? And you know what the lifestyle is about before it come. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. For sure, for sure. I'm sure you've learned like a ton, and it may be hard to pinpoint, but like, is there one kind of like recurring theme or like one hardest hitting thing that you've like learned from watching him and and his trajectory, you know what I mean?

That that's kind of stuck with you as as you've been doing this shit. Um, what I learned from him is, damn, you just gotta stay working. Yeah, gotta stay working. If you're trying to be like successful in this shit, that level where they at, them niggas be working. Them niggas be on the phone all day. Them niggas never put the phone down for sure. Yeah, it's not, it's not just recording music, sadly. Yeah, man. Yeah. Most most artists have a rude awakening when they like you just gotta be up, moving around, just handling business. This shit just like a non-stop motion. I feel like he's a natural businessman on top of amazing. artist And guess what though? Some shit can happen real fast. And some bullshit can happen that that that got down that set you back a couple. Mm-hmm. Yeah. A couple years. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So learned all that type of shit. Nah, it's interesting looking at, you know, the likes of T.I., you know, Luda, Jay-Z, you know, just kind of like the pinnacle I would definitely got there and say, Well, I'm glad you said it's a mofo

I would say man, we ain't finna talk about T.I. the whole goddamn interview. No, no, no. Nah, hell no. Nah. No, but like, that's a joke. But yeah, but I mean, the to get to that level, they all have that, you know, Kanye included, right? Like, look at his other businesses, you know what I mean? So, like, that's what I learned too. I definitely learned that from him. Like, boy, keep you some more businesses going on. Yeah. And then, like, yeah. Because that's how you get to like just that next next level. You know what I mean? Like being a successful artist is cool, but like getting to that, that like upper echelon. I feel like that the general theme amongst all of those successful, you know, artists is that they've got businesses that'll feed them for a lifetime as opposed to just the music. Exactly. You see how much money we get off streams and shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Come on, Spotify. Step it up. For sure. So exactly. So the rich kids stuff, like you said, kind of immediately takes off. You know, you mentioned in another interview, like you clearly didn't expect it to do that.

But like, how cool was it walking around school with your shit on the radio? Um, like, did you feel like the shit? Can you imagine that? No, no, that's why I'm like I'm trying to live vicariously through you. Just go back to your 12th grade year and think you got a song on the radio. Yeah, yeah. Like people coming to the school And they're like, yeah, well, y'all on the radio. You're teaching back now, you know what I mean? Shh, Nick could have got them, yeah. Teachers, everybody. Yeah, I mean, were you getting like, you know, get out of jail free cards of like not going to class type shit? Were you know, were you getting like kind of the easy route Nah, we had to do our we had to do our work, but it was 12th grade, so it was it was easy. Like I ain't had to do nothing, just finished the 12th grade. I already had good grades, 9th, 10th, and 11th grade. So niggas had to finish 12th grade. Then nigga was on the work program, so I ain't do nothing but half a day in 12th grade anyway. So, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I used to and then, you know what I mean? We said fuck class a lot. Like we definitely was saying fuck class and fuck school, like during that time for sure for sure. And uh, you know what I mean?

But you know what I mean? We had that anyway. We we was like the popular kids in school. So we've been had to get out of jail free shit. Before the music. Yeah. I told you we were we've been rich kids, no. Yeah, so like so then how much was it a big change then, right? Like, I mean, did you have like infinitely more like girls hollering at you and shit? Like once this music popped up or not even. Like it was kind of I mean it might be girls from other school who don't know other school, okay, yeah. It just expanded. Yeah, we been had girls. It it just expanded like the city, we been had the city. Yeah, the whole city on lock. It's just expanded to different cities. The whole south. Yeah, that's what it's been. Like anything you talk about in this city, like it wasn't no much no change, Cause we been had the whole city. We just got some uh we just got some hit records now. Yeah. So now we turn the whole city that we could perform and give y'all something to turn up to. That's the only thing. But we been like piping shit for sure. So so talk to us about like the dynamics of the group, right? Of like being in a group.

Yeah, you know, how did y'all operate, you know what I mean? Like what what were some of the like hardest parts of like being in a group? You know what I mean? I mean, we was like basically we was together all day, every day anyway. everybody went to the same school. Like we in between classes, everybody meet up at the same spot, same stairwell every day. So like the dynamics was like we just brothers all together every day. And then it's just like the challenges of being in the group, you said when it gets hard. Yeah. Um, I mean, let me see. You know, sometimes it get hard. I don't, not that much though. I'm trying to think. Like the business made that shit. I ain't gonna lie, with our situation, the business is where got down Bam Bam Bam Bam Then we was some young niggas, so we ain't have our own mind. We were listening to Bem or or Bam, we listen to some OG, some old type niggas, you know what I mean? So Half people be influenced by this motherfucker, and then half of the group be influenced by this motherfucker, you know what I mean? So that That's where the challenge would come in. That's where

I think would be like the biggest challenge, right now. Yeah. So so if you were to go back and be kind of like a voice of reason, like would you have said anything to the group at the time, you know what I mean? Like Yeah, but that's it. That's that, ooh, I don't like to think back and do all that shit. Because it didn't happen like that. So I think shit happened how I supposed to happen. But definitely, hell yeah. What? Definitely. So hypothetically, even though you don't like to think about this, what what would you have maybe gone back and said? Shit, They're gonna get their money. Yeah. So do you think you've do you do you think? I could have been more, I can, you know what I mean? I have a more of a like, like, like a lot of people already already look at me to be a leader type shit, right? But you know what I mean? I think like I still I like it. That shit, like, still now today, like being more of a leader type shit. You know what I mean? Do you like that pressure? No, I don't like no type of pressure. Yeah. I don't like pressure. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But you know what I mean? We can ride to the occasion, though. But do what I'm saying. I I like shit easy going, non-confrontational, you know what I mean? Type shit like that. And I think shit be going how I opposed to go. So I don't put no effort and try to change the shit really. I can tell you once or twice or three times, but I ain't feeling just try to force you to think no certain type of way. You dig what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, like, where do you get this kind of zen-like mindset? Like, is there like a is your mom or dad? You know what I mean? Like, what where do you kind of get this approach to life? I educated myself. Yeah, what? Dealing with certain situations. And I just say, okay. My whole, my whole process, my whole thought process is my whole like, even since I was a kid, like, okay, what's a smooth way to do this shit? You know what I mean? With no pressure type shit. What's the way I can use my brain to do this shit rather than using my strength or my body? You know what I mean?

So it just been using my brain forever. That's where I got that approach from. It's wild because, like, you know, growing up Southside of Atlanta and whatever, like, there's probably not as many people taking that approach, right? You know, a lot of people were kind of like the abnormality would you say? Yeah, because you know, it it all comes from just knowing what's important and knowing what's not important. Some some most of the time. Certain shit be not important, you know what I mean? Cause they'll they'll like speaking on what be going on like in the streets, like even every side of Atlanta. I mean, every side of area, every ghetto everywhere. Like every, you know what I mean? Not even in the ghetto, like just everywhere. Like a lot of some bullshit can happen because somebody thought something was important that really wasn't any motherfucking important. It was some shit you could have just said, man, fuck that shit. Yeah. I say fuck that shit a lot. Like, like, like, fuck that shit. That's a bit, that's that that, that's a big um phrase in my vocabulary. Yeah.

Man, fuck that shit, man. But it has like deeper meaning than like you would think. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not that deep. Man, I just fuck that shit. Yeah. Yeah, but it sounds like apathetic as opposed to really, it's more like it's not that serious and not that important. You know what I mean? That's what I mean by Deep breath. Yeah. That what it mean. It's not like you literally not like giving a fuck about anything. It's more like you saying, like, hey guys, this isn't that fucking serious or that important to go do some fucking crazy shit over. You know what I mean? Exactly. And just fuck that shit. Yeah, nah, for sure. I feel like people usually have to get like 50, 60 years old to get there. Sometimes, like, sometimes like, but this is where it come, this where it get, this is where it get goddamn tricky at. Like, sometimes, like, you had to make an example because if you don't put if you don't put your foot down in the beginning, you know what I'm saying? People will keep trying you. You know what I mean? And your whole life, you'll just be getting tried your whole life. Because you always let everything slide and say fuck that shit.

So it get tricky now. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what I mean? So if you don't put your foot down the first time, You gonna keep getting tried until you put your motherfucking foot down. You know what I mean? That's that's that's just how I go. If you got them see a goddamn, if you see a goddamn box right there with cash in it, and then shit, you go, say it's full of hundreds, and you go grab $10,000 out that motherfucker every day, and you know it's his money, but he ain't said, hey, Ben, don't grab my motherfucking money. If he let you keep on doing it, you're gonna say shit. Tomorrow gonna come, you're gonna be spending all the money. You like, damn, Why don't you go get another 10,000 out the goddamn box? If he ain't never saying shit, you gonna keep pinching out that motherfucker till there ain't no more money in there. Yo, stop giving him the the leads, bro. Yeah, I've been doing that. Is that where my money's going? Exactly. Like, what the shot Jesus. So as soon as soon as soon as Henry put his motherfucking foot down, I say, hey Ben, nigga, what the fuck you doing? Put my motherfucking money back, nigga.

Then you ain't gonna come fuck with it no more. Or he shoot your ass in the leg. Right. You ain't gonna fuck with his money no more. Like, you know what? I don't want to get shot in the leg. So I ain't gonna fuck with Henry money no more. So it is about finding that like fine line of letting shit kind of like roll off the sleeve, but then also not taking all the bullshit too. There's a line. So that's when it comes what's important and what not important. Sometimes it is important. $10,000 every day is important, probably. Yeah, yeah, man. I would like that. That's that's that's that's what they call that shit. Unacceptable. Yeah, exactly. No, for sure. So, well, you know, you kind of hinted at it, but like what can the fans be excited about, you know, coming up, right? Like, is there anything you want to speak on? See, a lot. See, my real fans be knowing, like, I ain't gonna just I ain't just gonna separate them like that, but the motherfuckers who be on my lives and shit, and just tuning in might give you a hint on my IG story. Like, they be knowing what's really finna go down. I can what I can tell you to expect from me is projects, a couple more projects.

Um, a documentary. Ooh, yeah, more merch. We drive, we are doing a merch drop because a lot of people be hitting me up talking about um when you gonna drop the merch. Because a lot of people ain't gonna get to get a dose of it, but for sure, more merch coming. And um, so we're gonna we're just gonna we're just gonna turn it up a notch? Yeah, yeah, whatever you think we've been doing, yeah. We finna got down, we finna put it on crap. Yes, so was the in God we trust Dickies suits was that part of the last drop? No. That was a That was a like a custom piece for you. Yeah, that was custom. Nobody, nobody got that. I feel like people would want that. You should do that. Maybe like exclusive drop. Yeah. Just a few. No taking. Yeah. I mean, I was looking at it and I was like, I don't even rock Dickies suits like that. But I was like, damn, if I'm a you know. Yeah, the in God We Trust Dickies. Yeah. Nah, you definitely I might have to. I think, hey, funny. We might have to Let them put the in God We Trust Dickies or do a family and friends drop. What project are you working on, though?

Tell them about that. Tell them about the project. Yeah, for sure. All right, me and Turbo got a project finna drop. Me and Turbo on the colour. One more time exclusive. We love it. Play. makers. Thank you, Fani for the alley oop. Playmakers. Like, who the fuck am I to talk about a secret? Nigga, you better let the secret out, nigga. Fool ass nigga. There's a platform for that. You know what I mean? Exactly. For sure. The fuck is wrong with me? Listen. I didn't say it, but listen. I'm glad you did. Me and Turbo are finna drop a project. I have Turbo got down. And um, and all his producers, Playmakers, you know, they got they they his group is the Playmakers. So me and the Playmakers is dropping the whole project. You know what I'm saying I'm saying? And so that's what the fuck finna go on. Love that. Love that. That sounds that sounds legendary. So There you go but you mentioned literally like staying in the crib. So, like, did you like lock in with Turbo? Like y'all were in the same crib, like waking up to turbo beats type shit. Like, is that like how y'all were working? Yeah, that's it.

You gotta wait on a documentary. That's why we're doing the documentary. Damn, we need that. Yeah. So is that just showing kind of like the day in the life of you know, Shonda God type shit But the answer to your question, yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I used to wake up. I used to wake up to them niggas. Them niggas going crazy in that mix. Me and Weezy, wait, stop playing. Nigga wake up, and they got a big fat ass blunt in the hand. I wake up to a goddamn beat, go stupid on that motherfucker. For sure. Damn. Yeah, no, I mean, I've heard a bunch of, you know, artists that have taken that approach too. Because I mean, not only do you get to just be around each other making music all day, but you also get to like know each other, like past just the music, right? Like, is that pretty important for you to like, you know, get to know the producers and shit. We live together. Yeah. Everybody live together. We all, we be living together. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. We should be a family. We be got now. We know that. We know what I mean. That would make the music. That's why the music kind of be like easy, like that. You know what I mean?

We don't gotta think too much about the music. We just everybody know each other and everybody just familiar with each other. You know what I mean? Yeah. Nigga, we living together. We know what the fuck. It's like, it's just like a what the word is. Like a chemistry. Chemistry. Yeah. What's synergy mean? Can you say synergy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. It's definitely got synergy. Yeah, between you two. Yeah. Yeah, because sometimes, you know, even just like, you know, you know, scheduling recording sessions, right? With artists, sometimes if it, you know, it's like, I don't like that shit Yeah, it's like, oh, we schedule the three-hour block. But it's like, oh hell no, I ain't. Yeah. I'm a pimp. I can't have no motherfucking three-hour block. Nigga, three hours, I just been in that motherfucker. Jay got the eating and shit. Jay called a couple hoes. Jay rolled up a blunt. And Jay got the vibe right. You see what I'm saying? Hell nah that's another thing. That's why we gotta live with that shit. That's why I gotta have a studio in my house. For that reason right now. But I you know, like I said, it's been getting a little bit more professional.

And we've been doing, you know what I mean? We've been, we've been got down doing more planning and strategizing and shit. So it has been sessions like that lately. Like we've been working, we've been doing our shit at a certain time. Yeah, I mean, there's a place for that, I think. You know, it but it doesn't need to be the norm. It can be you know part of the mix. That's not how that's not how the shit happens. That's not how the magic happens. The magic happens when you don't even, you know what I mean? When you don't even know it's gonna happen, when you least expect it. Which is crazy though, because I think every artist, to your point, is different, right? And you talked about this a lot of like what works for you doesn't necessarily work for, you know, yeah. I don't think Ain't no rules in this shit no more. Yeah, for sure. Because because Pope Baby, who we had on, he's an artist out of Savannah, he's super dope. He was just on tour with EARTHGANG. He talked about he only likes two-hour recording sessions because he like can't hand like you know, his approach is like Oh he gets ADD. Or I don't even know remember that.

He knows exactly what he's about to go in and do. He has the song right now. He already wrote his shit. Exactly. Oh, see, you see? That and that works for him. Yeah, because he likes it. I ain't no way in the hell I can get down and write some music like that. Hell no. Yeah, so what is your writing, you know, process? Like, are you uh just in the booth kind of hum track guy that gets? Wake up on the beat. I I hear the beat. When I hear the beat, I just get on the mic, start humming some shit. Then turn it into words. Then shit, then bam, come up with one line. Shit might be two bars. Nigga might come up with one bar. Bam, put that motherfucker down, put me in. Do the same shit, keep going Till the whole song done. Really, once you do the hook, I believe that like it's kind of easy. Now you got something to build off of. Yeah, you gotta you gotta anchor. Main thing is doing the hook because the hook, the main part of the song. So you know what I'm saying? Yeah, So hook first. Yeah, yeah, Hook first for you usually. Ninety, ninety-nine percent

of the time, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You got your concept. You got you can go back to it if you need a bar and a verse. Well, some songs you might come in and just rapping on that motherfucker, then come up with a hook. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I say 99% of the time the hook first. Yeah, for sure. So we've talked about doing a segment, and I want to get Chad's input on this. We've talked about doing a segment where we like only focus on maybe a most recent project and almost go like track for track, maybe only doing a handful of tracks, but like really focusing in on like how this song was made, type of shit. Okay. So you ain't trying to do that right now. You just talking about it. No, no, exactly. I'm just wondering, would you like like to shed light on that? Like to people, you know what I mean? If it's a song when I remember, yeah, because every song you don't remember what the fuck was going on. Yeah, that's right. That's the hard part, right? It's getting them to like remember. But like I can tell you, like, one of them songs I wrote, I woke up to, I woke up to the beat playing was Rich shooter. I woke up to that motherfucker, like, hell,

that nigga 88 and that motherfucker doing that Rich Shooter beat. Boom. Yeah, I go, Rich Shooter, Rich shooter. That's why I kept saying, Rich Shooter. It's Rich shooter? So you woke up with the hook. Yeah, Rich Shooter. Rich shooter. I just woke up to that beat. I woke up to that beat. He was making that beat, and nigga went crazy. Yeah, I wonder how much you're like dreaming of the lyrics before you wake up in these circumstances you're describing. Sometimes I be dreaming of the lyrics already. But like it's like once you get on the headphones on and get the mic, you don't never say the shit you was just thinking about. You don't even sound the same no more. Yeah, because you say something totally different. Yeah, because that's that whole thing of like you immediately forget your dream, like once you wake up, you know. Yeah, and then you might remember it, but you might say, you know what? I can go harder. Yeah. Switch that shit. It's different once you got the headphones on and you hear it and you hear yourself in the headphones. Just how we hear our own voice. Like that's how it goes. You're like, Nah that sounds a little different. Yeah.

But hell yeah, though. For sure, for sure. No, I think it would be dope for sure. Well, I'm looking forward to the uh project with Turbo and the playmakers. For sure That sounds fire. The documentary has me very intrigued. Yeah. So any like tentative release date for that? Because I'm personally looking forward to that. This year. Hell yeah. Okay. Hell yeah, for Sure. Okay. Awesome. No, I can't wait for that one. Soon, we ain't pushing. Alright, good. Don't make us wait another three and a half years, my guy. Man, hell nah. You see, I ain't make you do that between Goddamn and God We Trust, 88 grams. That's true. All right. I'm gonna take that as the norm now. So that's what we're used to. We working, man. We working. They ain't even gonna let my team ain't gonna let me do no cap ass shit like that. No, they're just gonna leak your shit, whether you like it or not, right? They'd be I would be threatening me like that. My video, man, I would be threatening. I'm gonna leak this shit. Shout out to him, because that sounds amazing. Well, yo, this has been awesome. We're about to enter a final segment of the podcast. Let go.

Henry, where are we at? Chad, this is the rapid fire rampage. Exactly. It's a three-part rampage. We're basically just gonna go real quick back and forth. I'm gonna start off with some short answer questions, real simple. We're gonna do a this or that. I'm gonna just give you two choices and you pick one. And then the last part is a word association. I'm gonna throw one word at you and you just say the first thing off the top of your head right back at me. All right. So I'll explain it again as we go. First up is the short answer. One more time podcast, episode 66. Shot to God. One more time, one more time. One more time. Chad, if you had to change your name again, what would you change it to? Knowledge. Shot, if you were an emoji, which one would you be? The blue M. Shout out the letter M. Yeah. He Uses that one. You can have dinner with three people, alive or dead. Who do you choose? The first people came to my mind.

I don't know why the first people came to my mind. They might not even be who I really wanna have dinner with. But we need, that's what we're looking forward to. to do. Why the fuck did I think about Rick Jane? Love that. It's amazing. Because it's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then, uh, shit. I bring my daddy back for a dinner. Cause my daddy had passed with me. You know what I mean? Rest in peace. Yeah. Bring him pops back for sure. Bring him pop back for a dinner Yeah. And he gets to meet Rick. Yeah. And get it. Legendary. Whoever's gonna have it in that motherfucker. Last one. A dinner. Probably have Probably had a boy Crow at the dinner, man. Yeah. Who's Crow? Who Crow? Yeah. Uh, a family member of ours. Okay. He crazy as a motherfucker. Okay. Yeah. Let's get Crow at the dinner. Yeah, Rick Jane, Crow, and my daddy. Wow. We be turnt up. Damn. Where y'all gonna go eat? We gonna eat. Shit, I probably have some alkaline cuisine cooked up. We might be cooking.

I might cook that motherfucker. I might cater to dinner. Okay. Wow. Catered by Shad to God. Sounds epic. Fire, yeah I just invited myself to this hypothetical. Come on, pull up, pull up, pull up, man. Okay. Chad, you could pick three producers to work with for the rest of time. Who are they? Um Turbo Wheezy and 88. Easy. Narkees, Marissa P, Narkees. That nigga is too crazy. That's my young nigga. Yeah, rest of the case. See, I don't even like. Damn, you should've said four, but you said three and Narkees. That counts as a special. Yeah, he on the Turbo Wheezy, 88 and Narkees. Oh yeah, I can't do, I can't do no wrong. What? Nigga please. That sounds fire. Starliner. So you're given $25 dollars for every unfinished song of yours. How much weed can you buy? Some weed, some bags, some pounds.

Pounds. Pounds. Describe podcasts to a four-year-old. Podcast is a conversation between normally a superstar and what do they call y'all? Regular folks? Not too much. Some peons. People who ask questions. White people. Okay, to a four-year-old. Yeah, four. Cause I gotta explain y'all. Cause they be like, why are they asking y'all questions? I can I can describe the superstar. You know what I mean? But why y'all asking me? I gotta know how to describe y'all. Cause she gonna be like, why okay? Why are they asking you questions? Why are these random white people asking you questions? It don't even matter who it is. Like, well, why is somebody sitting there asking you a whole bunch of questions? That's what I have to figure out how to explain. But it's just like an interview. I hope they understand what an interview is. No. I don't know. I think they're asking a lot of questions, though. You could, they could probably get that. They could

probably get that again. But no, I gotta, but the only challenge would be explaining why in the fuck y'all ask me all these questions. But why this exists? Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, yeah. I still ask myself that every day. That shit great Why do we do this again? Uh we'll figure it out one day. One of these days. Let's just keep going. Yep. Chad, you can be any age forever. What age do you choose? Wait a uh, forever. It had to be probably somewhere in between where I'm at right now. It's 30 shit. It's 30 shit. Some pimp shit, man. I agree, man. I'm 31 and I'm like, yeah, I'm eating living it up. Yeah, it's uh it's on some real player shit around his age, man. I ain't gonna lie to you. And it's like, you know what I mean? But see, how can I say that? Because I ain't got a bad experience 40 yet. Right now, this is the best shit. Okay. Yeah. He's aging like fine wine at this point. Part of that zen shit, too. Yeah. That's real. Yeah. What are three things in your fridge right now? Um, romaine lettuce, some onions, and um, some macaroni and cheese, me and Chef D made yesterday.

You wake up in the middle of a zombie apocalypse. What is your first move? Um, I guess try to shoot that motherfucker. Try to shoot if somebody coming at me, I'm trying to shit I'm gonna shoot they ass. So find the strap. I ain't gotta find it. Grab it. It's on him. Yeah, gotcha. Reach for it. Last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? Um, let me see. Curse. Pretty good word. I'm trying to think between shit. Fuck, bitch. Damn. Hold on, bitch. Between all of them. Most of them shit. Shit, fuck, you gotta say them out loud. Fuck, that shit shit. I like that. Hold on, shit. God damn shit. Bitch. Bitch. Bitch felt good right there. Yeah. Part one of the rampage. Bitches making a comeback. Yeah. Yep. I like it. Shout out to all the bitches out there. Yeah, boy, I can't wait to call a bitch a bitch. Bitch, you is a bitch.

Moving on to part two. This is the this or that. Rampage. Slow beats or fast beats. Both. Stacks or ad libs. Ad libs. Piano or guitar. Phew. Boy, how the fuck you gonna ask me that? Mm-hmm. It's a tough question. Oh, okay. Piano. Okay. Yeah. Become a full-time engineer or leave the music industry. Nigga, can I go to another industry that make millions of dollars? Sure. Hell yeah, nigga. I uh become a full-time engineer. Cause full-time engineer ain't gonna make me no millions of dollars. Which or well, does it? There's only a few. There's a handful. There's a couple. Okay, so guess what? I will leave. Nah, but see, music is we got a love for that shit. Like, I got a love for that shit. That's why it's a great question. But see, you can get in the in the film industry and still be dealing with music. Because you gotta put the music in the movies, but I can go to the car industry.

Cause I like fucking with cars too. So, but I'm trying to think about money. Millions of dollars. Nah, I leave the music industry. Give up air conditioning and heating, or give up salt. Nigga. Hell nah. I ain't give up heating and air conditioning before I give up salt. Cause we'll build some shit with some shade on it. And goddamn be chilling You know what I mean? We be out in the sun all day. But you can't reinvent salt. Salt. Nigga, hell nah I hear you. Amazing. Write a song about rabbits or write a song about apple juice. Let me see. Rabbit, but apple juice. Juice, cause we know we got juice. Got the juice. Yeah. I like it. I love it. Apple juice, cause apple juice got more swag. You know what I mean? I don't see I'm pulling up in the apple juice. I'm having drip. I'm dripping like the Jew, the Jew. Nigga been having juice. I love that thought, process, Amazing. That's great.

Work for a bitch ass boss or be a bitch ass employee. That's the same shit. You work for a bitch ass boss. Nah, work for a bitch ass boss or be a bitch ass employee. No. Work for a bitch ass boss. I don't give a fuck if you're a bitch ass nigga. You still gotta do you. Yeah, you're just a bitch ass nigga. She don't bother me. Chat, would you rather always sing instead of talk or always dance instead of walk? I always sing instead of talk. Because we can sing and shit. I like it. Let's go with permanently charged phone or permanently fueled car. Car, nigga. Cause I can pull up on who I can't call. I love that thought process. You can charge your phone in your car. Nigga Nah, that ain't part of the answer, man. Yeah. Okay. Don't put words in shots, mouth. Come on, man.

All right. Move to China or move to Russia. I don't know what the fuck is going on in none of them places. I don't know. I ain't never been, no, none of them places. I've never been either. How the fuck do I know what's going on? Which one sounds cooler? I'm trying to see. Hold on. Have I ever seen, I'm trying to see who got the baddest hoes. Arguably both have some interesting looking women. Depends on what you're into, but Yeah, you know? Damn, but hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait. China or Russia. Everybody put. Hit them with the Jeopardy music. Yeah, Russia. It's some bad Russian hoes, There are. Yeah. Russia, nigga. There it is. What the fuck is you talking about? Here you go. Legalize drugs or legalize dueling between consenting adults. What is dueling? Fight to the death. Oh, drugs, nigga. I don't give a damn about no dueling. Be inside a porta potty when it's tipped over.

Or lose three weeks of your life. Three weeks. Oh. Or been but three, okay. What the fuck is three weeks? Nigga, we've been alive for goddamn years. It's true. Okay, but the port-a-potty, yeah. I don't want to be tipped over no port-a-potty It's not no pimp shit. Not at all. No. Yeah, I lose three weeks out of my life. Pimp shit. Yeah. Are we gonna eat ketchup with every meal or never eat ketchup again? You can never eat ketchup again. Because you can't put ketchup on everything. You can't. But then I was trying to think. I was trying to think for a standard diet, motherfucker. Like, you can put down. They can put ketchup on anything though. Like somebody who has a standard American diet. No, we're talking about Shah de God's diet. Your diet. I mean your diet. Oh, hell no. I don't need no damn ketchup. Nah. It's out of here. No ketchup. Last one of the this or that. This is to gauge your risk tolerance.

You have either a 90% chance of your next project with turbo going platinum or a 10% chance of that project going diamond. Which one would I take? Indeed. 90% chance. Safe bet. Part two of the rampage. Part two. Yeah. Great answers. Smart. Yeah. That's the smart choice. Yep. Last part is the word association. I'm gonna fire one word at you. You just give me one, two words back, first thing off the top of your head. Mmhmm Hip hop. Um Biggie Smalls Monster. Monster Cody. Bank. Roll my field Sacrifice. Die. So I want to die. Drums. Bass drum Bet. Humble. Get your ass down.

Cross. Crossroad. Bone Thugs-n-Harmony. Kush. Factory. Kush factory. Cat. In a hat. Magic city. Butt nigga ho. Deodorant. Stanging ass nigga. Uh, fuck 'em. Outer space. That's where we're going. Sauce. Man, Ben has salt. King. Tip. Podcast. One more time. One more time. Good man. Pass the test. Yeah. Bubble. Bubba Chevy. Ad lib. Is that a go-to? Yeah.

Or they phew. Yeah, I've heard that one. Yeah. I got that from my grandma. Oh, really? Oh, that's dope. But because she, she hadn't got kinda old, old, so by the time. When she come to the house, when she get high to steal, she just stop. Say, phew. That's amazing. Man Might be the only person to have ever got ad lib from his grandma. That's pretty amazing. That's hard. Yeah, for sure. Lil. Lil. Lil. Lil, Lil, it's just insane that shit. That was like, Lil So that's a broad word. I just thought about our whole vocabulary as niggas. Like, we about Lil everything. Pay me that little weed. Pay me that little drink. Pay me that little god damn But that little bitch, bad. That little goddamn bad. That little shit ain't talking about. Nah, but look, Lil, Lil is just like a word. And like Lil. We say Lil in front of everything. It's like a filler. Yeah, it's like Lil Yeah, it definitely has lost the actual meaning of a little bit. I couldn't even Goddamn, thinking shit. When you said that shit, I said that shit was like a crash. Lil everything. Lil, little bitch. Lil car, Lil bag of weed, Lil money.

His brain went into overdrive. Thinking about everything he's ever called Lil. That's crazy. That's amazing. All right, just a few more here. Lawyer. Lawyer. Yeah. Money. Mustache. Mustache. Yeah. Goddamn mustache. When I okay. Pussy. Oh man. I don't want to. I don't. Yeah. I'm like, we'll leave that alone. But I think I know where that's going to be. I think I know where that's going. Anyways, moving on, Henry. Bitcoin. Nigga, dropping in value. Yeah. Hustle. And flow. I'm in charge, DJ. I'm in charge. I was going with Hustle Gang, but we'll take it. Part three of the The lyrics at the end are just messing up my- these days Amazing rampage, bro. Amazing interview. Appreciate you coming on.

Yeah, appreciate you. As always, like, comment, subscribe. And until next week, we're out of here. Peace. Peace. Yes, sir. Yeah.