Running/Biking from ATL to NYC & Growing up in Ghana ft. Prohaize

There's something about being back home that everybody wants to look out for each other. Like over here, it damn near feels like a rat race. Everybody's just like, oh man, I'm trying to get it on my own. Over there, it's just like, nah, we're trying to get it together. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and Playback Ben. one more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host. Henry with a three. Henry with an E was already taken. So we made an adjustment. Henry, who do we have on the podcast today? Today on the podcast, welcoming in Usain Bolt with dreads. Grew him pretty fast too. I don't know where that uh And he has a beard. Yeah. Quick, quick, quick uh um hair lesson.

You gotta address them as locks. Locks. Because apparently I've made that mistake before, Henry. No, this is this is like some real stuff. Like when I was choosing to get this, granted, apparently I have what's called trendy locks because I don't have like the real free form where they grow. Okay. But when you research the Rastafarian culture, they're really big on you know, semantics and like word because they believe it has so much power, and it does. So they try to stay away from calling it dreadlocks because there's nothing dreadful about the crown. Ooh. So they just address it as locks. Wow. Wow. Somebody put me up on game. I was like, yo, that's that's powerful. And now we're on game, and now you guys are on game. Don't make the same the same mistake as Henry. These are locks, these are trendy locks. Yeah, not just any fucking locks. But no, no, no, no, no, but no, no, but my shit still, my I shouldn't have said that. He said it's trendy locks. That's funny. No, you so, in all seriousness, Henry, who do we have on the podcast today? This is legendary Atlanta recording artist, Pro Hayes, man. Give it up. Bless up, bless up. ProHaize in the building? We appreciate you coming on today, man.

I'm glad to be here. And you know, we we know each other, we've worked together. But honestly, in doing some of the research and preparation, I think there's a lot of your story that I'm excited to help you tell today. Because obviously, we've worked together on a couple, you know, songs with Henry, one that's out, one that you know, hopefully we'll see the light of day soon enough. But it's it's it's really nice, cool. It's really cool for me to sit here with you today, man, and help you tell the story of kind of where you've come from, where you're at, and where you're going. So love. Let's let's dive right in. You have a project, African-born American raised. Yeah. So that's not a metaphor. Yeah. Literally, you are African born and American raised. Where were you born? So born, I was born in the mountainside of Ghana. It's uh an area called the Akuapem region. Okay. Right. Yeah, yeah. It's a geography lesson and a and a hair lesson today. Akuapem. Akuapem? Akuapem. Akuapem? Akuapem. Akuapem.

For sure. So growing up in Ghana, yeah. What type of music were you exposed to at a young age? Oh man. So all kinds of music. You know, of course, there's the a lot of the traditional things that, you know, they're speaking the native tongue, which is tree, and I still speak that language. Um, so lots of heavy drums, you know, you know, um, percussion-based. Exactly, you know, but more so like the uh bongos and whatnot, right? So heavy on that. Um, but then you know, the older I got, the more I got exposed to like, you know, cassette tapes and things of that sort. And then there was this uh this guy, man, he's still a legend to this day. He was like the I call him the Ghanaian Drake. His name is Daddy Lumba. Oh, right. Daddy Lumba. Yes. If you had a party and you needed to like start jumping and just go crazy, put on some Daddy Lumba, right? Cause he had the records that were like super party. Like it's just one that's like poison. He's like, uh, you know, uh your poison. It's like anytime that song sounded like a Drake melody already, yeah. Bro, man was just vibes, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, he also would uh put out like records like you know, Dangerous, which was like a super like introspective song about like women and men and how it's similar to like Lauryn Hill. But long story short, you know, between him, there's a cat named Kojo Entry.

He really powerful music. So a lot of just like traditional um uh music is what I grew up on. The name of the genre at the time is called um high life. High Life. High Life. Really? Yeah, lots of high life for sure. Is there any like uh global, like mainstream, any like American kind of music going on over there when you're there? So, yeah. So I mean, I would say anything that was popping over here was popping over there because like they would just serve us whatever top 40 is. So from like the Jacksons to the I'm trying to think of like the people that were popping in the 90s, right? So all the RB groups and whatnot, uh Cisco was really big. Interesting. And you know that. So the Thong Song made it over to Ghana? Look, if it was booming over here, it was booming over there, man. You know what I'm saying? So I just I wasn't as hip to like the American stuff. I'd say the the biggest person that kind of cut through for me was Tupac Shakur. Like anytime I would hear him, like, you know, somebody blasting his stuff from changes to like all the other stuff, keep your head. I'm like, yo, man, this dude is like really spitting. Yeah, but I just I was a kid, so I didn't know how to get music, so I just kind of vibe with it when it came on. But that was so is it coming on on the radio or like at yeah at friends' houses or something?

Or a little bit of both? Yeah, for sure. So radio, you know, um, family and friends and stuff, they would probably have it, and I'll just like you know, be around them like, yo, I don't know this guy, but he's so good. You know, oh man. So that's awesome though. So growing up in Africa, yeah. What kind of values would you say maybe were instilled in you because of the African culture, right? Versus what you, you know, because you moved to America at age of 13, I think, right? It was uh it was actually nine. Oh, all right, so it was a little younger, but still some of your earlier formative years. Yeah, what do you think are some of the values you attribute to you know your experience growing up in in Ghana? None. I was a bad little kid. I'm I'm not I'm not even like lying because so like to back up a little bit, like my life story. Um, my mom, she has me, right? By six months. I'm six months old. She decides to come over here to the US, right? And she's kicking and screaming because my grandma said, you have to do this so you can go set up a better life for everybody else. So my mom and dad were both over here.

I'm six months old, and my mom is like, Who's gonna breastfeed him? Who's going to do that? she's trying to figure this out? But it's some real shit. Yeah. So as I was growing up, you know, obviously I left at nine, but in between that six months to nine, I was a bad little kid because and I think it was just a matter because I would see everybody else with their mom and dad, and I'm like, Well, my mom and daddy, they don't love me. Right? And so I would just like lash out, I would be the most disrespectful kid. I was always up to no good, and I was semi-sheltered as well. So, you know, like they say, um, the child that doesn't that doesn't um it's not embraced by the village will burn things down to feel its warmth. So everywhere I go, I'm just like ripping things up and can we, yeah. So on the one more time, it's early, but I mean, usually we reserve this for gyms, but that's kind of a gym, though. What we have no, I just mean usually it takes a long time for people to get to a gym. Yeah, I mean, it's real though. We ask that you repeat it one more time for the people in the back that didn't quite hear it. So the child that's not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth. Wow.

Right. And that's how I was. I wasn't necessarily as loved because I was so confused, like, where my parents at kind of thing. So I would just lash out and do all kinds of things. Now, later on, as I got older, so probably eight or nine from school and things of that sort, I did get instilled with more discipline. Um, it took a lot of belts and a lot of sticks and whippings and stuff like that. Sure. But at that point, that's when I got more discipline. I got the um, you know, looking at my uncle and how he hustled, I got more just working hard, like anything you do, you gotta work for it. You can't expect no handouts. And really, they were just trying to set up a better life for you. But maybe at that age, it's pretty that's a hard thing to kind of understand. It is you just wonder why they're not there. It is exactly. And and another thing was just family, you know what I'm saying? Um, I I can speak better to it, especially when I compare like how I see things here versus how I see things in Africa. But it's just like there's something about being back home that everybody wants to look out for each other. Like over here, it damn near feels like a rat race. Everybody's just like, oh man, I'm trying to get it on my own. Over there, it's just like, nah, we're trying to get it together.

You know what I'm saying? It's even this thing that's like um it's called a asanka, right? It's a pot. And when the food comes, um, you know, we all put the food in together and like we all dip in with our hands and eat together. So there's more of that collective collective success as opposed to individual success. And I think that's one of the things that I learned growing up. Asanka. Asanka. yeah, get some asanka, man. We we'll bust out anything you want. We we'll eat together, you know what I mean? It's powerful. So, but so moving to America at the age of nine, how did you feel about that? Were you excited about that? Were you sad to leave? You know, what what you were leaving behind? What was it a mixed, you know, mixed bag of emotions? How did you feel? I hit them with the peace when it was time. I was like, is real, y'all? you know what I'm saying? But I'm about to go, yeah. Oh, wow. No, no, so really there's this big perception overseas that everybody in America is successful. Yeah, my perception, because all we have to go by, our only reference point is what we see on TV. So on TV, people are always laughing, having a good time. You know what I'm saying?

And we we have joy as well, but it just was like, you know, y'all have drop tops and y'all have like a lot more electricity. We have electricity too, but it's just not as much, right? So things were just abundant to me in the US. So coming here, I was just like happy. I thought I could just walk on the road and pick up gold bricks and I'll be rich by like the second week. You know what I'm saying? Um, but just my expectation really, the thing was I was just, as much as I was still rebellious towards my parents, I was just happy to be reunited. I was happy to be with my little sister and my older brother because we lived in two different towns. Did you guys immediately come to Atlanta or I guess sort of because everywhere it's apparently Atlanta, but it's more so Decatur. We were right up on like Avondale estates. Sure, the Greater Atlanta, though. Like you be okay, so you moved here and you, you know, end up going to Georgia State to study. Yeah, for sure. And you were a part. Shout out Georgia State one time, by the way. Go Panthers. Henry's like six credits away from graduating still. One day I'll finish.

One day we rooting for you. You can do it, buddy. Um, so you end up at Georgia State. Uh tell us about the digital aquarium. Shout out the digital aquarium. Man, because it was something I had heard Henry mentioned before. And then when I was, you know, speaking with uh, you know, someone close to you, he mentioned you were a part of this thing called the digital aquarium. Yeah. Tell the people what that really is. Yeah, shout out to the DAQ, man, uh, the digital crane. The DAQ? The DAQ. It was like a short form. Okay, cool. So the thing about digital cramp, it it was less, it was less of a um like a group and more of more of just a space, a creative, you know, damn near incubator of like if you want to get it, you come here and you get it. Because the digital crane, so literally the setup is it's a bunch of Macs, right? So a bunch of designers who come in here and design their things, and then in the cut was a studio, right? We in college, you're trying to figure things out, ramen noodles style. So we ain't got the funds to go, you know, go to a tree sound or you know, so on so forth, right? So find out about this little place that has Pro Tools loaded up on a Mac.

Yeah, so literally, and you have to like you're in heaven. You do, and and everybody's trying to rap, so you're like, you have to reserve it ahead of time. But the thing was when you run in there, you're gonna run into rappers, you're gonna run into producers, and the people even at the front were all cool, they were all creatives. So they're gonna give you resources throughout the city. That's the beautiful thing about Georgia State. It's right in the middle of the city. So being there was just like a great chance to just meet everybody, man. Like I ran into you know, zip back then, Will Hill, Autumn Cats. Um Zip K, AO, big big shout out to Zip K, man. Um, and then you know, that's uh essentially where I'm I met one of the most life-changing relationships I've ever had, which is uh Jake, Jake Schmutz. That's where we met in digital query. Big shout-out to Jake. Big shout out to Jake, man. I love you know, anyone that's come on the podcast has had a person, a few people that just have been instrumental Set it off. And them, you know, chasing their dreams, yeah, following their dreams, uh, trying to make this happen. Because I I think, you know, you know, the the uh takes a village to raise a child type of mentality, it does take a team.

Yeah, nobody's done it by themselves. Um yeah, exactly. So it's it's neat to hear that. So except for Russ. Yeah, he's the closest thing. He literally gave birth to himself. Right? He makes and masters, he writes, he does everything by himself. He does. Fuck it, I do it myself. Yeah, he said it. That's it. But I mean, you have a little bit of of that in you, I think, from from what I heard. As far as if there's something that you needed done, you weren't shy about learning how to produce. Oh, no. And learn how to record yourself. Yeah. We asked this man for a verse a couple months ago. He I think it was like what hours later, this man just got in his own little home studio, wrote it, and recorded it, sent it to us like the same day. Added sound effects to it, ad libs. Had drops and shit. Yeah, it's amazing. So you hustled your ass off to win a contest. Yeah. At Georgia State. Good times.

To open up for Luda. A household Atlanta name. Global, actually, Ludacris. Ludacris. What was that show? We'd love to have you on the podcast, by the way. We'd love to have you on, man. You know where to find us. No, you don't, but we're here in Smoke Rise, Stone Mountain area. One more time studios. Let's get it. One more time. so tell us about opening up for Luda. Yeah, so open up for Luda. I would say if there are very few life changing experiences, you know. Like I can literally point to that time as like a life-changing experience. Because up until that point, I was just kind of doing music for fun. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And when that happened, it just one stepping on the stage in front of the, you know, thousands of people out there in the Georgia State arena and whatnot was just like, oh my gosh, like all the hard work, all the hustling done paid off. You know what I'm saying? And you know, backstage, he just I remember like we got to talk for a little bit. And typically artists don't be trying to mess with the openers, like, yeah, go open and all. I'll fucking, I'm the main show, all right. But he was so down to earth, and he was just like, yo, I can tell you got a lot of hunger in you.

Never lose that. You know what I'm saying? And anybody can say that, but like when you getting it from the big dog that's like up there already, it it it means everything, you know what I'm saying? So it just told me, I'm like, yo, Jake, we can really take this to like the highest of highs of length. You know what I'm saying? We just gotta keep going. So at that point was just so defining of like, all right, I'm gonna take this music thing seriously because um one, it was a lot of hard work leading up to that point, but the reward is what inspired me to believe that. Who is Jake at that point? Is he kind of just helping you out? Is he managing you? Yeah, literally that. He literally was a combination of a hype man and DJ at this time, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't even officially the manager yet, but that was um not too far after that he became that. So Jake was just that. He was also a producer, he was producing some of my records and whatnot, you know what I'm saying? Like at that point, I was realizing I was like, man, I can't produce everything. So maybe I need to take a back seat, a back seat, and let him maybe take over. And he was somebody I trusted with that. So he was serving a lot of different hats, man.

Shout out to Jake for real. Yeah, shout out Jake. Yeah, so what did you like most about the live experience? Yeah, not just the the Luda, you know, performance, but just what do you love about a live show? So the live show is really how I came up, man. Like I was never, it's funny, my brother you always tell me, you need to just spend like time in a studio. And I actually wasn't spending time in the studio. I would spend time on stages. I didn't care what the open mic was. I was at so many open mics, right? I was at on so many stages. So really that's how I came up. And I learned, man, it's just like if you really want to convince people, you need to get in front of them in person. You know what I'm saying? And also it just shows how much you believe in yourself, right? So for me, it was just about, you know, putting that to practice and like, you know, making sure it makes sense. And at the end, it was like, all right, I've practiced for all these months in front of all these smaller crowds. Now I got this big crowd. So I wasn't even nervous about it. I actually I'm more nervous about smaller crowds versus big crowds.

Cause I'm just like, okay, I can see all 20 of y'all. You know what I'm saying? In a big crowd, it's like, it's too many of y'all for me to give a damn. I just need to show up to show out. You know what I'm saying? So, but I just learned I was like, man, like this is where you can take it. You know, you can get to a point where like you get in front of thousands and so on and so forth. And I've gone on to perform in bigger stages since Georgia State. So that was a really strong um uh seed that was planted at that point, yeah, for me. Yeah, I feel like you saw something so important about the live show, yeah, that once again you kind of said, Fuck this, I'm taking this into my own hands. Yeah, and you started to promote or put on little showcases and events, right? Even even going as far as you rented a house, right? Or so where Jake was staying at the time, shout out to 270 Milton Ave, yo. We literally were up in that spot. Um, he he rented it from somebody, right? So it was like three or four people in there, roommates, college kids trying to figure shit out, not that far from Georgia State. So we just decided, all right, you know what, we're gonna like throw on a bunch of house parties, right?

And then the house parties was a chance to just connect with different people and just party, obviously, have a good time because we in college, and I would also perform, and I would bring out some of my buddies from the campus to come and perform, and it just kind of became a thing. Um, so much so that it evolved into like this really super dope event that we had called Creative Vibes Cookout, which was at the same spot but in the backyard. Now that one was a concert and a cookout. So we had my buddy um Chef Mel, he was like throwing down going crazy, still one of my best friends to this day. Um, and then we also got our first sponsorship. That was life blowing for us. Who was it? Dos Equis. No way. was the sponsor, yeah, really. Really? And that was a Jake, that was a Jake uh connect too. So they're just throwing beer at you for these parties, literally, like, oh bro, it was a whole lot. You know what I mean? And there was and there was definitely no underage drinking going on. Statue limitations on the plaza. So yeah. But they weren't checking IDs at the door. No, it was only it was only juniors and seniors in college that were showing up at the parties. Exactly.

No freshmen or sophomores. Nah, none whatsoever. but like what blew my mind was just I was like, holy crap, like companies are really trying to just like throw things for visibility, right? So that was like an early taste of like, you know, that side of event curating. Yeah. And like we went on to like do other concerts and stuff, but that one was another life, um, life-changing sort of experience uh defining moment for us. So you're really like kind of just making your own shows, kind of disguising them as parties, you know, to get people in the door, and yeah, and then boom, like now you're at my show. Now you at my you're welcome, motherfucker. This is what it is. It's kind of genius. Was it that thoughtful? Because it is a genius marketing strategy sitting here today discussing it, but was it intentional at that point too? Of like, I'm gonna put this on to further my career, or did you really just want to put those events on for the fuck of it? It was less about just being so self-serving, it was just about like, all right, what are the different things that people love to do? And we all like to kind of hang out and have a good time, right? So we would go to different events, and it's like, yo, we can do this much better. Like it's like even me getting into music, I was just like, I'm listening to the material at the time, 2010, 2011.

I'm like, uh, I could do this much better. That's why I want to get in. Like, I don't hear enough bars, like everybody wanna like snap your fingers, and that's cool. Like, I'll show up and snap my fingers too, but I'm like, I I want some bars. So when I started, I wasn't even singing. So whether it was from the events or it was from music, it was always like, Man, I see these people doing it, but we can do it much better, put a much better sauce on it. So that's was like the the approach to creative vibes. Cookout. Now I'm an artist, so if we got a performance element to it, obviously I'm gonna plug myself in the best performance slot too. You know what I'm saying? Where the crowd is, you know, maximum. I'm like, yeah, you can go right now. It's like 20 people. Oh, now it's like 75, 80. Alright, I'm gonna go on. You know what I'm saying? So I just like having more control, and I think really as a creative, um, you're able to magnetize more people when you have platforms. Yeah. Even one, even one more time. This is a platform. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like if Henry, yeah, if just a producer, and like that, you can connect with so many people, that's powerful. But the more you just extend your platforms and your reach, now you can tap into more people. Now you can bring in like a Chad Tanise, who I got a crazy story about him.

Um, because he brought Chad. Shout out, Chad, man. Shout out Chad. I heard the episode. I loved it about it. Great episode. Um so funny, man. Some of his stories were like shit, you can't even you really can't believe it. You're like, yeah. Wait, Jeezy did what to you early on in your career. 55 fucking thousands. Like, yeah, what? You know what I'm saying? Like, that was wild to me. I didn't even know that about about that whole thing. So um, but again, it was just about building platforms. So I think I just realized back then I was like, all right, the more you build platforms, the more you can one bring people together. And obviously, as a creative, you can also capitalize. Right. Yeah. It's the entity, it's not just the personal kind of brand. It's you're making a thing. That's it. That could become anything. That's it. What were some of your influences? Who were some of your influences uh musically that made you, you know, that that made you wanna try and do music? Like really get into it. Yeah, I'd say easily Tupac. It was still, you know, at this point, I had gotten to the US. So I could now access my own, you know, whatever I want to access.

So I just got a chance to, you know, just kind of study more into his music, you know. what I'm saying from Tupacalypse Now, which was like his debut album, all the way through, you know, just like you name it. I was just soaking up like you know, his material. So I it's funny. Like when I first started rapping um back then, and I'm trying to remember any of my songs, it's just it was so this is like middle school. I would literally try to rap like I'm Tupac. you know what I'm saying? Like I was like literally trying to rap like I'm Tupac. Yeah, and that was like my you know how I came into it. So I'd say he was a huge just inspiration for me. But later on down the line, easily Kanye West, you know, Kanye West with his confidence, just how he approaches things and how he approaches music, you know what I'm saying, and using his vocals as uh you know an instrument. An instrument, right? Like I was just so inspired by that. So I'd say between those two, man, those are like a huge foundation for my material. The big word that you just used for me is confidence because it's there's something about the conviction, the believability. Yeah, it's like you don't even have to agree with what these guys are saying. Yeah, you can just tell that they mean it.

That's it, and they believe it, and you like you feel that. You know, that's like it's like how cults get started. You know what I mean? Like facts, like, whoa, like this guy, you know, I believe him. I'm listening to what he's saying now. And those those are two guys that stick out to me as like you believe what they're saying when they're speaking or singing or rapping. That's exactly it. And a third, um, for me was also the dream. The dream is so slept on to me in a sense of just like his talent and just his songwriting ability. Um, at the time, what really stuck out to me about the dream was his album sequencing. Like, I think that's that's really a lost art. Like, people sit down and say, How do I transition from this song to that? You know what I'm saying? And he had this like, um, I'm trying to remember exactly which one. It was like three songs, right? It started out on Nikki and then goes off into this other song, and then it goes into Yamaha. And it's just like, bro, it what he did was he would take bits and pieces of the song and put it in the next one. Yes. So it's almost like growing and growing on top of each other, and then by the time you're done, it's just like this complete beautiful transition through the project. No skips.

So you mentioned a few, I would say more personal characteristics of or at least artist branding characteristics of Kanye, the believability, the confidence. Yeah. Right. What would you say are some of the characteristics that you either draw from, you know, personally and bring out into your artistry, or just you know, if you were to be described with a few adjectives, yeah. I I like asking this question to know kind of what our guests think of, you know, how they want to be perceived. Yeah. So I would say it's it's multiple layers. Number one is definitely passion. Like when I'm talking about things, you're gonna feel the passion about it, right? Like, especially on relationships, right? Especially on like the hustle and the grind. Because I live this. So it's just like when I talk about it, it's just natural, like it pours out of me. So passion is a huge thing. Uh, another thing is also just somebody who's gonna go and get it. Um, I'm not sure if Jake told you about the whole Justice Trail thing, but when I'm when I have that conviction about something, like you're gonna feel it as well. So that's something that comes across, especially in the music.

And then ultimately, even like when I'm doing my live performances, you're gonna be like, yo, this is somebody who believes in what he is like presenting and giving to us, right? So all those things definitely are ingrained um from my music, from my branding, from my um live performances, so on and so forth. Like, all those things are there, yeah, for sure. So you mentioned the just justice trail, excuse me. Yeah, I mean, when I heard about that from you first, and then hearing more about it uh and doing my own research. I mean, yeah, holy cow. Yeah, incredible. Yeah, tell the people what the heck Justice Trail was, yeah, uh, what you did, what it meant to you. Like, like talk to us about it because that is an incredible part of your story that I definitely think that people can gain gain a lot of insights from. Listen up, motherfucker. Yeah, for sure. Love. look him in the eye and say, listen up, motherfuckers. Listen up, peeps. He's such a kind soul.

He can't even cuss at you guys. No, it's love. So Justice Trail was a campaign where I walked and biked from Atlanta, Georgia, starting from Ebenezer Baptist Church, the Church of Martin Luther King, all the way to the Statue of Liberty in New York. So that means I'm literally waking up every day. I would either run 30 miles or I'm biking 60 plus miles. You know what I'm saying? Unreal. Every day. Crazy. Like on foot. Like I'm traveling on foot, like no car, no nothing. I'm seeing the the countryside, the roads. I'm just, I'm there, bro, from like seven in the morning till like as late as Jake will allow me, because he was damn near like a uh, you know, a chaperone or something in that process. Like, yo, we gotta quit for the night. Man, you might get hit by a car. Like it's a whole argument. But ultimately, we did this campaign because it, you know, it was kind of at a part where like a lot of the police killings were getting so crazy. Yep.

And I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to just put out a hashtag. I didn't want to just retweet. I didn't want to repost. I wanted to simply connect with a lot of people with different perspectives and just understand, like, yo, this is taking a lot, it's taking a toll on me. I don't know how to feel with the process, because it's like it almost feels like what can we do? But like, how do you see things? You know what I'm saying? So up in North Carolina, South Carolina, which obviously is predominantly white. It's like I'm talking to people along the way to see how they feel about things, all the way through the more liberal parts, which is you know, further up north and stuff. And it it that was the most powerful part about it for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I was biking and running and all that stuff, all those miles, but the most powerful part was the connection to the people. And then ultimately what we were getting at was how can we have more tangible solutions to start solving the issue of police brutality. And for us at the time, it was like we feel like there's a need for more transparency in the interaction between police officers and the people, which was body cameras, right? And there was like a way to approach it.

So we was just like, okay, all right, that's what we're gonna like champion and like basically advocate for. And we even still on the site, you go to justicetrail.org on the site today, we basically update which states have passed um body camera legislation, and you know, which states like we provide the like the center of information for people to reach out and advocate for because we think it's a huge thing now. It's not the end all be all, like um there's a campaign called Campaign Zero, right? they inspired us early on because they had like 10 different things that the world, yeah, the US needs to do to really champ, like actually overcome police brutality. And one of those things were body cameras. There are more things needed, but for us, it was like how do we start with one thing? Yeah, so we just advocated for that through Justice Trail, and then at the end of it, there was a documentary, right, which featured the actual journey, number one, and number two, a lot of commentary for a lot of folks. I actually collaborated with Jadena, Roman Giannather, Aria, like a bunch of amazing people, activists from the scene, right? Just to get their commentary, see how they feel.

We put it all together to encapsulate the whole entire experience, and then we put it out there. And you know, it's on YouTube. You search Justice Trail, it's gonna pop up. You're gonna see me going through it, you know, struggling, but also connecting with people along the way and presenting some of those conversations. And never giving up. Never giving up. Making it for sure. How long did it take? Um, it was, I'm sure it was somewhere in the 20s. It was no more than a month, but it was like 20-something days. Yeah. To be honest. It's, Oh my God. It's I really I still can't believe that happened. Like to be honest, I sit back. I'm like, yo, like, what was running through your mind? But it's gotta make you think like if I'm if I could do that, like what else can I do? You know, it's almost like what am I capable of? I can push myself and do something like this. Yeah, maybe I have some like untapped powers. Yeah, life defined life, like I'm I keep bringing it up, but like I have several life defining moments, and that was a huge one for me. It's got to be. for sure. I I just hearing that the Justice Trail project and and that whole you know initiative that that you spearheaded, I mean, holy shit, like that was so cool. And for me to be able to call you a friend and like know that you've accomplished something like that.

Like, yeah, the music is great. I love your music. We'll get into that, you know, shortly. But for sure, holy cow. I mean, I think that stuff is just inspirational for anyone. I mean, for something you believe in, yeah, to take it to that level of like of sacrifice, right? To you know that's physical sacrifice, obviously, you know, emotional sacrifice to be connecting with people and you know, help tell their perspective on the critical, you know, matter. Yeah, it's amazing, man. Some Gandhi shit right there, man. No, seriously, and it's it's something that you know Henry and I have definitely talked about how can we, you know, make a stand with something else, right? Because it's just bigger than music. It is, I think it is music is great and it's what holds us, you know, down it and it brought us together. So I, you know, I can't say it's it's not important, but just something like that, man. I mean, yeah, that if music fell off the face of the earth, like still something like that can stand the test of time, and that's like incredible. So you talked about you've had a lot of projects in your discography over the years since you've been an artist. Um Dear 20 something, I know it's one of your more recent projects of the bunch, but I mean it is such an amazing body of work.

Classic do you do you feel like you got better throughout the years that that is kind of what you hold now as the standard from an album perspective? Or is there another one that you think that is a little nearer and dearer to your heart? Would you say? Yeah, I'd say Dear 20 something is my favorite release project to date. And I know it's my favorite because you know artists, they're quick to like archive things and you know pull it down and whatnot. But that one is it's just I think it just stands the test of time. It was from um what, two years ago and whatnot. And it's still like I still play each track. I'm still so excited about it. You know what I'm saying? Me too, man. I'm serious. Like it's in constant rotation for me. Yeah, that means everything. It's an amazing project. Appreciate the stream. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, seriously. Appreciate that. Um, but ultimately I have grown since that time period. And I think even the record that um, you know, H3 and I worked on Kryptonite, which I'm rocking the merch. Shout out. Can we get a can we show the people that hoodie? That is a beautiful hoodie. Listen here. hoodie.

I might be burning up a little bit, but trust me, that's because this thing is flames. You feel me? This is this is fire. Then zoom in on that for the edit. Yeah, he's he's sweating, but it's totally worth it right now. And you can't tell on the camera how comfortable these are, by the way. No, they're super comfy. It's the softest thing I've ever put on my body. Yeah, yeah. How'd you guys meet? Tell us about how you guys ended up waking up. That's a great story, actually. Man, we we jump in okay, hold on. Let me just say, So, how do we how did Henry and I meet? So um ultimately, well, first and foremost, backtrack. Um in in like an earlier part of my life, we was doing Creations of Bliss, right? Which was the DJing, that was me and Jake. Me and Jake had that company, Creations of Bliss. And we were DJing, doing videos all kinds of stuff. We had a residency at Topgolf. and like one day we needed somebody to fill in. That person couldn't fill in. So that person recommended Henry. So we crossed paths at that point. Like he came in. That's what I was saying. DJ Henry. It's few and far between anytime he's getting behind the uh boards, but yeah, or you know. behind the tables. Topgolf was the was the pinnacle of my DJ career thus far. Here we go.

Between that and even the show. It's possible. Yeah. He did for the kryptonite show, which is which is dope. Yes, sir. Um but ultimately that's where we first met. But it it wasn't clicking as far as you know, artists to produce, it was just more of like he's coming in to make sure that we don't lose our damn residency contract. So great. Right. Um good job, Henry. Right, yeah, appreciate you. So you the bar was just can someone DJ? That was the backups backup. Yeah, and Jake is so like. You really took it to the next level. Jake is so anal about stuff. He literally, I think he provided like all the things to play. The music and shit. Like he was like, play all of this. Don't don't try to experiment. So I try to I could have done it. Literally, bro. Like anybody. could just put it up. But It was like clean music only, too. So I didn't have a lot of that, so I was kind of grateful for it at the same time. Thanks, Jake. For sure. Yeah. So the thing, the thing is, like, you know, that was a crossing path thing, but we didn't really like connect like that, right? Yeah. And then later on, we also just kind of met at an event. And at that time, it was like, let's exchange IGs. It still wasn't like we gonna work.

You know what I'm saying? You know how you meet anybody like yo, we gonna work, let's lock in. It was literally like, oh yo, you're dope. You I like your energy, let's exchange IGs, right? And then fast forward to um, you know, getting into um kryptonite and whatnot, he just reached out. He just reached out and whatnot. And I just the moment I remember is yeah, so you live at the same uh complex as like my one of my best friends. Oh, I didn't forget about that. And I my best, I'm going to my best friend's place. Um, we're gonna go out somewhere. And he had like already left somehow. I missed him. So I get to his place, they're not even there. So I'm just standing out front of this place, like waiting on an Uber. Here comes Pro Hayes coming out of the coming down the road, and I'm like, yo, and he's like, yo, and we linked up like that. And at the time I hadn't even we hadn't even put the DJ thing together yet. I didn't even I remembered that way later that I had already met you. That was crazy that we had already met after we met again. Um that's a weird story.

But it worked out somehow. It did. It did, and I'm glad it did, right? Because again, you know, the song like Kryptonite is one of the most well-received records, you know what I'm saying? Obviously, the numbers reflect, but people just kept saying, like, yo, man, I can't believe like you went to that place even vocally, and it was just like thanks to that chemistry that you know was sparked in the studio, you know what I'm saying, from his production, and just like us talking about different things. So let's let's play a snippet from it real quick. Let's definitely play. Yeah. This is Kryptonite by Pro Hayes, featuring production by your guy here, Henry with the three. Baby, come on over to my Kryptonite. I can love you because you be my Kryptonite. let's do what we like. Let's do what we like. I don't want no love. so you wanna fight. That's how to spike, girl. So you gonna hit me another day, another night. girl. My mama said I need to settle with the right girl. That was kryptonite by you guys. You know, H3, baby. That was

That was an amazing experience. I mean, yeah, Henry, what was it like working with this guy? Because you have, you know, obviously I have my own experience, uh, but I think from a collaborator perspective, would love to hear what it was like. He is uh he's very open to things, you know, he's very like accepting. And, you know, I would he would let me try a lot of things, a lot of them didn't work, you know, but he let me give it a try, and we always, you know, would find a way to get there. So um to me, that's how you can kind of like get to the coolest stuff. Yeah to really get the really crazy cool new kind of sound, you have to go through like all types of sound that don't work. Yeah, and you have to be willing to try 10 things that don't work, you know, to get to the one thing that's like whoa, that really works. Yeah. So we naturally kind of fell into that, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think something you're always talking about is being willing to get out of your comfort zone. Yeah. And it's not to say that you need to force something or do something that's completely off the wall, right? But if you if you're always leaning and pushing that that comfort zone, that's something I I hear you talk to artists about a lot.

And I think that it sounds like that's what you guys I think you need to be comfortable to be able to experiment, you know, like maybe in a comfortable place, and then when you're when and then you can kind of feel good about like venturing out from where you're normally at, you know. What are you working on now? Because obviously Kryptonite was last year. Yeah. Um, but I know you've had your single Make It. Yeah, which another amazing, you know, in inspirational, kind of community oriented song, right? Yeah. Um, that I think speaks to some of the characteristics that you embrace, right? As a person, like you know, you know, we're gonna make this, like we can do it. Uh kind of that that's my boy Janume. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yep. So that was your most recent single. Yeah. Um, obviously, you know, still kind of um, you know, promoting that. But what's what's on the horizon?

Are you are you working on a project? Are you you know, working on yourself? What's what's going on here? Yeah, we're working on working on self is very key. We need to just like have a segment of like self and like all the things learned, honestly. But um ultimately I am working on a project. I'd say the project is easily 70%, you know, written and like, you know what I mean, like even recorded. Because having the studio on my spot, I can just easily jump in the studio and cut. Yep. Um, I'm now in a space where it's just like, all right, I'm gonna release it like in singles, one by one. It's crazy. I was just talking to Zip before I came here, and we got a song that's coming real soon, real real soon. And I'm excited about that collaboration. Um, but it's just about me taking my time to like kind of put things out more gradually. Um, starting with, you know, obviously Kryptonite, that was a lot further back, but then coming with make it like all these tracks are gonna be on the album, right? Um, but I like to just kind of Do we just hear that you're gonna make his album? Is this a live revelation that you just made the album? I didn't know.

I didn't know. No, he actually's on the it's a it's another song that's for show on the project, and it's like uh remember that one's like dun, dun, dun, dun, like every time that they didn't believe, I believed in me. Yeah, love that song. We gotta finish it. Yeah, we do. We dead ass do. Um I feel like Henry hides all the great songs from me. He sends me like the ones I don't even need. I'm just kidding. Just make a lot of songs. Yeah, it's just a it's a deep cut of a record, though. It's a deep cut. Yeah, but if if it's something from Pro Hades, you know I gotta hear it. I'll send it to you after this podcast. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. It's love. So, you know, I'm just in a space where it's like, all right, I'm gonna put out the project. I know for sure by next year. Before I get to that point, though, people go and get a lot of singles, get some videos, get some, you know, some even live performances. That's something I'm setting up now, right? So that's the space that I'm currently in. Cool. In a world of singles, because I think even with uh Dear 20 something, yeah, it was a lot of singles yeah that ended up there. Everything was the same, it was like nine songs were singles, and then the tenth song was just like I'm gonna add this on and then package it yeah and so it's it's interesting to me that's the extreme version of that's really extreme but but I I mean but I guess it worked. Yeah I mean I would never know once again the sequencing is great.

Yeah so are you keeping in mind sequencing for a project as you're rolling out these singles yeah or does it come out like I'm really curious on like how that all works because to me if it was just nine dope singles to then have to sequence them and it really work is that just a coincidence that you got lucky and that was just it worked that you do you know what I mean? I'm I'm way too intentional. Okay yeah you have to be so intentional it hurts right um but for me ultimately it was a matter of um just capitalizing on the time right yeah so for example when I even dropped make it not too long ago it was like yo where's kid in Thames that you don't need no idea, but that's killing it right now. Yeah I can't let them be running the streets all summer you know what I'm saying I gotta put something out to give the summer vibes. So that's why I put that out it was just capitalizing on time. And one of my favorite quotes actually and I think this is really important for musicians also is there also technically is no such thing as a perfect time there's just time in which you decide to do with it. You know what I'm saying?

Whoa whoa because that was a huge gem. Something that went up for us again. So there's no such thing as the perfect time there's just time and what you decide to do with it. You know what I'm saying? So as a creative I can like good one. I can I'm not gonna lie I can overthink sometimes but most of the time when I just sit down and say, all right, what do I want to do? I got this catalog. Shit, let's just drop this one based on this time is it whatever, put it out. And the reception's like, oh my God, this is so dope. You know what I'm saying? Like, what else you got? You know what I mean? So it's just like, all right, let me give more to the people, which I'm again, like that zip record, I think people are really gonna love. I love that song. You know what I mean? Um, so for me, I just get to that space where it's like, all right, let's put more things out, right? And then when we get to the project, I'ma sequence it based on, you know, the material, the message, and the sound transitioning. Shout out to the dream, like I said, you know, album sequencing, how everything can fit into each other. So for me, it's not really a problem because vocally, there's a lot of um cohesion. Yeah, you have a sound that makes it probably easier to sequence than some people who are all over the place.

Yeah, between the sound and also it's just essentially the message that I'm putting throughout the records. You know what I'm saying? So it makes it easy to transition them in and out, and then I'll go in and like, you know, like on Dear 20 something, there's that um levitate transition to or the hesitate to trans into levitate stuff like that. I I think about that ahead of time, and when I have it done, I like I'm gonna put this one out, put that out. But on a project, it comes together beautifully. So that's just how I'm looking at the music. You know what I mean? I just I'm I'm I'm very intentional about not the releases only, but even like the album, because that's important to me. Yeah, yeah. How would you describe your sound? My sound? Yeah, that's a great question. That's actually a really great question. For me, my sound is a combination. If I'm to start from the layman term part, is a combination of hip hop, meets soul, meets Afro Beats. That that is the ingredients, that's the recipe right there for my sound, right? Um, but ultimately, um, I've grown to a point, and I was very bar-heavy when I started on, but I've grown to a point where it's a lot more melodic and a lot more easy to digest. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

And I think it's it's an international sound because I've had to jump between so many different worlds. So I understand pulling from those experiences, it's something that, you know, if you're somebody who is sort of a global citizen, if you will, you travel, you're into culture, things of that sort, you're gonna just rock or you. can like, yo, like hearing the track like make it. The fact that I just went from like an Afro beat kind of singing, and then I just you know switched like a you know, American rapping, smooth, chill. It's just it's it's it's it's fun, it's exciting. So I'll take my sound as, as more of like a global citizen-esque, um, you know, with the different um cultures that I pull from. Yeah, and and obviously COVID has made it a little tougher, but you're you're a big traveler. You love, I mean, you went to Brazil on your own. Yeah, that was my first solo travel, man. Okay, but still, so like what's been your favorite place to uh to travel to? Brazil. Brazil, yeah, really. Easily, easily. No question. that wasn't just luck that I mentioned your Brazil trip. You nailed it. No. You'd you'd be on it.

I so I'd say it's between Brazil and also Mexico, because every time I go to Mexico, it's a great, I've been to Mexico three times. It's always a great time. Uh, but essentially Brazil was just a chance for me. You talk about, you know, venturing out of your comfort zone, right? I had never traveled anywhere by myself. And this was like I'm getting anxiety thinking about traveling by myself right now. And it was funny because I told my mom, I was like, Yo, mom, I'm gonna travel to Brazil by myself. And she was like, Eddie, why are you going to Brazil? So I went to Brazil, and this was um around definitely fall of last year. And what was cool about Brazil was the people are so down to earth, right? They all speak Portuguese, which I can't speak, so I was heavy on the Google Translate and whatnot. Um, but what so what was actually crazy was every one of my excursions got canceled because it was raining when I got there. So I was like, oh my gosh. Right. I'm in. Brazil. When it rains and pours, man. It rains it. I'm just like, I done paid all this money, I'm here now. Now what I'm gonna do. So what I ended up doing was, you know, I went to the mall, went to the restaurants, I even hiked for about seven miles through the city. Just like, you know, going through and just checking things out.

That's a lot shorter than your, you know, Atlanta to New York job. Right. I know, right? I'm sure seven miles was like no fucking problem. Right. But the icing on the cake for me ultimately was um this was like two days before I got out of Brazil, right? It was this company called Trip Tur, and that's spelled Trip and T-U-R. And it's it's a mom and pop. It's like literally this husband and wife who run it. And it's an ATV experience right. So again all my excursions got canceled so I got my money back from them joints and I hit them up. I'm like yo I see y'all on Google. Like I really want to go out and you know just hit the ATV. And they were like oh you need four people and I was like damn but it's solo. I ain't got four people. I have to have no friends in Brazil. I'm sorry I'm here by myself. Nobody but not thought about it So I was just like can I just pay the price of four people for just me and they was like duh like we just want the money. We don't care about the people you know so I literally just paid exactly we'd rather not have three more fuckers to deal with exactly you know I'm saying so I literally just paid them again I've been refunded from everything else so I just paid them that price and um I went out that day and it was the best experience bro literally for like a smooth two hours like imagine we ride in roadside you know husband and wife ahead of me I'm I got my own thing going crazy riding from the roadside and we hit these beautiful gorgeous beaches in Brazil right Wow. and it was even pouring a little bit but again ATV can take on everything. Yeah so we ride from that and then we go through the woods amazing we just riding through that and then my favorite part was when we hit the dunes, bro.

I didn't even know Brazil had deserts out there. Yeah. And we riding up and down and just going crazy. So that experience sealed the deal for me. Just because one, it wasn't something I could just get on trip advisor to make happen. I had to like really make some shake by reaching out directly. And then the experience itself was just so A1. Did you not try to find three Brazilian girls to go on a free excursion with you? Opportunity missed. Hey, look Listen, listen. No, we trust me. We turned up in Brazil. I turned up in Brazil. Yeah. For sure. On that front. No, it definitely reminds me of my Costa Rica horseback riding experience. Not as cool as ATVs necessarily, but still, we went from like in the middle of the jungle to uh like these hillsides on a farm kind of thing to the beach. And just literally seeing those three things, three different settings within the two hours that we were doing that was just mind blowing, man. It was so incredible. So it kind of reminds me of that. That's fine. But Henry. Is it time? I think it's time for the favorite segment.

Everyone's favorite. Everyone's favorite segment of the One More Time podcast. I think it's their favorite because I'm not leading it. This is something led by my friend Henry with a three. Henry, let's get it. It's the rapid fire rampage. Rapid fire. Ramp! Hopefully, Archer doesn't come at us if we get really big for that sound bite. Maybe we could just do a partnership. I would love that. So the Rapid Fire Rampage, Mr. Prohaze, is a three-part rampage. Okay. I'm gonna fire some short answer questions at you. Just give me a quick answer. Then I'm gonna do a this or that, give you two choices, pick one. And then I'm gonna do a word association. Give you one word. You give me one word off the top of your head. Right back. Is it just gonna be three questions or is it gonna be a whole bunch? Three parts. Three parts. Yeah. Multiple. Buckle up. It's a rampage. But what I'm saying is like, he'll let you know within the parts are a bunch of questions. Or is it like one question each part? One part at a time.

Yes. Multiple questions per part. Do the short answer He's very thorough. He wants to know what he's getting into. I don't know what I'm getting into. It's hella stressed, but let's get it. That's why it's a rampage, my friend. Here we go. Rapid fire rampage, Prohaze. Initiate rampage. First question of the short answer. Give us one artist in your top five all time. Tupac Shakur. Give us one soccer player in your top five of all time. Lionel Messi. Who's not with Barcelona anymore, man? Yeah, shout out to PSG. They really got a solid one. Saint Germain. They're gonna be uh a force. Yeah. Give us one genre of music you secretly like. Folk. Whoa. Cool. That's cool. Joe Biden exiles you from America. Where do you go to live? Man, I'm headed straight to Brazil. If you were in the music industry, but not as an artist, what would you be doing?

Oh, this is supposed to be rapid, right? If I was in the music industry, honestly, first thing you think of. Damn, can I be a manager? I would want to manage people. Absolutely. Shit, definitely a manager. You can be anything you set your mind to. All right, mom. Nah, for sure. Give us one underground artist that more people should know about. Pro Hayes. The fuck. Love it. Give us one of the dumbest things you've ever done. Let's humanize you a little bit. One of the dumbest things. I've ever done. Because you seem like a golden boy. Nah, not at all. We really need you to know. Although maybe it was in like those early years in Ghana when he was being a shithead. Easily that. Oh, I I I ran, I ran away from school at the age of nine. This was the same year before I left um Ghana and came to the U.S. I ran away from boarding school, and it literally was a whole full day of expedition to get back with my grand grandma because I missed her so much. That's how semi-sport and sheltered I was. I was like, I can't be here without my grandma.

Grandma, I'm gonna leave this school and go back to the mountains. And I literally spent all day, like I was like begging like, you know, truck drivers and people for like rides, and like, you know, one person would get me to this point, the next person would get me to that point. It was just crazy. That's kind of dumb. even his bad thing was like so sweet. Yeah, he misses his grandma so much that he wants to you know hitchhike his way to the mountainside back to his grandma's place. But you gotta think about it. I'm so young, like somebody can snatch me. Anything could happen. bro. I mean, yeah, we're glad that you're still here to this day. it all worked out. Let's flip that. Give us one of the best decisions you ever made. One of the best decisions I ever made was to um always just go for what I believe in. Just, you know, from music to Justice Trail to you know, school, um, work, people that I, you know, hold near and dear to my heart. It's just always just go for what you believe in. Love it. If you could work with any producer, live or dead, who is that person? Kanye West.

Great answer. Keep it a buck. I need that. I need that Kanye plug, and he got to bring Mike Dean in the session. It's still produced by Kanye, but you gotta sauce it up with Mike Dean. That's a tall order. Add Mike Dean in there. Anything's possible in the Rapid Fire Rampage. That's right. Yep. The year is 2023. You just opened a restaurant. What is it? Man, I'm serving a Japanese fusion with Ghana. Whoa. I think that's gonna be wild situation. Can I invest? Are you raising? We're trying to get in on the ground floor. Yeah. Part one of the rampage. I got I got my own GoFundMe right here in my pockets. Just, you know, slide me the credit card and debit card. We're gonna figure it out. Part one, you're doing great so far, man. That was fantastic. We're moving on to the this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. You just pick one. Okay. Starting off with. And this is the first one's interesting here. You could interpret this a couple ways. Okay. Soccer or football? Soccer.

I was just playing soccer this morning. Yeah, but football. Football. That's right. Are they both soccer? Choco bonito. Beer or liquor. You should have put wine in there somewhere. I'll take liquor though. Not one of the choices. I'll take liquor. I think I know the answer to this one based on uh the podcast so far, but America or Africa? Africa. Ooh, okay. You literally thought it was America for sure, didn't you? Because he was like ready to leave. You were big wrong. I was. Biden literally just exiled me, remember? Yeah, but you went to Brazil, not Ghana. I meant to say, and you know what happened. How did you ditch your family that's still in Ghana? He said, peace out, I'm going to Brazil. Yo, can we redo that question? Because I was literally like, no, no, no, that's one I'm not editing. I was gonna, I was gonna say, yo... your family's gonna hear this and they're gonna. I was literally gonna say, Oh fuck that I was like, I meant to pick Ghana, but I set you up to say Ghana, but you didn't say Ghana. I know. Yeah. He's gonna be in Brazil lonely by himself and no family or friends. Another one.

Bro, I turned up in Brazil, trust me. That's, that's, that's all I'm gonna say. Yeah. Another one that we might have kind of got a hint at during the podcast. House party or the club? House party. Indeed. Nike or Adidas? Nike. Day or night. Night. Oh. I thought you'd be a day guy. Um, day is cool, but I'm most inspired at night. When everybody, here's the thing about me, um, and why I I love at night. It's something about realizing that everybody or most people are asleep in the eastern part. It's my favorite part about it. I hate that you're agreeing with Henry. I'm about to like overcome and just kill y'all. There's no distractions like at 2 a.m. You can just unplug and you don't have to answer phone calls or reply to text messages and shit like that. And don't let me stay up all night because it's a wrap at that point. Yeah, the output is just outta here. Moving on to TV shows or movies. Oh wow.

Let's do it. Oh, that that that was a question. That's it. Yeah. which one? Damn. Oh, wow. No, I'm TV shows now. I used to be movies, but The series, man, yeah. Series guy. Yeah. Spotify or Apple Music? Spotify. T-shirt or button down. T shirt. And this is another one that we might have gotten an answer for in studio or at a show. Damn. I had to say at a show. Indeed. Easily at a show. And then the one I've been looking forward to, rapping or singing. Rapping. Second part of the rampage. Rapping. Even though you've moved into a more melodic space now. Yeah. Rap. Always rap. The rap's in your heart. Here we go. Final part of the rampage. It's the word association. I'll give you one word. You spit the first word off the top of your head right back at me. Okay. Time. Money. Cryptocurrency. Wow. Casamigos. Turn.

Stage. Kill it. Video games. Legia. Stress. Hell no. Fashion. Prohaize. You see the hoodie. You see, you see it. You see it. I didn't design it. Atlanta. Amazing. Jerk. The fuck? Um, uh Caribbean Jamaica. When you said jerk. I don't know why I like thought of off. It could have gone different ways. That's why I thought it was a good one. Um, jerk chicken. Biden. Interesting. Kanye. Go. What a rampage. What a rampage, folks. What an episode.

This has been a pleasure having you on, man. Did you have a good time? Yeah, I had a great time. That's awesome. No, like I said, we we know each other, we've worked together, but having you on the podcast to really tell the people your story and you got stories. And yeah, and and I mean, we just scratched the surface. That's what I, you know, love about having people on, is you know, try to highlight the things that you know they want to make sure that their their audience knows and that our audience can gain a lot of insights from. But this is by no means, you know, the whole book, right? These are these are you know highlights from certain chapters. Cliff notes. Yep, this is the cliff notes for sure, but but we hope that you know everyone out there gained a lot from this uh conversation with Pro Haze. If you don't mind, please like, please follow, please subscribe, drop a comment, tell a friend, tell your friend's friend. Tell your friend to tell a friend to tell a mama. Exactly. We're here every week, every Thursday, in your face. And until next week, Henry, we out of here. We out. Love, peace. Pardon she like one more time. They put that one more time.

Paddy she like one more time. Hop up in a fine skirt. No. I don't want me this year dripping all. Middle finger to the law.