DJ Cleotrvppv Interview: Why DJs are More Important Than Ever

The best way to figure out what's going on in Atlanta is to follow uh an Atlanta DJ. DJs are so easily accessible. Like, I literally have an email in my Instagram. I don't like when people DM me, like, yo, can I send you a song? If my email is right there, send me the s I don't give a f what your technical skill is. If you could play a good song, to me that's the biggest thing. Diving further into the One More Time podcast journey into film and TV. We have a very special guest that I'm beyond thrilled to welcome in. It's Zoe Saldana. Right now. On the pod. You know her from Avatar and other things, probably. I was about to say, who the f*** is that? Zoe Saldana is crazy. She's great. I I've never gotten that, but I love her. Thank you. It was a whim. I just kind of who have you gotten. Yeah. Because I love being like Henry, it's big miss.

You look younger, obviously. Keke Palmer. Kiki Palmer. Oh God. Henry, you're fired. Angela Bassett, like a younger version of her and Whitney Houston. Oh, okay. Whitney Houston. It's the f***ing cheekbones. Like, yeah. It's it. We could have stayed in music, bro. Instead, you took us out to the film. Yeah. That whole film narrative, bro. It's a fun journey. Stop it, man. All right, in all seriousness, we have one of the hottest DJs in Atlanta. We got Cleo Trappa in the f***ing house. Trappa. Hi. Let's go. Hey, y'all. Do you have a like a drop? I do. Yeah, how's it go? What is it? DJ Cleo Trappa. Ooh, it's like smooth. It's not my voice, yeah, it's one of my homies. Okay. Yeah. DJ Cleo Trappa. I didn't know DJs. I guess DJs do have, yeah. They have tags. Of course. They have tags. You got a brand, bro. You're right. Just like producers. Yeah. Who had it first? Producer tags or DJ tags? Oh, we want to talk about mixtape days. DJs had it on lock. They had to. Think about it. I think so. Hustlenomics. Yeah. All that. Yeah.

Affiliates. Uh-huh. Like DJ Ill Will, DJ Rockstar. DJ. Ill Will. They say this shit all the time. So. I was just asking you before the cameras, you know, turned on about like whether or not you're a big talker on the mic. Uh-huh. Because like some DJs are like, I got a feeling tonight. Like, you know, just the whole time they're talking. Almost talking more than playing music. Yeah, I ain't got none of that shit in me. I I'm a very like get to the point, get the hell up out of here type person. But I I I just the balance of that is just very difficult for me. Like I've tried, but I try to steer away from those things where I have to talk on the mic. Y'all not paying me to host this shit. Y'all better call somebody and do it themselves. It's a whole separate gig. It is. It's two drop. Like seeing a DJ like hold a mic and try to DJ at the same time. So you want me to do the lights too? I just don't have the energy or the capacity to do. Yeah. I I'll say how y'all feeling. We doing good. You know, I might say something like, make sure your tipped bartenders can have a good time. If it's a dead moment, or you know, like I like to make shit build up a little bit. So if it's some space, like I will say something.

But it ain't gonna be like, oh, the bad bitches come to the front. Call somebody else. I am not that girl. Oh man. Okay, well. But respect to the people who can sure. Yeah. Well, because like part of the reason I wanted to get you on the show was so that you could do a drop for us, like for the one more time podcast. So I got you on that now. No, really? Yeah. Let's hear it. What you got? What you got for the one more time. Just kidding. Okay. Fine, fine. All right. But so that's all right. So like one of the most, you know, legendary names in the DJ scene here in Atlanta. Recently, like posted to his story, shouting you out as like Peter. Exactly. Yeah. You know, shout out to Peter, uh, Canterbury Tales. Yes. Yeah. And so, you know, he basically shouted you out saying, like, you know, Clear Trappa was one of the hottest DJs in the city. It's been like beautiful to like watch your, you know, kind of growth and your rise. What what do you put into like the criteria around hottest DJ, best DJs? You know, because he kind of mentioned a few different things that he seemed to, you know, include in his evaluation, right, of you as a DJ. But I I just I just want to get your take on like what makes a good DJ.

Um really somebody who can read the crowd. Like I don't give a fuck what your technical skill is. If you could play a good song, you know how to pick a song. To me, that's the biggest thing. So it's sound selection. It's sound selection. That's true. And making sure you're looking around and and giving the people what they want. Sound selection. Number one. Number one. It's not it's just not it's just it. It just didn't even continue No. People in a party, they don't give a fuck. most of the time they don't give a fuck how the song comes. Depending on where you are. Yeah. Depending on where you are. I've been to places and I've heard DJs who don't have the greatest transitions have a good song selection. As long as the people are dancing, they drunk half the time, they don't give a fuck. How you bring that bitch in. Now the nerds like me in the crowd will be like Correct. they miss that transition a little bit. It's certain people. 99% do not get it. Especially Atlanta. Yeah. I mean, most of the time they just, oh that's fine, you know, tag up with their girls. They don't care. They have a good time, they could care less. They literally just want like good song number one to go to good song number. two and that's the shit. And on and on.

If you fuck something up, just drop a sexy red song real quick. You know what I mean? That or hit an air horn or something. Yeah. Like I did that on purpose. Don't, don't encourage him. No, I'm not. I'm Sorry. Just stop the mentioning of air horns and I'm DJing the podcast. Yeah, well, you're not getting paid to do that part of it. Neither are you. Um so so yeah, so what do you think your biggest strength is as a DJ? Is it is it the song selection? I would say strong song selection, but I also love to like blend music. Um and I'm big, I don't even like to say mashup, but I'm big on creating something that hasn't been done before, and it's all unintentional. Like it's not like, oh, I'm gonna fuck them up now. But it's just like how do I keep myself entertained? And I just like to go back and forth with a lot of different things. So on that note, do you use like a mixed-in key? Do you see the key of different songs? Does that matter? as much? Sometimes to me, not as much. Some people gonna hate that about me. But as long as the shit is in the right BPM, yeah.

I ain't too crazy about it. Tempo matters more. Yeah. And then do you have like multiple versions of songs? Do you keep like a cappellas, instrumentals? So yes and no. So with the new like Serato stems update, you can like create an acapella with any song. I heard it's pretty good. It's it's fire. I do feel like it makes it a lot easier, but I don't depend on that. Yeah. I don't lean on that. But certain hot songs, it's like let me get the beat for this. Correct, like my favorite thing to mix is peaches and eggplants into something that it doesn't need to go into. Let's go. But every time that beat come in, they you know they know what is coming. And then it's like actually don't, because I took the vocals out, but y'all go wait, and then I'll bring it back in. Ooh, yeah. Shout out to Coop on that beat. Yes. One more time 11. Easy, yeah. So, like it, you know, what's the dynamic between new music, right, versus like catalog music? You know what I mean? Like, do you have a tendency to include like more new shit or just like I try to do like 50-50. Yeah.

I love old music. I love old trap music, I love old soul music. So I try to play a little bit of everything if I'm in the environment too. Right, yeah. Always comes first. Yeah. I'm always well aware of like where I am 90% of the time. Like some of the time I was like, oh shit, I wasn't expecting this type of crowd. But it's always about adaptability. How can you maneuver around that shit? Do you do like corporate events at all? Hell no. I don't like playing clean music. Yeah, right. That's the hardest part. I will if the bag is there. You're missing out on a bag. I was going to say. I know I'm missing out on a bag, but I mean, honestly, I've gotten hit up about a few things. I've done a few of them. I don't really enjoy myself there. Yeah. And you want to enjoy yourself. Correct. Yeah. So, like, speaking of kind of, you know, depending on where the environment is, right? That kind of dictates what kind of mix you're doing, right? Like the song selection, etc. Do you ever play music that you know the people will like, but you're not necessarily like a fan of? No. I'm not playing anything I don't like. So you choose your venues.

carefully. Yeah, no. I mean, I've been DJing for like eight years now. So I'm at the point where I can like say no to certain things. Yeah. Um, and I'm fine with that. Because I feel like at a certain point of time in time when I was just like trying to get, you know, my bag together, trying to figure out where I wanted to play. I played a lot of shit that I absolutely hated. Yeah. People aggravating, coming up to you asking you for a request. Don't come up here and talk to me. I'm sorry. Do you have a no requests sign or something? Most of the time I have a bodyguard, like somewhere around, and they I just direct them over there. His sole purpose is to just not let them request music. Yeah, He's not worried about anything else. The best thing is they don't know. So, you know, they're like, oh, can you play this? And then homie trap, champagne trap. He'll be like, yeah, okay, Got it. Got it. And then he'll just whisper. Wait, trap's your bodyguard. Champagne Trap? I have a lot of bodyguards. I was like, Trap is not your bodyguard. He's usually always in the booth. I know, just because he's having as much fun as possible. He's on one corner of me, though. So they can get to him quicker than they can get to me.

Most of the time. Okay. When they have a bodyguard that can DJ. Though. Yeah. But not just specifically him though. Yeah. Okay. But it's always somebody. Okay, because shout out to Champagne Trap, another legendary DJ here in the city. I'm like, he's not your bodyguard. I was like, he might be like playing that, like just like he's pretty tall, bro. He he's, you know, I'm not saying he can't be a bodyguard. I just mean like he's probably just being like, get on. He's just yeah. He's not like he's not like strapping up, like ready to just protect Cleo at all costs. I don't know. Maybe he is. Protect my protect my accent. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. People are rude. Yeah. People are very rude. And they feel like because they are entitled because they're in the party that they have a say so in something like sit down. I literally had a question of like, do you take requests? I'm not even kidding. It's somewhere in my list to cross it off. Honestly, no. But it depends. Like, honestly, sometimes, not sometimes. There's been a few times where requests, and I'm like, okay, actually, that would be good right now. If it happens to be good.

I was like, yeah, what about like the trusted, like, like the homies? Some of them No, the my homies absolutely like. Especially if it's a DJ. Yeah. Oh, can you please play this for me if it's something new? I'm like, yeah, I didn't even think about it. Sure. Because the DJs haven't been, I mean, the homies haven't been DJing for eight years. You know what I mean, so it's like, yeah, they have. I was like, I was like, her homies. They've been DJing Longer than me. Yeah, I was like, her homies, Henry. Longer than I have. Yeah, because her homies are, you know, the likes of Trap, yeah, Peter, etc. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's legendary. How much music do you need to know? Oh, God. Like, are you just like an encyclopedia of fucking music? So, yes and no. I have a, I don't know how to describe it, but I have like a memory to where I can like remember certain parts of songs. Might take me a minute to remember exactly what song it is, but then I like zoom through my brain, like, okay, that's what it is, and I'll just type it in. But yeah, so sometimes. Because I was gonna also ask, like, this is just so fascinating for me because I've never really thought about the process so much. So, like when you go to a gig, how much of your mix is like somewhat pre-planned and thought out?

Probably 20%. 20. Yeah. I'll like make a crate of songs that I want to play for that specific party. Maybe it's something that I just downloaded, but I want to remember, I'll put it in a crate. But nine times out of ten, I'm not staying in that bitch the whole time. Like I'm just there like scrolling. and say, okay, this will go into this. But I always try to like make sure I have like a song that's in a certain BPM for each BPM or like 70s, 80s, something like that. Because I love to blend, I like to mix. I don't do a lot of like just dropping on the ones. Yeah. Did that sound stressful? It's fun. Well, once you get used to it, you get comfortable. It sounds like thrilling, but also super stressful. Like not having it prepared. I don't know. He's Such a preparer. I love you. I got yeah, I got the notes. I used to do that. you know. I used to do that. Like, this is where I'm gonna start at, and I'm gonna just play in this whole crate. Never works. Yeah. Cause you don't know what, what, what people want. Yeah. You're not looking and checking. That was my biggest mistake starting out. I prepare a whole set.

Yeah. And they just weren't fucking with song three years. Yeah, something like that. And then I kind of get in my head about it, and then I start making mistakes. What are the mistakes that you can make as a DJ? Oh, you can fuck up a mix. Uh, you can come in too soon, go out too soon. You can have lyrics over some other lyrics. Yeah. But um, I mean, it's a lot of things. And equipment is just not reliable sometimes, too. Like last night, one of the CDJs on the right side kept sticking. So it was like What does that mean? So essentially, like it just it has a delay on it, like it was lagging. Yeah. Yeah. So like I'm scratching and then I'm scratching and I let go, and then the release was like two seconds later. Oh. But nobody knew it because I always have like my faders down low before I bring in a song. But I knew some shit was going on because the other DJs. That's another thing. Oops, sorry. DJs need to start pulling up today gigs early so they can hear the people before them. Because I saw it happen a few times with the other DJs that were playing last night. I was like, shit, it might be something wrong with that deck. And it was.

So how often are you using house decks? Do you ever use your own? honestly? I don't like to bring my shit. One insurance, two, it's a lot. I um prefer to play if they have something there. But I never go anywhere where I don't know what they have. Yeah. Never. Well, because, like, I mean, how different are the decks between you? It's so much shit. CDJ is the standard. CDJ is the standard if you're at somewhere that has like a good amount of money, you know? So you got CDJs, you have mixers. Most of the mixers are either an S9 or 900. All the shit is pioneer most of the time. I don't really see anything else other than that. But CDJs have like a new version. They got a 3,000. And and so if you don't have those yourself, do you just learn it? Like just learn it by being there? Yeah. So my first time playing on CDJs was at Soundtable, Rest in Peace to Sound Table. Rest in peace. Holy shit. That was really like my spot. Was that an EAV or no, that was on Edgewood. Edgewood, Edgewood. That's right.

Okay, sorry. Yeah. So they had CDJs, I think maybe like 2017 was my first time playing on them. And it was just when I um started to like go to player 99 events and they had a party called Atelier. And I was like once a month. But I opened a few of those for a trap and thrice. So this is before I was in player 99. I was gonna say, wait, okay, starting out. All right, because now you are a member of Player 99, which puts on like dope DJ events, like Theory, You guys have another one coming up soon, right? Yep. On the 16th, okay. There we go. Five points. All right. 10 to 230. Okay. Pull up. Okay. Yeah. When's this episode dropping? I think we're out of town, but uh when's this episode dropping? We're out of town. Next Thursday. Okay, so it'll be like shit. This might be dropping that day. It might be. Oh wow. Y'all come out tonight? Y'all go to Aisle 5, Five points, tonight. Pull up Atlanta. I know. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So like so you would pull up to their events and they had the shit already there. That that's really what I would prefer.

And I'm more of the type of person I'm pulling up like an hour or two beforehand. So I kind of, you know, I have a routine. Yeah. And plugging up my own stuff is just not my preferred thing to you. But I will if I have to. So I mean, we saw you at Beer and Tacos, and you were in like one of the, you know, kind of, you know, green room, dressing rooms, whatever. And like she was locked in, bro. You're just adding songs to her set five minutes before going on. Yeah. And because I think you were doing exactly what you were saying. It's kind of you were peeping like what the crowd was responding to. Yeah. And you were like on the fly, and we just completely interrupted you to try and interview you. I was like, I kind of felt she was like in the zone. and we're like, Can you stop what you're doing? Hey, y'all, can we get five minutes, you know? Y'all are cool. Y'all are quick. Got to the point. Yeah, it was a lot of money. that's all love. Um, so so how are you discovering new music? Soundcloud. Still. I stay on SoundCloud. Stays on SoundCloud, y'all. Till this day. Faithful, faithful. Okay, but what are you doing? Like, you go on SoundCloud. How are you actually finding it?

So, I'm going on Soundcloud. There are a few producers that I like, and I go listen to what they've like recently made. I go look through their likes, what they're inspired by. Um, but SoundCloud has like hella um, like if you have a favorite song, or you like a song, it'll pull up a playlist of like recommended songs. Oh, they have a great algorithm. Yeah, it it's really cool. So we were supposed to have uh Drea Jackson, who is like artist relations at SoundCloud. She was flying in from New York and we're supposed to do an interview with her. It didn't end up working out. But you know, we had a pre-call, so I'm gonna just go ahead and drop some of the sauce she was given. Okay. Um it was about like how many underrated tools artists and like DJs, producers, whatever have access to, like on SoundCloud. She was actually like inspiring me that SoundCloud is still like an extremely viable Just because it's not the SoundCloud era doesn't mean it's not here exactly. It's well in a lot of yeah, yeah. Okay, so artists out there, yeah, your favorite DJs and producers are still finding shit on SoundCloud. So even if people have like, you know, forgotten about it a little bit and think that you know Spotify and Apple is more and YouTube is like more where it's at, you know, from a streams perspective.

Like, there's still shit going on. I still get on DSPs, don't get me wrong. Yeah. Sure. I mean, everything is there, but other than that, it's like shit on TikTok. Yeah, shit I've seen on Twitter? Like a lot of some new kids I see, I'm like, damn, okay. Then I go from there and look, go on DSPs, look to see if they have music there. Hell yeah. So who are the GOAT DJs to you? Ooh, GOAT DJs? So many. Just Atlanta based? No, no, no, no. Let's go like, yeah, like so. One of my favorites is is uh static Selektah. I thought you said Premier. Great choice. No, no, no. I love Primo too, but yeah. So like I I booked Static Selektah for the first concert that I promoted. Exactly. Yeah, and like we had the wildest night out in New York. He took me to a club. Me and him were like the only white people in the club. And I I look like I still have a baby face at 33, but think about what I looked like when I was at when I was 21 years old. Can't imagine. Okay, I looked literally like I was 13. I had swoopy long hair. And so the DJ in the club was like, we got static Selektah. Because

like, you know, we're going to VIP because, you know, Statik's and shit. And his friend. And no, he goes, and Justin Bieber in the house. And I was like, I was like, equal parts offended and embarrassed. Yeah. As I was like, Hell yeah. People actually thought I was Justin. Like, because people were drunk and like it was dark. And you know, white kid was static Selektah. Like, it must be Bieber. Like, who, why would there, Why would there just be a concert promoter from University of North Carolina? And so yeah, it was like one of my favorite nights. We stayed out till like 6 a.m., Shut down several spots, and like pretty sure he had sex with this like random girl in a bathroom at one of the bars. Just call him out. What's the part of the shit you're not supposed to say out loud? No, I think, I think I think he'd be proud of it. I think he'd be proud of it, you know? Okay. That was like 15 years ago. That's a crazy story. Yeah. He's changed. It was wild. But yeah, so Statik's, like one of my favorites. But yeah, like who do you go to? I love Jazzy Jeff. Oh.

Go ahead. I'm I'm huge into, like, watching technical DJs, turntablists do that shit because I aspire to do that. But definitely Jazzy Jeff. So like technical, you know, when you say technical, what are they doing? Turntables. Which is You used to have real turntable with a record vinyl, yes. Okay, I just want to make sure because you know, I kind of knew what you were saying. Yeah, but a lot of people probably don't. So I get that. They're like, what do you mean? Everything's so digital now. Exactly. You know? Yeah. But yeah, Jazzy Jeff's one of my favorite A-Track. Thank you for the A-Trak. Thank you for saying that. A-Track. That's the craziest DJ, like technical turntables I've ever seen. Multiple genres. Oh my god, He blows my mind. All types of shit. Miles Medina is another one of my favorites. Oh, I'm not familiar. He was actually one of the winners of like A-Trak's DJ Fool's Yeah, yeah. Fool's Gold competition. I think like right before Kobe COVID hit. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I like watched all all his YouTube videos. Is that how you learned?

No. How did you learn? I'm self-taught. So I YouTube. I know. YouTube University. Okay, yeah. Yeah, Dead-ass YouTube. That's what I'm saying watching YouTube videos. Yeah, watching YouTube videos. It was this DJ named DJ TLM. He had a hella like instructional videos with great breakdowns of like how to count beats, bars, and phrases. So it's like a real like calculated thing because that's how I learned it. But I didn't even know what the sync button was until like years and years after I started DJing. I was like, oh, that's what that's supposed to do. What does it do? So it like sounds BPMs. It syncs the BPM for you. I was like, I have no idea. Makes the songs play at the same speed. Yes. Same speed. See? You gotta talk to me like I am. Like a third grader here. Third grader. I've DJ'd a little bit. So he's the one you gotta break it down. Yeah, he's. I'm sorry, I'm going up here. Yeah, no, no, no. You're you're good. And I just think, you know, for some people out there probably know what it is. He pawns it off as for our audience. Slow it down. Really for him. I love doing that. Yeah, that's great.

Like, just you know, our audience might not know what you're talking about. It really is. Many of us have the notepad. No, I get it. Shit. Clarity. Okay, so so you're a product of YouTube university, you're a graduate. Absolutely. Probably still learning, huh? Do you think you're still learning? Oh, yeah. I'm always a student. Yeah. Always a student. I feel like once you get to a point where you're not practicing, then time back it up. But I I won't necessarily say that. Yeah, I'm gonna say that. There's always room for improvement, especially for me. I'm very like, if I have a set, I'm probably gonna look mad as fuck the whole time, but I'm like locked in. And then afterwards, I'm like, all right, it was cool. Something always could have been better. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's how you stay sharp. Yep. So we kind of crossed the bridge of like, you know, random person in the club wants to request a song, and I guess your response is like trap, you know, go take care of it. Or I'll be like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Okay, I got you. And I'll never play it. And you don't do it. most of the time. All right, shout out to you. Shout out to you. That's a good approach. Um, what about artists, right?

Like aspiring rappers that want to get their shit played, they're coming up to you. What's the in the moment it's just not, it's not the place. It's not the move. I'm working right now. You want to send me, you want to airdrop me some shit while I'm using the laptop that you want to airdrop me some shit. The beep beep beep. All that. And like I I haven't heard it. Right. So what if it's terrible? Yeah. But there have been a few times where somebody's like, I'll slide you some money, slide you. I got a hundred bucks. I was like, $100. I have not personally done that, but I have seen Trap do that. Bro, definitely gave him a hundred dollars, and the song wasn't bad. So I was like, damn, I should have waited. That worked out. It worked out. Would you take a hundred bucks? Hell yeah. I would take a hundred dollars, and I'd be like, all right, y'all, we got yada yada right here in the building. That way they know that shit was not on me. Yeah, bro. asked. They can sniff that out. But the shit is so this is also the problem that I have. Yeah, DJs are so easily accessible.

Like, I literally have an email in my Instagram. I don't like when people DM me, like, yo, can I send you a song? If my email is right there, send me the shit. Send me the shit. And I feel like artists need to get back to sending packs, instrumentals, acapellas, like clean version, dirty version. Cause you never know. Yeah. You really never know. And I am big on playing like my friends' music and my sets and everything. So I'll be like, I hit Will up, Will Hill. Yeah. Like right after he dropped Passenger Princess. I'm like, send me the shit. Now he did. But the fact that he just didn't. Yeah. Initially. But I get it. Like, I don't have a lot going on. Everybody has something going on. Yeah. He's selling candles right now, bro. And I bought one actually. Did you? I bought a candle. You supported Will? Of course. Damn, bro. Should I have candles on the set? Why is that lit? It's usually me supporting our artists, but you know. I support everyone. Just I don't show it. You love bragging about it. So there's the difference. Clout chaser over here. Yeah. Um, damn.

Yeah, I mean, I I just feel like how important do you think DJs are still in in like independent artists like growing their careers? Man, I feel like we're extremely instrumental. Yeah. And why I say that is because for me, I have a radio station that I have once a month on Half Moon BK radio, which is a Brooklyn-based online radio station, but they you know, broadcast wherever. Um and a lot of that time, like I'm playing music that are my friend's songs, and then I put that shit on SoundCloud. And everybody on SoundCloud is like, what is the name of this song? Yada yada. You know, it's it's just the easy way to be put on from them. But even now, like if you think about TikTok and how many DJs are DJing on TikTok, and how many clips you see go viral of people DJing, and sometimes it's a song that you ain't never heard before. Okay, look, that's another outlet right there. I also have a lot of the um just DJs on TikTok live, just spinning. Always that's in all my algorithm, heavy.

I don't know. I'll tap in for a little bit. And also the post that's like uh how well do you know the artist? It's like I just saw like a Jid one, and it's like it plays his hits first, and it's like, how well do you know Jid? Oh, that's cool. and he transitions into the next one. Oh, you know this, okay, this, and it gets deeper and and deeper cuts kind of like it goes from 10 to 100%. Yeah, yeah, because I mean, I've also tapped into a lot of your social media content, and you are obviously just like playing snippets of your mixes, yeah. And it it's just like it's just there. Yeah, you don't know who's gonna tap in. Could be an A and R at a label. Yep. Could be another artist that wants to now like collab with you, could be a dope producer, like Coop. Yeah. Could be tapping into one of your mixes and be like, yo, Cleo, who's this, who's this, you know, artist right here. Yeah. It's right there. People are tripping. They're sleeping on DJs still, bro. I think so. Some up. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm gonna ask you this. So you mentioned like TikToks are going viral from DJs. Are you active? I she's not, bro. She's not bro.

I knew it. I posted it today, though. I posted today. Did you? I did. You could go look. When was the last time you posted before that? Probably like two weeks ago. Cleo. I've been pretty consistent. Okay. Pretty consistent. Let me tell y'all what. So one thing about me, I fucking hate my phone. I hate Instagram. I only get on that shit because I have to. And like if people don't see my face after a while, then they're like, are you okay? Something going on? Like I'm just tired of this shit. Like, I just hate my phone. I'm gonna check in on you next time I don't see you for a couple weeks online. I'm good. I'm gonna have something. But I'm always working. But I just I just think literally what you just described. You are one of those like more tech. I mean, once again, I've seen a lot of DJs in my, you know, in my day. And I feel like you are one of the more technical, like as far as like I think that I am. No, you you definitely are. I mean, just from the scratching side of things, even right. Like that, that's like the showboating almost of DJing, right? It's like the sound, you know, the song selection is is what actually does keep the live like event going on. But like someone like me who's like a fan of DJing, like me seeing static scratch live for me, I was like it.

That was crazy. It was crazy, dude. I was like, this is the craziest shit. Like someone who's just recognized as one of the like, you know, top dogs as far as DJs go, and obviously producers, of course, but like his scratching was just it was next level, it blew my mind. I think I think there's two kinds of DJs. You have the DJs who are just not trying to fuck anything up, play the correct the right songs for the crowd, right? And and just don't get noticed. And then there's the DJs that are trying to get noticed and want to crowd and do cool shit and do transitions and scratch and they're actually creating like a brand for themselves as an entertainer almost by themselves. Yeah, I I agree, but I don't feel like every DJ has to scratch though. No, I think both are both versions are fine. I think I don't think so, especially if you don't have like the the equipment for real, like scratching on a CDJ and scratching on an actual turntable, two different completely different things, or just how so the sound, the feel of it, like everything is is different, which no to the common ear, you wouldn't really hear for real. So nobody really cares, but it's all a matter if the consumer cares.

Yeah, does does just like an average listener even give a fuck about scratching? I don't think so. Hell no, yeah, no, they just in the moment, but we would find it like entertaining. I think oh yeah, I think like if you are looking and you're able to see that's actually what's going on, because there are songs that have like DJ cuts in them, yeah. Yeah, if you're not looking, you would think it's just part of the song, yeah. But that's what I mean about like you should once again, you know. Oh, I'm like the content, we're like the content guys over here. So I'm just always thinking, like, bro, if you showcase your like scratching even more, I just that has to go viral, bro. I don't know why I say that is people's attention spans are like so tiny, it's like get to the point, yeah. But if you were going crazy, just like with like the crazy technical and like almost physical nature to DJing, or the arms are going crazy and like yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't do all that, yeah. Okay, I ain't got all the razzle dazzle in me. Call Peter. Does he call Peter? Oh, absolutely. Okay. I've seen. I've I've seen him, but like I don't want to pretend like I do. That that's like the bread and butter.

Do you want to do that? I do. Okay, so it's just like a you know we gotta get there. It's a levels thing. This is this is what you can do. You don't have to go out and make content. You just said you had a gig last night. Uh-huh. Film it. Record the audio even live. Do you film your whole set? I I do, I don't film a lot of my sets. But sometimes I record all. Get an iPhone, record the audio, record the video. I told y'all I hate my phone. Well, someone likes their phone who's Trap. Maybe does Trap like his phone more than you? Probably not. Maybe a little bit more. Maybe. Because we have one of those little just like, you know, phone stands. Set it up. And then your best two transitions of the night where you even were like, damn, that was hard. I didn't even know that was gonna be hard. Yeah. You just chop that up and that's your content. That's true. Everything, everything is like in the moment for me. So I'm like, I ain't thinking about shit other than hopping up there, making sure all my stuff works so I can go. No, that's that's facts. So that that's the thing. Like I do have a friend. Yeah, and her name is Ryder.

She's like trying to take on the role of being like my art director. So like when she can come, like she'll make the coolest video of me playing. And I'm like, damn, this is fire. Thank you. Yeah. But as far as me doing that shit, I ain't got it in me. So do you go live though in DJ? Why not? That's so easy. Okay, listen. Let me tell you why. This shit is invasive as fuck. What do you mean? Okay, during COVID, I tried to do the live shit. Everyone was doing it and blowing the fuck up. That's on them. I'm you gotta catch me in the moment. I am big on energy. I'm big on feeling people in the crowd. Like I'm playing in my house, and y'all watching me play in my house, and y'all seeing what the fuck is in my house. I have a serious issue with that. Like I don't do it in like your bedroom. No, but even then like people are Weird as fuck. People are so weird. They're gonna recognize the apartment complex. or something? Hell yeah. Honestly, it's a few influencers that I follow, and I know where they live off, live at just off of them posting inside their houses. Yeah.

We need to get you like one of these green screens or something. Nah. You could be DJing on Mars. Maybe that's a valid point too. But all that extra emphasis and shit, I'm just more of a you gotta catch me in a moment. Yeah, and I'm a big energy person. Like I feed off other people. And there's no energy. No, I'm playing in my house. Shit, I'm gonna play some goddamn pilot talk or something. Like them niggas is not trying to hear that shit. So then, like, then you don't practice like that? I practice, but I don't record myself practicing most of the time. Because you just don't think that you'll like look lit enough or something? Or like what's uh stuff? I don't give a fuck about what people feel like you catch me in the moment. Like I'm I feel like it is is is levels. I keep saying it's levels, but I've got to be. That's gonna be the title of this episode. It's levels to this shit. At a certain point, like I don't I don't have to do all that. I I just don't I just want to do it. It feels forceful. Yeah, it feels forceful for me. Man, for me, but I get what you're saying.

I respect what you're saying. Yeah, and I know I'm probably missing a lot of money. Is this potentially is is this episode just like us trying to convince Cleo to post more? content? You just made it that in the last five minutes. Cleo, I really want to interview you. And really, it's just like, let's get her to post more content. Let's Blow her up. Even more. Hey, look, this right here, this the content. Exactly. We are making it right now. We're making you go viral. Thank you In advance. Uh actually, you're welcome. Some people don't understand that this is what this is. Yeah. Some people show up and don't understand that. Oh, wait, this is free content for you. So this is gonna be beneficial. Yep. Yeah. Um, all right. So um I had a few more. Okay, so DJ collectives. Uh-huh. Are you so like you're a part of obviously player 99? Is that correct? Is that a DJ collective basically, right? Yes. So how does that work? How's that dynamic work? Because like we've seen other collectives, like we've had a lot of people on here, whether it's like Key and Jace from 29 and shit, right? And like that obviously saw it. Yeah, saw its demise.

Like, we we've we've talked to a lot of people that like were in these collectives and and ultimately it's fizzled out. So, like, what's the nature? We haven't had anyone that's been like part of a DJ collective per se. What's the like the the the dynamic, I guess? So first I feel like we're more than just a DJ collective, we're more than just DJs. So we have like a photographer, Yvette Glasgow. We got like somebody else like over more of like the management type shit. That's Ephraim. Ephraim lives in New York now. He used to live in LA. So I mean, it's just like there's multiple people that have different hats. So it's not just DJs type shit, but it's more about like curating events for people to have experiences that they wouldn't necessarily have somewhere else in Atlanta. So I feel like we have a very like niche kind of crowd, like smaller, more intimate stuff, but you're gonna have a great time. A great time. I feel like I'm almost going to events, so like Dose is one of my closer like friends in the in the music shit. Yeah, and like he's a fucking just killer DJ.

Yeah, he is. So he he DJ'd our you know, first concert that we did in February. Um, and Trap was there DJing for you know a couple artists. Um I almost like go to events for the DJs here. Oh, yeah. Y'all are like selling tickets, yes, and I feel like the best way to figure out what's going on in Atlanta is to follow uh an Atlanta DJ like and if we're not working like most of the time we're promoting our friends or helping our friends you know at least popping it up on the story yeah because it's always something going on and if it's really this is it it's either something going on multiple times of the night the same night is five different parties or there's not shit going on at all better Atlanta can we schedule better we always say this and it just never works out but really that's the venue shit and I also feel like that's kind of what we lack compared to a lot of other cities We do not have a lot of access to venues what do you mean so like smaller places like Sound Table we lost that music room we lost that um shit traffic ain't really traffic no more so why do you think it is fucking COVID fucks shit up first of all and then like you know how the market is now it's insane interest is stupid crazy yeah even think about a lot of restaurants that closed down because they couldn't afford to keep it shit open okay yeah so it's just like the economics weren't no the math wasn't math and for them too and a lot of the newer spaces it's so hard to get into that shit because they already got their curated list or whatever politics yeah that's all it is it's and it's not even like any pressure for real but it's just like damn if we have more access to more spaces this would not be an issue yeah so should we all three start a spot in the business who got the most money and they count right off I don't know no I have two kids under two years old I have no money in this book I'm broke. God damn. I'm broke.

Money and time. There's nothing. I'm broke in both areas um but he's full of love. Yeah, yeah. That's it. That's all that matters. Yeah. Um, so I feel like coalition DJs is like one of the more like well-known. they're also like a DJ collective, I guess. Yeah. I I think so. I honestly don't know like anybody within that group, but I have I do remember hearing that name, and I know they're like a lot of older DJs if I think. I'm not sure. I might be wrong. No, they've been around 15, 20 years or something. Yeah. And and I feel like, is there beef between like is there a lot of beef in the DJ world? No. Okay. Not to my knowledge. Okay, because I I felt like I had seen some like shit between like coalition and some other. I feel like I vaguely remember, DJ clique. but I'm kind of like, if I don't know what the fuck is going on, I'm not gonna follow. Okay, yeah, you seem like so drama free. Yeah, like I don't mind my business and get the fuck on. Yeah, no, for sure. Love that. yeah. So have you ever considered being a producer or an AR? Yes.

So AR was like my first idea before I even started DJing. Because I feel like I feel like DJs are almost just guaranteed to be good ARs. Yeah. Starting off in high school, that was literally my idea. Like I used to tweet about all the time. I'm gonna be an AR, I'm gonna have my first label, yada yada yada. And it was like, yeah, everybody, that that shit is not for me. No, I know I've never even dabbled in it. But why not? How the fuck am I supposed to get started doing that? No. I don't think It's a great point. Okay, Peter, Peter could talk more on that tip. I I really have no idea. But I remember like he was just explaining the extensive process that he had to go through to like get to that point. And it was just like, yeah. Straight on it. How about production? Production, I have tried, but I didn't give it a good enough try to say I fully tried. Well, like you actually tried to get in like FL Studio or something or logic or whatever. FL. I had a little MIDI controller. And but so it's just like I what didn't work. So I learned how to DJ quickly.

All right. I taught myself pretty quickly. And like producing, it was just like way over my head. Like starting some shit from scratch was difficult. But even then, like the types of laptops that you have, like I couldn't even get a lot of like the stems and shit that my homies had because I had a newer laptop and it was like logic and all that shit. It had a certain criteria to where it would only work on like a 2012 MacBook. Because of the updated versions of the software. She was getting cracked versions. I was trying. I was trying, and I had no more storage on my laptop. And it was like, all right, fuck this. So I just never gave it a try. But Serato, they do have like a production software. I play with it for a minute, but I'm more of a like, okay, I'll try it again and then sit with it for a few years. Okay. So maybe coming up in the future. Maybe in the future. I do think I have a great ear though. Well, yeah. I mean, that that's what I feel like. It's like me looking at DJs that are super successful. I mean, shit, even Dose, right? Like he's he's a producer and an engineer, even, right?

So it almost just seems like, you know, if you want DJing to be the like the thing, yeah, and not compliment it with these other like kind of skill sets, like that's cool. But in my mind, it's like if you are looking to diversify, it feels like those two producer and AR are almost just like no brainers, right? It's like especially the access that you have to artists and knowing which artists are like popping and shit. You could just start, you know, you want me to play your song? Yeah. I don't disagree with the thing you're saying. Because I get on this beat. Yeah, yeah. Because I also want you, yeah, because I also want you to maybe rethink producer, right? Like fuck being an FL. You could sit back on the goddamn couch and know that your ear can guide whoever is, you know. I mean, you don't have to be like on the fucking keyboard, like plugging in the drums and you know, doing the actual like. technical. You need someone to do that though. For sure. But like everyone's collaborating with other producers these days. You could be the type requires time. Yeah, exactly. So that's what I mean. That I don't have a lot of. Yeah.

I know you're I've I've extended myself to stick to my little routine. So that's the only thing. No, But I do, I I do 1000% agree with you. No, for sure. So do you feel like you've seen a um like an obvious shift in the type of music that people are fucking with? No. No. I don't think so. I feel well, okay. I went to a um a party after my gig last night, and these girls, their names are Greedy Girls, they're DJs. Okay, I don't know. Um, I feel like they maybe started within like the last two years, but they're black girls and they play a lot of techno. But it's like the shit that they mix into the techno, you wouldn't even imagine that they would do that. So it's very interesting. So I I wouldn't necessarily say that I see that there's a shift because I just wasn't going to those types of things. So I feel like it was already there. I just was doing my own shit, you know. Yeah. But do you have like a very like specific type of like crowd or listener that likes your shit? Yeah, hip hop bass, RB, yeah, I'm a piano, dancing type shit.

But I do, I do when I have the opportunity to, I do go left a little bit more because that's really what my pocket is. So what's left for you? Left, like some lucky, like some some like super, I don't even know what the fuck you would call that alternative rap. Yeah, yeah. All rap. Which like Atlanta's does it have a big scene for that? I feel like so. I won't, I don't even know if I could like speak to that for real because I feel like it's younger now. Yeah. Like the one place where I used to be able to get a lot of that shit off at was like Reverie years and years ago. That was my first residency. Oh really? Cool. Yeah, like 2017, I think to 2019. Okay. Yeah. So there I was able to do whatever I wanted. Who is which is now called Cry Baby? Yeah, I think it's a karaoke bar or something. I haven't been there. I got rid of the VR? They they, like, did a complete renovation on the inside. The DJ booth looks crazy. I haven't been there though. Because we were supposed to do a cipher there, and I actually meant to like hit the guy back up. They actually have a crazy DJ booth now, which is could be good for a cipher still.

But it looked cool. The VR was kind of a vibe though. No one played it though. I liked it. I did too. I liked it. It seems like such unnecessary costs into the company. Yeah. It's like you know, she's talking about like companies just going out of business because it's a nightclub. It's not a VR, but Reverie always popping though. For sure. Still. It's always popping. It's almost like two found now. Too many people know about it. Yeah. So I wonder if that's why they changed the aesthetic. So what's the move as far as like you're clearly one of the most well-known DJs, I would say, in Atlanta. I would say, but but like is the plan to scale to be like what getting gigs in like New York, LA, You know, like what's the what's the what's the vision? here? I want to like be full time with DJing And traveling around the world. Like my ultimate goal, I want to get to London. I want to be there. I want that to be my base. So I feel like the music scene out there is just insane. I love Europe. Do you want to DJ for an artist? Or do you want to just be a DJ? Um I've okay. So I've dabbled with that.

I it depends on who the artist is. So like Will hit me up and he was like, yo, would you be my DJ? But we ain't really had nothing, you know, going yet for say. That was literally a conversation within a few weeks ago. But I have DJ'd for an artist before. That's actually how I got started. One of my homies, his name is Jay Newton. Oh, yeah. We know Jay. Yeah. Yeah. So we went to Kennesaw together. Okay. He needed a DJ. And I was always going with him to his shows because I just love music and he was my friend. Like he was real tight. So I was like, okay. Shit. That's what really inspired me to like pick up YouTube, figure out what's the cheapest way to start. And I just kind of ran with that. And from him, people saw me playing his sets, and it was like, do you play parties? And then from there, it just kind of like blossomed. And I feel like we kind of had such a sweet spot with the period of time that you know we kind of came about. So like uh Ben Riley was in abstract media. And like that was my first introduction to them. And then after that, it was just a lot of places to see people play and hear people. Um, because music room, like they had a lot of shit going on during A3C, and they had like two floors.

And I think I don't know if I met Kenny there. I think I met Kenny. No, I met Kenny Mason at um fuck Masquerade. And we all did a show there. And then I mean uh Wiley from Atlanta, met him too. So I feel like we all kind of linked up at the the same time. It seems like such a different type of DJing, though, because I love all those artists. I love all those artists, by the way. Great fucking music. Yeah, for that you'd great music. You do have to have a set list that is prepared and been rehearsed, and you are playing these songs in a row. And you know, you don't get to maybe do your experimentation. as much. I did. Okay, I experimented so much. How so? How can you do that? Okay, Jay, we're going into this song. No, no, no. No, no, let me rephrase. Okay. So, like at a show, there's a break in between each artist. Within that break, it's like, okay, I got five minutes to get off something. So that was my like challenge. So she still didn't even like DJ for the artist, but that little advertisement is. You still looked for that five minutes of being able to do her own.

If they're like, all right, y'all. Thank you. My name is Wiley from Atlanta. Up next, we got Jay Newton. He walks to the back. What they what am I supposed to play? You're supposed to go crazy. Okay. I know. No, exactly. I can see why you like it. Yeah. I mean, I definitely it's like you got a set amount of time, and then you look around the corner, all right. Yeah. You're the main event for five minutes. Yeah, it's fun. It was fun. It was a lot of fun. If you could DJ for any artist in the world, though, like be their touring DJ, who would it be? The pressure. Yeah. That's a hard question. Because you can manifest this shit right now. Like you could be their touring DJ if they see this clip. Like, no pressure though. Uh, no pressure. It feels like a lot of pressure. It's not that much. Damn. Just your whole future as an artist's DJ is right is riding on this answer. But I'm not even gonna give you an answer because I really don't know. The hell? I don't know. Clear to you. And then I also feel like once you DJ for artists, you are you're locked in with them. Like, let's say somebody hit me up and they tell me they want me to come to London or some shit.

I can't do that because I'm on tour. Yeah. So that that's the other side of it. Yeah. Yeah. So it's true. Damn. But like then, do you feel like you need to be like, you know, so this is my ignorance to the DJ scene global, even, right? So, like, you know, DJs that are playing gigs worldwide, different cities, et cetera. Like, are they also producers or also like artist DJs, kind of like the Metro Boomin's of the world? Or like no. Okay, so there are just DJs, like pure DJs. They're just playing the artist's music. Yeah. They might play like a 10 minute set before the artist comes out to like warm the crowd up. Yeah. But a lot of the times, like they're pre, you know, pre-made. So they know what songs to tell the artist to come out to, you know? So I I just feel like since I'm just such a person that just has to feel the energy of the people, it's kind of like that feels a little forceful, but not not in like a negative way, but it's just like preparation. No, but I mean for what you want to do.

Uh-huh. For what what I want to do? Exactly. So, like, you do you see I mean like so, you know, London booking you. Uh huh. Right? Let's say this this London club wants to book you. Like, how do you get to that point? Like, seriously, like connections. Okay. I don't necessarily feel like it has to be through an artist. Like the internet shit. People go viral all the time. Posting more than one TikTok and two weeks. yeah, yeah. And then, and then look. Got her. ass. Yeah, you did. You did. I ain't got shit. to say. Put my foot in my mouth. Nice. Yes. But yes, valid point. Yeah. Off of Who Sees You. Yeah. And your brand as a DJ. Yeah. Yeah. Marketing yourself. Which the brand is good. The brand is there. Like, once again, I mean, just you know, your aesthetic and obviously the the like song selection and like how you're carrying yourself on, you know, on stage or like on in booth, whatever the like terminology is for you know, for DJs. On stage still applies. Yeah, and then and then even online, obviously, even though you know, we could post a little more, you know.

But like, you know, when you do post, like it it feels like that's all put together pretty well. Yeah, but I I was just curious as to yeah, how you even, you know, because the DJs that I know are also like producing maybe their own original music. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I guess like maybe that's not the only way to do it. Or have labels or no, I mean you don't have to do that. Yeah, you can just be a DJ. Hell yeah. That's fire. Well, Cleo, we've entered a uh final segment of the podcast. Oh shit. Final Segment. Yes. I know, Henry. Is this it? This is it. Oh no, what is it? How big my eyes got? I'm just kidding. Yeah, don't be scared. This is the rapid fire rampage. Why do you gotta do that, bro? The deep voice? Don't be don't be scared. I was trying it. Proceeds to do it in a scary ass voice. Anyway, this is a three-part segment, three very short parts. It's gonna be fun. I'll explain them as we go. The first part is just some short answer questions. Oh God. Start off easy. Okay. Cleo Trapper.

Yeah. Why are turtles green? Because that's how God wanted them to be. Facts. Can't argue with God, Henry. We're off to a great start. Fire. What are your three favorite set openers right now? Set openers. First song of the night. Well, you see, because I don't pre-make my sets, it can't answer that. Ooh. Can't do that. Loophole. Do you remember the last three songs you've started your Sets with? Why are we doing this? Um, I think last night. Yeah, last night I was playing. Why am I talking to this lady? Yeah, last night. I was just following you. First song was Delirious, Vistoso Bosses because it was a girl's party. It was for women's history month or whatever the fuck. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. I think it was day. It was a day party. Oh it's day, excuse me. party. Was it a day party or a day? it was a day party. I'm over here like it's a day party, but technically, like my set was 8 to 9, So is that nighttime?

Headliner things. Night time. Headliner things. Um okay. Speaking of girls, uh huh. You've just been paid 100,000. Oh, fuck. Just wait though. You're not gonna like where it goes from there. I get so happy. Okay. To play a 13 year old girl's birthday. I'ma do it. What are the first three songs you play there? You have no information. No information. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god, oh my god. You have their age and that they're girls. But these children are so grown now. But it depends on how grown that child is. Yeah. 13-year-old, the first song that I'm gonna play. Like, does she like Megan Thee Stallion? She might not. She might not. She might be. She might like Freddie Gibbs. I'm just gonna go Drake, biggest song in the world. Shake that ass, bitch. Hand on your knees. Rich baby daddy. ass for me. Clean version. Shake that. Shake that. For me. Yeah. Shake that. for me. That's great. Okay, moving on. What are the best and worst things about the music industry? Oh god. The best and worst things.

The best. is easy to see. Well, not easy. The best things, is rewarding at a certain point when people respect you for what you do and what you create. Yeah. Especially if it's something that's not typical and people fuck with you for that. The worst thing is the politics of this shit. Because it could be one person that don't fuck with you, and they fuck your whole brand up. Just off of we're not gonna fuck with her, so let's spread that around. But that's not gonna happen to me because I'm a child of God and I'm chosen. But so you know people that's happened to, I guess. No, not really. So you're like a DJ blacklist? No. Not well, mm. I don't know. I don't know. Is this a big fear of yours? No, not for me. I I feel like look, I do right by people, I mind my business, stay out the drama. Ain't shit finna happen to me.

Yeah, I like that. Like that a lot. That's like that's how we operate too. Yeah. And it's been nothing but love. It's so that's why every time people are like, the music industry's so shady. I almost like don't, and I know I'm not like making music, but at the same time, we're still like in, you know, same thing with you. You're in the like vortex, and it's like we just the people that clearly get what we got going on, and like we do right by them, like they end up doing right by us for the most part. So it's just I do think there are evil people in the world though who just have it out for certain people, but I have not like completely witnessed that with my own eyes or like seen that happen. Yeah, but it's also like you uh, you know, you attract what you what's the put out what you put out to an extent, because I still feel like your vibe attracts your tribe or some shit. What is the fucking saying? I think that's it. That's a good one. Like, you know, the devil was one of the God's disciples, Jesus' disciples. Um he was part of the tribe. I haven't read that book in a while. I ain't either, but I haven't. that was right here. They're right here in the plan. It's been a while since I read that chapter. Um, Cleo, what are the last three DMs that you sent?

Don't recall. Probably a repost of me playing last night. Three of them. Technically, that's a DM. She's the she's coming, she's coming with the loopholes, bro. I'm dead ass. Like, I don't. She doesn't go on her phone either. I literally don't. Yeah. The list is that's fair, especially in the requests that just say you're missing bags. Email me. I know, but people don't. That's their problem. What do you check your email on? Laptop? My phone. I check my email every five minutes. Oh, so she is on her. I'm on my phone checking the email. Email people. But messages. Yeah, feed, feeds for you pages. Do not disturb. Get out of here. Okay, last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? Oh. Probably fuck. Did that perfectly. That was great. That's insanely accurate. Exactly. Like, what who's it again that said that? I don't even know. Some white girl. Some child star. Yeah, I forget who's that. I don't Think about it.

Probably fuck? Okay, moving on. This is the this or that portion. All right. It's gonna be great. I'm gonna give you two choices. Pick one. I think you kind of hinted at this earlier, but let's get it in the clear. Serato or tractor? Serato. Synced transition or manual transition. Hip hop or RB. Just because traps in my name. Uh hip hop. Great beat or great lyrics. Great beat. Ice Spice or sexy red? Sexy red. Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network? Nickelodeon. Discover new artists or binge your favorites. Discover new artists. And finally become a full-time rapper or leave the music industry. Leave. Damn. You know what? I was praying for a Cleo Trapper mixture. You have a great rap name already, too. Thank you. It could work as a rap name. You know what? I was supposed to be a rapper. Really? Deadass in like elementary school. That's what I said I was gonna do. So it was so it was rapper AR, and then yeah.

No, we went through phases. Okay. Rapper. Yeah. A R. Singer. Singer. No, no, really? Deadass. Oh shit. Damn. I got some pipes on it. Okay. You could like pull me out right now if you wanted to. Listen. We got that one more time, It's out there? Maybe. Is it under Cleo Trapper? I don't know. Oh shit. We're going to ask you after this. For answers. I don't know. Cryptic. God. The final part is the word association. I'm gonna say one word. You just give me the first word that you think of. Oh god. Off the top of your head. Pressure. Alright. Yep. No thinking required. Just feeling like you do so well. Starting with trap. Music. Atlanta. Georgia. Cash App. Dollar sign. Love. Heart. Japan. Korea. Chardonnay. Pinot Grigio. I like how her answers are like, no, fuck that.

This. Yeah, the yeah. Pogo stick. Don't know nothing about that. Barbecue. Ribs. Auto tune. T-Pain. Hot tub. Bubble bath. Junk. Trash. Flower. Child. Lil. Baby. Cleo. Trapper. Let's go. This has been your favorite DJ Cleo Trapper. As always, please like, comment, and subscribe if you fuck with this interview. We are here each and every week. Follow us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcast. Leave us a five star review. If you're not leaving us five stars, get the fuck on. Peace. Until next week, Henry, What are we doing. Bye. Get out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Appreciate you. Thank you.