Popstar Benny Interview: Soundcloud Documentary | Managing Bear1Boss | Platinum w/ Rod Wave -

Apologies in advance for the quality of the audio in this episode. We had an SD card malfunction. I hope you still enjoy. That's one thing that's consistent about everything that's happened to me is Like a lot of the pivotal things, like I'll literally just be chilling at my house. Like it'll just be the middle of the evening and someone like calling me out of the blue. A number I've never seen before called and I picked up. He's like, yo, I'm telling you, I need some cover art. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine Conversations with Genuine People. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. Looking forward to this one for sure. Big time. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host, Henry with a three, because Henry with an E was already taken. Henry with a three, who do we have in the middle here today? Welcoming in on the 64th episode of the One More Time Podcast.

Legendary Atlanta rapper, it's Titty Boy 2 Chainz. 2 Chainz? Snapped. I feel like that's so good because I heard that you've actually been mistaken for 2 Chainz multiple times. A decent, decent, decent bit. Like I wanna say maybe like three, four times in the past like month or two. Type shit. Like I've been at Waffle House, I've been at the grocery store. Like people real deal thought I was like 2 Chainz. And you've also been at Doppler Studios where a famous artist also mistook you for 2 Chainz. Who was that? I think it was like Nelly. Nelly. Mr. Country Grammar himself thought you were Tity Boi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in all seriousness, we got platinum producer, we got manager, we got graphic designer, we got uh owner, business owner, we got DJ. We got Popstar Benny in the motherfucking building. Popstar. What's good, my guy? How you doing? I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for making the trek all the way from Mob County.

We know that the east side is uh is uh a land far, far away from where you stay. So we appreciate it. Yeah, we have to go far east. Yeah. All the way around 285. Sure, that traffic was fun. Um but yeah, so the the SoundCloud scenes plug documentary is you know recently out. You were a part of that. For those that haven't seen it yet, don't sleep, go check it out. It is it is amazing. For sure. Um tell the people, like how would you describe Plug? Um, I would describe it as like the sound is like Zaytoven-type melodies, but a little bit more internet. Like I feel like taking the Zaytoven-type soulfulness and like hard Atlanta drums, but then making it a little bit more like sparkly video game type sounds. Yeah, kind of virtual and short. This is perfect for the N64 64th episode of the podcast. How many of the people in that documentary have you personally worked with?

A good good bit of them, Metro Boomin. Definitely uh Muddy Maya, Tim K, 645 AR, Tony, Bear, of course. Um got a couple tracks with Smook. Um, so yeah, good, bit of folks in there. And Mexico Joe, I just I mean, I've been running into them for like the past couple years. I've just made beats with them like this past week. Oh wow. yeah, definitely good bit of people in there. We had his manager, Woe. Yeah, we had him on a podcast episode six. That's crazy. Oh yes, a whole year and change ago. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we had him on Big Shadow Woe. And yeah, Mexico Joe doesn't really do interviews. He did just do a kids' takeover interview though, so I was feeling some type of way. So I hit up Woe and I was like, yo, fucking one more time, can't get Joe on the podcast? Come on, bro. So hopefully we can make that happen. But um, what was it like watching that back for the first time? That was that was crazy.

It was definitely like a tier up type of like damn, like we've all came this far type of moment. Yeah. Do you think they represented the whole plug movement pretty well? They did a good job. Yeah, 110%. I feel like even them going past like the music um of it, like them touching on the Atlanta culture, like that was I feel like inspired, you know, and the reason why everybody's making the music, you know, and talking about like the party scene and talking about the shows, and talking about you know, just the lifestyle outside of it, like everything that goes into it, yeah. I feel like they touch every aspect. It's not just me. They got Fonny on it. I was gonna say my misremembering, because we had Fonny on the podcast recently. Yeah, I think they had Kim Kirk talking about um you know the photography scene, yeah. Because he helped produce it, I think, or he did something with the actual like creative direction of the whole documentary, I think. Yeah, I think so. I think they definitely um had him involved, you know, with the release. I think everything was shot.

Um a good bit of it was yeah, shot at the studio, they had the release party there. So yeah, he was definitely a big part of it too. Yeah, I hoop on Sundays with Cam. So he's definitely a big baller. So he gets smoked on Sundays. Hey, come on, come on, man. Okay, I got to hold my own. So you know, so you mentioned kind of like the you know, internet video gamey sound mixing with kind of that more traditional Atlanta, like Southern hip hop, 808s, you know, you know, kind of Zaytoven-ish sound. It is that kind of what is that how you would describe the influences for your specific, you know, sound within that plug realm? Or like are there any other influences that that you want to speak on? Yeah, 110%. It's like ultra Atlanta, because I feel like now it's cool that some of the like plug and hyper pop type stuff um is blowing up the way it is, because like there was the Zaytoven-Gucci time, like 06, 07 which inspires my um sound, but then like 09, like Travis Porter, Jay Money, um, Yung L.A., Rich Kids. yeah, Rich Kids, Rich Kids. All of them. like just that super melodic, you know, futuristic black and white boy era, like when they were doing all of the things.

Like, I feel like everything now is just like built upon that. Like, I feel like people like Uzi and different types of shit, like you know, just took those certain formulas of Atlanta and then like expanded upon because these people grew up listening to that. Exactly. So it's natural Full circle of it. Yeah, exactly. It's just coming back around in a different form. And on the video game sound front, like not everyone in that scene, even if they might have video game sounds, are like huge video gamers, but like the second we told you you were episode 64, you like lit up that oh it's the 64 episode. So it's safe to assume that you have been a big gamer like throughout your childhood and seeping into your you know, even adult years. 110%. What's your favorite game? Um probably Legend of Zelda Wind Waker is oh, yeah, probably number one for GameCube. Oh, wow. yeah, interesting. Yeah, that's number one, because like that's even where the um little sparkle sounds in my tag come from. Like sound effects in that game. Damn, that's hard.

My dad and I were like obsessed with Legend of Zelda, the original, yeah, right? Um, the Ocarina of time or whatever. And this is back when like there wasn't online guides or anything you could like look up on the internet. So there was when you would buy the game guides. I fucked with those. I was like my dad would like leave work early, like low-key sometimes to go. He was obsessed, like he was more addicted to Zelda than I was even. Like he like wouldn't let me play sometimes. Because he was good at that. It was like next level addiction for my dad. It was crazy. Um but yeah, is there anything I just want to say kind of about like the whole plug scene? You mentioned kind of being able to see like it finally getting its shine, and like I thought that was so cool what they did with that documentary, man, because I'm just obsessed with like the pockets of music and like hip-hop specifically. So, me honestly, I was even talking to Mikey, you know, shout out Mikey in the building in the building. You know, he was name dropping all these people in like this world that he lived in, and I'm ignorant to it, man. But then I'm looking at these people and he's saying, I'm like, damn, like they got motion, you know.

It's this like pocket though, that like unless you're in it, you might not know like that it's thriving so much, right? So I mean, for you, what's so special about like all the people that were in there that you work with and kind of like that whole scene, you know what I mean? Like I said, I think it's just because I feel like the music is a direct reflection of the lifestyle. That's why I was like I said, I'm glad they touched on like the culture and the things surrounding it, because it's like going to those shows and going, you know, hanging out in these super cool places. Like I mean, they're talking about little five points and other things, and it's like I feel like it's literally like youth culture. It's like this is just the sound of it, you know. Like you see the video directors and videographers and cameramen, and you see the look of it, and you see the fashion people, and you like you know, you see the dress of it, and you see the you know, I feel like everybody has their part of like displaying this thing that we all live in. Yeah, just like I said it being the music side getting highlighted and being like people I really do know and been working with for the past you know, like three, four, five years for some of them, you know, it's just, like beautiful to see it all come together.

That's gotta feel great of like seeing even just you know, of course, from a selfish perspective, like hey, you know, Pop Star Benny got his shine. but like to your point, even just looking at the the peers of yours, you know what I mean, that you've been putting in the work and like you know, that have been starting to you know catch some waves and whatnot to really see someone like a SoundCloud, you know, arguably one of the like biggest, you know, streaming platforms and stuff. I guess I was telling you, like, it's The platform that like we created that name on, so like for them to officially be you know, acknowledging the work put into it, it's, like a crazy full circle type thing. Because it's cool that you know the scene was highlighted, but for it to be highlighted by like the literal, like the the vessel, yeah. That made it happen. Exactly. Amazing, man. No, that's dope. So, you know, we you know, we hinted at Bear One Boss. There's the new self-titled project out now. Via Popstar FM. Tell us a little bit about that project, you know, the making of it, um, what your role was, like, just you know, kind of speak on his new project that's you know, self-titled Bear One Boss.

Please go stream that, you know, I feel like this is best best body of music yet. But I mean, the thing is with like Bear's process is that we like records all the time. Like, I literally linked with him the past two nights, and we were at like 16 songs, you know, type shit. Two nights. Yeah, yeah. Wow. So it was like really like that all the time. So I feel like for him, the thing when um, because every now and again, you know, it would be like it's been enough time, you know, let's like start sifting through the songs and kind of formulating a project. And I feel like for the other projects in the past, like each time it's kind of been us focusing on like one specific sound that he likes a lot. Like the super fancy time was like him really getting into hyperpop. You know, he had the um project called Quick Pick Three. That was like him really in the plug with like dark more street trap pocket, you know. But this time around, I was like, people find him at these different points, but I feel like sometimes people might not like know that he has like like seven different styles, you know. I feel like if I find one project and be like, oh, we really like this one, we really like that.

So the goal with this one was like to exhibit all the sides, um, and uh just kind of be like a definitive, like this is the bare one boss sound, you know, just taking it by all pockets, you know. I feel like there's the more like pop RB leaning style stuff, there's the more like super Atlanta, like Lex Luger Horn type stuff. There's uh some hyperpop leaning stuff, there's some yeah, like I said, the plug, just like every pocket and style we're interested in, just trying to get it in one like clear package. You kind of have to do that when you when you self-title. a project. I was gonna say that's a perfect self-title. There's a lot of, like pressure for it to like really reflect who you are as an artist, exactly. Yeah, because if it would have been just one pocket of those styles and it'd be self-titled, people would say, guys, like, immediately drop the truth. They're like, oh, this is what he's all about. Exactly. That's that's a it's a long project. Yeah, I mean, even you know, super major label artists aren't dropping almost pushing an hour in play length.

Mm-hmm. I was I was I was definitely like, damn. I mean, that is a lot. I mean, it's like what 20 yeah, 24 tracks. 24 tracks, almost an hour in playtime. What I found that was interesting, one feature. Yeah, Matt Ox. Yeah. What I just thought it was interesting, why not go with a fully no, like, what about that feature was like shit. We could either have 23 tracks that are all Bear 1 and it'd be the self-title. or we could have this one with Matt Ox, you know, what I mean? or was it just like we love this song and Matt happens to be on. Yeah, it was definitely more of that. I mean, Bear and Matt's relationship, they're definitely like locked in too, but it was a matter of it like fitting in the this is like part of the statement sound that we're trying to put knees on that song. Um, but even aside from like one of the missions was definitely to like lump all the sounds together, but another goal was it um was to you know, we had been doing like a whole bunch of shows towards like the end of last year, um, and a good bit like this year, but it was definitely like putting out music, seeing the reaction at the shows, and then like you know, top of this year, kind of going back to drawing board and being like, all right, now that we've seen like how crowds react to this thing, how crowds react to this thing, like you know, kind of sequencing the album to be like performance ready too. So it was like you know, doing every style, but then also having it to be like show ready, you know, like up tempo, the drops and stuff, like if it was being performed, yeah, you know, like real like live experience type album.

Because I mean his music is definitely like one of the reasons to check him out, but like Bear's live show, it's crazy. It can be like so. I saw Bear uh pop out at uh Wick's Patton show oh and I had to ask what like I was I was like it was hilarious but I didn't really get it you you can go to the mic and just say if you like hot sauce say ew and everyone would just go ew and he did that three or four times and everyone participated and it like totally worked but like what is the hot sauce thing it's in his bio too it's a big probably it's uh I mean it's like uh alter ego okay um hot sauce yeah and it just reminds me of the animal mixtape or uh yeah that's what it's uh referenced to oh my god yeah that's amazing it's the hot sauce that's why the album you know he had like the interview segments and uh different clips yeah like yeah like you should have to connect it because that's the thing some people you know think it's just like sauce them up like you know Atlanta lingo um but yeah it's got to be a reference uh hot sauce that's incredible wow hot sauce shit wow I wish I was here for that show so you were you left early I have a baby that's my excuse for everything exactly if I came early I'd love the baby card seven weeks in yeah yeah but if I want to stay somewhere late what maybe um exactly any good so uh like what was your role in this you know what I mean because you know for those that don't know your relationships Bear kind of like what was your role in this project for example uh for this project specifically I produced a good bit but um I mean he records uh a decent bit of places uh too like my homie Jackson he records with in 14 golds um of our like co-producers he records with but I do like a I'd probably say like maybe like half sixty percent of like his recent stuff I've been recording. So it's kind of been like A and R and you know like helping him select all the beats but then also being hands on like thinking about transitions and mixes and then on the production side just being like what you know because we'll have conversations and you know he'll be like oh maybe I wanna start going this direction sound wise this week or I want to start going this direction.

So it's like just making stuff to kind of keep up with with whatever his mission is at that time. Do you record him on stuff that you didn't produce? Yeah. Okay. Yeah 'cause for I mean I I think I recorded because even though I produced like 11, 12 songs on the album. I think I recorded like maybe like 18, 19 of them. So yeah I definitely yeah my mission is just to get the coolest music you know period even if I don't specifically work on it. add engineer to the resume. Yeah. There you go yeah I know I I definitely left that off the uh intro there. Yeah um but so how did the relationship with uh bear start because you're also technically a part of his management team you know you and Mikey are co-managing bear as well. So you know that's also why you have a stake in making sure that this project comes to life in the in the best way possible. But like how did you you know walk them through what the you know what the like I guess starting point was for the relationship? I think the starting point was uh I think I seen him randomly on Instagram around like 2018 and he was just like a fan of his music.

Like I saw he had like a beat email up. So I would you know be sending beats every now and again. But um it was pretty much just a fan for a hot second, and then I think like right at the end of 2019, um, or maybe it was the beginning of like January 2020, but there was a show um and that was DJing at, and like his DJ couldn't make it, so he had like a show mixed ready. Um, and all I had to do was just be there and like press play. So like I saw him perform, and that crowd might have been like 15, 20 people, but like he performed like it was fucking Coachella. So I was like, yeah, like 30 minutes straight, dancing, singing, no break at all, like full 30 minutes, yeah. Yeah, literally like no pause, no breath taking anything. So um then after that, like I was just locked in further as a fan, but just randomly, like later that year in October, my homie Zeezy, me and him had just been linking up and making like hella beats. So he was like, Yo, I have a session with this dude later.

If you want to send those recent beats we did, um so then like the next day he picked me up, he played in the songs. I think they did Zan and like one other song over me and ZD's beat. Zan was just Zeezy's but one other song over me and Zeezy's beat and he was like, Yeah, he's free today. Um, you know, if you want to link him he's like not doing anything he's just down and record whatever type shit so then we went, picked him up, did like four songs that night, and then over like the next two weeks, we did like 25 songs. So like we dropped that all as a mixtape, like on the third week of linking with him. And then from there it was like, all right, this was so easy, natural. Um, we've been a fan. Um, like let's just keep it going. And yeah, now we're like going on two years. Yeah, he sounds like he could pump out some fucking volume. Like, I mean, you said in the last like couple days you made yeah, sixteen songs. You said The first two weeks they made 25 songs.

I mean, how many songs do you think this guy has? Like thousands? Like, yeah, I mean, because I feel like me and myself, I've probably recorded in like 300, 200, 200. Yeah, I'm I'm fascinated by that. Like just how different artists are. I mean, because you know, then we talk to someone like a Pope Baby, he goes in the studio for two hours, and he probably might make one song. Yeah, maybe maybe 75% of the song. Let's just put it this way his last project was like nine songs or something. He only had picked nine beats, and he told the story of he was gonna make those fucking songs. Yeah, until he fucking died, he was gonna make those songs, not like I have five thousand to choose from. Here's my 25 I want to put or 24 I want to put on this project. Like it's just it's just interesting to me, like to talk about the differences in like people's workflows, how they approach making music, you know what I mean? Yeah, uh, and there's no right answer, clearly.

It's working for him, like the way he's doing it, works for Pope Baby, the way he's doing it, you know what I mean? But I'm always like, you know, as someone who's not an artist, I'm always like fascinated by how different the artists are. I'm sure Pope Baby could maybe make tons of songs if he wanted to, but that's just like not his style. it's got to point out the process because that's the thing is like even though Bear's speed is that, you know, I work with a whole bunch of other artists like on the production side, so it's like, you know, I know some people you might yeah, like the link them get like two songs, that session, a song, that session, but you know, everybody's got their speed. But the thing is is they record pretty quick, but like when I'm inspired, like I'll make a whole bunch of beats. Like, you know, I have days where like it'll just be like 20 this day, like another 15 the next day, another 20 the next day. I just like stack them up. So whenever like he's ready to lock in, you know, it's literally just me scrolling down the folder. You know, that's a lot of beats too. yeah it's not like like you guys are matchmaking how many beats yeah you can keep up with his pace can keep up with his pace?

I've never made 20 beats in a day. I was like looking at you like bruh bruh I think I have one you're a Pope different yeah you're you're a Pope you're Pope baby. Yeah, you're a Pope baby. Side of the spectrum. Yeah, there you go, that's fine. So Popstar FM. Yes, sir. That is the brand, that is the business. What is like the vision for Popstar FM? Like, what are you working towards? You know what I mean? Yeah, right now it's more so focused on the indie label side, but then the big big big picture. I'm thinking like full service creative agency, or it's just like any type of like goal that needs to be accomplished, can be accomplished. Like if you need branding consultation, like you can come to us if you need you know, a campaign like Shaw and Rand, you can come to us if you want to produce an album, you can come to us if you want to you know throw a crazy festival, you can come to us just like every part of the process, you know. If I want to record a podcast, exactly it exists in Empire.

But so how has it evolved since it first started? Because you said right now it's more like, you know, obviously, you're helping manage bear, you're acting somewhat as a you know, independent label partner of his, right? As well as the management arm. How did it like start though? Like it was was it different when it first, you know, I guess started? Yeah, it was it was a little different when it first started, because when it first first kicked off, it was kind of like just to highlight music in the scene, because like I like within the community and friend groups, like there would be songs, like there was this one Danger Inc. song, um, I think Diamonds before they before they dropped it, like it was like a SoundCloud link that was kind of like a word of mouth type thing. Um, you know, everyone's passing around to each other. So it's like if you were in the loop, you know, you're hearing these songs, the song for like months, but you know, everybody else just had to wait for it. So it's like just being around a whole bunch of artists, you know, like my homie Tony Schnell and other people, like they might do five, six songs with Sensei in the night, and then you know, another night do another five, six songs, they're night do five, six songs, and it'd be like a crazy one that's just in everyone's text messages that this never gets released. It was just like that was a cool song, so it was just kind of made like as an avenue to get all the like loose unreleased cool music from just the like network of people um I was like working with, or that like you know, I wanted to put a spotlight on.

But then uh once uh I met Bear, you know, kind of started being like focusing in on specific artists and like helping with that. Um makes sense. Are are you finding that more enjoyable? Uh it's the it's the same, yeah, yeah, it's just different, different parts of the same general like I do. Yeah. For me, because I'm a producer as well. Sometimes I have artists, you know, that I really believe in or want to push a certain way. And part of that comes from like did you ever produce a song for someone and then you see maybe how their team handled it, and maybe you like you know thought they kind of dropped the ball, maybe they didn't push it right, or then and you kind of wanted to I want to like have a bigger say in that. Like we could have done we could have pushed this better, we could have done this rollout, we could have the song could have been way bigger. That's kind of how it was with Bear, where it's like, you know, I'm just a fan on the outside, but it's like the same thing like, well, if I ever could let them know, I'd be like, maybe you should try this and maybe do this. So you know, when the opportunity came, you know, I'm like, that's kind of what I've been doing online.

Let me just apply that to your actual process. Right. That's dope. So let's kind of rewind, you know. I I hinted at this, but tell the people kind of where you're from, you know, what you were like as a kid, you know, kind of early Popstar Benny. Early Popstar Benny, I'm from uh Cobb County, Marietta, Mableton area. well known as Mob County. Home of the Braves, because they're not in Atlanta anymore. Yeah, yeah. But uh early Popstar Benny, I was pretty, I was a pretty like reserved kid. I definitely just like reading a lot, like uh playing video games a lot, and then that kind of like transitioned to me being like a computer type in the house in the summer kid to like being on a computer, you know, fucking around, finding out how to pirate, you know, it's like let me get this program exactly. Just getting tons of viruses on your friends' computer. Yeah, I was a little bit slicker, okay. Okay, you know, I was not that great.

So once I found out, you know, just getting the anti-malware service, you know, it'll be good. There you go. this guy definitely uses VPNs. Yeah, he just hasn't had but use of these two not reflect the views of the windows like a record show well yeah you know just getting like anything that I thought was cool um you know just like downloading and trying it out so it was like one summer I was like a huge huge Soulja boy fan we'd like see him on YouTube and like see how he was showing that he was like making his beats on FL Studio so it was just like let me download it I downloaded and have like the exact kit that he used to make crank that so I'm clicking on like oh shit that's it so that's how you got your start that's how you inspired me yeah we got a Soulja Boy fan got me wow right here that's amazing I'm on the home time hot thank you thank you Soulja Boy I think we'd love to have you on the podcast I don't love that I don't quite know for sure no definitely that that would be dope. You know so other than making beats though you were also dabbling in like graphic design that was kind of like one of your earlier creative I guess ventures, right and that was was that something you thought was actually more important or like more possible than the beats early on I I think I was like interested in in both kind of like on the same level.

Okay. I mean because that's the thing is like all the creative stuff I do like between DJing and graphic design and making beats and anything else like I just kind of think about them in like the same type of way like you know different software is like rearranged but still just like same tools. Yeah yeah, like your mind's working similarly. Yeah, exactly. No matter what like craft you're applying to you. Exactly. Because when I'm doing like like production stuff, you know, that might like give me DJ ideas while I'm doing DJing stuff. I'm like thinking about you know like the different ways like things mix and you know might like cross over to like me trying stuff in the you know design sphere. So it's definitely like just all the interest, you know, I feel like I was kind of just doing them at the same level, not like let me make this my main hustle and then the other ones, you know, just doing it, you know, just like let me just do it all because that's kinda I mean for better or for worse, like why I feel like my process is the way it is, because it's like yeah, let me just go like all in and I just try. So so what was your hustle like as a graphic designer specifically?

Like how how were you getting clients um just through through Twitter through Twitter and Instagram like word of mouth because um it's kind of like leaving comments being like you know you know neat graphic design Not those people. And like 100 emojis or something Was that you? No, it was just um I mean I was kinda lucky because when I like was first starting, like it was people like LVRN, like they had a pretty big like movement in Cobb slash Atlanta. So it's like people just seeing like my work through them, um, you know, they hit me and then like it kind of snowballed because I was able to do like a yachty cover um through that, and yeah, like really just like a word of mouth, just like kind of staple Atlanta underground scene thing. you're like oh you need cover art like you can go to Manny you know it's kinda like Did you do a bad bad not good cover? I did. That's I looked them up. I did.

I looked them up. Is this the same bad bad Not Good? They're a Canadian jazz ensemble. Yeah, yeah. But they have like millions and millions and millions of millions and millions of streams. Superstars. Yes. How did that happen though? Sliding in the DMs? Nah, like I said, the word of mouth. because it was literally up in Canada, a jazz ensemble. How did Lil Yachty's cover art get up to that? They're actually like big down there. What do you know? I know a lot of people swear by Bad Bad Not Good. You know who they are? Yes, 100%. I had no idea who the fuck they were. Yeah, no, they're pretty good. Well, it was my homie Marvel Alexander. Um he had like an internet collective called Modern Outfit. And that was like um around like 2013, 2014, like I kind of started getting my name up in the design and uh production. So like he had like an internet collective that had like producers and artists and graphic designers, like people from kind of spread out all over America. I think like someone from Oregon, there's someone in like New Jersey.

I think Marvel was originally from Jersey, but he was out in Cali. So like he would start getting like kind of crazy opportunities and just like relay any side thing he could to me. Um so yeah, he like dad just called me probably like 4:30 and the evening out the blue. He was like, you know, I'm gonna bad bad right bad bad not good right now. They're um they gotta submit their art in like an hour. So if you could just send somebody some ideas over, he's really setting you up for success there. Yeah, but you pulled through him? Yes. I got in Photoshop and literally like made like 30 different variations of it. In an hour, yeah. Because I mean I had fucked with Bad Bad Not Good because like they had started doing like odd feature covers, odd feature jazz covers. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they did that. I was just wondering, like Odd Future was blowing up. So like when Tyler did his first tour, they were like, they at first they were doing covers, but then Tyler actually linked with them and did like some official ones that kind of like transitioned. Yeah, some original.

I think like all their like their first two albums were like most of like covers of um classic hip hop and just like shit like Tyler. Um was coming out around then, but yeah, then they started transitioning to the originals. But by that point, they were definitely like a force, and like now, it was crazy then, but now like I mean I don't think they've only dropped maybe one or two albums since then. Like I think like one like Ghostface Killah and like that's hard. Yeah. It really is impossible And Ghost is one of them. that is hard. Is uh is is Tony Snow how you like is the graphics how you linked with Tony? Did you do cover art for him first? Yeah, yeah, that's literally that's literally how I ran into him because it was like I don't know how he got my number, but it was like the middle same thing. I'm telling that's one thing that's consistent about like everything that's happening to me, is like a lot of like kind of pivotal things. Like, I'll literally just be chilling at my house, like it'll just be the middle of the evening, and someone will like calling me out the blue.

So it was like a number I've never seen before called, and I picked up and then yeah, he was like, yo, um, I'm Tony Snow. I need some cover art. You know, he uh he was like, you know, uh how'd you get my number? I was confused. He was like running me through, and he was like, Yeah, you know, I just I'm trying to drop a couple singles, whatever. Like, if you um he's like, you know, I don't got PayPal or nothing, but you can just slide on me to get it. Straight cash. Literally, so I was like, all right, you know, I ain't doing nothing, so I knocked it out real quick, and then like took the bus to his side of town. Like, he was like on the farther end of Marietta, so like it was like an hour and a half of bus ride, but I was like, I don't got nothing else to do. So like I was like, I'm on the bus to get his money. I was just linked with him, like he just hit me every time he needed cover art, so I would like link with him. He'd of course be like hearing his songs throughout the process, so like it um became a point where like I was starting to become a fan too, and then like he had already knew that I made beats, so it was just like at a point where like you know, I'd go over there to like pick up the money for the cover art, but I just end up like kicking it with him for like an hour or two. So then like that transition to like me being over there and like going to studio with him and getting it in. yeah, it sounds like a cover art drug deal to me.

I'm just saying, Art? Yeah. did anyone follow you? Yo, how about how much for the pound of graphics? Uh fixing scenes in his car. So his latest project Reflections, fire. Amazing. Did you get on that production-wise? Yeah, I was on uh the big star track. Okay, yeah, I figured. Because Pitchfork said the beats, the beats push his words into another dimension. Some of the best of the year. That had to be fire to see that. That was definitely crazy. Right? I mean, and I was hoping that you had a beat on there because I was like, if he didn't, then this would just be like so. All those other producers why does the bridge even reveal? You got killed on Pitchfork for it. And I did the skits on there too. Okay, cool. Um, but yeah, no, I was definitely, yeah, glad to get on that project because Tony's process is like kind of similar to Bear's where he'll just record like I mean I think he's done like 40 songs in the past month, so he'll just like record, record, record, and then like when it's you know, when it's about that time, you know, he'll like start singling out the songs that he really really likes. So it was like, yeah, that big one.

We did that back in October, and I've just been you know sitting on it waiting for a time. But I mean he did specifically say that he liked that one a lot. But for me, like with that many songs, like do you think he's forgetting about like some of the better ones? Like, do you actually go back and listen to like you you would think that someone would get lost in the vault, but it really doesn't. matter. they really do. That's crazy. I mean, especially like the really good ones, because that's the thing, it might be one that they like didn't care about so much like earlier in that they'll like rehear later and be like, oh, that's crazy, I remember. But there's ever like ones that maybe you're like, oh yeah, that's the hit of the night, like pretty cool. They're gonna, yeah, even if it's like deep deep in the notes, deep deep in the files, like it's gonna stick out. Yeah, it like sticks too. Yeah, because that was the thing. When we were pulling for the bear uh album, you know, it was definitely like had a whole whole bunch to pull from, but there was like already some specific key ones that we knew to like highlight early session time, so yeah, for sure. So if you had to create a rap super group with Tony Snow and Bear One Boss, and let's say two other people, who would the two other rap super group members be?

Okay, okay. And maybe a name for the group if we can get that. Yeah, okay, Wait, because isn't Spotify doing that thing where you can, like make a group and call that something? You can you can like create like just a super group and like call it some weird name. I don't know. Pretty sure Spotify's doing something like this, but okay. It's Tony. It's Tony and Bear. It's Bear, okay. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Quavo. Okay. I'm gonna say Quavo, because I feel like that's like a meeting point of like Bear's melodicness and like Tony's more trapness. Okay. Okay, what else I'm going to throw in this current landscape. Fucking he's just vibing at the Jeopardy music. He doesn't care. I am I really do like it. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. He's going to sample it later. Yeah, honestly. Yeah, we're gonna get on the next bear project. Was that for Jimmy? Okay, Raps, we're good. Fourth member. Don't start this.

Yeah, because I was about to I know. He's trying to distract you. He's going to give him an hour. Exactly. Um, Quavo. That's one of them. Yeah, we need one more. Damn. Fucking. Because I feel like there'd be some easy ones to say, but like strategically. I want to say like a BabyTron. Maybe like just hard. Let's do it. Yeah. Final answer. Final answer. What's the name? Um the pop stars. The meat. Fair enough. So they're friends but foreign. That's fine. So, you know, you mentioned kind of like early on, really focusing on the few different like creative bags that you had, like kind of equally, right? Like, not necessarily one taking huge precedence over the other, but like, where would you rank your DJ skills?

You know, like just literally how good you are in comparison to how good you are as a producer, how good you are as a graphic designer, right? Like, kind of where would you rank it? I rank my DJ skills like out of 10, or like yeah, just like are you like better as a DJ than you are as producer, you think, or like I think um I I want to say equally. The only reason why I'm gonna take my DJing down the peg is because like I can definitely like rock a party, but like and now I need to get into the actual like scratching and little hand techniques. But I can like I can rock and party start to finish, but the theatrics, like a little like the showmanship, yeah, flair. That's what yeah, that's what I figured. That takes practice. Yeah, but I definitely like I mean, as far as party rocking, I'm gonna say that's that's as good as my beats. There we go, and that's the most important part of DJing. Exactly. To play the right music. and so I mean, I would maybe think you're gonna say equal, but like how do they rank as far as what you like the best? Like, if you could become, you know what I mean?

Like, if one, if they're gonna pay you equally, right? And like the the opportunities were equal, like which do you like best? You know what I mean? It's production, but DJing, I mean, DJing is kind of just like a more like fun thing for me. Um, because it'll definitely like you know, you gotta leave the house. Yeah, like I'm getting I'm gonna see that, but like it really like be around people. It like feeds into our production because it's like it's like experimenting with like production ideas. It's like, all right, what would this particular you know bounce sound like at a higher tempo? Or what would like this genre's like low end and bass line sound like with this genre and like other things? So it's like they're giving me like you know, that's kind of like why my style is like the way it is, like kind of taking the hard Atlanta stuff and like implementing like indie and synth and 80s and just other types of influences because like DJing is like you know, literally hearing like a Cyndi Lauper thing over like a 21 Savage bassline, it's like, oh, that would be cool. Like, let me do that in beats. So it's like, you know, giving me like a whole little experimentation course.

I saw it. So tell us about the time that you DJed for Yachty. Man, that was one of the craziest underground shows I've probably ever DJ'd because it was like 2016, right? Um right when one night came out. Okay. So it was like not even right when it came out, it was right when it was like crossing over. Like, I don't know if that one guy made that meme video yet, but I think I think it was like right when it was like blowing up. So it was like it was already put like momentum-wise, like picking up like Larry League had a headline show at Masquerade at one of like the smaller rooms, like a couple months before. So, like this show was like a follow-up one, just like at the biggest room, I think like maybe 400 capacity more. So it was like a thousand people, like wall to wall, stage to stage type shit. And yeah, it was just How did you get that call? Just it was being mixed because I already DJ'd for uh Larry League, like I was like the go-to DJ.

So like because it was the sequel to the other show, like I was just there. Um you already did a cover art for him. Yeah, exactly. So it was just like DJs too. Get him on the phone. But is it something because his DJ couldn't come too? No, it was um, no, the way they structured the show, it was kind of like Larry League's people meets Yachty's people. So it's like Yachty's DJ, like we were literally going back and forth. Like he would play like a couple tracks, I would play like a couple track type things. Yeah, but that was crazy and crazy. But like I said, it was right when one night came out. So it was like a whole like everybody cameras up type moment. Yeah. Are you DJing for Bear? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you have some shows we have mixes already made. Um it's because like able to kind of take it even further than like, like I said, the extra real life showmanship DJing thing, like doing like the crazy drops and transitions and thing. Like yeah, that's super quick.

But um, yeah, it's kind of just a show by show basis, like how we run it. But like you know, you're typically up there even if you're not doing the most. Yeah, because we have started implementing the auto-tune live. Yeah. So yeah, that really takes it there. Yes. Wait, how do you do that? Um buy it, auto tune live. Yeah, yeah, you gotta get tapped in. Well, no, like seriously for artists out there that like don't know really how to I'm sure they could Google, but like, no, no, I would actually google a little tutorial. Um, it's just having because I record all our stuff on logic on my laptop. So I have a template, like, it's literally our recording template that has like literally our recording template that has like you know, little EQ, little effects, but then just auto-tune um running, and then when we get to the venue, I'll bring my interface. So I'll just have them like run a mic directly into the interface and then out about the interface into their sound systems. So that's all it is, it's all software with the same interface you use for everything else.

Clearly. Because I thought you could buy some new interface because someone had sold us on. You can't do it that way, yes. Yeah, yeah. Someone had sold us on some like box that you could get. Yeah, and I was like, I don't know about that. Yeah, but now that um we start using the live auto-tune, you know, sometimes it's definitely just easier to have the Mitch running and then me making sure that the like always, he's not sounding like super exactly you have to change the key. Exactly. For every song. Yeah, so I have the key but it still is just a matter of actually like clicking between them. Yeah. Yeah. So like this song's ending in like a shit, like the G minor. Exactly. Damn. So there's no like way to automate that. Yeah, there might be. I mean, like I said, I already got the tracks queued so it's only just me like clicking down. But yeah, they definitely might. Don't be slipping, man. It would sound really weird if he's tuned up in the wrong notes. Yeah, exactly. That's funny. Another story that I thought was, you know, pretty interesting and and you know, could I guess teach some people some you know valuable lessons, right? Tell us about the Alamo Records sessions where you you know got to meet Rod Wave, right?

Because from what I heard, there was maybe two vastly different experiences, right? Uh you know, because they had set you up with a couple of different artists to to come work with. So tell us about maybe that first room you were in with the first artist that that you were working with. How did that go? I got you. Yeah, shout out to um no shout out to Alamo Records because it was my homie uh Bell over there. He had hit me up out in the blue. Um I said I was just chilling at work, got text in the middle of the day, like, hey, you know, our artists are in town, we want to come through place of beats. So as soon as I got off, you know, I hit Mike and um me and him slid over there. But yeah, it was Rod Wave and one other artist, and like when I first first got there, I think like we went in the room with Rod, and like he was like in the middle of recording, so he was like, Yo, the other artists, you know, you can go and just play some stuff for him. So like plug in my laptop every single beat I played, like 10 seconds in next, next, next, next. And I'm just like, yo, please just tell me you're not rapping any of them.

Cause my thing is like I have a whole, like, like I said, I've been doing like my beats in bursts, so I have a whole folder that's just like hundreds and hundreds of beats. So I was like, bro, like, until you be like, I mean, I guess he thought, because some of the other producers were coming in, you know, already having like packs prepared, and like, you know, they'd run like their 10 and like get to the bottom of it, but like I feel like that was my advantage of having like all my beats. So I'm just like running through them, but I feel like in some weird universe way that like kind of worked out because like I was going through like literally like 60, 70, 80, 90 beats, and like Rod's manager would come in every um now and again and just be like, oh yeah, when you get in the room with Rod though, like pull this up for him, type shit. You know, whatever. So I was just like going through and like everybody was just telling me no on all of them. So then like How do you respond to that? I mean, it's it's really it's the game, because it's like, like I said, I saw it happen with the other producers before me, so I wasn't like absolutely tripping.

But I mean it's a dice roll. I mean, because that's the thing, like whenever you're trying to get beats to an artist, like you just have to hope like that that particular thing that they hear like meets their mood at that time. You know, it's like timing is just very important. Because I've been in sessions where like they're pulling up beats from like superstar people, and like the artist just at the time, like might not, you know, care or want that exact vibe. So you just like skip on it. So that was the thing. Like I feel like earlier in you might like want to take it as like an ego bash like damn like maybe I'm like good enough type thing. But then like when you see this like just the process like superstars are shooting their shots to artists too and it might not stick. So I didn't think anything of it. I was just like please just be like I don't think I'm gonna fuck with any of these. So I can just, yeah, I can just stop playing because like I said every other because I think there's a producer two before me and like they just had their like 10 so like they got to the bottom of it is like yeah I'm not fucking with any of them. Did this guy just not want to make any music that's that's also in retrospect he was just like not wanting to record things he was done he was like yeah my label got me here to 11 I also kind of think you know when you have like 50, 100 beats and you tell an artist knows that it might be easier for them to like okay well we got 100 more let's just keep going but he was skipping through the people that only had 10.

Yeah I mean I just think I mean but then I want to say when I finally did get off the aux that he started playing some of the stuff that he was working on. It kind of was like a hard shift from my style but on the flip side like you know I just feel like you know just communicate I don't know if this is my style then I'm gonna go forward. But then on the flip side like I said that did give Rod's manager the chance to like kind of pre-screen beats to like the second I got in Rod's room and started playing them like I was playing the ones that the manager specifically was talking about and I got to play it and like he would like start freestyling like from start to finish. Like I think one of the ones that he actually recorded on and dropped, like he freestyled like a good like 70% of it when he heard it. So it was just like, yeah, the first guy, like I couldn't, you know, get past 20, 30 seconds and Rod, like I would want to go to the next one, but he would be fucking with it and like already rapping to it, so I'll just let the whole like two to three minutes run and then like try another one. So yeah, he picked out like six of them.

And then um that's a huge lesson, I feel like for the you know, you know, for all the producers out there to be honest, man. Like you I would have felt so depleted, man, after that. I don't know how y'all do it. When when he's playing beats for artists, like if I'm helping set up a session and I'm here and he's playing beats, I'm like nervous as fuck myself. I mean, I'm like I'm like looking at the artist, like god damn. And like if they don't, like I'm starting to feel some kind of way. So like I don't know how y'all deal with it, because yeah, like but it's not that I guess you just can't take it super. It's hard. Oh, I mean, because that's the thing is like, I mean, I record with Bear all the time, and it's like I might have like a new pack of beats that is just like if that's just not what he's on at that time, like sound wise or whatever, like despite him fucking with me or despite like my beats being good, you know, there's no knock to that. It's just like nothing's sparking in his brain when he hears that, so it's like he's gotta meet people set up. But I feel like the only way, I'll say the only way, but like the way I kind of get around that though is by like making as many beats as possible.

Cause then I just feel like I don't really go in like let me make these specific types. I'm just like if I make 50 beats, then they'll probably be like six that I know are a particular bear style or seven that I know like I can send this person. So I was like I just feel like it's a number game. Yeah. How many beats do you send in a pack? Um We've had this debate before. Yeah, I kind of go back and forth now. Now I'm kind of locked in on like the four, four four, yeah, four is my solid number. But if it's someone that like I work with like heavily, then like I might send like eight or ten, like if they're like locked in, like if Bear's, like, out in LA, he's at a studio, and like you know, I haven't sent beats in a while, like I'll send them like 10. Or like if there's someone that like you know, I sent them a four-pack and then like they recorded on two of them and they sent them back real quick, and I'm like, okay, they're in a record mode, let me send eight. But like I feel like four is good because like I said, it's one of those things where like people either don't like the beats or they won't, like they need to be in that mood or they won't.

Because I've been in the studio with my friends, like Tony and shit, and it's like you know, they'll go through their email and like you know, just listen to the first like three or four, and it's like the producer might have sent 12, but like if they're not in that mood and those first four don't strike them, then they're not really caring to force it on the other ones. And there might have been two or three later that they didn't get to that they would have really fucked with. Exactly. Kind of forcing people's picking options, yeah. Cause that's how like I would do cover arts too. Like when I would send um, you know, versions for people to pick. Like, I definitely I try to send like three or four, um, so that you know, people have different options, but on the flip side, it's not like getting 12 of them to where they could be like, Well, I really like these three, and then just like them trying like to single it out, you know, like it'd be kind of like limited. Yeah, so giving them choice, but yet not like overwhelming them with yeah, even just a tight choice. People just love the feeling of being able to choose.

Exactly. I do that with like mastering I do like mastering gigs. I'll do you know, three versions, right? This one's you know, kind of like a safe level, this one's kind of pushing it, and this one's like kind of cranked. Yeah, you know, this one is different. Like the 12 specific, like this is this little editing, this is this little edit. But it's like, yeah, for most people, like you know, I feel like that gets them too like caught up and trying to think about it. So yeah, definitely the the longer I've been in it, I've been leaning towards shorter packs. Cause I've done it where like I straight up if A and R hit me, like, because I've been making so many beats, I'll go and pick 30, 40 and put it in the Google Drive. I feel like that wasn't any more effective than just like sending a handful. Because that's the thing too. Like, if someone is really like if you send four and like they're really fucking with you, like they'll just ask for more, like real quick. So it's like you don't need a guy to be like, well, let me send 12 just in case. It's like send their four, and if they run through those four, then they'll hit you back and be like, yeah, just send some more exactly. And four can fit usually in an email, it's less than 25 million bucks.

Yeah, yeah, that's it too. That's a joke. Clearly. yeah, because three-four, that's definitely it. And if you send waves and they gotta download them, artists don't like that. Well, yeah, I think it was XL Eagle who produced T-shirt by the Migos, and he just did Tommy Lee with Post Malone and Tyla. So he's yeah, he's he's dope. You know, he was on a podcast talking about I think it was him talking about similar to your strategy, less quantity in a single pack, but following up with more packs. So as opposed to sending the 12 in one pack consistency, break it into three, like one one week, maybe a week or two later, follow up with hey, yeah, you know, here's another four. Okay, that like you know, here's another four, right? Because to your point, you might think that they listened to all 12 and that those are not the ones, but they really only listen to the first three or four. Exactly. So they could be you know sleeping on like the one that they actually want to get to. That's excellent.

Oh, that's interesting. Um, so obviously, Bear just dropped, you know, that's a pop star related uh you know event. What else are you excited about? Like what's coming up in the you know, pop star bang world. Definitely excited about really just the tail end of the year because we um we threw our first show that like we ever presented and put together and everything. okay when was that? It was January, yeah, right at the end of January. So definitely, what was the what was the like theme you know, I mean, like was it a concert or like kind of what did y'all do? Yeah, it was a uh concert at I Five. It was um Bear, Tony Snow, Muddy Maya, Mercury, um 2007 was really hard indie band, and um there's one other person. Yellow bandana, yeah.

He's a crazy performer. Yeah, yeah, without um yeah, sold out crazy, crazy, crazy. Wow, crazy sold out, yeah. First show it's like a 300, 400 cap, right? Yeah, type of room. And it definitely seemed like it was like way more people. Yeah, I couldn't get in type shit. So it's like amazing yeah, definitely just trying to have the right powered follow-up, but yeah, definitely getting into more um shows and events now that things are kind of back, like open and active Yeah, okay, cool. So definitely looking out for some. Like, is that still like a pop star present, pop star FM presents type of deal? Yeah, yeah. Okay, dope. Are you hosting it? Like, you know and spinning, you know, records all night, or I'm definitely gonna be DJing, but it's it's more to emphasize the um the act. Okay. Yeah that's definitely my thing where it's like how I DJ that that Yachty show like a long time ago just like kind of restoring that feeling to where like because like I said like leading up to it there was like a whole bunch of shows where it'd be like Danger Inc Larry League Slime Cito Guala you know Yachty K Supreme it's like people coming up but that was a thing too I mean then they have like this rock band Seaghost and a couple other people um but yeah like going to shows and being part of shows around that time like I feel like gave me my kind of inspiration base of like now that I'm in a position where I can like present them and get people together for them I'm like what crazy combinations of like shows can we give like to the kids type shit. yo Well that's awesome man no I I think you had a great story obviously like you're definitely hard to miss so I saw you in a bunch of things and you know I I definitely mistook you for 2 Chainz as well a little disappointed when I ran into you and you weren't him but but no you know love love what you're building you know with the pop star shit um you know love the new project you know from your artist Bear love the production that you got going on man super dope we're now about to enter a final segment of the podcast Henry where are we at buckle up Benny this is the rapid fire rampage yo could I be pop star then if I joined pop star

Or would I like conflict with Benny? It's a little close. Too close it's it's close. Alright. Here we go. Oh, I mean, my first name is Thomas. I can be Pop Star Tommy. Yeah. There we go. All right. That'll be my pop star, man, when I get the offer. We'll give you that. So this is the Rapid Fire Rampage. It's uh sort of the game show kind of segment here at the end. We like to have a little fun. It's a three-part rampage. I'm gonna fire some short answer questions at you. Okay. Part two, we're gonna do this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. You pick one. Okay. Part three is gonna be a word association. I'm gonna shoot one word at you and just fire off the first thing that comes to your mind right back at me. So starting with part one is the short answer, episode 64 with pop star Benny. This is the rapid fire rampage. Let's go. Let's get it. What is your favorite smell? Probably probably not like that. Probably some type of candle. Candle, yeah. What's uh um I I like I like the more nature leaning scents. Yeah. The sea salt. I'll walk in sea salt, anything sea related.

There we go. That that definitely threw me for a curveball there, by the way. Didn't expect that because I was thinking of my answer and I was like, where my head just went, but in the next 20 seconds, teach me something. Okay. Clouds. They're formed. Um the sun makes the vapor evaporate, vapor goes up Then all the vapor when it's high up and comes together. formulates a cloud. 20 seconds cloud explanation. Wow, then when does it rain? When's it raining when the uh clouds get too heavy? Wow. Yeah. Fantastic. I haven't heard that since fourth grade science class. Yeah. Definitely didn't know that. Yeah. you must pick only three types of sounds to make beats with for the rest of eternity You can't say drums. You have to say, like, snare. Okay. Three types of sounds I only make beats with. Okay. You can't say synth either, that's too general.

Okay. Let's get in there. Specific sounds, Benny. Specific sounds. I'ma go. I'ma go guitar. What kind of guitar? Electric guitar. Okay. Some type of I don't know specific synth type sounds, but I wanna say like a sound that Prince would use, a synth that Prince would use. Like a pad, maybe? Like a softer. Yeah, okay. A guitar, electric guitar, soft pad. Ooh, making the hardest sound ever. taiko Japanese drums, that's where we're going. Fire, love it. Benny, if you could pick any sport where the players had to be a certain level of drunk, which sport would you choose? Hockey. Oh yeah, easily. they kind of seemed like they're already. Yeah, just push it all the way through.

Yeah, just take it there. Yeah, drum, on coke. I'm not really sure what they got on there, but you're given five dollars for every unfinished beat on your hard drive. How many boxes of frosted flakes can you buy? Um I'd definitely be trying to go back and finish them. So I'm I'm gonna say maybe like you know at this point, I've had the hard drive for years. So maybe like 30? Yeah, like 30, like like 30. Okay. What size? What size frosted flakes are you talking about? There's no additional info here. Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm just walking 30. It sounds about right. Okay, he's only getting 30 frosted flakes boxes. I've got a lifetime supply. Yeah. That's not something to be proud of, Henry. Well, Benny how many pairs of shoes and how many hats do you want? Shoes, I think like maybe like 10 pairs, but hats. Maybe like 30, 40 minutes.

Oh yeah, big hat. Okay. Live truckers? Yeah, it's swag right now. Hey, yeah, on average, how many times do you look at a text before responding to it? Like I don't know, I'm kinda bad at that. I'll read it, and then I'll be like, I'm gonna definitely reply to this. And then I'll go back and read it and be like, oh yeah. Now I'm ready to reply to this. And then I'll go back and read it. And sometimes I'll be scrolling the other text, and I'll be like, oh yeah, let me see. So maybe like maybe like six times. Six. Okay. I think I'm right out there. Wow. You guys are really overthinking this whole text and back thing. Exactly. Fair enough. He gets it. Ben you know, scale of one to ten. How would you rate Ben as an interviewer? I'm gonna give my boy ten. Oh shit. Mama, I mean all 10?

Yeah, I mean a whole 10 out of 10. I mean I watched a lot of interviews, so it's like sometimes people don't be on it like that. Yeah. That's right. Shout out one more time. You wake up in the middle of a zombie apocalypse was your first move. I haven't thought about this a couple times. I was like, I thought about it this morning. So it's like because that's the thing, it's like this is zombie apocalypse, like on like one end of it is like you can enjoy a lot of shit. Cause it's like, all right, we're probably not thinking about like money anymore. You just walk in the store, but then it's like a lot of shit's gonna be fucked up because we don't got no like maintenance or no extra shit. Oh yeah. So I'm gonna say um find all the weed I can consume it, and then just jump off something. I'm I'm not I'm not trying to kick it out of the bottle again know no it's definitely I love it as high as possible as possible. That is incredible. Yeah, this is this is uh he's going straight from the trap house. Yeah, shifting it to kind of the more serious cards on here.

How many beers could you consume before passing out? I'm a big guy. I'm also a skinny guy. I'm a big guy I'm a skinny guy. So you're like an average guy? I'm an average dude, so I'm gonna say average guy, probably like he's 6'10. He's not average at all. I'm a sleepy guy too, though, so I'm gonna say like seven. I'm gonna say seven, I never tried it. I'm gonna just say seven. Oh, like just passing out from being a little sleepy off the booze, not like from a yeah, I mean, I'm like yeah, yeah, maybe like not not cause I feel like like a sick, like tap out point, maybe like nine, ten, but like a like alright. I'm probably like bumping into something, I'm gonna go to sleep like seven. Okay, fair enough. There you go. Wrapping up the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? So many good ones. There are. Oh, how can I pick this one? I picked this one. Really, because they don't use them in the combos, but The combos.

Probably um, probably should. I feel like there you go, I think that's our first shit. It's our first shit. It's our first shit on the one time. Fuck fuck is very easy. we got a hell now. My favorite's hell yeah. Hell yeah! Yeah, I'm gonna change my vote. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, nah. Shit needs its vote, man. Yeah, we're locking in shit. Shit is locked. Shit's like, casual, like, with the shit. I don't know if it's the K in it or what, but it feels just like a little sharp. It's harsh. Yeah, I feel like a little, like, too, you can say it was shit. I feel like that was sly, you're not thinking specifically, like, oh, he said shit. But fuck, that was like gonna draw attention. Yeah, like oh you really mean that. Yeah, like shit is kind of still one of those ones where like you could sneak around a conversation of like people you don't really know, and they might look at you that like judgy. But if you say fuck, someone's looking at you like yeah. It's like a hard thing. Either a curse person or not, exactly. It's like super innocent, it's shitty. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, yeah. You say it's fucky, then you're like, fucking awful out there today. Whoa, buddy, okay, moving on to be this or that portion. That was a good part one. Great part one. Great answers. See if you can follow it up here. Collapse or snares? Collapse. DJing or graphics. DJing. Jazz or country. Damn. Country low key. Country's like undefeated, making a comeback. Four minute songs or minute and a half songs. Minute and a half, all day. Who got time for that? Just make another song. Just make almost almost three songs. How do you think they're these maybe he's making you know 16 in two days? Yeah, they're not five minute ballads. Yeah. Wayne or Gucci? Okay. Make beats with your feet or make beats on a phone? on a phone. Give up showers or give up underwear.

Damn. Give up underwear. Oh, for sure. Yeah, I give up. I'm going commando all day. It's smelling like a bouquet of flowers. at least my balls are hanging out. Give up smartphones or give up cheese. That's fucked up. Yeah, that's the most fucked up. You're wrong for that one, man. I know, I hate that one. It's the toughest one for sure. Because cheese is involved in so much. So it's like blander, food, but I got a smartphone. I give up. Can I? I can't the cheese. Wow. Tough. Tough. I just like made my heart skip a little bit. Thinking about having to give up cheese. Anyways, maybe not. Instagram or TikTok? Instagram. But are you on the top? Yeah.

I mean, I was feeling I'm not even on it as much as like people be sending me them hella L's like I'll look out for them on Twitter. Like I feel like TikTok has got, like, the fact that it'd be still finding this way, to me, like I feel like there's funnier stuff. Oh, it's being shared more to Instagram and Twitter, probably than yeah, exactly. For sure. Yeah. Yoda or Darth Vader? That might be damn. they're Both pretty cool dudes. I'm chilling with it. I've never heard of Darth Vader being called a cool dude. Yeah, it's like this is aesthetic, you know. Yeah. That's true. Oh god. Probably Yoda, he got the wisdom. Yeah. Okay, uh Call of Duty or 2K. Um I mean I don't even play either, but probably Call of Duty. I thought the gunshot was a good one.

Um vomit on your hero or have your hero vomit on you. God. It's terrible. Yeah, I mean, I feel like who is your hero? Damn. Ben you want to add parts to the question, please. this is my rampage. Well, I was, I, I need a visual image of who's vomiting on me, but that's my thing. I'm thinking a couple of people are thinking of like Pharrell or Kanye, but that's the thing. I feel like I'd totally vomit on Ye. for sure, but I feel like it'd probably be smoother. I mean, because they vomit on me, it'd be whack, but like if I vomit on them, it'd be like on some, like, they might get me out the game, they'd be like, oh fuck that guy. So you'd be willing to take a face full of vomit to like maybe oh, it didn't specify the face, but I mean, oh I don't know. I figured it would be. I think you're a tall guy. Yeah, yeah. I'll take it, for the bigger picture. I'm gonna change the wording of that. Why did I immediately think that it was on the face? That's a weird assumption.

That was a weird assumption. Ben you got lucky. Moving on. Thank you. Permanently charged phone or permanently fueled car. permanently fueled car, it's got to deal with the gas prices right now, of course. Yeah. Yeah, it's fucked up. Yeah. And you can eat pancakes with every meal or never eat pancakes again. Eat pancakes at every meal. I love pancakes. Do you? Every meal? Forever. Big IHOP guy over here. I hopper. All day. Hopper. I hop. It's a peep hot. God bless, that's great. that's one of the this or that. Win 100K or Mikey wins 1 million. Mikey win one million. That's a game, man. Exactly. it's a lot right there. Part two of the rampage. Part two. Moving on to the final part of the rapid fire rampage. This is the word association.

Hip hop. Anger. Man. Robot. Chicken. Mustard. Ketchup. Piano. Teacher. Drug. Economy. Volcano. Eruption. Chopper. Dealer. That's okay. We had there are receivers out there. Yeah. Well, well, yeah, I don't know if you know the artist named Surf. Yeah. Uh yeah. He answered like everything happens. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Don't do that. I shouldn't have done that with my fucking. Yeah, I just fucked this. I fucked this, Henry, give me a go in. Yeah. Link in bio. Morning. Hop. Catch them. Space. Cream. Corn.

Yo. Producer. Grime. Skateboard. Grime. Oh. This is incredible. Come on. Wow. Two more. Out of it. You can't get over the back-to-back grind. That was something. It makes sense. I don't know who it is, but definitely. See that there's a way. Somewhere. Traffic. Come on. Get away. Mafia. Little. There's a rock in the middle. Oh god, I was here. Okay. But there's a double server out there. Shut up. Bitcoin. Mine. Government. Mining. Prop star.

Mining. Prop star mining. The compilation coming to rampanties. Nope. No one there. He definitely tries to set people up and it really works about 30% of the time. But now it's working. Okay, thank God. Anyway. Can we put that episode of you dunking? Probably not. Oh, but it's a good try. a good try. Yeah, Henry. Henry, until next week, what are we doing? We're getting here. We're getting the fuck out of here. Peace. Middle fang to the law. Yeah.