Money Mu Interview: Blowing Up Off Old Music | Are Big Features Worth It?

How much luck do you feel like is involved in like all this music shit? I don't even believe in luck. Why not? I just think if you really get your 100% for real, like your 100%, I think you'll receive some. That's what I believe. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the one more time podcast. Looking forward to this one. I'm playback Ben here with my co-host Henry with a three, aka the trap jack black. Trap Jack Black. Who do we have over here in the love seat today, my friend? Welcoming in on our 98th interview, coming in on that century mark. Very impressive. I'm proud of us. Fresh out the pen. Welcome home. Foogiano. Bro. No, I said it was the other guy that used to be signed with AE. Oh, it's not foo. It's not foo. It's Moo. It's money moo. A free food though. Free food though.

for sure. Absolutely. Oh god. We got money moo in the motherfucking house, though. Yes, sir. Believe, believe, believe. Thanks for coming, man. For sure, for sure. So I ball like a free agent. I hop straight out my deal. How fella say he authentic, can't even keep it real. Coming out swinging, Ben. damn. Who we talking about right there, my guy? Shit, man. Really just a bar, you feel me? But you know, it really just a bar. For anybody who got down, you know what I'm saying, not keeping it 1000, if they ain't keeping it authentic, you feel me? Heard that? Man, I love that media trained response. No, because I I first became familiar with you during your AE days, right? Authentic Empire. I was working with GA, aka Gabriel Averitt, a close friend of the podcast, close friend of Henry's. And yeah, I met you, you know, during that time in your life. And, you know, I just like heard that bar, and I was like, you know?

No, yeah. I I took it a certain way. I mean, I'm sure others, others might have as well. I gotta ask you this. I feel like you handled the split, if you will, in my mind, very amicably, right? Even right now when I'm trying to bait you into, you know, speaking on the bar that in my mind is completely directed at our friend Boom Man. Um, but you know, Euro Got It did not take He was a little more explicit. He didn't take such a similar approach as you did when it came to parting ways with AE. I mean, for me, bro, I found that shit hilarious. Like, did were you watching that unfold with Euro? and- His skits and shit? I mean, yeah, this shit was crazy. You know, of course I'm watching it. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? I told both of them, like, man, y'all need to get that right. But yeah, far like just, you know, I don't dwell on stuff, you feel me? I ain't gonna just lie, like everything was just all 1,000 when I walked away. You know what I'm saying?

That's clear, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, did it was I took the good with the bad. You feel me? Like, it were good things that came from it. It was certain shit I ain't like the way it was handled. We spoke on all this shit, everything is understood, you know what I'm saying? Like I say, it ain't like everything which is good, but I just don't dwell on shit like that. I gotta keep moving, you feel me? Like at the end of the day. I love that. I'm bigger than I'm the biggest one with this shit. I ain't worried about no. It was a stepping stone for me. You feel me? So salute. Yeah, you fulfilled your contract obligations for sure. On to the next. Exactly. Yeah, and and I think that, you know, it's very mature of you, to be honest. And it was, it was kind of funny, like, you know, me doing my research, a lot of the interviews and or you know, stuff about you on the internet was during that time, right? Yeah.

So it is kind of just interesting knowing how it, yeah, I ain't did an interview in a minute. You know, exactly. Yeah. So we're excited to have you on and kind of, you know, talk to you about the evolution of Moo, right? But it was just kind of trippy, like, it's like watching a movie when you know how it's gonna end. Right? You're you're like, you're like hearing it, you're like, that's not how it's gonna still play out here, you know? So that was just kind of interesting. got the spoilers, yeah. But so is that just in your nature to not really like have you ever blown up at a situation though? I mean, you feel me? When it comes to like this type of business, nah, I won't say I have really like not really in real life situations for sure. You feel me? It'll been times when I know, like, we'll think about the uh consequences later, you feel me? But like when it comes to something like this, not really that the first time, like for one, the AE situation is the only thing I've ever did. Feel me, when it comes to music.

I ain't never did nothing else with anybody. That's the first time I ever partnered myself with anybody, you know what I'm saying? So it's like all that shit was new for me, you feel me? The whole thing, sign a contract, all that, you know what I'm saying? So it was definitely a learning experience. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So I mean, you know, you clearly look at it as a stepping stone. So, like what would you say that you took away most, right, from that step in your career? Um, I took away like it showed me, you know what I'm saying, a lot of new things, like as far as like more exposure. Um I seen stuff more hands on. I seen how the radio really worked versus how I thought it was working, you know what I'm saying? Um so what's the difference between what you thought it was and versus how it works? Because we're just like trying to give you a lot of people. You gotta pay. There you go. You heard radio shit is pay to play, right? These DJs gotta eat It costs, like the radio cost, but yeah, but like, and um just you know, the whole experience of just going from one level to the next level, show price going up, um, you know, all that type of stuff.

So definitely I feel like um it was just a lot of learning experience, and then too, even how a contract does work. Um, you know what I'm saying? Understanding the contract, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. I definitely that's the biggest thing I learned from it. You feel me? Get a lawyer for sure, a real one. Don't penny pinch, like get you real entertainment lawyer who really know how that shit goes. Not the guy with the like the big pants and the memes. And don't let uh day lawyer do your shit neither. That ain't what I did, but still though, don't don't do that neither. Like, get you a real deal lawyer if you can. You know, sometimes this shit you might not have nothing. These folks don't be having nothing, they just do what they can to get out of the situation they're in at the time. You feel me? So yeah, it's one of those things where clearly you haven't made it yet when you're getting into these, maybe like you know, entry level deals, right? Like your first deals when you're you know, first signing a pub deal or first signing a label deal, whatever the case may be. So it's like, yeah, should I spend the four figures, five figures on the lawyer when I don't have shit right now?

Right, or am I going to the, you know. You can't. Yeah. You just absolutely can't do it. Yeah, true. Right. Like shit. Yeah, exactly. Even if you, you know, have the ability to, though, is it, you know, shit, someone's saying they can do it for a few hundred or like or a percentage of this or that. You know what I mean? So like those are definitely tough situations. Did you did you talk to Euro about like how he was handling everything, like during it? We spoke one time throughout all that shit. Like, we chopped it up. Well, what was he saying about like maybe like why he was um shit, you know, really. I ain't asking why. I mean, okay, you know, clearly he was upset type shit. You know what I'm saying? But I had just told him, like, bro, I don't think you should be taking it that way. I was like, bro, I think you are good artist, you talented, like focus on the music, bro. If anything, talk about it in the music. That's what I do, bro.

Yeah, I don't get to just, I'm not gonna sit here and just be talking about another nigga like that. You feel me? Like another man like that. But at the same time, you can communicate and you know, express it through the music, you know what I'm saying? So I mean, hence the bar that I dropped at the beginning of the year. For sure, you know what I'm saying? For sure. It's like all the time he uh spent, you know, working on the skits and the content, it could have been, you know, skits promoting his music, maybe. Right. Oh, yeah. Well, back to that though. But yeah, he was just saying, like, yeah. I mean, I was just saying, like, yeah, bro, you should focus on the music. And plus, at that time, I'm attached to the brand. So at the same time, too, I don't want to. It's a conflict. yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, cause do I agree with everything they were doing? No, you feel me? But at the end of the day, I mean, I'm here for one reason. I'm that's all I was really concerned with. I wasn't really concerned with what, you know what I'm saying? Whatever else they doing with whoever else y'all doing it with. Y'all doing what y'all doing and his situation was a little different too because he was there like from the jump right yeah for sure. he was the first artist that they were like seriously pushing you know putting bags behind and I think him and Boom had a that's pretty you know tight knit. it's deeper than me like right you know what I'm saying like that's something they had to figure out. yeah type shit you know what I'm saying? I get that yeah so the the thing that's most remarkable about your story and I know you're probably sick of talking about it but we got to at least touch on it is the fact that you had a song hidden that was clearly people were liking it when you put it out around 2017.

I think you've talked about the fact that like anytime you'd go to a new place or you know show it to a new person like they were fucking with the song yeah so like you you clearly were getting positive feedback to understand that like hey I kind of have something um but you know three years later you really revived the record with the remix with Moneybagg Yo and Foo right and and for me I just think that like shout out to you for sticking with that shit I think it goes hand in hand with you know your whole believe brand right it's like you believed in that song you believed in yourself to keep pushing it and like just want to give you your flowers for like clearly sticking with that to the point of it's arguably changed the trajectory of your career in my mind right like I'm not saying you wouldn't have continued brick by brick to build but like that record clearly has like been a very foundational moment for you. And the fact that you stuck with it as opposed to just giving up on it like artists do after a few weeks, a month, whatever the case may be. Artists need to hear this for real, because that is a major, major gem. I see people working on an album for a year, promote it for like three weeks, you know, and then they're not talking about the album anymore.

I'm like, man, people are like, well, it didn't do the numbers I wanted. I'm like, the game just started, right? Like, it's out now. No For sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, you mentioned that like you feel strongly that that kind of record is timeless, right? Like, it's something that, you know, several years from now, 10 years from now, can still have its place in the music scene, right? Like in the culture. How did you know that? Yeah, or like, what do you think makes a timeless record? I guess would be my question. Really, man, though, I can't really say what makes a timeless record all the way, but I'll say how I knew that that song was a timeless record was because the people, like the streets was telling me. Just how you said in 2017, yeah, it didn't just go huge. But man, if every single time I go anywhere, any day, somebody's coming to me about one certain specific thing, I'm dropping projects, I'm dropping all kind of other music, but folks still talking about now. You know, oh, that song has to get heard by it, might have got heard by 100,000 people, 100,000 people when it comes to uh that's like let's say one stream, 100,000 streams.

That's nothing. Feel me? Like it's a lot, but it's nothing when it's compared to like the whole world or even just the US. Like, so it's like, okay, my city rocking with it, but nobody else in the whole country even knows this song exists. I'm like, when they hear this song, they gonna know it's hard like that. You know what I'm saying? They gonna know. So that's just kind of how I was thinking about it. I'm like, so every time I go somewhere, they gonna have to hear it. That's an interesting argument for, you know, some people these days say that the in-person stuff isn't as important when we have the internet and stuff like that. But it sounds like you still think. And I ain't gonna lie. No, I will hit on that too, though, because it's like the the game is constantly changing. I feel like the game different from now from just 2017. Yeah, it's different. Oh, definitely. Like for sure. So it's like a lot of stuff that I was doing then, I'm not even doing that now. You know what I'm saying? The things that was telling me this song going, I was, bro, I going to open mics, you know what I'm saying? I was doing all kind of stuff.

Like I had never received a penny from no music at that time. So it was like different type of ways that I was going about. Now I gotta use different tactics to find out, like, oh, this song or the versus this song. So how do you know now? Um, it got a lot more to do with like I gauge from social media. Yep. You know what I'm saying? I still in person with it. I go to the clubs, I push up on the DJs, I play, I look at real life reactions without like you ain't gotta say, oh, I'm in the club, money moving, you know, in Atlanta. as soon as you tell them they in here, oh, they don't even want to dance. We everybody cooling, you know. They don't care about nobody, like everybody a superstar type shit. But so I just chill, you know what I'm saying? If I'm in the street club, throw a little bread with it, but just see how it is, you know, and I just go off that. Then when you drop it, of course, the analytics too. Yeah. But I ain't just geek on analytics, but the game is though. So it's like, yeah.

If you want to deal these days, definitely your numbers gotta be. They don't understand it. Yeah. It ain't no numbers. Them them deal, them labels, all that for all y'all trunk. They don't understand. That's all they understand is data. Yes. Numbers. They don't know what's going on in the streets. They don't know who up next in the streets if it ain't no data. Yeah. The whole city could know, like, oh, shouting next up. Blah, blah, blah. But if his numbers ain't, they ain't gonna. That's what I was going through with that same exact song. Yeah. I went to labels in 2017. They were like, what is this? I sat with L.A. Reid. I flew the Interscope. I thought I was finna get signed in. You feel me? Like, no. And with no data. They like, I don't get it. They got phone calls to hey, y'all need to see about, bro. Call them in there. But they don't know why they saying that because they not in the streets. And you feel me? Like them labels. You know what I'm saying? Damn. Yeah.

That's crazy. Wait, but so I I want to go back. So when you're in the club, you think that if they announce the classic, like money moo in the motherfucking house, like, you know, blah, blah, blah. Like, everyone doesn't like that. No, it ain't like that. They don't like it, but it's just like when sometimes when I just want to hear how the song is, when I want to see the reaction, I don't want it to be persuaded by nothing. no bias. Yeah. I just want the song to come on, and so I could just see the true reaction. Yeah. Some people dancing Is they moving? is it throwing the vibe off? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, versus like, oh, he's here. Let's turn up because he's here. You know what I'm saying? At that point, they looking at the artist, see what they gonna do. Like, oh, you ain't hear this is yo, what going on? Like, nah, I'm trying to see the real reactions to it. You know what I'm saying? So you just slip it in the middle of the set. Slip it in or slide it in or real quick. Yeah, so it almost like it almost like distracts them from even listening to the song. Cause then they just look at whatever it is that you're they continue doing what they partying, right?

Yeah. They doing what they doing. We trying to see is this gonna keep the party vibing? Is it gonna turn the party up? Is people gonna say, hey, who this is? Is they gonna go to the booth? You know what I'm saying? Or are people just gonna like go to the bathroom? Or is people get another drink? Not gonna vibe ahead, nothing. They ain't vibing with it. Right. You know what I'm saying? You want to know. Yeah, is is Atlanta a tough market? Like I'm not a big club guy, admittedly, but is it a is it a tough thing where like if a new song comes on that they haven't heard, are they pretty like standoffish and yes. Okay. For sure. So how many times has your song gotten played and like the vibe was killed? Like in my life? Like just yeah. Like in my life, like, not say the vibe was killed, but just coming up, bro. You know how many times I can't even tell you how many times I performed and nobody gave a fuck about what I was doing. You feel me? Like they did not care. The same shit hitting.

Like it'll be always somebody like gonna tell you, bro, that shit hard. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's for that. I'm here for the one, two, three. I don't care for the people that is gonna rock with me when I leave out. I only came for that to get a couple more folks to fuck with money, move and fuck with his music. Everybody else who ain't vibing, if they is or not, I don't care. You know what I'm saying? Cause I know my shit hard. Yeah. Fast forward a couple years later, that motherfucker rocking. You feel me? All those people that weren't rocking are rocking now. Oh, yeah, bro, I remember you from Voodoo. I was fucking with that here. You wasn't fucking with me. You wasn't fucking with me, bro. I remember, but I appreciate the love though. I know how it goes bro. It's Atlanta, it's uh like a million rappers, bro. Like for real, bro. It's true. Everybody, you be like, it's damn near cliche to say you rap. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like I mean, I'm thinking about the project. Ben's working on his debut EP. Yeah, that had me.

Everybody got a project. I actually just got you on to ask you, like, I mean, you wanna hook me up with a feature, bro? Or like we can make it work. we can make it that. Yeah. You don't want to do that, bro. I'm gonna shut that down. Oh my god. I'm taking his word. No, for yeah. Yeah, it's probably good advice. Um, for me, I I'm very I'm interested now to like what what is that psychology around like people almost need for someone else to validate it then for you know, it's almost like the thing where a lot of people didn't support what we were doing, even with the pod, right? Until we started getting whoever on and they saw the motion, and oh, this person follows you now. And it's like, you know, it's like this weird fucking cloudy shit Hype beastie. Yeah, where it's like people only rock with you if they see other people It's Monkey see monkey do, man. That's how it is, bro. Like, for real. That's just how this game is. Yeah, yeah.

It's like they want to see other people then, especially Atlanta too. That's another thing. But like, Atlanta is like one of the greatest cities when it comes to to me, if not the greatest city when it comes to this rap, this hip hop. But it's like, bro, you gotta go, you gotta get everybody else rocking with it down there before they start rocking with you here. Feel me? It's so true, man. I I feel like we're not a city that really there's other cities that I feel like um support independent artists more, right? Where they almost want to find the new thing, right? They want to discover that next artist. I feel like Atlanta only wants to rock with the shit that's already got the motion. Yeah, it's like they not impressed. Feel me? It's like you it's too, it's just like, man, the average person is having more emotion than the rappers out here. Like they not impressed.

You know what I'm saying? You gotta really do something to get some. I had to really get my motion up. It was folks, it was like, if you know, you know with me at first, but I had to go get some more. Okay, now I'm getting millions of views. Oh, now I'm getting booked. Now they they rocking. You feel me? But it's like they just not impressed, bro. Our our rappers is future, Young Thug, Lil Baby, 2 Chainz, just all these big huge rappers, a 21 Savage, like these is the rappers from our city. So it's like versus these other cities where they can name it's only been a couple folks, you know. Yeah, so they know all the underground people at that point, because there's only a few superstars. But I will say though, I think this the place to be though for it. Like if you're trying to get some motion, as you can see, we have a millions of folks moving to the city, like, but it is a place where you can get that motion though. But y'all can feel free to stop moving here anytime too. Like, you know, we get our we got enough traffic.

But that traffic, boy. Yeah, but that traffic is over with. Feel free to go to Florida, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, go, yeah, go to Miami. Charlotte is nice. So you, you know, you talked about like seriously working the record, right? You know, working the hitting record. For those that are out there, like, what are some actual things you were doing? So it sounds like you were, you know, going the radio route, you know, paying to play. That was like clearly one tactic that you, you know, utilized. But like, what were you at? You know what I mean? Like, we want to give people game that are these independent artists trying to get motion, right? Or trying to have a record move. You know, clearly the music's gotta be good. So, like, A, get some fucking second opinions out there on your songs, first of all. But you know, once you kind of know that you have something on your hands as far as a good song that can make some noise, like what were you actually doing? Um, well, before I got with AE, what I was doing with the song was pure, like mostly leg work. You feel me?

Like, I'm going to different clubs, different venue, anything, event, like it didn't even have to be nobody rapping. It's just place an event where people in the industry going, anything like that. I'm going there. I'm pushing up on every DJ. I don't care where I go, if it's at the club, if it's at somebody baby shower. I'm pushing pushing up on a DJ if it's a DJ in there. I'm hey, I'm Money Moo, bro. This was going. This is the hardest shit. You need to hear this. Like, I'm going around like that. Anytime I get any money, like, I'm using my money for promo. I don't care if the promo was anywhere from $75 all the way to a whatever, $1,000 or whatever you're spending. But like, that's what I'm I'm doing. Little things, put it here on, say, cheese, uh, dirty glove bastard, whatever. Like do the one more time podcast. You feel me? You feel me? I'm doing, I'm going to interviews, I'm going to, I'm just doing stuff like that. Then when it comes, when you collab with something like that, because even like with AE, boom, man, he reached out.

Like, why did he reach out? Cause the song was doing a little something anyway, just off our own momentum. You feel me? Boom. He reached out. Now with that, that's when it come in the radio. I already went to the radio and locked in with like my dog, Stewie Rock and Fly Guy DC, Rory Simmons. Um, I pushed up Greg Street, all them. I met all of them with that same record before the remix. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't paying nothing though. I mean, it's a difference. Like, you're not gonna be on rotation in the radio like that. So that's you worry about that when you have the funds for that. I wanna advise somebody. If you don't got the funds for that, man, you need to worry about just getting the record hotter to the point where somebody else is gonna bring them funds and do what they need to do. You know what I'm saying? But how much does it actually how much does it actually cost to get on the radio? Like to be in rotation on the radio? Rotation.

Like to be on a rotation in the radio, I'ma say like at least six figures, like at least a hundred thousand. Shit. Damn. That's what I'ma say. Like if somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but like some folk will probably even tell you 200,000, bro. Like to be in that radio, like just going crazy, crazy. Like on a level of like, feel me, probably like, I don't want to say nobody's name, cause I don't know, but like to be on that radio extremely hard, oh, it's probably like a 200,000. I know that hitting probably at least was about a hundred thousand. How much it was on the radio? FM or XM or both. Shit. I I don't know, really. Yeah. I don't know. But I'm just talking about like to the point where like that radio in your car, like, yeah, it's probably both, but I'm talking about like your mama and them calling you, yeah. I hear you on the radio. Like, it's just on the radio. You feel me? Like, yeah.

That shit cost six figures. So did you get that call? Yeah. How good did that feel? For sure, man. That felt, that was like making it feel more real. Mm-hmm. Like when it, I'm like, man, this shit really going up. Like, when they getting to calling me, like, oh yeah, my friends, they just called me. They said your song was here or here. Or like, I was at the Hawks game one time, and it's just start playing in the Hawks game. I'm like, damn, shit going up. You feel me? Like, or even boy, at the Super Bowl when uh Tampa Bay won the Super Bowl, but they in the locker room. Boom. I'm like, oh yeah, I remember that. This shit going up. That's crazy. For sure. Yeah, I mean, there were so many, like the song went absolutely bananas on the internet. I mean, what what was was it the Bucks Super Bowl celebration clip? Or were there others that like meant more to you to see, right? Like, because I think Boosie played it. Yeah. Right. Like a lot of people. A bunch of, you know, just, you know, big time celebrities were posting it on IG stories, listening to it, you know, whatever, right?

Like, there was support of the record amongst like, you know, like high-level celebrities on the internet. But what was the like, I don't know, the most personal one for you? Really, just the most personal one. Um to me, is like really before even the remix and stuff. Like the first time when it got played on the radio, it was by like for uh Fly Guy DC and Ferrari Simmons. Mm-hmm. And I was in the club, I was in 1145. Mm-hmm. And um, like, bro, I had been pushing, hitting. This is 2017. I was pushing it already for six months. This probably like seventh, eighth month. I've been going to the clubs at least four to five times a week for seven months straight playing this song. It's not even fun, it's work at that point. but it's slick fun though, because of the lifestyle, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm finding, I'm finding the fun. I'm pulling all the fun out of it so I don't get tired of it. You feel me?

But at this point, you know, I'm just in rotation, just going through the motions and shit. And um, they played the song in the club, and the club just went crazy when that shit came on. So they run it back. Like, they on the mic, man. Who is it? Who is it? They run it back about four times. They like, man, we playing it on the radio tomorrow. Like, that was just the most personal one for me because I just felt like, like, man, I got in the car, I was screaming like, let's go. Like, you know what I'm saying? That shit was just like real for me. the run back is that's how you know, man. If the if a DJ just genuinely has to play it again. Matter of fact, that's when Redd Push walked up on me. I was gonna say, he's always there. Yeah, Redd Push. stays at 1145. This is the night when Redd Push walked up on me. He like, bro, this you woo woo, woo. I'm like, yeah, bruh, I've been sent you the song. I walked up on you weeks ago. You damn it. Like, for real. Shout out to Red, man. That's my dog. Damn.

So that's how that relationship started? Yeah, At 1145? 1145. Yeah. I love that. I literally met Redd Push in 1145. Wow. That's gotta make it. I mean, that story just got me fucking pumped. I'm excited now. Like, so so that had to really, I mean, you're busting your ass, bro. You said four to five nights for seven months, bro. Yeah, I'm not gonna be able to. That that night has to, but money going up and down, like, bro. I went broke several times off their music shit. Like, for real. Like, but that had to make it feel almost like all worth it again, right? Yeah, it was like that's confirmation. Like what you're doing is doing something. Like it is now. Like that's I called my mama, like, man, I'm about to be on the radio tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? Like, for sure. Like, definitely. That's hard. Yeah. I'm hyped. I think you said it best, like the run back, bro. Like, yeah. And the fact that he didn't even, the DJ didn't really know what he was playing, right? Like, the DJ at that point was Aunt Dirty.

He knew what he was playing because at this point, I done locked in with Aunt Dirty. Mind you, I've been going to the club. So every time I go to the club, I'm talking to the DJs. I'm building a relationship. I'm skimming you down. You feel me? Like me and Aunt Dirty at this point done already talked outside the club. Bro, I need to be in rotation, what you need, bro. Like, he like, bro, I'm fucking with the record. I got you, bro. Shoot me this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it went from there. You know what I'm saying? Like that. But for sure. Damn, man. Um, so okay. How do you so when the feature happens, right? You know, Moneybagg yo, and and and and you know, Fujiano, obviously it takes it to like another level. You know, it's getting worked like crazy at that point. For me, you've done several big name features in your career so far. Like, having said that, is it fair to say that like the feature strategy works? Yeah.

Yeah. It's yeah. Yeah. I can't, I can't, yeah. Obviously, like for sure. It does work. It changed the way I look at it. But how many people do you know where it hasn't worked? Personally, um, uh I know a few. Yeah. I know a few. It's not always a home run, but it can it can definitely work. But it can definitely work. Yeah. But I always will say it's always deeper than the money. And you know that's like with everything. But like with this, don't like think you can just pay your way to motion. Like you can pay, you know, and get features, and but it's like all that stuff, like them conversations we just had, like about the things that was building into the record. I feel like that also plays such a major part. It needed the feature so it can get to the millions, but it was already so solid. Like I would have bet my last, I did, like pretty much.

You feel me? Bet my last on it several times. Like, you gotta know, like, have a real plan and strategy with it. Like, and it then it'll work, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But it's like I got other records with huge artists too, but they ain't go as big as hitting. You feel me? Like, so yeah. So, you know, you had a little dirk feature, and you know, you talked on some other podcast about like the real deal behind features, right? And I mean, you kind of alluded to like, you know, some of them are very more business in nature, where there's not really after the deed is done, you know, it's for sure, it's kind of done, right? Like, you're not texting Dirk right now, right? No, no, and and you were very open about that. So I'm not, you know, putting something out there that's a secret, I guess, right? So for me, like I'm still trying to wrap my head around like, do you, you know, feel like maybe that wasn't, you know what I mean? Like, if it if it plays out that way, is it still sometimes for you?

You're like, all right, it was still a good business move, even if it didn't lead to like some really strong chemistry or something, right? Um, yeah, I mean, as far as that, like, even with that situation, what I was saying was like, uh, I was just speaking on how it came about. I didn't call that play. You know what I'm saying? Like, boom, man, hit me up. Hey, I just put Dirk on the record. Oh, wow. Woo, woo, woo. I mean, of course, I'm be like, shit, okay. Like, hell yeah, a little Durk hard as hell. Like, you know what I'm saying? But um, I say, like, yeah, it's still a win, you know what I'm saying? It's still a win. Yeah. But yeah. It's just a beat, it's just different versus when you actually do uh get a relationship. Yeah, versus you weren't even in the studio with him, you know what I mean? Like, nah, at all. But I ain't taking it, I'm not saying like I was upset or no shit like that. You feel me?

Like, I wouldn't even know what it was. You didn't even know that's crazy. Of course, I was like, Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Of course You know what I'm saying, like, but but does part of you, you know, maybe wish that you wouldn't have like so quickly just, I don't know that you had a say in the matter, I don't know what your contract was, but like shit, you know, does part of you think that maybe like having someone else on the song might have been, you know what I mean? Like, do you ever look back and been like, damn, I kind of just said, like, fuck yeah, because I was so excited because Dirk obviously is, you know, arguably like towards the top of the totem pole. well, really, like when it happened. I really right then I told him I wouldn't have chose bro, for that song. I felt like I had other songs that would have went harder that Lil Durk would have fucked with but more and went harder on that shit, you know what I'm saying? He still went hard, but I'm just saying, like, I would have had something more for a vibe, I felt like. And um just for the uh like, yeah, on my behalf, I would have went a different route. You know what I'm saying?

But like I said, it was already done. So it was already done. And that's the type of shit that happens when you collide, like link your business with another when you partner up, bro. Like, that's the type of shit versus being independent and being with a label. Like are you liking the independence right now? Oh yeah, right. I'm liking it. Calling shots and shit. For sure, for sure. Like, they always pretty much gave me a creative control, you know what I'm saying? But like, shit. I mean, of course you like independency because I mean that shit coming back your way. Yeah, well, that vacuum for sure. You know what I'm saying? So that's the main thing. Right. So, how much, how much luck do you feel like is involved in like all this, all this music shit in general? Man, I don't even believe in luck. Oh, yeah? Nah, I don't believe in luck. Why not? Cause I think, I just think if you really get your 100% for real, like your 100%, I think you'll receive something. That's what I believe.

Like, I didn't receive nothing out of music until I was fully a hundred percent in. When I like was living, breathing that shit, chasing that shit, attacking it. Like, folks be one foot in and one foot out with shit. And swear they going hard, but you one foot in. Like, you not really going hard like about it. I feel like you go hard about it, like something will happen. You might not be, you know, Drake or no shit. You feel me? But you could get some money out this shit. It's money flowing in this shit. Like, you can get you an M out this shit. Like, for sure. Yeah, even just like everyone wants to be Drake, but it's like, if you can make music and make $125,000 a year, like You feel me? That's a great life in my eyes with your art. Like, that's pretty cool. Man. You pay your bills off of your art. Like, and you live your life and do what you do off your art. Shit.

Yeah. Yeah, it's it's interesting because you'd like to, or not you'd like to, but I kind of think that there are a ton of people that are giving it their all out there and they just haven't seen that, you know, they haven't gotten blessed with whatever, you know, opportunity, right? That but I also don't, now that I'm like, I'm like jogging my brain, being like, who do I know? Who do I know that actually is like who's actually giving it their fucking all? Like for real. Like for real for real. Oh, every time when you, owe my money low, bro. I ain't you're not giving your all. Some of the best moves I made, bro. I was broke in that moment. I might have got some money. The next day, I might not have got no money. Two weeks later. I ain't had nothing right then. I still was, I'm finessing now. I'm working on I done got in for free. I know so and so he gonna like bro, whatever. Like, you gotta just make it happen. You know what I'm saying?

That's how I feel. I guess there are some limitations. Like if I I if I tried my uh all to play professional football, you know, or basketball, like I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna make it. Yeah, but I like to say this too. I don't look at the music game like going to the NBA or the NFL. Like, even my daddy asked me that. Like when I was chasing the shit back then before I got any motion, he's like, man, this shit like going to the NBA. I'm like, no, sir. Not at all. It's not. You nigga, it's either you in the NBA or you not. It's levels with this shit with this rap. Shit. It's a level. You can go play in Europe. Like play ball in Europe. That ain't the NBA. No. Feel me. But it's kind of like that though. You can't go overseas and get some money. It's like that kind of with the rap. Like, you ain't gotta be selling out fucking, you know, Madison Square Garden, but you do tickets at, you know what I'm saying? The Roxy masquerade selling that bitch out. You feel me? Tabernacle. Yeah, you selling that out though consistently. You you can eat.

Like shit straight, like for sure. Yeah, I I don't know what it is about um artists that don't take that mindset approach, right? Everyone does want to be Drake. And they almost, if they're not Drake in a fucking year or something, then they're all pissed off and disappointed and you know, upset and oh, this is fucking bullshit. Like, well, whatever. Focus on yourself, man. Yeah, and and but but almost just acknowledging that like maybe if I take the approach of, hey, let me get to this, you know, this level, right? And then let me get to this level. And then you know, what I mean, like, it there's some saying about like if you just get 1% better every day or whatever the fuck, right? But but the whole mindset is just I don't need to be transforming myself into Drake overnight or in the you know next year or whatever the case may be. So it's it's being okay with you know reaching certain milestones that are still very like tough to reach and something that you should be proud of. But I think I don't know if it's an ego thing, that's part of it.

I mean, artists are, you know, artists are those. I want to be the fucking biggest. Everybody the fucking know my name and sing my shit, yeah. And rap is also like People do be like that. Yeah. Sometimes. So yeah. And I think we live in a in a rap bubble, all of us. Like us three up here. Like specifically, we predominantly, I would assume, listen to rap. You're a rapper. We talk to mainly people in hip hop. And I feel like probably, you know, there's a lot of bands out there that are probably way more comfortable with just like being being a touring band that just you know makes a $50,000 a year salary, and like they're cool. Oh, for sure. I think rappers, yeah, like rap is just a little bit more. Some rappers though, you know, there's some people out here eating that's independent, and it's probably like we might not even necessarily know too much about him, but he eating over there. It's artists who popping in California. We might not be listening to him over here, but he's going crazy in California.

You can go platinum off California alone. You feel me? That's wild. No, for sure. Or in Texas, this shit's so big. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I mean, honestly, we're kind of like the, you know, we're starting to become, I would say, you know, not to toot our own horn, but like we're like the no jumper-ish of the you know, East Coast, or like in Atlanta specifically. So many artists on No Jumper doing interviews have so much fucking motion, but they're just like California rappers where I'm like, who are these? Who the fuck is this guy? And then you check out his gram, his TikTok, his streams, got a million monthly listeners. Going crazy, bro. Opening up for whoever the fuck, like you know, famous artists and stuff like that. As soon as they come out there, now he opening up over there. Like, exactly. Yeah. just like crazy motion where yeah, like you can definitely build yourself like a very sustainable career off of just like momentum in certain regions or in certain like niches you know what I mean? Yeah man you celebrate every win bro and no because like well if you just was if I was just so focused on trying to be out or just then I'd probably be done quit now you feel me Mm-hmm. I ain't made it though yet I'm on the way but you gotta celebrate the wins for sure so when you had like you know hit and going crazy like is there a bunch of pressure that you put on yourself now to reach that same degree of success with a song um I wouldn't say I don't put the pressure on myself is it pressure I mean yeah because it's like you know you gotta make another one do it again you feel me for me it's kind of like just making sure that I stay focused and do what I do to I guess do the same thing again I feel like like hitting that's not my hardest song to me for sure not that song I made I made it for real in 2016 dropped it in 2017 right okay I just think about like matching I'm trying to match the energy of that I put into a record like that I pushed that song for years like years on years how can I match that but do it in a quicker way type shit you know what I'm saying so you need to like feel it?

Do you need to feel that in a song to be able to go that hard? Like, do you have to make a song and then feel like, okay, this one, I gotta push it? Or can you kind of like pick one, a record, and like get yourself there where you can push it as hard as you were pushing that one? You know, I think that's to each his own type shit. For me personally, um, it's something I'm still trying to figure out. For a long time, I felt like I had to be validated by other people with my music. Like, I don't, I didn't really know what I even liked from myself. Like, I'm just making the music and then seeing the reactions and like, oh, okay, y'all fucking with that one. I'm gonna do that one. Like, I'm just spinning the shit out type shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of, but yeah, to each his own. For me though, the ones, like sometimes it'd be like, oh yeah, this shit hard. Like, and we know for sure we gonna drop this one. But right now, for me, it's just about consistency and just showing, like, you know, that I'm one of the hardest. You feel me?

What's your favorite song that's out? You said Hittin's not even your hardest song in your opinion. What is the hardest money move song that everyone needs to go fucking listen to right now? Man, right now. That's out. Right now, y'all need to listen to the project believe and the project still paid. Right there. I haven't dropped that much music over the years. In the last two years, I've dropped 20 songs. In the years before that, I've dropped two projects. But I think you make up for it with your pushing. Yeah, for sure. Exactly. But just even that, like, my like my catalog right now is still in the point where like, bro, you listen to that believe project and that still paid project, you'll hear I'm coming. You're gonna hear them records. Like, it's hard shit on there, bro. It's hard shit. And it's believe that's the first project. It's from like the original when I first dropped Hittin' and Eat. That's the project that had them two songs on there.

Like, man, that shit is hard as hell. And that still paid that I dropped. You feel me? Still paid got overlooked because I was on the leaving out with uh AE. So it was like it didn't get the push and all that shit, like with the Hittin' and Whoop-de-whoop. We ain't buy no features. like you feel me. None of that shit. Like even my shit, Money Man and the Reels and all that, like them my partners. Like, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't no push into the Still Paid album, you feel me? So even that one, I feel like I slept on a lot. But hardest song. The hardest song. Yes. I don't got one. bro. If you had to die with one song only. I mean, shit, I'm gonna die with Hittin' then. But there we go. That's the worst question to ask. When are you gonna stop asking artists that question, bro? Like, who what's your favorite kid? You know what I mean? You can't do that. But it's just really. about that. Hittin' wasn't, so he clearly ignored that one. No, it's just because when you ask that, That's on some shit.

Like, man, Hittin' got so much, man. My man Mundo made it. That been my partner for sixth grade. He didn't even fuck with it at the beginning. Nah, he didn't. He didn't even fuck with it, bro. He said it was cool. type shit. He's fucking with the royalties now, I bet. For sure, for sure. His publishing checks from it are okay. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Publishing checks Hittin'. For sure. But hey, one hard one, y'all need to listen to that Skizzo though. That Skizzo featuring Money Man. That shit hard as hell. I was listening, I I went on like a late night uh walk last night. And I mean, you're right. I got through pretty much all your discography. Like, it's not that much. You know what I mean? Like, I was on a long walk, but I'm just saying, like, no, for sure. You know who mixed the original? You. Yeah, I know. Your boy. Your boy. Not the one with Money Man, but. But yeah, yeah, yeah. That OG. Yeah. I think I did Skizzo. I did easy. Easy. Okay, facts. Because court. Yeah. Yeah. Easy art too. Court made both of them. Skip D. I know him saying King of the Court. Yeah. Yes, sir. Salute to him. Yeah.

My dog since a jit. Yeah. So, so how does it feel, man? Like seeing some success with your friend from sixth grade, bro. Um, that feels amazing. Like, that's why I say I would say that. You feel me? That one. Cause like that shit definitely, like, you know, we grew up listening. I'm like, man, we're gonna be like Gucci and Zay Tiggy. Feel me? Like that's how I'm looking at it, type shit. And the fact that that one really did that, like, man, it was just like, damn, like, for sure. Do you sometimes look at him and you're like, bruh, that shit. I don't even gotta say it. Yeah, okay. It's it's unspoken. Yeah, it's understood. Yeah, it's understood. He already know, boy, you you knew you knew what you were talking about. You just gotta look at him like for sure. it's just the nod. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're going crazy. Oh man. Um love that. That's amazing, man. Uh, so I was listening to an interview with a country artist. So, you know, not not genre related, but I I wanted to get your take on this. He said that there's sometimes when he wants to write a song, he's got this like amazing idea in his head, right?

And he just can't seem to get it the fuck out into a song. You ever have that feeling? Shit. I mean, yeah, kind of like a like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I go out, I make music out of the vibe. So you start with a beat usually uh before a concept. Um you pull up a beat and see how that makes you feel, or you have an idea first. Sometimes, like, sometimes I got them, don't know what I'm gonna say till I get on the beat. Yeah, I have to hear my tone and voice and flow. Like you do the mumble tracks? Yeah. On that cover? Yeah. I do that for sure. That's a key piece. I do that mumble. I ain't even gonna lie to you. Man, no, I ain't even gonna say my recipe. But yeah, I do that for sure, bro. I definitely do the mumble tracks. And um, but sometimes I might have an idea. Like, I might, oh, we gonna make a song about hitting, or something like, you know, we use this lingo a lot. This word, I'm gonna make a song about this word, or a concept. It might be something. my grandma said to me, oh, I'm finna use this.

Those always do well. When there's like a new word or something, it's kind of just a hot new phrase. Oh, I thought you meant the grandma songs. I mean, that too, probably. Okay. I was like, what other songs do you know? Like the idea came from a grandma. Listen, I got a whole album's worth of my grandma's. ideas. Shout out to Grandma 3. Talk to you later about that. Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Yo, so you mentioned, you know, Gucci and Zaytoven, right? It's kind of like who y'all were, I guess, you know, somewhat aspiring to reach that level of like duo, you know, I guess producer artist duo success. I gotta ask this. You know, in my mind, you make like quintessential trap music from Atlanta. Like, you know, I was vibing last night, bro. Like, it really did put me back in like that like solid, genuine like trap music from Atlanta vibe, right? Yeah. Who is on the Mount Rushmore of trap music for you? Four people. Four people. Trap music.

Yep. I say Gucci Mane, young jeezy T.I. Yep. Lil Boosie. Henry, how do you feel about this? And it's like slash a yo Gotti, though. I'll give him the first three. Okay. Give him the first three. All right, so who's your fourth? Gotti is up there. Yeah, I mean, Gotti that's what I say. Slash a yo Gotti. And I also gotta put Titty Boy in contention to some degree as well. man. Shane is definitely one of the ones. One of the ones. I don't think of Boosie immediately, but he definitely is part of that landscape for sure. Man, see, Boosie is deeper than Atlanta, like, bro. Right. You Alabama, Mississippi, like they'll tell you, bro. Like, he like a guy. When we was growing up, bro, like my cousins and all, like anywhere over there, bro. Like, tell you Boosie, one of the ones.

Like, I was on the Memphis kind of stuff in those days. It was like Gucci mixtapes got me started, and then I just became obsessed with Memphis. So I was on the cocaine music mixtapes. Oh, yeah. Back in the day. Oh my God. You definitely got over. Could not wait for the next cocaine music mixed merzik. Let me say it right. Cocaine Muzik mixtape to come out, man. My favorite. Yo, so the music video for hitting, and honestly, like several of your music videos, and honestly, like several of a lot of just trap artists' music videos in general, is like the classic just group of people turning up, yeah, like in the hood, in front of a car, maybe not in front of the block, whatever. Like 100 people. Like 100, 150 people, I think were at the Hittin' shoot, for example. For sure. Like, is that as fun as it looks? Oh, yeah. Like, is it just as much of a like kickback, like turn up, party? You're not stressing at all about like you gotta get the right shot? Oh, nah, me,

Personally, it ain't just uh fun. It's more like going to work. Like, it kind of like going to work. Like, after you be tired of hungry. That's how that shit be like. After the video, like for sure. It's kind of like it ain't just as fun. It's kind of like, man, I guess what you would say, even almost like you putting on a performance or maybe an acting in a movie or something. Like, it's kind of like that. You know what I'm saying? Damn. Yeah. Everybody else just having fun. Right. They're just trying to Get on the camera and do what they do. and shit. Way more fun for them. bro. Bro, get up. Bro, you. I'm telling you, you all pushing up on Moneybagg Yo, nigga, get back. There's always those guys that are like trying to move to the front of the shot. For sure. But put his arm around money bag. Hell yeah. That's my dog. Who are you? So yeah, one of my partners, boy, we was laughing so hard after that. Boy, we like, boy, yo, yeah, boy. He was all up though, boy. Trying to he was feeling himself. Man, what?

Man, I just always look at that, and I'm not gonna lie, man. Like, I see the chains, I see the money, and I just like what percentage of video shoots like that result in any sort of like shenanigans, you know? Um shit. I guess it just depends on who's shooting them. For me, I ain't never had no issue with no visuals. Cause okay, so like no one's running up on some fuck shit. On a hundred people. I'm about to say who wanna do that. Yeah, I guess you're right. I don't know. I just I just look at the value of the like items that are on the set, and I'm just like, man, that's a lot of it's almost safer when there's more people. You know what I mean? I ain't never been worried about none of that shooting no video. Okay, yeah, this is coming from the guy. So I was uh He's an anxious person. if you can't tell. yeah, yeah, I I I am that. Uh I was in, I was an extra in the GA Foogiano Mind Your Business video. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so I played a security guard. Okay. Yeah, the white guy. A white security guard. And my role was to basically uh knock on the dressing room door of Foogiano and GA and like all their friends to basically be like, yo, y'all gotta like stop partying, like chill out, essentially was like my role. And you know, of course, everyone was like, you know, foo was like, yeah, like he's gotta do it. Like, you know, look at this guy. Like, he's clearly the guy that's gonna ruin the party. I was like, okay, awesome. Like thank you. I'm glad I look like this guy. But but like, you know, I'm playing the the This is great. I'm I'm playing the guy and I'm knocking on the door, and I didn't know this was gonna happen. I opened the door to basically tell them to like cool out, you know, for the visual, and I've got red dots on me, bro. Like guns are pointed at me, bro. And I was, I'm not gonna lie, bro. I was pretty scared. He peed a little bit. I definitely tinkled him in my pants. I was fucking with you.

Yeah, and they loved it, man. They were having the best time fucking with this terrified little white kid. How are you gonna make it look real? You you know, you gotta get the real reaction. Yeah, but then so we had to do multiple takes. So I had multiple guns at me pointed at me multiple times, and by the end of it though, I was actually laughing. And so they were like, Yo, you can't be laughing when we're like supposed to be scaring you. That's when you keep the first take. Yeah, yeah, for sure. No, facts, facts. no, I thought that was pretty funny. Um, so still paid. What's the vision there? Still paid, man. That's the family first, you know what I'm saying? But it's also the label, you know what I'm saying? Like, still paid, including myself, got artists and producers. You know what I'm saying? Like my boy Mundo who made him, producer, king of the court, skit, so producer, Rubberband Red, you feel me? Make my last one, believe it. Produced. that one's hard. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate it. Yeah, fuck with that one. Yeah, for sure.

And Rubberband Red, that's my brother. You feel me? Standing on business, definitely hard. That's produced by gross guy. He was uh AE. I mean him through AE. But he's also hard. Yeah, he definitely hard. Yeah, he definitely hard. But I was saying the other producers though, they are still paid. Okay, You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So, like, it's the label. We got the producers, the writers, feel me, the artists, like myself. I'm ready. Did you always want to do that? Or is it just kind of like it seems like a trend? I'm not gonna lie, right? It seems like rappers want to become the heads of labels, right? Mm-hmm. do you feel it seems like you feel like real passionate about it though? No, yeah, for sure. it's not like a check the box thing. You know what I mean? Like, aren't you see I don't you feel like you're seeing it like all the time now? Like, well, when if an artist gets, you know, some level of notoriety, it's easy to just put other people on using their name. So if you, if you you might as well have them under your umbrella at that point. But but it seems like you're like more, I don't know, it seems like you're just more invested in it.

It's like like I was still paid before I start rapping, you know what I'm saying? So we always was like, still paid was just a forever thing for me. But as far as the label, it was always the plan because I always knew. Um for one, I don't look at rapping like I'm not trying to rap forever. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not why I even got the rapping. I kind of got to rapping more on some like I love to rap, and uh, I felt like realistically, I felt like it was gonna be able to be one of the things that bring me legal money quicker than others, you know what I'm saying? Which it did. So I'm like, that's kind of more how I was at with the like what can I bring to the table for still paid the label? Well, I know I could rap and I could get some motion, so that's what I'm gonna do. Mundo, we see he pretty much popped it off. You feel me? With being the producer, I'm seeing him he bankroll fresh and 2 Chainz and Travis Porter. I'm seeing that happen.

So I'm like, oh, my boy again, he's doing it. So I need to go ahead and get on my 10. I seen him, he talked court right in front of me, like rubber band red, how to make beats quick. Like, I'm like, okay, we have a full. If you take me, Mundo, you know what I'm saying, or me and rubber band, or me and Court, whatever, just put us in the studio. We coming out with full beat song, but like album. Like, we don't need anybody else. That's worth something. Like, we're creating this vibe. Us, you know what I'm saying? We don't need the memes. Yeah. I I just love how much of like a fan of collaboration you are. Like the fact that you're shout, like, just not everyone comes on here and really shouts out the squad like that. Yeah. Like, I know everyone does want to like, you know, say thanks to their, you know, homies or people that put them on, whatever. But like, what's different about you and that I appreciate is like you got like mad love for these these guys that are around you. And it sounds like, especially Mondo, since he's been, I guess, the longest standing relationship, right?

No, rubber band Red is the blood brother. He's your blood brother. We're two years apart. Oh shit. Who made believe it? He's my okay, same mama, same daddy. I stand Correct. Court? I know Court before Mundo since when Court was like in diapers. These are OGs, man. You feel me? Like when Court was like, when I was in kindergarten, I met Court, like sleeping over at they house as children. Like him and his brother. You feel me? So like we are family. Okay. All of us. Mundo, I like I say, met a sixth grade. So like he's the last almost. Yeah, technically, but I mean, that's crazy. it's like that one don't change nothing though. But me and Mundo, it been times though, like when I wasn't around uh Court, you know what I'm saying? I went graduated when I'm with Mundo though. You know what I'm saying? So it's all the same. Yeah. But so would you say that those guys um like significantly helped you become the rapper that you are? Like, do you think they shaped your rapping abilities?

Um, yeah, and I I say this too all the time. Like Mundo play a real reason, a big part of why I rap anyway. Cause like I wasn't, I was rapping for fun. Like, yeah, like just like everyone. Yeah, like I was rapping because I just enjoyed rap. Yeah. Like seeing Mundo get motion. Um, you know what I'm saying? Like when Mundo was like, man, fuck what y'all talking about, man. I ain't partying, nothing, bro. I'm finna went, bought equipment, spent thousands on equipment, man. Y'all, he in the crib making beats. We like, bro, this man dead serious. Feel me? Like seeing that shit and seeing them get motion. I'm like, this is my right hand man. I'm like, shit. And he telling me, boy, I need you, boy. Like, I know what you're gonna do. Like, like nigga, I need you to get right. I'm like, oh yeah. Say less. Like, that played a major reason on why I did it. You feel me? Like, for real, for real. Yeah. Yeah.

Now that's hard. and my brother, rubber band red, who made the beats, he like my favorite rapper. Oh wow. He just don't drop that much, but he really like my favorite rapper, though. So it definitely they definitely play a part. Okay. Shout out to Red. We need some more Red music. He got some coming, yeah. Oh, he does? He got some coming. Yeah. Okay. He coming to me soon That's dope. So the believers is what you like refer to, I guess. Like your That's us. Yeah. yeah. Yeah. Is there any affiliation with the Justin Bieber Beliebers? Nah. At all. Nah, but salute. Okay. Salute, y'all. I don't know. God damn it, man. It just it just seemed, it just seemed like eerily, you know, similar. I don't know. Do you have the next question? Uh I thought we were gonna unpack that a little bit, but uh, no, for sure, man. Um, no, this is great. I mean, like, what what are you most excited about, you know, for the rest of this year? What can we look forward to.

Yeah, I know big Venice business, man. I mean, for sure, bro. I was just talking with Henry off camera. So for those that don't know, Venice is founded by Troy Carter, the legend in this music shit. Discovered Lady Gaga amongst like a ton of other artists. He's just like Shark Tank, yeah. One of those music music moguls, right? And he started Venice as a distribution company that really has taken, you know. I think you talked about it, like taking a really hands-on approach with a lot of their artists, and he's building a fucking Avengers executive team, bro. Yeah, I mean, obviously, our guy Redd Push is over there, senior director of AR. He's gotten so many like people on the team that are just, if anyone can help artists succeed, it's gonna be the Venice team, honestly, man. So I think you're in a really good spot with like who you're partnered with, right? On the distribution side. But like what are we, you know, we got projects this year.

You know, what what are you most excited about? Would you say? Um, yeah, man, I'm most excited about this new music on the way, man. Like, this shit's so hard, man. And it's like I took my time, you know what I'm saying? Even since once I left AE. Um, I've only dropped two songs since then. You feel me? So, like these next projects coming in 2023, man, they're going crazy. Visuals going crazy, and it's consistent, like it's piled up, you know what I'm saying? So I'm really just excited about them. Um, you know what I'm saying? I'm just excited for that for real. Yeah, yeah. For me, I think the consistency, man, is like at least once again, in the era that we live in now. Once again, are there artists that exist today, like the Frank Oceans of the world that can prove this theory wrong? Absolutely. Absolutely. But for the majority of people that are trying to get on, I think it's that consistency, bro, that's gonna win. Yeah, you know, it's it's never quitting. It's that it's staying on their fucking necks, bro, with quality music, quality visuals, quality content, right?

Like, that's what's gonna win. So, like, if you got a bunch of consistency lined up for the rest of this year, then I think like sky's the limit, bro. For sure. For sure, for sure, man. Yeah, Believe. absolutely. Believe Money Moo, we have entered a final segment of the One More Time podcast. Oh shit. Henry, where the fuck are we at? Oh shit. Oh shit, indeed. My face ID never works with the boom mic. Yeah. Um, this is the rapid fire rampage. Okay. There it is. You're still getting used to that. Yeah, I gotta turn for my buttons now, but um, it's all good. It's a three-part rampage. I'm gonna explain it as we go, though. First part is just some short answer questions. You're not judged on correct answers, but you are judged on speed. It's just a rapid fire rampage. So part one. And when he says judged, he really just means we make one comment about how fast you're joking. We've joked about doing a Hall of Fame, but maybe one day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's been some really quick people. So this one, especially, you gotta answer as fast as possible.

Don't think. What is your bank pin number? That's worse than the answer. That's worse than believers, man. I didn't even write that. I don't know how that got on here. So let's let's get to the real. Sorry about that. Okay. For real. You can pick either an artist or a producer to do a full-length project with any artist or any producer. Who would you pick? Future. This one's more of a philosophical question. Is water wet? No. What is something we could all be doing to make the world a better place? Being good people. Simple as that, Henry. You must delete three states. Which states gotta go? Alaska.

South Dakota. Montana. Damn. Montana gets. I would keep Montana, but Montana always goes. Yeah. And one of the Dakota. I just don't know nothing about them. That's all. Yeah, that's for sure. South Dakota has Mount Rushmore, so I think North. Oh, for real? That's where that shit at? I think so. I think it's in South. So, but you learn something new every day here, Moo. We'll replace it with Moo's trap Mount Rushmore. Yeah, you know. Yeah, we need one or no. Yeah. We need to put it right here in the Ado. Yes. Let's replace the Stone Mountain shit. Yeah, that's right. Get those racist ass generals off of there. Yeah, man. Imagine Gucci, Jeezy, T.I. and Boosie being on I'm telling you. Stone Mountain. It will match, it will match Atlanta. That's hard. All right, I'm starting a petition for that. There already is one. Okay, I'm signing it. They were going to put OutKast on it. They got a million signatures, nothing happened. So don't worry about it. So my one probably won't make any difference. Yeah.

Uh for this next one, we're gonna need your phone. What? pull out your phone. Oh. What are we doing? We're gonna go on Instagram. Pull up the gram. We're gonna go to the DMs. We're gonna check the third one down. Who is it? What were you talking about? Um, it ain't open. Ooh. And it's probably not a I probably didn't say nothing. It's a mention. Uh so you want me to keep looking? Is it is it anyone that you know? Let's go one down from that. One more down. Nope. Um, one more down. It's Redd push, but it's just some. We ain't talking though. He just sent me some uh what'd he send you? Just some video about um JJ's fish. He know I like JJ's. Okay. That's incredible. Okay. All right. Shout out to Redd. Red for the JJ's. Last one. Last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word?

Fuck. Part one. Part one. JJ's fish. So we got JJ's. fish. Pretty delicious right now. Yeah. We didn't get the pin number, but that's all right. You know? I thought that wasn't a real question. Henry. Yeah, sorry. No, I don't know how that got on there. Uh, the second part is that this or that. I'm gonna just give you two choices and you pick one. Right. Nope. Still struggling, bro. Dude. Not very like. Nah, it's not user-friendly over there. We're gonna figure it out. It's okay. One of these days we'll have enough money. If y'all support us with some donations, that's right. We could hire someone to just press the rapid fire rampage button. Drop it in the cash. Yes. Link in our bio for real. Yes. You know, this shit runs on donations around here. Right. So we're gonna be paying off this set for years. It's gonna take a while. We need that Crown Royal sponsorship, guys. Hit us up. Yep. Starting with Twitter or Instagram? Instagram. Melodies or drums. Drums.

Seafood or barbecue. Seafood. Win the lottery or find your soulmate. Win the lottery. He's like, I could settle. That's it. Number five, six down the list. It'll be fine. Lose all of your current music or lose everything in your checking account. I mean, I lose the checking account because I get the money back. I like it. I like it. Give up your driver's license or give up airplanes. I give up my driver's license. I like that. I don't want to drive nowhere to be 1,000. There you go. I'd rather ride. Get the get the driver. Boom. Intense toothache for 20 minutes or a mild stomach ache all day. I'd go mild. Yeah, I'd go mild stomachache. But them toothaches be hurting, boy.

They're the worst. Tooth and ear. Worst aches known to man. Last one of the this or that. Rap on only country beats or leave the music industry. I'll probably just bow out, man. Hang it up. Yeah, man. It done went left for me, bro. I don't know what to do no more. Bro, I'm so happy. I tried a couple times. I'm so happy. he said that. Kept it real. Kept it real. Because we've given some outlandish versions of that. Yeah. And people have been like, oh, I would never leave the music industry. Yeah, I'd fuck it. I'm making death metal now. Exactly. And I'm like, no, you're not. I'm a hyper pop guy now. Yeah. So the fact that he's just like, well, it was a good run. Yeah. That country shit ain't for me. Sorry about it, fellas. Just performing my old stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the last part is the word association. I'm gonna say a word, and then you just say the first word off the top of your head right back to me. Nice and easy.

Rap. Starting with hip hop. Rap. Producer. Mondo. Shout out. Ice cream. Vanilla. President. Obama. Galaxy. Space. Verse. I was about to say rap again. Verse. You can. Yeah. Rap. Podcast. Talk. Walk. The correct answer was. one more time. It's okay. God damn it, Henry. Mushroom. High. Fire. Burn. Nurse. Hospital. Magic City. Stripper.

Judge. Jail. Glock. Shots. Lil. Wayne. Still paid. What an interview. Still paid. What an interview. What a rampage. Money moo. If y'all fought with this interview, as always, please like, comment, and subscribe. And hit that donation link in the fucking bio. And follow Moo on social media and stream believe and still paid. Absolutely. So for sure. Money Moo, you are a uh friend of the podcast now. We appreciate you coming on. And Henry, until next week, what are we doing? Getting out of here. We're getting out of here. Peace. Peace. That shit like one more time, that part that one more time. That shit like one more time, that part that one more time.