Bakkwoods Interview: Executive Producing for SoFaygo

For producers out there who are, you know, trying to come up. How did you get your first few placements? I paid for them bitches. Looking back on it, do you think that that was a wise move? Every path is different. So I felt like that's what I needed to do at the time. So like that shit got me in the rooms. I understand that I don't have shit. So it was like, if I got some bread, like, what's up, nigga? Let's do some shit. I really like got my foot in the door type shit. Money speak. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time podcast. I'm Playback Ben here with one more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm Playback band here with my co-host. Henry with a three, because Henry with an E was already taken. Henry, who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? Welcoming in on episode 88. 88 of the One More Time Podcast. Super hot rising producer out of Atlanta. We are blessed to have ATL Jacob in the building. No, bro.

We couldn't get Jacob. It's not Jacob. It's not Jacob. My actual name is Jacob. See? Shit. And he's from Atlanta. And you're from Atlanta? Yeah, I'm from Atlanta. So I'm not wrong. The stars have aligned for you today, Henry. We do have one of the hottest producers coming up out of Atlanta. We got backwoods in the building. Woods. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hey Woods, light that shit up. Light that shit up. Okay. I try I I try to do that. I try to do that. Yeah, you you definitely do that. So we talked about this on an episode with TP, who's Jetson Maids manager. All right, all right, all right. We talked about the importance of a producer tag. I want to get your input. How important do you feel a tag is for a producer? I mean, it's definitely plays an important role because I feel like that's how niggas know you. Cause niggas don't know who made the beat. Like, you can just look somebody name, but you don't you don't know their face. So like I feel like that creates the brand, if that makes sense. What about like a Dr. Dre or a Timbaland though?

I mean, that was different, like, cause back then it was like a lot of niggas wasn't doing what they was doing, but so it's so it's so saturated now. I feel like Yeah. Gotta stand out. Yep. Mhmm. Easy. Yeah. Yeah, it's almost like people just knew based on which artist was dropping, yeah, that it was gonna be Pharrell, it was gonna be Dre, it was gonna be Timbaland, whatever. And they had their own sound, so it's like you could tell if it's a Pharrell beat, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. So, how do you feel about Nav's bar talking about like if the producer tags in there? What was the what was the bar? He's like uh I'll I'm gonna take his tag out and remake the beat or some shit. Yeah, yeah. But that's that nigga, yeah. How do you feel about that? He took a shot. Meaning like take the tag out. He's basically saying, like, don't fucking include your tag, or else I'm just taking it and remaking the beat. I mean, I mean, he must have had a bad relationship with some shit. Like, yeah, he's got some sort of you know pent up energy that's coming out on that one for sure.

All right, what's your favorite tag of all time? Uh and don't say your own. Although it's a great tag, though. It is good. No, I don't even I don't even like my shit no more. I'm not gonna lie. Sick of it. I'm trying to get some new shit. Okay. Metro got like 10 tags, like that's hard. Like, just like what's the best Metro tag? I like the thug where he yells, Metro Metro. I think uh if young Metro don't trust you, I'm going to shoot you. but I I I kind of recreated it. I was like, if young Woods don't trust you, he's gonna smoke you. Is that too similar though? It's definitely too similar. But like, who cares? Like, who gives a fuck? True. we're gonna be like mad. Rap is based off of sampling, you know what I mean? So no, I mean it's funny that you mentioned Metro because we talked about how you know your opinion was on tags, is that if it can fit perfectly in the song, meaning like it doesn't come across as like jarring and like If it sounds like a part of the song, yeah. I think it's a good tag. And so Metro's multiple versions, I feel like he's able to like flexibly fit within the record, depending on like what the vibe of the song is. He's gonna go with like the you know, Metro one or like the you know, the one you said, yeah, exactly.

It's like anyone's song, it's like oh, future did your first bar. That's hard. Yeah, that's automatically a win. That's cool. So, you know, let's let's get a hot take here. What's your least favorite tag of like a a well-known producer, right? I'm not saying that. Oh god, I was trying to get the smoke. Trying to get the clickbait YouTube clip. you are you are fresh off of executive producing Pink Hearts. Yes, the Faiyaz album. Was that your first role as executive producer? Yes, sir, yep. Okay, and so how would you summarize the role of an EP? Right? I feel like everyone has like a different definition. Like, what what was your definition of EP in this project? I mean, like, I engineered everything, I damn near made every beat, but like I made I I like was there for every single song. So I felt like it doesn't I at this point, like I realized like it's not really about me. It's about just like making sure this shit just sounds good and like caters to like who he's like dropping the shit to, you know what I'm saying? Like fans and shit.

But it was definitely stressful as fuck. Yeah, yeah. What what was the process like? What was the approach? You know what I mean? Like, you know, when you get with Faiyaz and you're like, hey, we're gonna work on this album, and you know, he's giving you the reins to executive produce it, like what is the process like for those that don't know how this works? It honestly, like, we was working on that shit for like two years, and it's like it was never on a point where I wanted it, like I it was never in a point, like I was executive, producer. like this is me. It just happened like that, you know what I'm saying? So it was very natural. So I feel like I feel like um that it was like a big responsibility, but it just like it just like it just so happened so naturally. Like I didn't I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. You feel me? Like it just like I had to learn, I was learning the steps as I was going. So it was like, yeah, it was cool. Yeah, it's gotta take so much like trust from Fago, right? To have you alongside him to like guide, you know, him and like him guide you. Cause like you said, you were fucking learning, right?

Like you didn't and you could be nefarious, like an executive producer could be like, oh, I'm I'm making every beat, I'm deciding this and that. Yeah, you take someone that's like humble enough to be like, what's best for the song, what's best for the project, what's best for you. So I I had a hell of people add to it or in terms of shit, because like I just didn't know, so I was like, I feel like this person can do this, this person can do this, we can blend this together, like certain shit like that. Yeah, I I'm just you know, I'm not the creative here in this you know circle, but like is it something where two years ago y'all set out to say, hey, we're gonna make an album. And then you know what I mean? Like, how does it actually go? Right? Like, what was the two-year journey like? Is it just like tons of sessions and then you're picking the the best song? You know what I mean? Like, well, what's the actual process like? It was it we made after me, and I we didn't know that shit was gonna go. We just was like, we better put some shit out. Like, he picked the track list and shit, whatever. And then, like, he was telling me he was like, I want my next album to be called Pink Hearts.

And I was like, all right, bet this is 2020. And I was just like, all right, bet. So he's just working on it. Like, it wasn't even like this is this this is the song, you know what I'm saying? It just was like, we just working. Like, we just trying to find good ass, we just trying to make good ass music. So it was like, it wasn't really like a set out goal in a instance, but like I it just was like. We were just making shit. I don't even know. There's something beautiful about that. It's like you you kind of just want to feel free. Like, oh, just we just want to make the best shit possible. But then you do have to have that moment, like later, like, all right, how do we actually package this into something dope? Yeah, you know, separating those two. Well, yeah, so how do you know when it's done? You don't, right? I mean You don't. I don't. if that last spot is filled, that shit done. You feel me? So you were working maybe towards like a you know, estimated quantity of songs. Yeah, and then it was yeah, it just kept on getting added, added, added.

Like when we went when we went to Miami to fuck with Pharrell, like it was just like an added piece, you know what I'm saying? We wasn't looking for it. We wasn't like, we was just like, this might be dope, you know what I mean? I guess we'll put Pharrell on the album. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, it probably took a lot of thought. Like, should we do it? Like, I don't know, is he good? No, honestly, it wasn't. He's washed, it wasn't even a lot, it wasn't even a lot of thought. It was just like Barry was like, let's go fuck with Pharrell Miami. We were like, shit, whatever. Let's go do it. Shout out to Barry. Shout out to Barry for sure. Thanks. Man, I I heard him in another interview, you know, you might not have seen this. Like, someone asked him, like, how was it meeting Pharrell? And like, you would expect this like earth shattering. response. So everybody asked me, like, yo, bro, just like the biggest producers, like, yo, like I meant to ask you, like, how was it working with Pharrell? And I was just like, it was cool. But it's like the way Pharrell is, he's very humble, he's very like monotone, he's very like, he's like relaxed. So it's like it makes me want to like like approach it relax when somebody asked me. So it's like I'm not gonna go, oh my god, that shit was crazy.

Like, get a selfie. Like, come on out, we're in Pharrell. Like, nah, it was like it was like some real cool shit, like you know what I'm saying? Some players shit. Like, it was like he strikes me as that type of dude for sure. I can see that, yeah. Yeah, so um how would you describe the sound that you and Faiyaz created? Let's let's talk, I guess, about Pink Heart specifically, because I think it's you know evolved, you know, potentially from after me. Yeah, but how would you describe the sound? Um out of body. You know what I'm saying? When you listen to it, you just be like, you know? Yeah, I don't I don't really think there is like a specific name for it, you know? Yeah, it's it's funny. I'm I'm not sure if this was in reference to After Me or like you know, earlier projects or or songs, but I think you described it as Rage and B at one point. Rage and B, Yeah, it's still Rage and B. Okay, come on. We still haven't unlocked it for real. Like, we still like growing to that shit, and and niggas don't understand because they can't do it. They can't do it because it's brand new, you made it, yeah.

Feel me? Yes, I think that's what you know well, you kind of alluded to this when we were talking about like Dre, Pharrell, Timbaland. It is something where like if you're gonna have a career that's as like long and you know, prolific as those people we just mentioned, you do have to create a new sound. Yeah, absolutely. Like it one thing I was talking to Faiyaz about this shit last night, it has to cater to like the fans, it has to like they're like you can be in your own world, but it oh, you also have to like cater to them. So, like, I've been like trying to figure out like how can I make this sound resonate with our audience type shit. So, how do you kind of learn what your audience like who they are and what they want? You know, what is that process? Like how do you them niggas DM us? Them niggas tell us what we they want. You know what I'm saying? Like every day, like, bro, drop this, drop this, drop this. I'm just like, goddamn, relax, like leave me alone a little bit, you know what I mean? Yeah, does the fago like fan base come at you heavy?

I mean, honestly, I came up with that nigga, and his fan base is particularly my fan base, so it's like all his all my followers are really like him, his shit, like you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I'm like, he's the pioneer. I'm just like the I'm like the huh, you know what I'm saying? I'm right there next to him, you know what I'm saying? Driving the horse. You feel me? Yeah, nah, I'm not driving that shit. But I'm in the back. You feel me? He's getting chauffeured around in the carriage. Backwoods, not frontwoods. I'm good. Okay, Henry. He got bars. So Fayo quoted something along the lines of like working with you, you know, he shouted you out, which is so dope. I I love how much like love, you know, he shows you as a producer because like honestly, not all artists are like that. So shout out to him for like giving you your flowers as someone who's a critical part of what he's been building. Um, you know, he talked about like you're you unlock this like different level of maturity and like him able to unbottle emotions. I think specifically maybe in reference to pink hearts.

What what did that look like? Can you point to like themes or bars or like what did he mean by that? Do you think like actually in in function? I think the best way to describe is is that when we started working, um we were just working, like we didn't really talk to each other. Like, like it wasn't on some like French shit. Like, he would pull up to the crib, make a song and dip. And then it was his birthday night. I remember it was 2021. 2020, 2021. 2020, it was 2020. And we made this song called The World Is Yours. I engineered it. And it was uh it was a crazy experience because like we was recording for two hours, but the shit sounds fucking trash. And we was like, why is this shit sound like this? And the mic was backwards the whole time. What? So like flipped? Yeah, it was flipped. So it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, Hey, yo. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Sounding brazy. Like, so like the mic was flipped, and we was like, damn, this shit, we're tweaking, like, what the fuck are we on? So the we we uh uh moral of the story is um we get it fixed out and then it takes us a couple hours to make the song.

But usually, like when we make a song, it takes us a few, like it doesn't take him an hour. Like he just did he did some shit and like left. So then we made this great ass song. Took us a couple hours. I'm just like, goddamn, like I didn't know you really just sat down and like really think about this shit, like, and like you wanna like do this shit. And he's like, hell yeah, bro. Like, I didn't I honestly like we would make music and I just was like, I thought you wanted me out of there. Like, and then I was like, nah, bro, I'm like trying to like work, Let's kick it. Let's work, nigga. So then I felt like after that, it like built the trust up so it realized I it started to go to where like I realized this nigga can really sing. And like that's why I started like taking the R and B shit more serious, because like that nigga can you, yes, nigga has a beautiful voice. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, nigga, you finna use this shit. Finna get on this sexy ass, like, you know what I'm saying? Bitches gonna make some love for this shit. So it's almost like the trials and tribulations. Like it took like the fuck up, and then him being like, damn, like we should do it again.

You being like, yeah, we should do it again, and y'all both being like, we actually care about this, and we we're both in this. Type shit. We're just going to do it. To like make that bond for real. Yeah, facts. That's wild. How did you, like, how did you specifically push through those, like kind of more, I don't know if it were awkward or you know, less than ideal sessions at first, right? Because like had you given up and just been like, yo, don't let that guy come back. Like he was. Was he paying you hourly as an engineer? No, no, because it was on love. He was using my beats. Oh, right, yeah, for sure. Yeah. So, like, did you have the vision at that point? Or was it just luck? Bro, when I started working with him, bro, I didn't know what the fuck he sounded like. I just, my man's Jamie was like, yo, you gotta work with Faiyaz. Like shout out 404 Jamie. Facts, 404 Jamie. He was like, You gotta work with him, he's tough. Like, and I was like, all right, bet. You know, I was I at this point, I was like, I don't give a fuck. I'm trying to work. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it just like it grew like that, like from like me not knowing him to knowing who he really was. In a sense. How important is that?

It's very important. Cause like I feel like one thing this year I'm trying to do is work with artists that I can really like have relationship with. I don't want to work with people. I just send in shit like that. shit not genuine. Like, You don't build, you don't get nothing from that. You get some bread, you get some, you might get a number fucking number one, maybe. I mean, maybe a number one. That shit rare, but you might get a plaque. You're definitely getting a plaque from that shit. And it's just like, that shit not really gonna do nothing for you. Like, that shit not like substantial to your career. Like, you don't have leverage, like, you're not feeling uh, you know what I'm saying? It kind of reminds me of like the the microwave music versus versus the oven oven shit, right? Like, because arguably for you to build a sound, that shit isn't gonna be as quick as maybe you send a beat to an artist who's already charting, yeah, and you catch one, and you know, you get the placement, you get the plaque, and then it's over. But them niggas don't know you made that shit. That's the crazy thing.

Like, that's why building relationships is so key. Cause like you gotta be there. Like, you got like this is like niggas, they niggas don't have friends in this shit for real for real. Like they don't know who to trust. So it's like if you build that trust, nigga, they gonna put you on, bro. Like, do you see a big advantage being able to engineer? Yeah, for sure. isn't that kind of massive? Just being able to like be pull up and record on my beat. Bro, it's like it's like knowing different dolls and like making beats. Yeah, it's like when you walk in a room, you can do anything. Like, you guys are like, Are you in FL by the way? I mean, I just got back to on FL. I was on Ableton for two years. Okay. But like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's being able to walk in a room and be able to like touch everything. Like, niggas. Can you can you work in Pro Tools? Yeah, I'm I'm fluent, very fluent. He's by he's he's multilingual when it comes to DAWs. I can't speak different languages, but if it comes to music, yeah, I can do all that. Yeah, that's hard. I like it.

That's hard. So, you know, there was a lot of hype and momentum around pink hearts. Yeah. How does someone who, you know, even though you weren't the artist, you were as damn as close as you could be to the like success of this project. What what's that build-up like, man, when it's like leading up, you know, it's release week, you're getting to release day. Like, what's going through your mind like dealing with that? I'm not gonna lie, like I was with I was with my girl and my cousin. That's sitting here. the two people in this in the studio today. Shout out to Shara and Noah. Yep. And I um we're just chilling, like, you know, I think me and Noah was making beats or just listening to music or something. And then my girl brings me a cake, and like it said, Pink Hearts. Congrats, you know what I'm saying? And it really didn't, like it was, like the night before it dropped. And it really didn't hit me, I was like, damn, it's been two years, and this shit hasn't dropped, but it's about to drop. It doesn't feel like shit. Like it's just like, I feel like at this point, like, fuck it. Whatever drops. Like it's like finally.

Absolutely. Yeah, like, bro. Like let's go. I feel like who cares? Like, don't celebrate nothing. This is just like a milestone. Just keep going. Like, I feel like one thing I want to do this year is like, okay, a song drop. I'm not finna fucking celebrate my life off of this shit. Like, nigga, we ain't do nothing yet. Nigga, we ain't win nothing. We ain't do nothing. Like, this shit ain't they ain't charting nothing. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like we just gotta keep going, bro. Don't get this, don't get caught up in the moment. Like, you know what I'm saying? It is a moment, but it's like respect it, but it's like, bro, you still have a lot more to do. Yeah, and I I love that approach, but I guess something that we try and do better about is like you do have to at least celebrate, you know, the stuff you've been doing, right? Because if not, like what the fuck are you really doing it? You know, you're just like marching so quick, and it's like you don't take time to appreciate like what you have. been doing. You'll burn yourself out, kind of. Yeah. I'm not, I'm yeah, I'm that's that and that comes back to like having fun with the process. So like I feel like if you're having fun with the process, then you don't even gotta worry about all that, you know what I'm saying? Cause you know what you was doing, you you had a great time doing it.

So, like, what else do I need? I don't need to that's key, man. If you can love the process, and you can just you're just looking forward to getting back to the process, yeah. Like you're winning so hard. We don't need to keep celebrating this shit. We already had fun doing it, like have a have a night, maybe. Yeah, have a night for sure. You know, maybe I'm just being too little serious. Hit Magic City one time, you know. I still haven't been to Magic City. What? All right, we're taking Magic City to or we're taking Woods to Magic City next Monday. Facts, it's gotta be a Monday. Say that, don't step on that, you know. You know what I'm saying? Okay, well, Henry will probably take you. I'm not sure I'm going. So what you about to do? He was my kid, probably. I respect that. Noah, you coming to Magic City? Noah's coming for sure. Noah's dead. He said hell yeah. So I want to kind of rewind, right? Because that's what that's what's been going on lately. I do want to kind of take a step back into like what path were you on? Like, I I know you kind of started making beats out of like FOMO borderline, right? Like you saw some shit happen in Atlanta. You were out in Cali at the time. But like, what path was your life on at that point?

Like before you started making music. Yeah, like a job. Yeah, like what were you doing? Just to DJ. I was I would not even like I was trying to figure it out. I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. I was in college, like, you know what I'm saying? Experiencing life, not in not even really like before like knowing what life was. So I was really just trying to find myself, you know? And then boom. Magic. Magic, yeah. So I think this is super important for you know us to talk about and for producers out there who are you know trying to come up. How did you get your first few placements? I paid for them, bitches. yeah, that's big. I I want to talk about this because I thought that that was so interesting because A, not a lot of people are gonna admit that even if they did, yeah, right, because it is this weird game. Like you see artists and even other like bigger producers charging for collabs and charging for placements, and this it's this whole industry borderline within the music industry of like paying for placements. Yeah, yeah.

Looking back on it, do you think that that was you know, yeah, like a wise move? I mean, shit, like every path is different. So I felt like that's what I needed to do at the time. So, like, that shit got me in the rooms. Like, you know, money speak, you know what I mean? So it's like I understand that I don't have shit, so it's like, if I got some bread, like, what's up, nigga? Let's do some shit. Like, so that really like got my foot in the door type shit. You know what's so crazy? I the first placement I ever got was Candy Paint, and I paid $200. That was his biggest song that year. And 200 is sounds cheap. It's cheap. You know what I'm saying? He was letting those placements go for the low, bro. Wait, yeah, who was the artist again? Candy paint. Lil' candy paint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He Big candy now. Okay. He big candy. He's evolved. He's evolved. I mean, with Super Saiyan. Damn. So, you know, you end up moving back to Atlanta, you know, after some time spent in Cali. Like, what about Cali wasn't working for you?

I feel like Cali wasn't working because I I didn't really establish anything yet. Like, I feel like a lot of people come to Cali when they're established. So, like, I'm trying to figure out how to get established. And I'm not from there. One thing is that if you're from there, I feel like nobody's from LA though. Like, people aren't actually from LA. But if you're from LA, you're gonna know a lot of people. Okay. It's like Atlanta. Like, you if you're from Atlanta, like you're gonna know every and the ins and outs. Yeah, you're gonna know this person that knows this person. You know what I'm saying? It's just like anything, but L.A. is like awesome, like that's like the fake world. That's the fake world. Like, it's a it's a fantasy, baby. It's Instagram in a city, yeah. It's Instagram, bro. So it's like it's the internet for real, for real. So it's like nigga, I'm trying to walk into the internet with motherfucking no no motherfucking hackers or some shit. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I like with no website. I'm not paying for likes. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. You know what I mean? So, so like, at what point do you feel things start to be real? Right?

Like, because you know, you're a kid in Cali, you move back to Atlanta, you pay for some placements, whatever, you know, in the in the early stages, but like at what point do you kind of do you like feel the pendulum swing at like a certain moment, really? Or you talking about in a sense of the process. Yeah, like just your career actually being viable, right? Like you actually being able to turn this, you know, making music into something. This is crazy. It's really fucking crazy. So I had a close homie, his name was Six Dogs. And RIP six dogs. RIP, man. Man, what a fucking thing. And fucking, it was so crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he passed away, you know. It was 2020, early 21. We're just like, what the fuck? Like, what the fuck? How did this happen? Like, you know what I'm saying? And then it's just like the energy is weird. And then, like, like we dropped after me was already dropped, and like I'm like in my bed, and I'm staying, I'm staying, I'm with Jamie. I'm still at Jamie's house. I'm staying at Jamie's. And like I look on my Instagram, and I see Kourtney Kardashian has posted our song at Stormy's birthday party. Wow.

And I'm like, what the fuck? This is like a couple days after Six died. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was a weird energy time period. And I I go into Jamie's house. I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? And this is like, bro, like that shit at that moment, that shit changed. Everything changed. Everything fucking changed. It was crazy. Like, the inner it's just like some bad shit happened, and then like we just leveled up completely, like all the way. Once the Kardashians know about you, shit is different. I feel like for sure. That's like a fucking roller coaster for real. Bro, like, and then then a week later, Travis flew us out. Wow. It's just like the boom, boom, boom, boom. We just, I'm just like, our life changed right there. After that, it was over with. It was it was in the mud. Did Travis catch wind of Faiyaz Through that. So it was crazy. Kardashian thing? So look, so look, so look, it's crazy. Who do you think played it? It was Travis. Travis played it at the party. Yeah, he told Kourtney. But Kourtney just took a video of it. You know what I'm saying? okay.

So like basically, like it was crazy because like we haven't, I didn't, I didn't uh I I introduced Faiyaz and Barry together, and it this was at a time, and they was trying to figure out how to to reach Faiyaz type shit, and they hit they hit Barry like you heard of this artist? And I'm and then he's like, bro, my little man just told him about told me about this shit. And you know what I'm saying? Then it's just like it's like inter interconnected because like Travis and Barry like go back, you know what I'm saying? Well, well, yeah, didn't he manage Travis at like early, early, early stages? Yeah, at one point where in early early stages, like they go back deep, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so like it just like it was crazy how it interconnected because they was looking for him, and Barry was like knew them niggas, like you know what I'm saying? So they it was just like crazy. Wow, damn that okay. So what was the process like getting flown out to meet with Trav? Like you and Faiyaz, like what was going through y'all's mind, like you know, how was that plane ride over? Like, I mean, we we were just like, I was like, damn, we lit, like, you know what I'm saying?

We lit. But like one thing that like shocked me was when when we were just in when we first met him, we was in his like in the uh the office, and he had a studio in the office, and we were just chilling on the couch. And he was like, So who be like making your beats and engineering? Like Trav was talking about that. And then Faiyaz. It's the same guy, actually. It's it's Woods. You feel me? And then Faiyaz's, like, Woods, my body just went into shock. I was like, oh my god, this is crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? You're like, hey, nice to meet you. Not even. I'm Woods. Hey, Trav. What's up, man. I made the beats, engineered him as well. Mr. Scott. Damn. That's gotta feel crazy to just even, you know, hear your name being spoken to someone like a Travis Scott who's like basically saying, like, this them shits are hard. Like, who's who's behind this? Who's who's doing this shit? Yeah. Who is behind this? Well, so you mentioned in another interview that like producers are low-key scientists. I want to unpack that.

I didn't really get, you know, an in-depth like breakdown on like what you mean by that. Um, man, we behind the boards. Feel me? Like, we in the cut. Mixing chemical. Mixing this shit together. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we putting this shit with bashing brains and shit. Like, feel me. We scientists. Yeah. Yeah. We scientists. We putting this shit together. It's a lot of experimentation. Yeah, it's got the knob, and this that knob you should be on the right, you know what I'm saying? You don't know where that shit is gonna supposed to be, but it's like if you put it right there, it's gonna be good. I'm imagining though, like, sometimes, of course, with any experiment, shit might go sideways, right? Of course. Yeah, that's how you get better. You got to fail. Yeah, it's gotta sound shitty before it sounds good. Yeah, bro. My first beats were ass. Very ass. Has to be. And you know, people would be like, bro, them bitches are hard. that shit was ass. Bro, my cousin, I gave my cousin my old laptop. He's like, what do you want to do with all this shit? All these beats from 2020 to 2029, come down.

I was like, bro, delete everything. Yo, how do you feel about that though? I think that going back to old shitty beats is actually dope sometimes. I think you can find nuggets of things, like, oh, I played this, I played this like key part that was super cool, and maybe you can flip it, or like I can even sample the whole beat, you know, and flip the sample, like the whole beat somehow. Um, so I try not to delete old beats a lot, but yeah, when they're ass, they're ass for sure. Like, if there's nothing there, you know. I really hope he didn't delete everything. Now that yeah. What, is it like Noah? Noah, did you delete everything? Did you delete everything? He didn't delete shit. I know he didn't delete shit. Cause the best person to sample is yourself. Yeah, you feel me? because you're not about to sue yourself. I I feel like that's at that point. I I'm just being lazy. Maybe. I mean, storage space ain't cheap either. Yeah, back to those hard drives add up. You got drives on drives. Add up. Yeah, no. Yeah. Um, so I you know, I thought it was interesting. Like, other than rap, like you seem, you know, at least from the interviews I've seen before, like, you seem to have like a pretty eclectic like music taste.

Like, do you think that that has been a strong suit for you versus producers who maybe like live and like die in the rap world only? You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, for sure. Like, I feel like I didn't grow up really on rap. Like, nigga, like when we we would go to the family reunion and shit, like we was listening to jazz. Like, we wasn't listening to rap. You know what I'm saying? I didn't really know rap because I I I knew rap because I was from Atlanta, and like there was like uh 106 in part and shit. Like, like that's how I knew about the the hot rap song, but I feel like I grew up on some whole different wave shit. Like, it wasn't rap, it was like that shit. Do you catch yourself like uh infusing elements of like other genres like that into the sound now? I try, I try. I try, like all I can do is like what sounds good, you know. Yeah, I think it happens subconsciously, whether you realize it or not. Yeah, like I'm not really trying to do it, like it just happens, like in a sense. Everything that producers make, it's we're just a sum of the all the shit we've listened to and what we think sounds good.

Yeah, I mean, unless you're like a Hollywood Cole who's like a big sampler, right? So he is like explicitly taking a jazz sample from a record from 1960 or 70 or whatever. But he probably listened to jazz growing up. No, no, no, for sure. I just mean like it sounds like this is a little more like you know, subconscious, like you said, of like maybe his you know creative like brain is taking elements from everything that he heard growing up, but he's not like flipping a jazz. sample, really. Without even knowing it. Yeah, he's just doing it. Yeah. So, you know, speaking of samples, like loop makers are catching like some heat recently, bro. I don't know if you've seen it in the news. There's there's a lot of, there's a lot of shade. CNN made a crazy story. There's a lot of shade. Okay, They're catching shade, they're catching shade, bro. Only by some people, you know why they're catching shade? Cause they don't got their business right. Yeah. Yeah, that is the biggest part of it. Like in your experience, you mentioned in you know some other uh interviews about like you do clearly like take loops from people. You're a big like you know, consumer of loops that you know that you use in your process.

Like, have you found any of that to be true where like loop makers can fuck the business up by being a little, you know? No, I I don't I I haven't had that experience because I tell them niggas what it is. You feel me? Like, you know, nigga, you ain't do shit for real for real. Okay, you made you you made the vibe. I I mean I've set the vibe, but it's like I I don't be disrespectful. I don't want to fuck nobody over, but it's like, bro, like I'm giving you the opportunity. You didn't do shit, bro. You just sent me a fucking email. Like, not even being disrespectful or anything because you started the vibe, but I'm saying though, it's like nigga, like, nigga, we ain't big yet. We ain't getting millions of dollars yet. Like, bro, you better take this bread and catch it that you good. Post that shit on Instagram and keep it pushing. Yeah, yeah. So this is actually an even bigger debate right now. If say that I send you a loop and it and it's all the melodics that you need, and you just add the drums. So the beat is like truly 50-50, but you get it placed with Faygo. That's 75 at that point.

Crazy, yeah. See, that's the big debate. Is placing it, it's like maybe I'm a guy that I can't place it. And if he could place it, is that worth something? I think it kind of is. I think it kind of is. Don't be backwards, nigga. You don't, send me a loop and then you place it. But if I did, you think I'd get 75%? I mean, that's that's under that's that's No. His brain was just like fuck you, Henry. I've never had to think about this because it's never happened to your point. I mean, at this point, like it's not reality. Yo, why is that though? That's crazy. Like, why don't loop makers play shit like that? Why are all the drum guys the ones that are gonna be like? The drum niggas be on it! Because the drum guys are the ones that are in the rooms and the loop. But why? That's crazy. That's the crazy thing. That's a crazy like. That's why. it's crazy. That's wild as fuck. The best loop makers are the are just the introverts. man. You said what? That's why they became loop makers though. That's why they're loop makers, because they're just they're such artists, they're just in their bedroom. I'm doing this shit, just pumping it out every day.

Without candles and everything. They're not going out. Shroom's high as shit. Like, ah, they're not going out to sessions and meeting people and getting phone numbers. They're just making art, yeah. What's up? It sucks for them, but that's that's hilarious. I think placing a beat is is worth something. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean 75 is kind of that I would that's pretty strong, but I respect it still. I mean, are are you gonna send loops to Woods now? I might still send Woods loops if he'll take them. I was still willing. I'm taking loops, but when I get this new computer, I'm I'm low-key, Mike. If that shit ain't crazy, I don't want it. I don't want it. I'm doing my own shit. Fuck it. That's how, bro, that's how niggas came up back in the day. Bro, this shit, like, it's just so many people involved. It's cutting out the money. Yeah. Yeah. I need the money. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the the biggest argument was around like that these loop makers who, to your point, typically 99% of the time are not the ones that are in the rooms with the relationships, placing the records, getting them on projects. There was this thing, like they end up then coming out of the woodworks being like, surprise, bitch, there's five of us.

Yeah, you know, that's the worst. My manager be like, bro, you gotta make your own loops. You gotta make your own beats. Nigga, you ain't gonna get paid like that. You know what I'm saying? Just like being unique. Nigga, like, it's crazy. Like, I was thinking about it. Like, if I have a number one song and only you produced it, you know how crazy that would be? Yeah. That's hardly... It's this hardly happens anymore. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. I would almost venture to guess that there is a minimum of two. If not on like number one records, you're talking like five, five writers slash producers. Yeah, like songwriters, producers. Think how brazy it would be that publishing check would be blouty. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But is it worth it if having five people makes the beat that much better and the song goes that much further? That's music. Like I love collaborating with people. Like I love doing that shit with people because people just bounce off ideas. There's energy. Like, yes, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to do this shit by myself. That shit lame.

I don't say, oh, I I understand like the bread is cool, but it's like I don't give a fuck about the bread. Like, literally, like, like if we doing this shit with your people, like, man, that shit goes a long way. You feel me? And there's more people, so that shit gonna spread a little bit more. Yeah. Yeah. And it kind of builds the morale too. Like, oh, we did this shit. Like, let's keep doing this. And I think it kind of goes back to what you were saying before of like having fun in the process. Yeah. Because to your point, like, let's just hypothetically say that you were able to make the beat all by yourself, get it placed, song goes great. Yeah, you're catching a nice publishing check. That shit's lonely. That's how niggas die. Like you get burnt out. Burnt out. Like they say, oh, I did this shit by myself. I have nobody to celebrate it with. That's lame. Yeah. Nobody want that shit. Buy yourself a cake. Yeah. Like, what? That shit sound that shit sound gay as hell. Like shit just sounds lame. Yeah, that that definitely is not as enjoyable, I feel like, even if the bread's slightly less, of course. Like to be able to do it with your people, be inspired by other people. Like, that's how it's gonna be like the long game, you know?

Because you might be able to do that with like one, two, three, however many songs, right? But like, yeah, you're gonna only be inspired by yourself. So much, right? That's So fucking weird. Yeah, that is and ideally, if you have one other person making beats with you, you should be able to make twice as many beats. If you have three other people you're working with, honestly, I feel like you should be able to make four times as many beats. I feel like that shit slowed me down. Really? Like, how so hella people in the room? Being able to well, maybe in the room, but if what if you just get sent a loop? That's incredible, and all you gotta do is add drums, and it's a hit. I'm saying though, I'm just saying, I feel like I make a beat faster by myself than with other people. Yeah, because you don't know what their what their work speed is like, you don't know what they're feeling, you know what I'm saying? But they might have that one idea that's like definitely, definitely, but it might take longer too. Yeah, no, that's interesting. I have that's a hint. I have a question in the in the rampage coming up related to that. So, you know, speaking of songs going crazy, you did have co-producers on this record, but holy shit, lot of me by Lil Tech is almost at 150 mil on Spotify alone. Did you did you think that that record was gonna go as crazy as it has?

You know what's so crazy? Like, we I was in the studio with internet money, and like I was just in that bitch like for like a week at record plant in LA. And I was with this nigga named Rio. Yep. shout out Rio. Shout out Rio. And we were just cooking up, bro. We was just having fun, like experimenting, twitching, like doing it, whatever. Like, and like, like, we was working with Tech like a few, like a few days out of that week, and like it's crazy. I knew that shit was so fire because nigga, we didn't that was the only time I heard it in that session, and we were like, bro, tell we got all the other bounces, but like that song didn't, we didn't get a bounce for it. And we was like, bro, I was like, bro, this shit's crazy. Like, and then I they told me that shit was dropping, and that shit just catch fire. But like, so you you had a a feeling then. Yeah, I had a feeling because I was like, bro, this shit's I didn't know it at the time, but I was like, bro, this shit kind of hard. Like, shit is crazy. Like, we need this. And then I was telling Rio, he was like, bro, Edgar got it, Edgar got it. I'm like, bro, tell that nigga to send that shit.

He's never sent it. But then like it came out, I was like, okay, where? And then that shit just bing. So you didn't hear it from the time that it was recorded until it came out. Like I got hurt. I heard it, and then I that's uh, and that was it. It was out, it was over with. Wow. Yeah fuck Edgar for holding that shit. Nah, nah, nah, I understand why he maybe he knew something. Oh. Oh nah, he ain't no shit. Nah, he could have said it. I was like buying into this conspiracy theory, like Oh, maybe Edgar knew something. Maybe. Damn. No, but so so how did how did that record come to life? You know, you mentioned obviously being out there with internet money. Like, like how how did you get linked up with those guys? And like, is that how you met Tecca, or did you already know Tecca from Faygo? No, So um Did you meet Nick? Yeah, that's my boy. Fuck with Nick. Damn, how did I first have you met Ryder? I like Ryder. I know everybody. Ryder is low-key my favorite in the group. For real? He's dope, man. Ryder's hard. He be out the cut.

I think people don't know about Ryder. I bet I think I met him like once, type shit at a party. He lives in like the middle of fucking nowhere. Yeah, but um, I mean, like, I think I don't think that was the first time I met Tecca, but oh no, the first time I met Tecca was 2017, 2018. And this is before he even blew up. He had probably like 10K, 20K. Like, how'd you meet him? I was I was fucking with my boy Danny Wolf. Shout out Danny Wolf. He's been on my ass to get him on the podcast. He's back in town. He was out of town for a while, but yeah, he's back. That boy was out of town. Yeah. But he I was just fucking with him because I was like, at that point, like him and Dave were kind of like my mentors in a sense. Shout out David Morris. So, like, um, he said we can't I went to LA with him. Oh, actually, was I in? I was I was living in LA at the time, and he he, like when he came to visit, I'd just go come over, go come to like LA and stay with him type shit. And then like um, he was like, bro, I got this new artist, Tekka, bro.

Like, you fire, bro. This is before anything, bro. Like, before he had ransom, bro, way before Ransom. This is before he was only he's only dropping on SoundCloud at the time. And bro, he just we went to the studios. It was just like crazy because like I knew the nigga, but I didn't really know the nigga. And then we link back up a few years later, and then it's like we make some crazy shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Shout out to Danny Wolf for having borderline the best AR ear on the planet. Like this dude can find talent before their shit and see it in them like from the beginning. I feel like he's done that multiple times in his career, and like that's what makes I think Danny so special. And it sounds like that's what you have as a goal for yourself too is to like discover talent early on and like help build a sound with them. Cause that's that's like that's how you're gonna be relevant for years and years and years. We got 30 careers. I have 30, We have 30 careers. What do you mean by that? I mean, like producers have 30 careers because they can just go to the next artist. Artists have one career.

Oh wow. So I can I can, nigga like I can go work with this nigga, but then I got this nigga. This nigga might flop, but this nigga gonna go brazy, and then this nigga, you know what I'm saying? He just ricochets like a fucking domino effect. Yeah, it is interesting. You're like, yeah, it's like basically, you know, you're a cat that has nine lives, but I guess 30 in your in your mind. 30 lives, yeah, 30 lives, yeah. That's that's interesting. And yeah, coming up with an artist is more valuable, I think, than just chasing the guy that's already at the top. Yeah, that shit, that shit dead. They already have they're already established. You're not gonna be remembered. Exactly. There's no story. story, there's no documentary. Yeah, oh, I just started working with Drake and I fucking went to the top. There's no one more time interview. Nigga, I I know I know niggas was on that last project with 2,000 followers, and then niggas are not getting recognized. Yeah, they made the loop. Yeah, shout out the loop makers. So, you know, we we hinted at nav earlier. Are you about to go on the Faygo tour opening up for Nav?

Why would I not? Yeah, exactly. Because you mentioned that like becoming a better DJ is like one of your goals. Is that still something we're trying to do I mean, yeah, for sure. That's one thing. I I really like uh I was I was I was in LA just now, and I was with like my niggas, and like the OG was like, bro, you really remind me of Metro Boomin. And like Who does shows himself? You feel me? He DJs his own shit. Yes. Nigga, you're getting paid to play your own music. Yes. Nigga, that's a bag. One of the best shows I ever went to, it was like an EDM show at like a go-kart, like bowling, like crazy super center. And it was like Ravers. Metro Boomin's the headliner. Everyone's going insane. This guy brings out future unannounced out of nowhere. People are losing. their minds. I'm saying. Like, nigga, like, nigga, being able to have pull, like, I can tell, I can call artists right now and like pull up with me right now. I want to play your shit.

Like, we finna go brazy. Like, that shit goes a long way. Like, imagine Woods is like a headlining DJ and he brings out Faiyaz. When, When, when, when I do that. When. Oh, yeah. No if shit, Henry. No, no imagining. I didn't say if. I'm just saying imagine when it happened. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Yeah, Yeah. That's what had the win. yeah. Henry on the three, not no E. Nigga. Someone already took that, so I had to change it. So, you know, take us back to like the first show that that you and Faiyaz did, though. Like, how bad was it in comparison to like where y'all are at now? The crazy thing is that you asked me how bad it was and not even how good it was. That means you already seen it. So that means you already had a judgmental uh aspect about it. It's a loaded question. That was a very bad one. That was very loaded. Let me rephrase that. No baked potato. Let me rephrase that. Hey Woods, how'd the first show with Faiyaz go? That shit was ass. No, I'm just playing. It was our first show. Yeah. I that was my like, I didn't that was like my like real time DJing. I DJ'd before, but like that was like my real time.

I just feel like we were just, we were still, we're still like right now, we're still learning. And it's like, it's nothing wrong with that, because that shit was still fucking piped up. Niggas, thousands of people outside can't even get in. They have their own concert in the streets. Yeah. No, it's facts. Feel me? So it's like, who cares? Like, so was that the Atlanta show? That was the Atlanta show, the SoundCloud show. God. Yeah. Dude, the footage from that look. Bro, them niggas was having a concert in the street. Yeah. I didn't even see that. I know. That looked, yeah. Like I was talking to a friend who was like, Yeah, I think we're gonna try and go to this like Sofago SoundCloud show. And then we all saw on the internet, like what was happening, and we were like, Yeah, no, we're not going. Like, you know, because it was just like good luck getting in, like there was no chance. We couldn't even get everybody in that we fuck with. Yeah, wow. Damn, that's how you know. That's like how niggas was getting mad, like, bro. You got me outside. I'm like, bitch, we can't even get nobody in. They locked this shit down. Like so, so how do you improve though, as like a you know, DJ artist, uh, like, you know, duo, right? Like, what did are you rehearsing a lot?

Like, are you just talking through things? Like, how do you improve. I think the main part comes for me. So, like, we haven't really been doing shows like that since like the summer. So, my main thing was just DJing other elsewhere, like clubs, like parties, events, like getting on the mic, like just like experience having my experience. Cause like if I'm experienced and I know what to do, then it's just gonna make the show better because I can just tell him, or just like we can create something better, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's interesting. Like, I'm almost listening to you talk about it, uh, as far as like almost like the producer in you. You're kind of like the conductor, right? And you and you gotta set the vibe. I'm I'm the vibe setter. Like, when it when I like when we first do the show, who's talking? It's me. I gotta get this shit hyped up. Yeah, yeah. Damn. Period. No, I've I've never really considered it that way, but it. Are y'all motherfuckers ready to see Sofaga? I mean, yeah, because and he's not like motherfucker. We not at the substantial point where he's a fucking superstar, but like And nigga, he can just walk on a stage and then niggas just go fucking brazy. I gotta like hype this shit up.

Like, nigga, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. If I'm having fun, they're gonna be like, oh yeah, we got we gotta get lit. It's funny, right? Like, as the artist's career goes up this way, like the requirements from the DJ probably go down, right? It's like you could probably say I don't even got to do that much. I gotta I do much, I gotta do all everything in the beginning. But towards the end, yeah, I'm you got it. Just Press play at the right time. Yeah, like man, you know, Future's DJ and like Travis's DJ probably have it like mad easy, right now. Nah, best DJ in the game is Chase B. Shout out, Chase B. Shout out. Whose DJ is that? Travis's? Yeah. Okay. Nice. Yeah, like so, you know, do you study like other DJs and shit to learn? I be studying, I be studying nigga. I you know, I learned best in person. So I like I like try to like I know a lot of DJs, so I really just pull up on them and just like watch them, like, don't even say nothing. Just watch them. How much easier is DJing than producing an engineering? It's not even that easy. You don't think so? Because I I produced an engineer first and then I picked up DJing. And to be a great DJ, you gotta know how to but yeah, but like, you know, high cut filters, like okay.

I know how to fader. But it's also like it's a rhythm. It's a rhythm. For sure. It's the reading the crowd, too. It's being in the moment. You gotta do a bunch of shit at one time. That's the biggest part for me. It's like producer engineer, you're you're in your bubble in the studio, you have all the time in the world. And it's more it's more. DJ's a live setting. It's more precise. You can fuck up, you can make a fucking bad, you can, you can make a bad beat and then fix it. And like, but it takes time. But like when you're DJing, that shit's instant. Don't play a bad beat. Don't play a bad song. Don't do it. Yeah, yeah, don't you? That shit is more precise. Yeah, don't say something stupid. Yeah, like it's more, it's more like it's harder. It's very harder. Yeah. It's the live aspect of it for sure. That puts more pressure. The margin for error is like razor thin. Yeah. But like you better not fuck up. Technically, though, technically, it's way to me, it's way easier than like trying to get a good clean master on a song. No, because when you're making when you're making a beat, you could be by yourself and fuck up and refix it. That's what I mean, technically. But like since the live aspect of it, you cannot fuck up, bro.

That's what makes it harder. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You twist one wrong knob, Henry. You're fucked. Unless you like twist it back right now. So obviously, you know, you're still grinding, you're nowhere close to where you want to be in your career. But I do think that you've obviously seen, you know, a good level of success up to this point. How have you dealt with that? Like personally, you know, mentally, right? Like, how have you coped with you know the success that you've seen thus far? At one point, I was really tweaking. How so? I was just tweaking, like, just getting caught up. Spending money. Spending money, getting in the like getting like knowing what the life is type shit, like just doing certain shit. And I it was very distracting. And this is like, I like, I feel like this like last year, beginning end of last year, and like right now, I'm like, I'm like over it. I'm like, okay, I already know what this shit is. Like, I don't give a fuck.

Like, I just want to keep going. Yeah, I feel like that's almost inevitable, right? Like, cause it's like you're you're entering the game and you're seeing all these niggas with money, but that's that takes steps. You feel me? So it's like I'm there, but I'm not there yet. You get what I'm trying to say? So you're just there for the vibe, but you're not setting the vibe. I'm I'm trying to set the vibe. Yeah. It it almost reminds me of you know, shout out to my friend from college, Andrew Lindsay. He had a lot of money. He came from a very wealthy family, right? We'd go out to the bar, he'd throw his credit card down, buy the whole bar fucking shots, borderline, right? I found myself spending money like I fucking had it like Andrew. And like my mom would be like, bro, like we, you know, we gave you a little bit of money for college to like help with you know the this the expenses, but like what the fuck are you spending $500 out at you know, top of the hill bar? Like, what the fuck are you doing? And what is fireball? No, but but for real, like it kind of reminds me of that of just like you get caught up in this lifestyle that like you know at some point can't afford dumb nigga, stupid. Shout out to Barry.

I think Barry was the one that said, like, um, the worst thing you can do for like an a bubbling artist is to cut them the check. That's where shit starts going downhill. Yeah, the money does fuck it up for like one big influx of cash. The first I mean, if you're a smart person, the first the first bread, it's endless bread, but when you first get that money, I mean, I fucked that shit up. That's just long gone. Nigga, I was broke, negative. Ah, ass out, nigga. What the fuck? No, not ass out. That's kind of weird. But you know what I'm saying? We get what you were saying. It's a metaphor. Yeah. Pause. Yeah. But no, that's tough, man. So yeah, for everyone out there that like when you see a level of success, like try and find the willpower within. No, no, no, no. Just invest. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. When you first get that bread, tweak. Tweak out, tweak out, have a moment. Have a moment. And then once you tweak out and you're broke again, you're like, okay, I know what to do. That's when you're that's when you know for sure. That's when you know, you gotta learn from your mistakes.

You're gonna tweak. Yeah, it's fine to tweak. Yeah, it's you're living life, but it's like it's a lesson. You're gonna get the bread again. Yeah, it's how much you want it though? Yeah. Yeah, and I do think you're right. There's no amount of like us telling people what it is and like what to do until you do see it. You're gonna have to fuck up for yourself. You got to live it. You got to fuck up. I learned best through my mistakes. Yeah. That's true. So, you know, it's it's basically top of the year. What are you looking most forward to, you know, for 2023? Um right now, I'm not chasing placements. I'm chasing, I'm trying to execute three three projects this year. Bubbling artists, just low key artists. Yeah, like but like with my name on it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Anyone you want to shout out that we can look forward to? ZZZ, HVN Heaven, motherfucking Chulo, motherfucking NDOD, nigga. That's oh yeah, that's who I'm working with now.

We got a session, motherfucking all week NDOD. That's who I'm pushing next. Yeah. Z Z Z got it. He good. You were playing some ZZZ before this interview and Fire. Shit was going off. He's tough. He's tough. Shout out to ZZZ. Yeah. Awesome, man. Well, yo, we've entered a final segment of the podcast. Henry, take us away. Uh oh. No, Noah knows what this is. I don't know if Woods knows. But this is the rapid fire rampage. I got a freestyle. Yep. Fuck. 16. Here we go. A 16. I'm just kidding. Henry, you're fucking table beats. Hey, hey. Hey, I'm not finna freestyle. I'm just trying to get on beats now. What you talking about? Yeah, I'm trying to get this money now. I don't even know what I'm talking about, but I'm freestyling. Ah. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. All right. That's a good way to kick off the rampage. But no, it's a three-part rampage. I'm gonna start off with some short answer questions. We're gonna move into a this or that, where I give you two choices and you pick one, and we're gonna end it off with the word association, where I just say one word and you say the first word back right off the top of your head. Okay.

So starting with part one, backwoods on the One More Time Podcast, episode 88. First question, I want to just pop it off and get real deep here. How are you doing? Blessed. Woods, you can only eat three flavors of wings for the rest of time. Only three flavors? What are they? Fucking shit. I'm about to mix two of them together. Hot lemon pepper. Sure. With a garlic parmesan. Is that one flavor? Or just are those the three? Those are three. Okay. But I mix two of them together. I guess that counts. Hot lemon pepper. No, I think hot. No, we're gonna we're gonna throw the flag. Hot lemon pepper is only one. No, no, it's not, it's two. That's one flavor. It's two. Well, then they're separate. No, because you can have an option that you can get either or or you can have an option to get two of them. You're dictating my questions. I'm dictating them. Okay. We'll take it. I love being a third party to this. Woods, if you had three extra ears, where would you put them?

Three extra ears. I wouldn't even have them on me. They gotta be somewhere. Where on your body? No, no. I'm going to like throw them somewhere, and then I can like, you know how I'm like a bang boomerang. effect? Like a tracking device. Like on some like Thor shit. Like I can throw them there, throw them there, and then I can hear everything that's going around around me. And some spy shit? And then whenever I'm gonna try and leave, I can just, ah, some air tag shit. Yeah, facts. Okay. Take it. I like that. I like that. Woods distract describe your dream studio. Dream studio? It's gotta be like in the ocean. Yeah. In the ocean. Bro, you gotta you gotta take us, you gotta take a boat to get there. Okay. And then you gotta get the fucking motherfucking suit. what the uh the scuba diving suit? You gotta you gotta go down there yourself. Oh, we're in the ocean. Shit. Underwater. Literally. On the bottom. Bikini bottom. Yeah, hell nah, we ain't find that shit. I like it. That's dope. You are a ghost.

Okay. Forever tied to one location in the afterlife. Where do you haunt? Everywhere. Just fucking everyone's day up. You gotta pick one location. No, everywhere. Just you said you said one location. You gotta pick one location. Everywhere. Everywhere. That's your location. Everywhere. Earth. He's really challenging you. Earth. He's challenging you here, Henry. I don't have I don't have the stipulations to these questions, so you know. You need to get real specific. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's gonna find every fucking loophole he can. He's doing good so far. Very witty. I should have said the universe. Yeah. You can limit yourself at the end to Earth. Yeah, fuck. Bro, Hell nah. the universe. I don't want to be stuck here. Why don't the Martians get haunted? Damn, you're right. Woods, what is the greatest physical pain you have ever felt? The greatest physical pain. That's fucked up. Yeah. Damn. Um greatest physical pain. Okay, that shit really came in clutch, right? I still don't know what I'm talking about.

Uh the fate the greatest physical pain. Death. You've felt that before? You have to have felt. Oh, I have to feel it. Yeah, like you've actually felt it. I can't witness it. Oh, no, I'm just kidding. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. That was that was dark. That was. I'm not emo. When did you hurt yourself? Oh, chill. I'm not I'm not cutting shit. No, not yours. Not on purpose. Jesus, Henry, get this rampage on track, bro. It's usually me fucking it up. I'll try it. Okay, greatest physical pain I've ever fucking felt. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're looking more for like broken bones or like oh, okay, okay. I don't know. I mean, or whatever, but um uh like your girl punched you, maybe or something. I don't know. Like yo, chill. I'm just saying. Chill. Giving you examples. Hypothetical, not even the greatest, just a time that you physically got injured. So you want to see when I got hurt? Anytime, like, yeah, just a little bit You want to you want to you want to hear my downsides of my life?

Quick anecdote. He gets off to this shit, man. You know, he gets off. That's a weird way of putting it. Yeah, why'd you say it like that? He gets off. That's bad. This rampage is out of control, guys. All right, somebody get us back on track. All right. Um when I was little, this is crazy. I don't I didn't really get hurt, but I used to jump off like you know how like apartments, like you go up the stairs and it's like a balcony and shit. I would just jump off the balconies. Okay, okay. Take that. We go. Finally, finally we got there. We landed that plane. That shit was fucking Mayday. It was up there. Yeah. Woods, what is the first day of the week? The first day of the week? Sunday. Yes, sir. Oh my god. I'm starting to feel like I'm in the minority. You are because we're team Sunday. I'm Sunday. He just says Monday. I'm team Monday. Like it's definitely Sunday. No, I mean, that's how you prepare yourself for Monday. Exactly. It's the prep day is the first day. nobody work on Sunday for real. For a reason. Because it's the last day of the week. No, it's the beginning of the week. And then Monday. It starts to regroup.

It's a regroup. Okay. Disagree. Woods, you can only wear one outfit for the rest of time. What is it? Well, I suppose I say like a check suit. I like it, I like it. You have to get rid of three states. Which states do you delete? Delaware. Gone. Massachusetts. Gone. Peace. Idaho. Gone. See ya. Thought he was going all small states, and then he threw it in Idaho. Got rid of all the potatoes. Yeah. I like it. No more fries. Woods, how many gobstoppers would fit in a whiskey barrel? Gobstoppers in a whiskey barrel? Probably like 3,000. Last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? Shit. Part one. I like, I like, I like, I like shit bit or shit bit. Shit bit. Okay. I will take it. Never heard of it, but I like it. Combo word. That was a terrible part one, Henry. It was okay. It was out of control. It just had like glaring.

It was out of control. That was lit, though. Marks on it, but it was good. No, it was most of them were actually really good. And then there were a couple that just like kind of ruined it. And then I took it weird. I got, you know, it was. There's two more parts. We can still make up for this. We can improve this. I want to keep it going. Let's go. Starting with the going moving on to the this or that. Let's see if we can improve here. Rapping or singing? Singing. Claps or snares? Snare. Delay or reverb. Damn. He's tweaking. You need both. Delay. Delay. Because honestly, nah, because reverb don't delay don't sound good without reverb. Reverb? EQ. I said, fuck your two choices. Long intro or short intro? Long intro with rapping. Like it has to, it can't just be silent. You gotta like start without the beat going. That shit always hard.

It always wins. It always wins. It's a nice little cheat code. for sure. It just builds up. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like games and nightmares. Yes. Tee Grizzley, one of the drops like two minutes into the song so far. Hot chocolate or chocolate milk? Hot chocolate. Italian food or Mexican food? Seafood. Bro, he's not playing by the this or that rules. Permanently sweaty or permanently itchy. Comfortable. God would make 10 nice beats in 10 hours or two incredible beats in 10 hours. Grammys. I think that's the second choice then. Okay, Nah. Two incredible beats for sure. Yeah. Take your time and make them hot. 10 beats is ass. Only make beats with your feet or give up 808s forever. He said, what was the second choice? Give up 808s forever.

You can never use 808s again, or you gotta just start doing putting in the footwork. Making beats with your feet. Make beats with your feet or give up 808s forever. Give up 808s forever. They're gone. Yeah, we nigga. That shit gonna still bang. Yeah. Softly. We still got kicks. We do. Yeah. Synth bass. Start producing exclusively country music or leave the music industry forever. Man, I'm about to get a cowboy hat. I like it. Last one of the this or that. Get the FL Studio logo tatted on your face or switch to logic. I already know logic, so I'm doing that. Let's go. Logic, baby. All right. That was much better. Much better. That was an improvement. You picked it up that round. It's all gonna boil down to this last part, though. Although he did kind of trash your whole two choice thing, but like, you know, No, it's cool. it's cool. It's cool. He did take option C, which didn't exist. I really felt that though, in my in my soul. Yeah.

And that is what we're going for. We could tell. The soul answers. Yes. That's acceptable. It's all gonna boil down to this very final part. This is the word association. I'm gonna say a word, and you just give me the first thing off the top of your head. Sex. Okay, let me say the word first. It might be an answer for a couple things. We know what's on his mind. Any word you say that sex. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Alright. Starting as always with hip hop. The first word that comes to my head when it comes to hip hop. Nigga. Oh, Jesus. Oh, we're so fucked. I'm gonna fall. I made this shit explicit. You gotta be TV mature to watch this motherfucking podcast. Definitely, definitely. YouTube demonetization approaches.

Moving on. Moving on. Here we go. It's good to hear. I'm crazy. It's okay, bro. It's good to get it. No, this is great. I want to be me. You want me to be me? You're being great. I want to be my best, my best self. Living my best life. We'll see how you finish up this word association. Beef. Cheese. Green. Bean. frog. Green. I like that. Flipped it. Ass. Ass? Ass. Ass. S. S. S. A S S. S. B B L. 2023. Achievements. Matrix. Illusion. Mom. Caregiver.

Balloon. Pop. Ops. Shot. Distortion. Lonely. God. Universe. Atlanta. Home. Judge. Judy. Lil. Bibby. Crypto. Currency. Podcast. One more time. One more. Good job, Henry. Back Woods. Let's go. This has been an interview with Backwoods. As always, please like, comment, and subscribe if you fuck with this interview. We appreciate the support. And until next week, Henry, what are we doing? Getting out of here. We're getting the fuck out of here. Peace.