Beelax on Female DJ Khaled Goals, Going on Tour with Latto, and More -
In this episode of the One More Time Podcast, we interview Beelax who talks about wanting to be the female DJ Khaled, going on tour with Latto, interviewing Coi Leray and more! Beelax is the definition of multi-hyphenate. She is a record producer taking the DJ Khaled approach, DJ, podcaster, radio show host, manager, and real estate investor. Born and raised in Chattanooga, TN, Beelax was a dedicated hooper her whole life. After hanging around producers all throughout college, she decided to pursue a career in music and began DJing. She caught the eye of her mentor, Moran the Man, with an effortless DJ set and the two have been locked in since. Beelax is not the type to wait on placements and likes to make the plays herself. Check out her latest release with artist "Chiae" below and stay tuned for more on the way!
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It's cool to like, oh, I'm trying to get placements to get placements and stuff. But I'm a person by heart. I don't wait on nothing. I don't wait on people. I don't mean waiting. I don't be waiting to see if this gonna get placed. I'm the type of person, I'ma just go with the vibes and energy and go get it. The one more time music podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host, Playback Ben here with my co-host, Henry with a three, aka The Trap Jack Black. Trap Jack Black, who do we got in the hot seat today, my guy? Welcoming in on episode 55 of the One More Time podcast legendary actress and director. She was just a co-host of at the Met Gala yesterday. It's Regina King.
Regina. Y'all see me in front. No, because when you said actress, I already was like, huh. What are you making? me look too good right now? Yo, so many people, like their face turns from like, oh, he's introducing me. No. And then they're like, Does he know who I am? And then they're like, they then the lights lit, you know, light switch fucking clicks on, and they're like, Classic. Oh, okay, he's fucking with me. He fight like literally, but Regina King, though, that's a great one. Yeah. Yeah. I always get I look like so not late then. Oh God. I dropped the ball. I hate I hate when they tell us who they look like, and then it's way better. than whatever you came up with. Legit, I always get people be like, oh, you look like I'm like, oh my god. She's with you. In all seriousness, we have DJ, producer, uh radio show host, podcast host, manager. The list goes on and on. We got Record label owner. Don't forget that one.
Exactly. We got a legend in the building. We got B Lax. B Lax. I gotta represent because like a lot of people gonna put you in a box. You know what I'm saying? Even with you guys, y'all individuals, but a lot of people put you in a box. I have to let people know. Everything. People don't have hard. Most people don't have just one title these days, you know? Like you kind of gotta do more than one thing. I feel like If you want it. Like, I mean, it depends on what you want. True. I know people who don't do more than one thing, but they complacent, they cool with it. And I fuck with them. At the end of the day, that's you. You an individual. I just look at people, individuals like whatever you do is just for you. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Person by person. Yeah, But like your list is pretty fucking long. It is like who do I get this from? Like I mean, like, where's the focus right now mostly? Or do you literally just any given day you're bouncing from like every day I'm bouncing different roles every day? Like all throughout the day. No cat. Really? Totally. You do a little bit of each one every day? No, for real.
Or do you take like a few days to do this? one? Because I'm gonna be real. Like, I would still do a nine to five right now. Cause I'm not like when COVID hit, like I was just like, fuck this. I'm gonna just focus. I got a couple businesses that I know even if a pandemic hit, I'm gonna be good. Cause even with DJing, that's not gonna hold you in the pandemic. You can't be around, you know what I'm saying? So you gotta have passive income. So that was really like my focus. Like when COVID hit, I had already just had bought my house like months before COVID hit, like eight months before. Before I bought a rental property in Atlanta. Like my wife and I have considered that. Is that a pain in the ass, though? For me, right now, it's not I'm a be honest. Because, like, your tenants are cool, and like it's just kind of on, well, from from what I hear, from what I hear, the key is to have a property manager who you break off to just handle everything with the tenants, and then you don't have to even meet the tenants. But do you or or do you manage it? And like deal with the shit? Like now it's not out of my control, so I can manage it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like when it becomes you know when it's gonna be like, okay, I can't do this. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna call, let me hire somebody. $15 an hour. Take care of this assignment. Yeah, but nah, I can do it myself now.
Yeah, that just like, man, you catch a shitty tenant, and it's like right game changing. That's the only part you can't Life is over. No, for real. Like, I have. I'm not gonna say like it hasn't been what, it's been what two years. I had one when the pandemic hit, she was paying on time and then she stopped paying on time. But what I did is I did a short term lease. I didn't do 12 months, I did six months. So I was able to go ahead. I see that you ain't finna be on time. I didn't renew her. Yeah, yeah. That's how I would I'm paying the property manager to handle that shit every time. That sounds like an awkward conversation. I'll make less money. I know I want nothing to do with that. I'm good on that. No way. Y'all don't want to do it. I don't want to do it, but I don't want to deal with people dodging rent. No, no, but yo, so you are pretty fresh off tour. Yes, I'm fresh off the lotto tour. Yo, big lotto, big lotto. Tour. And she's one of the hardest female rappers out right now? Undeniably. rappers, period. But at the end of the day, she's doing her thing, and I was blessed to be a part of her history, like for real. No, facts.
That's facts. So you were DJing for J Young MDK. Yeah, that was the opening act for Lotto. how did that even happen? Shout out to my boy, my my friend, like Jalen Smith. He's a photographer. Like, he cold as fuck, but he always just be like looking out for me, and I look out for him, like with different things, opportunities and stuff. So I just like was just hitting me. it's not the Jalen Smith. The Jalen Smith. He hit me and was like, yo, you trying to go on tour. That was literally the question. Wow. Wow. Because he's his photographer and he's visual content creator. Okay, so it just, you know, I'm like, it's all about who you know. Like, like I'm blessed. Like, I worked hard for that. Cause I've been in the game like five, well, it's been like, shit, it's been like seven years. I'm tripping. Seven years. I got my first bit, like, tour. Yeah. So that wasn't the focus all the whole time. So how was the tour? You know, overall, did you did you feel your performance was, you know? I learned.
I did, I feel like I did good. I feel like you only get better when you starting out. You know what I'm saying? Like, for me, it was a learning experience. I felt like I did my thing too. I got footage. You know what I'm saying? It's footage. How long have you been DJing? These are crazy. They didn't even know the artists and they went crazy. I was checking out the Denver. I was checking out the Denver footage. What I said, I was literally, I'm sorry, y'all. I had to get hype on that one because damn it. Her hat almost flew off. She's so excited about that. I know, like, they literally was doing anything I said. Like, I felt like that energy was good, but then it would be a show. Maybe they maybe like 75% did with you. you know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you were like, yo, get your lights out. And at first you could see their faces of like, okay, I guess I'm doing this for this. You know, assumingly they have no idea who the fuck you are. Right, they don't. And they don't know the artist. In that city, like, they're rough. They don't even know the opening artist, probably. They don't even know the opening artist. They're there for fucking lotto. Yeah. But they're like following your orders, you know. It's like it was crazy to see. And there was no music, because that show in particular, like, I couldn't, I ended up getting on stage late, not saying it was my fault, whatever, but it just like it cut into my music.
Likely story. It cut into, no, for real. it cut into my time. Like, I couldn't fucking do nothing but just like get them lit and then have him come on. Cause normally I would have like a little set before. Yeah. Like I play music. Yeah, exactly. You'd be mixing shit. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But shit. It is what it is. So did you learn something like from Lotto's DJ, for example? Like, are you studying like DJs when you're going out and doing shows? You know what I mean? Like, is that for sure? Lotto DJ went crazy. Like, he legit. Like, I was watching every DJ. Even um, DJ Sosa, he was hard because that was who I would like to link up with when I get on stage and stuff. Yeah. Like, I was able to catch a vibe and watch him. He's really he's too super talented. Period. These niggas hard. So I was watching the good people that can like they got talent. You know what I'm saying? Give us one thing that you like learned that was dope. That like one nice takeaway. The crowd control, like knowing how to talk and engage with the the uh crowd. Yeah, That shit essential. Or just being lit. Like I learned that just you gotta be lit.
Yeah, that's why niggas wanna follow you. Like, you know what I'm saying? If you're not having a good time, why should they have a good time? If you come on a stage, not hype, bruh. Why would they be hype? Right. So it just makes sense. I was like, yeah, I I was keep I was keeping game. That's just true with any social interaction. I feel like energy is so real, Bring the energy. especially like the positive energy, it's infectious for real. Facts. And like people underestimate that shit. Even when you're going into a studio session, when you're just meeting someone networking, like if you come with the energy, when I first met you, it was the same shit. Like you came with that, and I was like, yo, like this girl is someone I want to, you know, be associated with just because I I could feel like you were excited about being where you were at, what you were up to, and like that shit rubs off. Yeah, like I feel that way. I just met you. So there you go. You feel me? You feel like that. That's it. that's we all got good energy, and that's what it's about. Like, I had learned how to bring the energy with people. Like, don't be scared of fear, like fuck that. You can still have discernment and know when to trust, you know what I'm saying?
Certain situations, but you know, live life. Yep. Yep. So, So tell us a little bit about you know where you're from, you know, kind of your your upbringing, right? Early. Yeah, Chattanooga, Tennessee. Shout out to Chattanooga. You know what I'm saying? Did they say chat town? I was about to say that. No, I didn't know if I was making it up. No, Chattown. That's it. Nice. They call us chat rats. I like your Ruby Falls. Such a touristy thing to do. Yeah, Ruby Falls, like, yeah, exactly. So it's a tourist city. It's probably where you went on the field trips. In my opinion. I said that was probably where you went on the field trips, like to Ruby Falls. No, did we not? We went to the aquarium. Okay. Yep, that's it. That too. I've never been to Ruby Falls, actually. What? Yeah. It's a tourist thing. She's a local. Like, I'm in the city. So you said something about like having vision outside your circumstances. Mm-hmm. But so, like, paint me the circumstances, right? Because clearly you had a bigger vision than whatever you kind of grew up in. But like, you know, when you said that, what did that mean?
I mean, basically, where I come from is a small city, you know what I'm saying? People just stuck in their own world doing the same stuff. Like, for me, I always knew I wanted to do something different. Like growing up, I wanted to. That's why I went out to college. Like, I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna go out to the city, a different state. I didn't care where it was. I just knew I had to go. I had to go somewhere because I want to experience something different. I know this ain't the only thing. You feel me? So for me, it was just about just keep grinding and figuring out what I like to do. Yeah, because a lot of people stayed in the town. A lot of people stay in the town, but it's nothing against them. No, I'm just saying, sure. No. But but that was their path, and that was a pretty common. They're doing their thing in the city for sure. So for me, it was like I had to get out. I had to do something different. My parents, I had just I my dad had literally, when I was four years old, he just got out of prison. I met my dad at four. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know who he was before then. So he just got out of prison. Then we built a relationship starting from there. And he was the best father.
Like, yeah, because he was married to my mom. He just got caught up in some stuff. Yeah. For sure. So I heard you were a hooper. Yeah. Uh-oh. Hoop game. I myself. Hoop life. Am a hooper. What? Yeah. You finna bar pick up? Get a one-on-one going? we have a league. She could probably take me. We have a league that we uh play in. It's like a pickup league on Sundays. Cam Kirk, you know, the photographer. He has a league out of like this gym off Old National down in College Park. So yeah, there's there's some music people and stuff too. Yeah, there's there's there's some girls there sometimes. Okay. I'll be honest, it's it's mainly male. Right. But you know, I understand. but look, you just got the invite. Yeah, for sure. I'll pull it up. Yeah, because I mean you went to you went to college even playing ball, right? Yeah, I went to Georgia perimeter, which is now Georgia State. Yeah, and I went to Gaston. Okay. Gadsden State. And that was in Alabama. So I did JUCO. I got a scholarship out of high school to go to University of Alabama in Huntsville, but I couldn't meet the requirements with the ACT or yeah, it was like I was a point away. You know, like I'm gonna go juco.
Then I thought I was gonna go to the university, but I did go to the university, I just fuck, said fuck basketball. Like I wanted to do everything. Like that shit just kept me. Y'all are too late. I'm talented as fuck, but I just felt like it just wasn't working out. Like I'm I was really cold in what I did. What'd you play? In my city, if you they know me because I know I was a hooper. What position? Uh point guard. Point. Then I could do guard too. Yeah. But I love to drive to the hole. Like ball, Like that was my thing. Yeah, okay. Yeah, she's still serving up assists today. So that part what was your what was like your earliest memory of music, right? Was it just in the household, like playing, you know, your your mom was playing shit, or kind of like you know what I mean? Like, like, you know, what's your like earliest memory of music? I'm always curious, people. My sister, I always go say I'm always gonna say this because Brian with her, I had a sister that was 18 years older than me. Oh shit. So I was on the music, she was putting me on her music, you know what I'm saying? As a baby. One month, like one month years old. So it was like, I'm listening to what she listening to, plus the new shit.
So I always had like an old soul and everything I did, like just having that soul, you know what I'm saying? Like real aware and loving love. It's about love at the end of the day. That music back then was about love. You had triumph too, but it wasn't like people dwelling on it all the time. It was it was mainly about love. That's what I take from that music. More than it is. having a good time. Good energy. yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, so best of both worlds to me. That was I get the old school in the new school. And so, you know, just having listened to music, you know, around your sister and others, right? Right. At what point then does it shift to like, oh, like I'm into this, you know, for me, not because it's being like in you know, and brand she played it for me, and she always we would vibe to the old school. I felt like it was more like when I instantly heard it. That's what I felt like. Like you knew you wanted it to be a part of your life. And it kept being even when I was hooping, I would play RB, I would play RB before a game. Yeah, I like fucking RB, but RB always, and then I'll never forget growing up, like I told y'all I'll be like the least hype, like pre-game playlist.
Yeah, I'd be rapping. No, like I legit be rapping, and I used to freestyle back in the day when I was in elementary with my homegirl. We Jessica, shout out to uh Jessica. Shout out to Me and Front, She always was like cool, but we would link up. She was older than me and we would go freestyle. We would be just chilling at the center and shit. So Yeah. And and but then like does DJing start happening? Or I started DJing. So nothing like seriously, other than just being a huge fan and you know making it feel my life was basketball, following from early on to college. So when I said I'm gonna focus on other talents and not just focus on one, I had shifted my thinking. And I was like, There's other stuff going on. I don't have to deal with certain shit I don't want to deal with. Like I can kind of focus and see what works instead of forcing stuff. Cause you gotta think I was been playing it for my whole life. So you some shit didn't work out for people can go to the league. Some people sometimes they just can't.
Like it's like you can be good as fuck and don't go to the league. for real. And we're like, yeah, and so then the mindset mindset shift, you know, towards you know, was it towards music or did you like dabble in other shit After you kind of gave up? In college, man, Kennesaw was lit. I'm sorry, Kennesaw State. That's I'm alumni, so I gotta put them on like, they Well, aren't y'all like the owls or something? Yeah, yeah, bearded owls Maybe not. The bearded owls. Owls. OVO. No, I'm over Drake too heavy though. Like, but yeah, I mean I just went to the school for the education and I kind of got persuaded in a sense of like, well, not persuaded, influence, because I was exposed to it, and then I was like, I like it, and I wanted to move to Atlanta and like keep further in my college and get my bachelor's. So it made sense. And so you were just around homies that were producers. We would kick it, we just cook up. I'd be in the room with them while they cooking up. They would teach me shit.
Like I was just soaking up the game and then just learning from them. And we would do collaborations together even then, but I still wasn't as focused on that. Cause DJing was like my life for like years. Where I just did only DJing. Then it was like I would dabble in the producer and but not really giving my full divided attention. Now it gets my full divided attention. And I still DJ as well, too. But I'm only gonna do select stuff with DJing. Like was DJing though a consequence of just like you loved music and it was a bag or something, or like did you see some DJ that you were like, oh shit, like I want to do that. You know what I mean? Like the first DJ I ever saw that made me want to be like, I want to DJ, but never did it because I was a hooper. Like I was supposed to be like if you talk to people, they would say B was gonna go to the league. WNBA, no, no cat. Yeah, I'm not saying no. I I heard you were like legit. That's why I'm excited to get you on the court. Smoke your ass. You know that I got to clap for that one.
We'll see. Y'all funny. What was the question? We're gonna videotape this uh fucking one-on-one game between me and B. No, for real, and put it on the internet. Oh, yeah. What did I just sign up for? Come on. Yes. Oh, it's gonna go so viral when you get smoked, Ben. Let's go. Playback Ben gets ass beat by B.Lack. Right. This is good content. Yeah, we need that. We need that. About to never play again, Ben. I need a workout or something, like train. No, you gotta be the, as a matter of fact, I don't take both of y'all. Listen, I don't want him. I don't want him on my team. Listen, I'm a force in the paint, first of all. Okay, so you be on my team, we're gonna get a shit. I'm not a shooter, but like I'm you are a large man. I'm a presence. And I will look I'll board over you, I'll block you, I'll put I'll put shots back up. I got I got boards for days. Let's go. Let's do this. That's what we need. Anyways, first DJ that you saw that you were like doing doing their thing, and you were like, hell yeah. The um movie the um Tupac Juice.
Juice. When he did the battle, I was like, damn. I thought about I was like, damn, do they got female DJs? Like I was wondering if females was tapped in. I didn't know at the time, like it was you know, uh Cinderella or whatever with uh, Salt-N-Pepa. Yeah, yeah. Like she was like doing it during that time. I didn't know her at that time because I was so young. But when I found that out, I was like, oh, that's hard. Like I could do that shit. Like when I was in college, I had money, I had my refund and shit. I just didn't blow it. I decided to do something different. I just invested in myself. That's that's a gem. Yeah, don't spend your STEMI on uh Gucci flip flops, right? Go buy a fucking mixing board or something. Figure out what you like to do. And did you actually buy a board? I bought a board, I got it. I still got it. damn. I wish I could show y'all that picture. It's back in like in the old I think. Little like two track, the little one, like the that picture, like I it was the yeah, the two-track. Yeah, and then I had four-track, yeah, CDJ. Upgraded.
Oh, you're on CDJs now. Oh, CDJ, she's she's DJ Black. I know what I'm talking about. No, I'm DJ Relaxed. So, you know, for people that want to DJ, I mean, like, what was your approach to even learning? I mean, like, were you getting on YouTube and shit? Or like how did you actually? Yeah? How did you actually learn how to DJ? There's no manual, yeah, right. Like, I tell people that I'm like, man, you gotta teach yourself sometimes with this DJ and shit. Cause I had other DJs I would go see and go practice with, but it was like me just learning and stuff, and then after that, I would just implement what they what I thought, and I would do it myself and keep doing it and keep doing it and learning. And then I would watch videos and stuff like that. That's how I was able, like you gotta be proactive, like you gotta want it. I really wanted to learn how to do this shit, so I did it. You know, I was like, I'm proud of myself. Like, and I done did it in front of 10,000 or more people, like I feel good about that. No, I mean, how important is taking matters into your own hands for you?
I mean, you seem like such a person that's like I don't care what the fuck you're doing, what the fuck you're doing. If I want to achieve something, I mean, you feel like a force that's like not gonna be stopped. Like if you want to do something, is that I feel like you just gave me that energy. That's what it is, like it's a confirmation. Like, that's what I'm on. I'm on, I'm not letting nothing stop me. You're gonna have hurdles, you're gonna go through stuff, but you gotta keep going, you know what I'm saying? Cause people are individuals, you can't be caught up with they doing, you got you. You're an individual, you need to focus on yourself. Like, it's not about you know what I'm saying. You die by yourself, you get this shit by yourself. Like when you get when you're born, you're gonna have a family, maybe not. I don't know, but you guarantee to buy die by yourself, yeah. Everyone does. So why can't you get caught up on other people? Yeah, yeah, but it's sometimes a problem. Sometimes hard for especially artists. I feel like probably actually everyone, I don't even want to categorize it just as artists, but like looking to your left and right.
I mean, we've talked about this a bunch. If you can have those blinders on, that's like a beautiful thing. Right. But that shit's hard to not compare yourself to like where you're at, you know? I think you do it with the social media age too more. For sure. It's made it way worse. It's in the face. Because I feel myself do that. You know, like in the beginning, I felt like, yeah, because what it evolved to, it's like, yeah, everybody caught up on this shit looking like something. But it's like when you see these people in real life. They not dead. It's not dead. Yeah. And it's like, y'all don't fake fucking. Instagram is not. Instagram is not a real place. You cannot go to Instagram. No, it's so true, man. Like, I've I've met some people, not gonna lie, that like I thought looked like so fucking cool online. Right. They were so fucking not cool in real life. Like acting like you got money, you don't got it. Acting like you own shit, you don't own shit. You using somebody else's money, like all that stuff. rentals and fake jewelry and fake streams. We're just in that age.
That's a bit weird. It is weird. Oh my gosh. No, that's true. Um, okay, so you know, Moran, I just wanted to point this out. I mean, he said he saw you. Shout out Moran real quick. Yeah, yeah. Shout out Moran the man. That brother, yeah. That's my brother. Cause I mean, he's definitely become. I mean, is it a mentor, you know, type of figure for you? You're like a big brother, mentor to me. for sure. Yeah, he put me in the game, he basically put me on. Yeah, like he wanted to make sure, like, yo, you don't I want you to meet other people, I want you to be straight, like, because you talented. Yeah, because he saw you DJ, because y'all were like DJing the same party or some shit. I think. Yeah, I think it's like he he do it first. Yeah, I was the last set. He DJ'd first, I think. And then when I went on, like everybody stayed for my set, and then like it was like one of the best parties of my life. Yeah. Like No, I mean, literally, like everybody was lit. It was bruh. He set up the pins so you could knock them down. Literally, when he saw that, he was like, Yo, I need to know you, I need to know what's going on. No, he, I mean, he he definitely described it as like pretty effortless, right? And when you see someone do something hard effortlessly, whether it's rapping, you know, playing ball, you know, DJing, whatever.
Solving a Rubik's Cube. Yeah, being a fucking accountant. I don't care what you're doing, but like when you know that whatever they're doing is not, you know, easy to do, and then you see them almost like you know, effortlessly executing against it, like that's that's a beautiful thing. I mean, do you feel like it is pretty natural to you? Like, even from that first party that he saw you. Yeah, that was 2017, like September. I felt like at that time I had just caught on how to DJ. I was like, because it was two years since I started, and I was like, Yeah, I got it. When you can make I made small crowds do stuff, yeah, and I went to bigger and bigger, and it's like, okay. It's confirmation, like, okay, I'm doing it, I'm doing it. Like, you can do it. Yeah, you good. What's that feeling like? I've never DJ'd, obviously. And I'm like, it's good when the crowd follows you, like, but it just your energy, that energy, it feels like I don't know, it feels like a high. I can't explain it, but it's like you want to feel that shit again too. Like, you want to like have everybody have a good time.
Like, yeah, I don't like all that fighting shit. Yeah, keep that shit at home. We all have I want everybody just to have a good time, no drama, no nothing. I heard there might have been a a fight at one show that you DJ'd. Yeah, it was a fight for sure. Can we get that story real quick? Oh, Seattle, they just lit. I mean, Even Seattle? Yeah, fucking Washington, damn it, Seattle. They fought at the lotto after the show, they fought at the lotto lotto show. I was like, it's confirmation. Seattle is just dark. Like, because y'all got the highest suicide rate, right? Because you know, it never gets sunny. It's it's relatively gray a lot of the year. Yes, you know what I'm saying? So I've been to Seattle a bunch because my like best friend lived out there, and I caught it like amazing weather, so I don't actually have this experience, but it is very gray. It's like this drizzly rain. It's not even like raining hard. So people can just get by with like a little rain jacket. It's not all the time. But it's a lot. Yeah. It's a lot. Exactly. Yeah. So they're depressed. People are not feeling happy or whatever.
The mood is not right. So I understand that part, but for me, it's just like you ain't gotta show me nothing, but twice, I guess. I don't know. I see Seattle. She's never going back to Seattle. No, I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. So fighting ain't gonna stop me. But I'm just saying, like, cause y'all do this shit after the shit. But one time, oh, you know, the the one Moran told y'all about was doing the shit. You know what I'm saying? Like during the set, the fight closed, that's what closed it down. It ended the whole fight. I don't like that. Like, do that shit afterwards. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah. No, I just I agree. It's it seems like it would be like a high. I mean, even watching you, you know, rally the people to get their phones out. Yeah, you almost like feel like this powerful, like, I don't know. Like, for me, I would like power trip over that shit and be like, get your phones out. Show me your lights. You got a whole movie, like your scene is different. I can feel you. I'm just saying, like, you're gonna be a good actor. I just could catch myself being like a little too comfortable with like giving them, you know, commands.
Like, everybody empty your wallets. Give me all your credit cards. Everybody donate $10. No, yeah, cash out. You say if you do this, if you do that, they gonna eat it up. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I learned too. On tour. Like, if you just be like, if whatever they own is the fire shit, you just let them know. Yeah, and if you're a really genuinely about it, if your energy is really about it and you're really like into it and you and you're believable. So it's like an actor actress, you know. If you're like playing the part, then people it's people are way more likely to reciprocate that energy, I think. Nah, for real. That's facts. Yeah. Agreed. So you end up working your way into radio, I think, by way of you know, the relationship with Moran. Tell us about kind of like, you know, what were you doing early on, you know, being around the radio? Cause I know you weren't like jumping right in and hosting your own show at that point or anything, right? So, like, you know, tell us about kind of the early radio days, like, you know, what you were doing. So we was on I Heart Radio early radio days.
I liked it. It was dope. You know, Moran, we was the mixed show DJs there or whatever. Um, we had our own show, we would do topics and stuff too. But I would do the DJing for sure. Um, I felt like at that time I didn't want to do radio, but when I was exposed to it and got to learn it, I was like, okay, I could do this. Cause I never did thought about it before. Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and be like, I wanted to do radio. Like, that's not what it was. I was like, do I really want to do this? But I like it. Cause you get to really kind of just, I guess, brand purposes, be able to have stuff on your resume, and you get to like still consistently work on your craft, you know. Yeah, and I feel like there was a bunch of like people that you probably met, right? Many celebrities, like yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, okay, this is helping the marketing and shit. Like, but after a while, you kind of just be like, Well, shit, I really just want to be on for real. Like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm around all this shit. If I'm gonna be around all this greatness, I need to be better. Like, I need to be on this shit. So That's how I look at it. If I'm around people that's doing it, it's it's a it's tangible. Yeah, and so is that what kind of inspired like Moran to you know start infinite vibes with you at that point? Was kind of y'all had just seen, like, yo, like shout out infinite vibes real quick. Yeah, shout out infinite vibes. Infinite vibes. I I was talking to Moran. We've never done this, but I think we could do like an episode swap. I love one week. Y'all need to come on a show. Have you ever heard of even that that's a thing in the podcast world? You need to do your homework, man. Your worst podcaster ever. Teach me shows. Shows shows do episode swaps where we might post a infinite vibes episode to our platform. Oh. And they post a one more time uh episode to their platform. Oh, could be an old episode, whatever, but it's that you know that's our audience, you know, might trickle over to ours, ours might convert to theirs, and yeah, yeah, that's cool. It's it's a big and we gotta come on the show, right?
And do a topic, and then y'all come on our show and do a topic. Yes, and I already talked about we need to be doing that, getting on the show. These guests and stuff are cool, but like talking about just topics and shit, it's definitely like and I feel like we do that throughout the interview, you know. But it definitely is very like biographical. We want to know who the fuck you are. We're not just talking about your opinions on some random topic per se. You know, we definitely want to know like your story, you know. what I mean, I love that. Yeah, so you know, you guys start infinite vibes, and that was right at the pandemic, I think, right? Yeah, it was 2020. Now, um, we got 20 infinity, which is Moran company, okay, the film and media company, and infinite Vibes is under 20 infinity. Okay, mm-hmm. And then we started it Infinite Vibes Show together, yeah. And of course, we are part of 20 infinity too, Yeah. He and D Lou. And I mean, this is the first time I've actually gotten to interview someone who does the interviewing. What's your process like? I mean, because you guys have had some killer guests.
You've had Jig, Coi Leray. Fucking lot of people. people. Key, you know, light skin Keisha. I mean, you know, I think Cody Shane maybe even was on. I don't know. Like there's Mm-mm. we haven't had her. Okay, you haven't? All right. But you've had a lot of everybody else, yes. You've had a lot of, you know, heavy hitter guests. Yeah. Oh, okay. Awesome. And so, like, you know, what's your what's your approach? Like, are you just are you preparing a lot or are you pretty like off the cuff, you know, just kind of like seeing where it goes, or do you like that? I do that. But I like to prepare. If I had to pick what I like best, like some of them I might just like it may just kick me and I had to okay, and then I just organic conversation. Yeah. And then after that, I'm like, okay, maybe I want to make sure I'm gonna just really learn about the person and see how. So I just like to do that more. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's how I feel. I was like, you know, we definitely could just have people on and have organic conversations. We're all conversationalists, we can talk to people.
It's kind of it's not a big deal. Uh, but I think that, you know, doing that research for me has been like really helpful. Right. Um, because I think it's just gonna get to a lot of the key like points that I think our audience would, you know, would find interesting, you know what I mean? What they really want to know. Yeah, exactly. Versus just like, you know, riffing about some topic that, yeah, we could talk about it intelligently and we could have good, you know, dialogue, but is it really like who is Blax? You know what I mean? They want to know who I am, exactly. Yeah, for sure. So I think you were a big one in setting up the Coi Leray interview, right? Yeah, I think you had a my homegirl was doing content for her, and then basically um she connected us with her. Yeah, yeah. And then we did the interview, and then from there, that the studio, you talking about when she was at the studio? Uh yeah, you know, assumedly you guys were sitting in a little, you know, kind of you know, round table on the couches there or whatever. Yeah, and uh um so that was so fucking dope.
It was like a little old school Volkswagen pimped out like van or some shit. I don't know. It was hard. That shit was hard. And I yeah, that was like the setting of it. Yeah, it was a setting. That's dope. Yeah, so I fucked with it. It was a vibe. Like she was cool, good people. Coi Leray is really dope. Like, I like her. She got an interesting story. I mean, she like had a bunch of money, and then like I can't remember like how her family like lost all the money. Her dad, I think got uh got caught up in some. Yeah, like he lost his business or something like that. Yeah, she was like apparently like a millionaire type shit, like by way of her dad, and then like Lights. you know, light switch flicked off and like lost all the you know, so she like and then picked it all back up, yeah. Well, then of course, you know, she has gone on to be what she has, but you know, uh I just thought that was kind of like a cool you know narrative, right? Yeah, um she made it happen. So how annoying is it for you to like schedule guests though? Do you find that like taxing?
If it's, yeah, like the coordination, logistics, it can be, it's sometimes if it's not like flowing like it should, like, you know. Because I mean, take me, like I was a pain in the ass even getting you on, right? Ah you was a pain in the ass. No, but you know what I mean? You did it on purpose. No, it's just it's tough from both things. It's tough from both sides, right? It's like, oh, the guest says that they can only do Thursday. It's like, oh shit, we already had someone for Thursday, so then you put it in the next week, and then it's like, oh shit, I can only do Tuesday. Oh, we can't do Tuesday. Uh, but uh, you know, like I feel like there's like so much back and forth sometimes. It is. Do you feel like that? And that's what if it doesn't flow, like I said, if it flows, it just happens. Oh, yeah. Some of them have been like perfect, right? Oh, you're free next Wednesday at 6 p.m. See you there. And then they show up at 6 p.m. and you're like, wow, that was this is It's magical. Like this was a flow for this. Like we done reschedule whatever, like trying to figure it out. Oh, because you were on tour with Lotto. Like I had to, yeah. Excuse me.
We were bad. We were doing this months ago. Our bad. Yeah. And then when she gets home, she's like, oh yeah, now I'll do it. Come on, let's get it. Come on. Nah, for sure. I'm going to drop this record. That's dope. I'm like, this is perfect timing. Yeah. So that's you know, perfect segue into, you know, tell us about how you have been releasing music. Because you've got you have a few records out. Yes, I got no favors, um, which is featuring Dranello, D Lou, um, Prince Rose, and then I got Gia, which is with Ray Moon. Yep. And then you have the record that's coming out. I got the newest single called I Really Wanna with Malachi. Well, Kai. Kai. You know what I'm saying? Shout out Kai. Kai, A E. You know what I'm saying? But he an RB superstar already. He, you know, like I already told him he he up, like he up. Yeah, he's hard on it. Like, he got the look, everything like he's fine. Yeah, because he just dropped the tape. Yeah, he just dropped I Wanna Be a Playboy or I Don't Wanna Be a Playboy or something. Is it?
I think it's called Tales of a Playboy. Tales of a Playboy, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I I was, you know, because we thought Kai was gonna come, but apparently he didn't want to, but uh no, and and it was dope. So I'm excited to hear y'all single. So, but but you know, you you're not an artist, so don't get it twisted, folks. She's not an artist. So tell us about like why, you know, why you're doing it this way, how you're doing it, you know what I mean? Your your approach. If I had to describe what I do, I always tell people like I'm sort of like the female DJ Cali. Yeah. Like, like because nobody ever like, or I'm like Missy. Fucking hard. I'm like Missy, like, but without singing. You know what I'm saying? I'm a producer. I songwriter. I produce music, and I have, like, references and stuff, but I don't want to be an artist artist where I'm like recording music. I want to be able to be the playmaker and putting this shit together. Like that shit is essential to the game too. But you're not a pure beat maker either. You're you're very much on the the bigger scope of things. Right.
I feel like, right? If you need to, if you need to get an FL Studio and you know, program some drums, you can. That part. But you but you're really like out here just doing whatever it takes to make the song happen, right? In the best way. That's a producer idea. Exactly. And I might have to I might have the idea with the hook, or I might have a songwriter that got a loop, bring them in, play the loop, and then we build off the loop. You know what I'm saying? And then may write a hook or something like that. But uh pretty much we just do what we do, like just what feels good. I think music is about doing what feels good to you and also just learning what works. And I just love to be able to add to what I'm doing, whatever I'm doing. And and it's also about like trying things until it feels good, I feel like, right? Cause I think that you're someone who, you know, at least, you know, from what I heard, like definitely open to like trying new things, being experimental, like, you know what I mean? Kind of stepping outside the comfort zone.
Cause I think that's sometimes when the best music is made. No facts. I love doing it. I love trying new things, different sounds. Like, I don't try to do what's the norm. I try to do what feels good, but also just like just stay and be authentic. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't be because you heard something earlier, you want to start like, nah, just focus on what you actually are trying to bring to the forefront. To me, it's always like kind of a balance because you you definitely can't stand out by sounding like everyone else. It's never gonna work. But also, it's hard to stand out when you're just completely left field and and like no one can really resonate with it, too. Right. So there's kind of a balance of it's gotta like feel familiar but new at the same time. I think that's the best music I love that. and the stuff that wins. That's perfect way to describe that familiar but new. Yeah, yeah. Who who's on the podcast? They this was the most OG statement I've ever heard there. I was like asking them to describe their style, and they were like uh new to the new to the ear, but familiar to the spirit or some shit like that. Yeah, I think it was Bijan Amir
Amir. Amazing, yeah. So he's, I've never heard, He's like a super producer, has you know, he he produced Ric Flair Drip. So that that was his record, and he's got you know, tons of other Bryson Tiller, blah blah blah, the list goes on it. Like new to the ear, familiar to the spirit, yeah. That's new to the ear, familiar to the spirit. That means they can relate to it. Yes, that's what I think. It feels like something you heard before, but it sounds like something new. Mm-hmm. I love that deep. Mm. Yeah, speaking of deep. That's why he got hits, exactly, right? He's fucking amazing. Mm-hmm. Speaking of, you know, deep, this term was used to describe kind of the approach that we're talking about here, right? It was catalyst. Catalyst. You you know, you are a catalyst for like bringing this music sound record to life. Like, do you feel like that? Like, have you ever thought about that? Like the term being used. It's exactly like that. Because I really want to start it with a songwriter that I was able to connect with and hear his reference.
And I was like, yo, all I gotta do is produce something that he could put this shit on. Cause the beat wasn't it wasn't me that he put did the reference on. Like yo, what was that conversation like I could put this in places with a bigger artist? Huh? Love the reference, but that being like is that a hard conversation? The same thing. Oh, okay. Yeah, so he was like, Oh, yeah. So he wasn't tripping, he was like, I know this shit sucks. You're right, you're right. You're right. Got this off YouTube, it's trash. It just it wasn't sucked. It it didn't suck. It just had like too much going on. As as a lot of these beats do. Less is more sometimes. Less is more sometimes. Not all the time, but like a lot of the time, you know, like at certain points. This is RB, you don't need too much. You know what I'm saying? Like for sure. So, you know, we did our thing. Me and Moran came together, we cooked up. Um, it was just a vibe, even experience that I was in my rhythm too, because we was like with the hi-hats, we did two hi-hats, and you'll hear that, you'll hear it in the song. like switching or at the same time. It like basically switch it to like that, like it was like the sound it created was crazy.
I was like, wow, that shit hard. So we made a dope ass beat. The moment in it was so beautiful. Guy Malachi. booked the studio, had him come pull up. He recorded two songs that that night, but he did the record, and from there we just like add it to the beat, pop it put more bass on it and shit. That was it, it was ready. Yeah, and then as the catalyst of the record, you then can go on and put the song out with the artists, right? Exactly. Like somebody they know when I'm because I'm coming in. What I had to learn is I'm coming in. I'm not asking to be placed on anything. I'm coming in, letting you know you come to this, and this is the vibe. Like, come create with me. Because like it's cool to like, oh, I'm trying to get placements to get placements and stuff. But I'm a person by heart. I don't wait on nothing. I don't wait on people. I don't wait on I don't be waiting. I don't be waiting to see if this is gonna get placed. I'm the type of person, I'm gonna just go with the vibes and energy and go get it. And what we do here is ours.
This is ours. So then let me ask you this because I mean you've done this. Like, you know, literally, you put out music with artists. Put out music on your streaming platforms as a you know primary artist, just like the artists that are actually the artists on the record. Right. You know, similar to a coward or whatever, right? Are you financially investing in this? Meaning like you're rolling out the record and shit too, or like, you know, I mean, if you don't mind kind of like outlining the business of this for other producers out there that might be interested in like this approach, because it's one thing for you to like say, Yeah, we're gonna release this, but like, okay, cool, who's who's paying for the music video? Who's oh man, I'm a boss. I'm gonna pay for this shit because like I said, I don't wait on nobody. Yeah, I'm gonna get it's other ways to get resources and get money. Like, it may not be all me. Like for studio time, me and my brother, we have we on a mission, we trying to create records. We go in and do this, you know what I'm saying? Together when we do our beats.
But when we working with artists, that's what we do. We take care of the studio. But when the rollout come out with whatever records I'm trying to do, whatever, I'm gonna put the bag up for me. Yeah, I'm gonna pay for the video, I'm gonna pay for promo, PR, whatever I gotta do. Marketing, I'm gonna pay for it. Yeah. Because it's my record. You know what I'm saying? It's not like you I'm an artist, I'm a person, I'm creating. It's not like you produce a song for an artist and then it's their song. And then that and then you're not really Liable. So then effectively the splits on the like master, for example, would reflect that it's your record. It's my record. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. Okay, yeah, yeah. But everybody get their share. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm for everybody. No, for sure. But I mean, you know, still. Yeah. You'll see writer, producer, right? Yeah. Yeah. And that's you. Okay. That's me. Yeah, no, it's it's interesting. Taking responsibility for like this is this is my song, it's my baby. Yeah. Whatever happens. And I think that's where maybe we know we're doing it. I mean, no, I think we did a similar approach, but I think that like owning it more as like your record.
We've done it like pretty 50-50. I'll split a song with artists. We both pay for the video. We both pay for whatever, you know, everything. We both have our names on it. But I've never really like been like, you know, this is this is my record or my project. It's still. but you invested in yourself. That's still the same thing to me. Like, yeah. If you want something, just invest in yourself. Even if you do go half with somebody, but when you branch out and do it on your own, I don't gotta. I mean, unless I go to the bank, I'm gonna go to the bank. Like, if I want to get some money from somebody, I'm going to the bank. Whether it's credit, you know what I'm saying, cash, whatever. You gotta just do it, you gotta figure that shit out. Like, I'm that's what I'm for. Nah, it's hard. I'm interested in that though. Yeah. No, definitely. You could do it. I definitely could. It's already done. Yeah. I just haven't like heard it's comforting to hear someone talk about it that's done it now. It's more real to me, I guess. That's real. Yeah. Thank you. I'm glad I could just this is a great episode so far. Yeah, amazing.
That's hard. So I do want to take a a left turn here and just as yeah. Buckle up because this is an interesting left turn. You know, we talked about the many hats that you wear. Mm-hmm. Right. Manager is one of them. As someone who manages, why the fuck would you do that? Are you fucking crazy? Are you an idiot? No, I'm kidding. But like kind of. Shout out managers. The only reason I manage is because I can't make music. And I and I can't rap. So you said making music and like so making music and being a manager's heart. I'm just saying, like, it's too much. It managing is especially y'all artists out there. God dang. Not for real. Can y'all just give us a break? Can you just do your shit sometimes? No, I mean, but but honestly, like what exactly? Gosh, like I think all artists should be prescribed like Adderall first, you know. attention deficit disorder. So tell us kind of what you know, what was the thought process though about management?
And and you know, tell us a little bit about your artist and kind of what drew you to him specifically. Yeah, well, my god given ability is to help others, sure. So with that being said, I'm gonna do it even if I'm doing music. I'm always gonna want to help others, even though it may be like, oh, why did I do this? Yeah, you know, like why the fuck did I sign up for this? So you learn and see and see exactly what you want to do. Like, you like, okay, now I know I can manage an artist, but I need to do it when I'm ready, not force it in, like, you know what I'm saying? So for me, it's like it can be ups and downs in it because you want the best for somebody, but they may not fulfill their potential at a certain point, you know, stuff like that, or you may not agree on what the layout, whatever, or whatever. Was it kind of like I feel like It's just a lot going on? I feel like a lot of managers was it a thing where you just kind of realized that you already kind of were managing someone, then you just kind of realized you were basically already doing it, Exactly. and so you put the label on it. You could definitely do that, yeah.
For me, I feel like I manage people in life every day. So it's like, you know, when you're doing the music and shit, like when I'm in that mode, I'm doing that. So I do it already, but some people you just do business with, you know. Yeah, some shit. Yeah, but I mean, we talked to Rico Brooks, who's a legendary music manager. I mean, he was managing, you know, Boys in the Hood with Jeezy and Jody Breeze and all those guys. He was managing Gorilla Zoe, Young Jock back in their fucking heyday, and now all the super producers. He he, you know, he manages Sunny Digital, he was managing Metro Boomin and Southside. Oh, he's like, he's one of the most, you know, renowned. Definitely check him out. He's fucking amazing guy. His episode's dropping, it will already have been out, of course, by the time this comes out. So go stream that shit. Yes. Um, but he talked about he talked about how like managing artists, man, specifically is like taxing. Yeah. I mean, he was like mentally, emotionally, physically spiritually, physically. I think you joked in the in a text to me, did you just describe him with every L.Y. adverb, every word that ends in L I, yeah.
He was how he does it. He was like drained, yeah. Do you feel that way? Yeah, I'm only managing one, so I haven't That's good. got there yet. So it's about knowing that you on your grind, you're doing that for sure. But for me, it's like I don't see myself managing managing 10 to 12, like a whole bunch of artists. Yeah, I see myself managing an artist, developing the artist, getting the artist together right, no matter how long it takes, and then being successful in what they do, like it paid off. That's what I see. Yeah, I don't see it like me doing multiple artists, and I'm sure it always, it has to depend on the artist, you know. You know, but like you can find an artist that's probably easier to manage than another artist, of course, right? You might have like a someone that's not as taxing than someone else might be. Yeah, exactly. It may just flow it, they get it. Yeah. Um, but I think one right now is good for me right now until I get to the next level, then I can do open up to like multiple. Cause like I like what Lil Wayne did with Nikki Drake, and you know what I'm saying?
So he did his thing, like that he that's smart, you know what I'm saying? All money aside, if you had to choose one hat to wear for the remainder of your music career, one hat, yeah. Just you know, like if you can make the exact same money managing, you know, making music will always be that always so production, so the the like executive producer, Creating. yes, that's always gonna be because I love doing it. So you're saying I'm going to make no money doing this shit, you ditch your artist as as quick as quick as you came in. If it's for production, we all gonna be creating it was a hypothetical, it was a hypothetical situation, guys. I'm just kidding. But but no, so so that's where your passion lies. So like the DJ shit would you know would go, you'd really be focusing on making music with artists. Like that would be your thing. Yeah, one thing, yeah. And then, if you had this is a hypothetical world where you have to wear one hat. Yeah, I know this isn't, you know, that's the one.
That's mine too. That would be it. That's it. In the music, the one hat that I'm always gonna do no matter what. I don't care about nothing. Like, if I had to just one hat, it would be making passive income, making money, love passive income. Shout out. Oh my gosh, I love that. I love waking up and not having to work for it. Checking how much you made last night. Oh, nice, perfect. Yeah, I can buy that Lambo today. Now that's that's dope. I'm about to buy my first car. Okay. Like that, not saying it's my first. It's my second. Actually, it's gonna be my third car, but my first car where I feel like it's on a like luxury level. You know what I'm saying? You really wanted. Something I really wanted. I had to get something to build my way up because I had just bought a rental property. So I chose not having because you can live above your means. It's easy to fucking do that now. Most people like most people. It's easy to do that. I had to just be like, that's not the car you need right now. So what is the luxury one that you're eyeing? Range Rover. The Mercedes.
The Benz. She's a Benz girl. Yeah, I gotta get the Benz because I was looking at I really really want, like when I get on that level 100k a car type situation, I really want the Audi. Okay. Yeah. Like an A8 or or what which? Or the R the Audi 7. Yeah, the sport kind. Yeah. Sporty. Yeah. Yeah. And then after that, it was the BMW. I like the BMW. Like, I like they series. But I don't believe in paying cash. Like, I don't believe in financing and like getting a new car. Finance, get a car that's older, but less mileage, where it still has value. Cause like cars depreciate as soon as you drive out the lot. Right. Yeah. And then if you got the money, buy cash for the car because like I said, it's gonna depreciate as soon as you drive out the lot. So if you buy cash, something happens, you can get you a check or whatever to get new. So she's dropping real investment gems on here, guys. That's how I feel.
That needs to be a new segment on the radio show. Yeah. So if I ever get a Bentley, whatever car I get, if I ever wanted to get that, like, you know, I don't want a Bentley. I kinda, if I had to get luxury with the Lumbo, like the little truck thing, yeah, that'd be hard. Like, why get that one? Some like lime green shit or something. I'm more like a blue. She's going blue. Oh, me too. Like a powder blue. Yeah, like in that teal powder blue range. I would definitely get the Carolina blue. Uh yeah, it's like that painting over there. I wish I could see it. Shout out to Leah, Culver. guest number like three or four. Yeah, did that painting? That's hard. Yeah. And I'm 55. Yep. 55. So uh other than the single coming out, anything else you want to make sure that people are, you know, kind of you know, tuning in for? Yeah, the single's out. You know what I'm saying? And um, I just feel like Cause when is it going to air. I don't know. Oh, it's gonna be a while. A few weeks. It's gonna be like a month, maybe. Oh, yeah, the single's out. So we need to say that. Single's out. out now.
The single's out right now. I really want to. Link in description. Go fucking stream. that shit. Streaming on all platforms. Video out right now. Video in the description. You feel me? Nah, the video ain't she's capping. Yeah, I'm capping. But um, yeah, definitely single out right now. But yeah, let's, yeah, we working. Like, I just say I'm gonna keep doing the show, keep grinding, keep investing, keep working my mind, gaining knowledge. Keep fucking with one more time. Yes, one more time. We love that. One more time. We love that. Well, no, we appreciate you coming on. This is an amazing episode. Really, really love your story so far. You got such a great attitude and great energy. So you're gonna go far. I yeah, I can't wait to see where you go. Y'all going to be great too. For sure. Henry, until next week, what are we doing? Getting out of here. We're getting out. Peace. Bye bye. Bye bye.