Hollywood Cole Interview: Locking in With Boi-1da | Sampling 101 -

Kobe didn't become Kobe without shooting a thousand jump shots, you know. So I just look at everything and just like practice, man. Going to the studio, even just downloading samples, studying other people on YouTube, you know, just staying in the gym and just being consistent. Spend a rock, spin it one more time, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm your host, Playback Ben here with my co-host. H3, aka, according to TikTok, The White Ice Cube. H3, who do we have in the hot seat today, my friend? Welcoming in on episode 79 of the One More Time Podcast. Legendary singer-songwriter, it's Jason Derulo. Jason DeRulo. That's crazy. Have you ever gotten that? Never. Oh man. Jason Derulo is crazy. There's a first time for everything. I've never got that. That's crazy. Yeah. We have one of the hottest producers out right now. He's on a frickin' rampage. We got Hollywood Cole in the motherfucking house.

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Yes, sir. what up? What up, what up? Stupid Cole. Hey, man. Just out here, you know, trying to get to it. I like that tag though. Thank you. Thank you. You're absolutely getting to it. I mean, for those that aren't familiar, he's brought you BB King Freestyle by Lil Wayne and Drake. He's brought you Isaiah Rashad's headshots, Meek Mill, me, JID, System, G Herbo, One More Time Alum, Suave, Snoop Dogg, Cordae. I could go on for the whole episode, but I'll spare you. Go look up his credits. You're on fire right now. Thank you. Like, for sure. Usually, if I have a producer on, I might have to scroll a little bit to like see some recent placements or whatever. I mean, it is just, it's it's loaded, man. I mean, you are just like hit after hit, it seems. I mean, with all this momentum, how do you capitalize right now? Um, what's the plan of attack, right? I mean, I think it's just staying in the gym, you know? Kobe didn't become Kobe without shooting a thousand jump shots, you know. So I just look at everything and just like practice, man.

Going to the studio, um, even just download the samples, uh, studying other people on YouTube, you know, just staying in the gym and just being consistent. Um, I think that's very important. So, and I'm and God, bro, I'm I'm blessed, you know. Like I have I'm I'm very blessed, so I have a lot of good people in my corner. But yeah, just consistency and and yeah, man. It's kind of like if something's working, you know, maybe don't change the formula, right? If it's not broken, like shit's been working. Do you feel like surprised as to how things are going now? Or did you always see this vision for yourself? Like, you know, what I mean, is it shocking to you where you where you've gotten? No, it was supposed to happen. That's how I feel. Um, I think this was supposed to happen for me. And like I said, I just uh very thankful and I'm, I'm in a very good position. I'm very blessed. Um, but it was supposed to happen, man. This was this was written, you know. I was supposed to be doing music, you know what I mean? So like I said, I'm thankful and I'm just trying to keep keep rocking. It's crazy. I feel like he has this perfect blend of like humble but yet like I'm born to do this shit mentality, which I feel like in the artistry and the producer, just creative scene. I feel like you do have to have that humility to not come across as some you know arrogant prick, right?

But at the same time, you gotta be yeah, yeah, yeah. He mentioned Kobe. It's like he didn't just say that because he doesn't feel yeah. I mean, yeah, you gotta. I mean, I'm I'm very laid back, very humble for sure, but it's just like man, you gotta you gotta pop your shit a little bit sometimes, you know? So Absolutely. we're talking to Kobe of this producer shit. Yeah, yeah, not yet. We getting there though. We getting there. We get it. I mean, just to know that that's the that's the goal. That's that's what we're working towards, yeah. Yeah, for sure. So Rhythm Roulette was filmed. I'll let you speak on this. Yeah, me and Shout out Wara. Used to be Wara from the neighborhood. Shot a little episode of Rhythm Rhythm Roulette here. Well, he they shot it with him. I happen to be here. Literally in this, in this place. This room. Yeah. That's fine. Probably like seven or eight years ago. Okay. That's dope. Yeah. And so your episode with with Mass Appeal Rhythm Roulette just dropped. For those that aren't familiar, quick summary of like the format of the show. Yep.

So basically, um, what they do is with producers, they'll take you to a record store, you'll be in LA, New York, wherever you're at. Um, and basically they blindfold you. And when they blindfold you, you just gotta kind of randomly pick records and you gotta choose three records, and then you gotta go back to the studio and try to cook up some heat without knowing what you're grabbing. Just a great format. So cool. Yeah. How did it feel going from assumedly watching that you know series to having your episode? It was crazy. It was crazy. It was uh definitely one of my goals, and I definitely achieved that goal. And it was um it was just an experience, you know? Like it was just a crazy experience to be like, man, like I remember watching like a cardiac rhythm roulette and like a cardo. Cardiacs is one of the best. Crazy. Um cardo, uh, cardiac, um, boy wonder, just a lot of cats, and then just like for them to want to reach out and want to work with me was crazy, you know. Had you already been sampling vinyl, because for me and Wara, it was like, oh shit, like Mass Appeal hit us up. Let's go find a record player and like learn how to Yeah, nah, I'm uh I I'm honestly I'm a I'm I get it, honestly. Man, I'm a soul hip hop cat um yeah to the core.

So like I came up on like Dilla, like Dilla is one of my favorite producers. So yeah, definitely uh already have vinyl. So I was I wasn't um wasn't a rookie to the vinyls at all. You were a natural, you were just born for that segment. For sure. Yep. Did you hit them up being like, yo, I'm a huge like fan of the format, and this is a goal of mine, like you mentioned, or did it, did it come inbound? Um we had uh tried to hit some people a while ago, but it kind of organically happened. Um they kind of just like reached out after we hit them like a long time ago, but at the time it wasn't, you know, wasn't time for that. And then just kind of circled back and I got blessed to do one. I mean, they saw the motion, they were like, oh shit, that DM we left him on on red like two years ago, whatever, probably should reply to. We appreciate you reaching out, Hollywood. yeah, it was dope for sure. So he casually had reason. I don't know if you even got to catch the episode yet, but he casually had reason pull up for his episode. Casual, shout out TD. Wow, yeah, and my guy

and Reason casually dropped the fact that you have like 60% of his upcoming album. My guy. that's my guy. We got jams. We got jams. Do we have a release date for that album? Uh nah, not yet. Can we get the exclusive? Get like a title, the name of it, maybe? I don't know. Okay. It's not his project. No, for sure, for sure. We're always fishing for So what do you love most about Reason? Because obviously you had a say in him pulling up. Clearly, you guys have a good relationship. What about Reason? Um, he's just a he's a real rapper, you know. Like I said, I come from like the hip hop shit, like the tribe and and the and the Dilla and um just hip hop in general. So like Reason, he's a he's a he's a real rapper. And uh coming from from LA, man, he's he's got he's got bars, you know. And he um he's next, bro. Like out of that camp, man. They got Zay, they got Doechii, they got a lot of great, great artists. But reason is Reason is definitely dope, man. He's definitely one of the ones, you know. So how'd y'all first link. And we just um we just have a good chemistry.

So we uh we first linked. That was when this was around the time I want to say when I was going out to LA and I first met Zay, I want to say. And um, I went to this camp that they did a couple years ago. Um, and we had like a session one time, and then like man, from that session, we just kind of like we just kick it. Like it would be more than just like being in the studio. We go to like hookah spots and kick it and like go get some drinks and food and stuff like that. So I'm real big on just like organic like relationships and you know, just stuff like that, because it makes for better music, you know. Yeah, how slept on is the like let's actually get to know each other outside of the work environment, which is the studio for you guys. I feel like that's like still slept on so much. No, I think that's a I think that's a key, man, especially for me being um keeping my home base in Atlanta. Um, and people people think I live in LA. So like for me, it's just like man, I try to nurture and curate those relationships. And because I don't I I don't live in LA, so I can't just pull up on you like that, you know. So I just think it goes for better music when I can just like okay, Cole's a cool cat.

Like, we kicked it, we had some tequila, like he plays Call of Duty, you know, like all that type of stuff, and we and we vibe. So with me not being in LA, it just makes for like better, um, it's a better, better relationship. I think all the best artist producer, you know, combos are all just super tight, right? Yeah, they're I mean, they're always hanging out outside of the studio. And you and and I know you're not gonna you're not gonna be able to build a relationship with everybody, but certain people that are supposed to be in your life that will they'll be in your life, you know. So it's all good. So for people that say sampling is easy, what's your what's your rebuttal? Um sampling is not easy. It's definitely not easy. Uh it's sometimes this this is what I'll say. I think with sampling, um, it takes a lot to really try to find a verse, a hook, a bridge, and things like that. And I mean, like I was we were talking about earlier. Sometimes you can basically just loop a sample, you know, you can kind of do that. Um, sometimes you don't need to loop a sample, sometimes you need to flip it and chop it and reverse it and stuff like that.

But sampling is not it's not easy, man. It takes a it takes a certain kind of ear to be creative and um make it your make it your sound, you know. Like it takes a lot to find like a Led Zeppelin record and turn that into like an RB record, you know, or like turn that into like a uh a hip-hop type beat. So um to answer your question, no, it's not, it's definitely not not easy at all. What's your experience though for you personally? Because I think you mentioned you do cook up from scratch from time to time. Obviously, you're a big sampler, but what what's your creative experience like between the two, would you say? Um I mean, now I've been I've been blessed to be able to get like a lot of uh sample makers that are sending me like loops and stuff. So um that's basically like samples, but the royalty-free. Yeah, so that's that's been a blessing. But um, I I I've I've been getting back into like making beats from scratch, like because I know how to play the keys a little bit, like I know how to play some chords and stuff, so just trying to get better at chords, but um, yeah, it's I've been trying to go 50-50, like 50 on actually sampling and using sample people that people that make samples and then 50% trying to you know make some stuff from scratch. I like that.

I like that because there's something to be said about you know owning a hundred percent of a beat, but there's also something to be said about just not having any limits on your creativity. Yeah, but I agree with that, but collabor collaboration is is is a great thing, you know? For sure. So I'm I'm not I'm not gonna be able to do that. How many producers is too many on a beat? I think like five and six, that's a lot of that's a lot of Four is okay. I kind of think three is like four, maybe. Um, yeah, I mean, it just depends. Like, every it just depends. It just depends. It depends. But I think that I think that five producers is a lot. For sure. Five producers is a lot, you know. So how do you like to go about sampling? Like, are you a big I'm going to the record store and splurging? are you uh you already have something like you know, I'm trying to walk through because I've never, of course, sampled anything and then you know, made a beat out of it, right? So, like what is it for those that have never done that either? Yeah, walk them through kind of like what what is that process like? Yeah, I mean, you could eat it's I mean, we have access to a lot of different um mediums. So it's just like you can go to the record store, you can go to criminal records and pick up some records.

You could pick up a James Brown and a uh, I don't know, Anita Baker record, but you could also just go on YouTube, you know. So yeah, it kind of just depends, man. I have I've been I've been starting to collect vinyls. Cannon, uh, when I used to intern, I remember Cannon told me, man, he was like, man, you need to start getting into like collecting vinyls. So ever since he told me that, this was like this was yeah, a couple years ago when I was interning. But um, yeah, I started collecting vinyls and got a record. You were interning just a couple of years ago. That's when that was? Yeah, so I I well, I interned, I started interning when I when I moved to Atlanta, I moved to Atlanta in 2016, the spring summer of 2016. I started interning that summer. Yeah. Bro, you're going crazy for like being in the scene for such a short period of time. Holy shit. I I for some reason thought that it was a lot longer of like a span since you'd moved here and not even. It's been like what, like, what's that like five years? Five, six years. Six years. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It's not that much.

And I interned for like two, two of them. So two and a half or something like that. Yeah. So do you have something in mind though when you want to sample? Are you like, I need to find this. type? Right? Yeah, it just depends. It depends on how I'm feeling. Like sometimes I might be like, man, I need to I need to sample some shit. Like for real. So it just it kind of just depends on how I'm feeling that day. Or sometimes you hear something in the wild and you're like, and you gotta remember that for later. You hear something like, oh my god, I gotta sample that later. And you make a note in your phone. Shazam it. Yeah. Absolutely. Does that happen a lot where you're just like living your life and hear some shit? You know what it was? I was just in LA. Um this was I just got back from LA on Sunday, and uh I was at this Lebanese restaurant and they were playing some shit. Oh already, this is amazing. They were playing some shit. The music is so fire at like Lebanese like hookah lounges and shit. I was like, dog, what is this? Some different scales and shit. Got the Shazam out, and I was like, this is crazy. I haven't I haven't uh downloaded the sample yet to mess with it, but yeah, that's the last thing I just Shazam was I was in LA. That's it.

Lebanese restaurant, Yep. I wonder if that's in like a Phrygian scale, it's gotta be in some kind of way. probably, yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah, but I was weird. Everyone's like, what the fuck is Phrygian? Shout out to everyone who knows what a Phrygian scale is. So, like, you know, when you do decide to use that Lebanese restaurant sample, right? You load it up, then what happens, right? Like, because you said you could just loop it. So you know, how do you know how to build around that shit? I think it just comes from just making making beats, you know? Like, it just comes from just working and um understanding like your kind of process and how you like see samples and stuff like that, you know. Creative instinct, yeah. Um the spidey senses, your producer senses, you know. So it just kind of depends. It kind of depends on how you wanna how you want to approach it, you know. So yeah. You know, so how much does sampling complicate your business? It can complicate the business a lot, but um, I'm such, I'm such just a fan of just the art.

Um, I I try not to like even think about nah, I'll say this. I'm just I'm such a fan of the art, I want to just like create the music, you know. But um, I remember boy wonder told me that too. He was like, man, like just create. But it it gets tricky with the business. I'm not gonna lie, like one time I took a uh I took a hit, you know. But how so? Can you share any details? Or is it hush? It was well, it was a record that came out um that I did. It was a it was a it was a record that I did with the artist, and um we tried to get somebody to replay the sample. Um I was doing that today. I was replaying the sample. Yeah, we tried to get somebody to replay the sample, but at the end of the day, man, it just didn't feel the same, you know. So it's just like me and that artist were just like, man, you know what? It's all good, man. We just we'll just it's not even uh we're just like we just we just want the people to hear the music, you know? And it wound up being um wound up being a jam that people people really call it. Of course, yeah, you know, so All right. I'm gonna need to know what song we're talking about

Yeah, it's all good, yeah, yeah. All good, all good. Damn, and then and then the original the copyright owner came back and took 90% or something like that. Yes, it's yeah, it gets crazy, man. But you know, it's all good, man. You know, so boy Wanda said don't do this shit, Cole. And you were just like, sorry, Wanda. No, he said to do it. He said he said you don't think about it. Oh, he was saying, okay. I thought he was saying just create as in like just make your own shit, stop saying it's a good thing. He was thinking what you feel because you like it's almost like you're stunning yourself, you limit yourself. Like, you just like okay, like you may come across that Lebanese sample and be like, Man, I'm not even trying to can I curse it? Okay, fuck yes. I feel like I'm gonna curse, but yeah, it's just like make. Everyone asked that. We should probably just tell people ahead of time. I feel like I already cursed. You did, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny hearing them ask. Yeah, I like it. You know, I you know, respect. Makes for good content. For sure, for sure. But yeah, he was um, it's just like you don't want to uh like if you you kind of stunning yourself if you just think about damn like that's not gonna get cleared. You know, just create, just create the art, you know. Damn. Mm-hmm. So Wanda has been pretty instrumental in I'd say you getting records, like at least a few of your biggest, I feel like also had Wanda involved. How did y'all connect?

Yeah, yeah, first connect. Um we connected through social media. Um shout out the internet, right? One time. Yeah, shout out the uh the internet, the worldwide web, yeah. The AOL, the aim, the dial up and all of that. Shout out aim. Shout out aim, shout out. I was Cheese Monkey 66 for a long time. Cheese Monkey is crazy. I was Mr. McTifo 22. My my um, I didn't have aim, but I had my AOL, like my AOL count when I was a kid, was it was it was called Cybergizmo 678. Cyber Gizmo. Crazy. And then I transitioned. Sounds like a kid's movie villain. Then I transitioned to Nike Airboy. Nike Airboy. I was also UNC baller Ben 22, because I'm a big Tar Heel fan. Yeah. So cringy. Yep. But um, but yeah, man, we connected uh via the via the internet via Instagram. Um how did he find you? So you assume that he found him. I mean, I assume boy wanted to get a lot of cold DMs from like other producers. I don't know, did you just shoot your shots?

So what happened? It's funny because I was talking to uh my boy Kuma about this, but what what what happened was me and Childish Major, shout out my boy Childish. Yes, shout out childish. We uh we created a song called Wife You, and we did that, I was like maybe two years ago, I want to say. Um, but it came out in February, that February of that year. I want to say it was like, I'm drawing a blank, but I believe it was like 2020, if I'm if I'm not mistaken. Right before the pandy. I believe, yeah, yeah, if I'm not mistaken. Yep. Yeah. So uh we did that. We dropped that song, and um a couple months later, he had like randomly like followed me, like just randomly. And um that's such a nice random follow. Yeah. If you're like, did he click something wrong when he did that? Randomly, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know he was like, he he was following childish, you know. So I was like, okay, maybe you follow me from Childish, whatever. So anyway, um, fast forward a couple months, and uh, you know, when he followed me, I didn't like hit him up and be like, yo, I got beats for Drake, and you know what I'm saying. I just kind of let it just be.

I didn't want to like, you know, that's some self-control. I would totally do that. I was like, I didn't want to do that. So fast forward, my birthday uh is in April. So around April, um, I went live. And basically prior to that, like my pops, he was on me. He was like, man, you need to like go live and just show, during the pandemic, he was like, Man, just show people like your process of cooking up. Your pops is telling you this? Yes, sir. Your pops is a fucking baller. Shout out to one, yeah. Shout out the social media manager. He gets it. That's my guy. That's my guy. My pop, my I come from a from a super uh creative and just I come from good stock. I come from a super creative and and just a lit family. So yeah, I mean, that's just amazing advice. Continue. Yeah, yeah. I just was like, wait, boomers actually understand the value of social media? Holy shit. Yeah, pops, pops, shout out the pops. Um but uh but yeah, so so so yeah. So basically he was on, he was like, Man, you need to show your process, you know, throughout the pandemic. So I was doing that, and then fast forward to my birthday in April. I went live.

I think this was like, I don't know, like a day or two or a couple days before my birthday. I went live and Wonder had hopped in the live, you know. So I was just like, damn, like this is crazy, you know. And I'm cooking up. So after the live, um, he DM'd me and he was just like, man, like fuck with your shit. And he was just like, yo, like um, send me some shit. And I was just like, damn, just like, dog, this is boy wonder, like, this is a legend, you know. Like, he's he's he's one of the ones. Yes. Um, so it took me all day because I was just in my head thinking about like, damn, what should I send, boy wonder? What should I send? Do you want some beats or loops or whatever? No, he just beats, yeah. Like I was just like, he was like, send me some shit. Like, you know, I want I'm like, damn, so Drake, you know, Drake's main producer, you know what I mean? So it was I I didn't know what to send. So I kind of was in my head all day, and then I finally sent him some shit. But yeah, that's how we connected. We connected via social media. And then fast forward, bro. Was your hand like shaking when you clicked the send button? Nah, I wasn't shaking. Nah, nah, nah, I wasn't shaking. I'm getting nervous, just like thinking about putting a pack together for Wonda.

Nah, but it was definitely I was definitely like, I just over I was overthinking because I did that live like early during the day. I didn't send that man beats till about like nine o'clock at night, you know what I mean? So yeah, it took a full day of like critical thinking around like what am I sending Wonda? Yeah, man. That's something to be said though about making content that actually shows your process and how valuable and being on live and showing how you do things can be like a big thing for how people perceive it. Yeah, yeah. It helps. Like, I remember, man, I was doing like I was I like in my archives on my Instagram, like I was making videos all the time of just like showing my process of sampling and just making beats from scratch. So that definitely um definitely helped with like my following too, um, and stuff like that. But um well, and just like everyone thinks maybe to get to Wanda, you have to have a Drake record or something. You had a childish major record, which I fuck with childish heavy. He's definitely got a solid, but he's not Drake. So, like working with people that are also just surrounded and like in those other circles, even if they're not the you know, like top dog in that group or something, like you could be noticed by someone like a Wonda. I mean, that that's huge.

Networking laterally, yeah, like because childish was way more of like potentially a peer of yours, obviously, than a Drake, for instance, you know. And shout out my boy uh Quentin Miller too, because him and Boy Wonder have a um they have a good relationship too, you know. So it was kind of like a mix of childish and like uh my boy QM just from like QM sending them sending Boy Wonder shit that me and me and him were doing, you know. I feel like QM's like responsible for so many people having great opportunities. That's my guy. That's my guy. We're super solid dude, man. That's my guy. That's amazing. You know Mac as well? Yeah. Fuck with Mac. We just we just uh we were in LA with me and my boy Will in school and we threw a party in, then boys showed up and we had a we had a great time in LA. Yep. So the biggest sample clearance budget. Can you share like how much the label had to pay to clear one of your samples? Is that like NDA'd? I don't know. Yeah, I can't do that. Damn. Five figures, six figures. Uh I feel like 10 grand is like a floor. Like it starts there.

It gets expensive sometimes, but I don't know. All right, I was trying to get it out of here. That's fine. All right, so you mentioned Jay Dilla, your holy trinity of producers from what I saw. We got Dilla. You said in another interview or something, yay and the Neptunes. Is that still? accurate? Those are those are uh how we feeling about Ye right now. No Yay slander, man, but that's yeah. Hey, I I just said how you feeling about Ye? Yeah yeah, yeah. you could have pumped him up. No, Ye, Ye, Ye is, um, Kanye is definitely a legend, you know. Yeah. You can't, you can't you can't take that away from him. Yeah, You can't take away his music, man. You know, um, I think he's a he's a different type of cat, different individual, you know. Um, but um, I think he makes it like in the recent in the recent stuff, he's been making like a lot of he'll say some good things and he'll say some, you know, some kind of you know, some head scratches too. So, you know, couple of heads scratches, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a very he's very politically correct. You know, so so but but yeah. I was scratching my head at a few things recently. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but he's he's a legend. But but so still those three kind of taking the top three spots right now?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, so like what about each of them, you know what I mean? Made them make the the holy trinity for you. Yeah, I mean, I think to start with Dilla, I mean, Dilla's impact just on like hip hop culture. Um, you know, he's he was able to just influence jazz players. He was able to influence singers all just off of like the way he makes beats from it. Just he just his his beats had such a feeling, you know. Um I still remember the first time I heard Dilla. Yeah, like I was just like, holy shit. Yeah, like what is this? Yeah, bro. And he was behind like the the greatest uh from D'Angelo to Erykah Badu to Chop Call Quest, you know. So it's just like and like people still talk about him. So Dilla's like one of the he's the godfather of everything. So like impact wise, that's it's just undeniable. And I mean just the way he chopped samples too, like his chop game was crazy. Yes, you know, like how he stretched them and he was all on the on the MP, MP going crazy, you know. So Dilla, um that's why I really like, like Dilla. Um how about Neptunes?

Neptunes, I would say just because they just had like a they had a crazy futuristic sound, you know, like a lot of their drum sounds really consistent and different than And and it well, the thing is with them is just like none of their beats like sound the same at all. You know, they were very, very uh very, very different. And I just I just remember like when I think of the Neptunes, I just remember being a kid and just remember, like it's like muscle memory. Like I remember hearing like you don't have to call or like the Jay-Z record, uh, the I can't remember the name right now, but um uh Gushy stuff. I can't think of the title, but yeah, but just like I just remember being a kid and just like just remembering the sounds, you know, like the certain sounds, and I was just like, damn. As a kid, I wasn't even thinking about making beats, but I just remember that shit really like stuck out to me. They had such like a just a futuristic, like crazy sound, you know what I mean? So sound selection, yeah, crazy. Um and their ability to work with so many different types of artists. So I feel Like Britney Spears, yeah, yeah.

Because I feel like that's that's the vibe I get from you, bro. To even rock rock artists, you know. Like then they had their whole band nerd, which is come on, man. Yeah, come on, what are we talking about? Yeah, what are we talking about? But I feel like that's that's the like biggest parallel I draw between your three. I mean, Dilla, of course, on the sampling tip, but like the way you've been able to, like, I mean, you guys heard the fucking list I rattled off at the beginning. I mean, none of those artists are that I mean, you know, like they're very different. they're very different artists, yeah. And I feel like if it wasn't for the tag, sometimes like I feel like you have a sound. I mean, let me ask you this. Do you feel like you have a sound? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so either, because like I said, the diversity and like just the ability to work with such different types of artists and help them bring out the best in their artistry, which is what I think the Neptunes did. Yeah, and and that's the thing, man. As a producer, I feel like you just have to be a mirror for the artists and just like really level them up, you know, like still give them them, but you gotta level them up. You have to.

I have I have to give you the best canvas to to for you to paint on, you know. So it's just like that's very important. Cause I know you're probably gonna use watercolors and paintbrushes, so I need to give you a nice palette. I think it needs to be a little bit what they're used to, and then a little something fresh. I don't think you want to go too far either way, but still, like I said, it's really just like leveling them up, like you know, not going too too far, too too far left, you know. So is there ever like tension, but like good tension between you and the artist? Like in the sense of pushing them, and maybe it makes them feel a little uncomfortable, or I think how does that work? Yeah, I think um my boy that I work with, super super close, Will Hill. I think me and him, we have uh we spar, we have good tension. Um we trust each other. We have a chemistry. So um I may tell him to like do this, and like he may not do that, but then he's like, you know, I like he'll fuck with that shit. So um it's like it's evaluating each other's like creative opinions, right?

It's just trust and chemistry. Yeah, it's just trust. At the end of the day, it's just trust. So yeah, all right. So then Ye. Okay, so yeah. You know, what are we drawing from Ye? I mean, Ye is just I mean, he came with he kind of he he just came with the different kind of sped up samples than like Dilla, because he he's a he's a child of Dilla, you know. I feel like Dillas were slower a lot of times, right? No, no, no, Dilla's were slower. That's what I'm saying. Like Kanye, like he came with the crazy sped up samples, yeah. He just was, he was just everywhere, you know, like he was everywhere. Yeah, like through the wire, you know, comes to mind, obviously, with that classic, like sped up. Mm-hmm. Classic. I feel like a lot of Ye's beats too were set up where like he's setting you up for like the hooks already, like there, like the the way the samples were placed. He I think had a bigger vision of the how the entire song was gonna be. Yeah, when he was making the beat. Yeah, I think more than anyone. Yeah, for sure, 100%. That's how um that's how Pharrell was Pharrell is too, though. Yeah. Pharrell was like, I've watched a lot of interviews on Pharrell. Pharrell, like always, he had the music video, he had the hook, the bridge, like you know, so the whole world is curated. Legends, yeah.

Do you operate that way? I've been getting into like songwriting more, um, like top lining, top lining is like melodies and stuff, melodies and like flows and stuff. I'm really good with that because I make beats, so I know how like people should sound on them. Um I get that honestly, but I'm trying to get better at my words, so I'm getting better at like songwriting and just like tapping into that more. Do the producers at the highest level almost automatically have a lot of influence on on top line stuff or not even? I think it just depends. It just depends on the artist. Yeah, I think it just depends. I didn't know if it was like almost table stakes that like if you're at the highest level, you're basically writing, you know, hooks or top line as well. I think it's just case by case. Okay, a lot of them have some of the best songwriters in the world right there in the studio with them to do that. So just kind of depends. have you found yourself building out like writers that you work with regularly? So I just I just kind of um got into working with writers more. Um how's that going? It's cool. Writers, writers make the hits, you know? Yeah, writers make the hits. So I've been trying to get into working with writers more.

Um is there one recently that's already been out that you can speak on where that uh that happened or still kind of new? No, not yet. Okay. Really? Okay, yeah, we're all right. We're gonna be on the lookout. So you mentioned Will Hill. So plug Will Hill. Who is Will Hill? Because I know he's very near and dear to you. Yeah, Will Hill is a uh super, super talented cat. Um, he's based in Atlanta. Um, we've dropped about three projects in the last year and a half, I want to say, almost two years. Um is that executive production? Mm-hmm. Yep, that's me on all the beats. Um, and Will, he's he's he he's he's dope, bro. Like, it's like he's got roots in the West Coast. Like, I'm originally from the West Coast, born in Seattle. Um, um whole family of my pops and my mom, they're from the West Coast, Pops from the Bay, mom's from Seattle, but um, Will has roots in the West Coast. Um, so and he's laid back, and we just kind of like we had a chemistry like when we first met, and just to talk about like his music, it's like his sound is like think like uh I'm not gonna try to compare him, but like think of just like smooth Curren$y, the early Big K.R.I.T., the early Wiz, the Larry Junes, but think about that coming from Atlanta. And when you think about Atlanta, Atlanta is a very trap heavy area, you know.

So it's just like, man, we're we're coming with like a different sound, a West Coast sound, a laid back. It's like picnic music. Shout out to Al Branch. Al Branch said he he calls our music picnic music, you know. It's like it's laid back, you know. You can you can you can kick it to it. So yeah, whatever Al says, I believe. Yeah, that's that's that's the that's the um the OG. Yeah, I went to uh the culture lab, you know, where where BPG's offices are, and Rory and Maul were doing a podcast, you know, New Rory and Mal. and we did some like Q and A, and he was hilarious, like interacting with with uh Rory and Mal because they know each other from you know back in the day or whatever. The hard questions and stuff, or just they were just talking about epic like Def jam stories of like back when Kanye was coming in and playing music and shit, like basically like talking from real life perspective on the shit you saw in like the genius documentary. So it was just I was sitting there like fanboying out, just like hearing the conversations, you know. Yeah, it was super dope. Um so obviously, Will Hill is like someone that you're trying to once again yeah, level up. You're trying to break an artist, right?

Whereas you've clearly gotten a lot of placements with major label artists, you know, people that already have like let's say more established careers. What's more important to you, would you say? Like breaking, yeah. Breaking the artists for sure. Breaking artists. It's it's dope, man. It's it's a blessing to be able to uh work with these artists that are already known, but it's a it's about like working with the cats that aren't known, you know? Cause it's just like, man, respectfully, like the Kendricks and all the big dogs, you know, like they're gonna eventually fade out. So it's just like who are the next cats, you know? So it's just like, man, you gotta um you don't become a superstar producer and a and a huge producer until you are able to break an artist, you know. So it's in the midst of me getting placements, and I'm thankful for that. It's just like, man, we got I gotta gotta break people too, you know. So what is the what is the relationship like with a will versus you know how you're with other artists like in the studio. You can spar with them. yeah, like yeah, we spoke I mean me and that level level of comfort. Well, I mean, yes, it's it's it's it's a comfortability too.

I mean, me and we both live in Atlanta, so like I see we see each other like a lot. We you know, we we just went out to LA together um as a like a joint trip that we did together. So it's just like that's like my brother, like just like I'm kicking with like my homie this my guy Deshaun and my boy Nas, like we all just kick it all the time, you know. So it's just like that just goes just chemistry, you know. Yeah, so one more time alumni. Yeah, exactly. One more time alumni Deshaun. Did you know him from Seattle? Nah, so I didn't I didn't Deshaun grew, he was born in in he was born and raised in Seattle. I wasn't raised in Seattle. Okay, yeah, That's right. you moved around. Yeah, I was born there. My pops had us all over. He um my dad worked for Converse at the time. So um after after I was born, I lived in Seattle until I was about like in kindergarten. And then we moved to Boston. And my pops was uh working at Converse, lived in Boston for a couple years, um, probably for like eight, I want to say like eight, eight or nine years, I want to say, maybe eight, and then we moved to Virginia. So like the rest of like middle school, high school, college was all uh Virginia. So that's where I pretty much grew up.

But I'm culture, man. I look at myself as like gumbo. You know, yeah, a little bit of a. Yeah, how do you feel like that influences the production? Music. I think it helps me a lot. Like, I get it honestly, because I'm originally from the West Coast. My pops is from the Bay, my mom is from Seattle. So as far as West Coast music, that's just natural for me. Cause I was born out there and my family's like that's where they're from. Were they playing that when you were a kid too? Yeah, for sure. My pops play like two-pop. They play, I was exposed to a lot of a lot of different music, like Hootie and the Blowfish, just a lot of different songs, you know. But um, but yeah, West Coast roots, honestly, and then also living in the East Coast, you know, Boston, which is close to like New York, which is you know, it was more it was a hardcore sound, you know what I mean? So knowing about like the um the Mobb Deeps and like the uh Eric B and Rakims, you know, like more of the or the hardcore hip-hop, but also when I moved to the South to Virginia, it was like I got the South South elements too, like the trunk rattling and just like the southern twang, and you know, so I think I get it, I get it. Um I'm cultured, you know?

I I get it honestly. So that shit just the the regionality side of hip-hop specifically. I mean music too, but hip hop specifically, exactly like hip hop. I mean, that shit just fascinates me, man. Yeah, like how different, but yet you can like tie certain elements together, yeah. And if people did move, you can hear this side of them from this region, and then like, oh, but then he's got the you know, even with you know, even with like Will, you're talking about how like he's got the laid back chill kind of west coast influence, but then he's like a little bit more trap maybe from the Atlanta side of things. I just think that shit's so cool. Yeah, man. It's funny when you listen to beats, uh you know, I'll catch myself being like, Oh, it's cool, like Memphis beat, or like, oh, nice Houston beat, you know, you know? Like, like oh, that's got an old school New York kind of feel. Yeah, yeah. I'm always breaking it down by region, you know. You know? Yeah, yeah. So with Will, I want to keep talking about this because I think this is fascinating, right? Like the whole breaking an artist thing. I mean, how is it going? Like, are you guys just making as much music as possible? Then you listen to it.

Are you going in with a project in mind and making music for that? Like, how's the process going? Last year, man, I challenged him to make like a hundred songs. Um, and he made about like 70 songs, 60 songs. So right now, we're kind of just um, we're gearing up for because me and him haven't dropped our own, our latest project, like just our Will Hill Hollywood Code project. It's been a it's been a little while. So next year we're definitely gonna do that. But right now we're kind of just in hibernation mode. I think he's gonna drop something um soon. Um, not fully produced by me. I think he's just gonna drop, uh he's just been dropping, you know. So I think he's gonna drop something soon. I want to say I got a couple on there, but the next Hollywood Code Will Hill project will come out. Fully produced by by me will come out next year. So we're just in hibernation mode, man. We just kind of cooking up, still working on music, still working on our uh our own stuff. Um yeah, just cooking. But do you like, you know, say like eh, like let's do better, or is it just let's make as much as we can and then we'll sit down and you know, kind of comb through it all, or like what's the yeah. So recently what we did like a couple months ago, he came to my crib and we made like we made like five crazy references, right?

So what I told him, I was like, man, this is what I learned from Cannon, because this is what Cannon told Jack. told Jack. It was just like, man, like just focus. If you make 10 songs, don't make another 10. Just focus on those 10 songs. Really make those the best songs you can make. So I remember Cannon told me that. That's what they did with Jack, and I was just like, I told Will that I was like, you know what? For our next project, bro, when we did those five references, like these references are crazy. Let's just focus on these references. Let's make these the best songs. Like, let's just focus on this one song this week. Let's go from the ad libs to the concept to I don't know, the bridge. Let's just focus on that. So, like just being more um uh for lack of better, just being more intentional with the with with with the music. Less ADD. No, but bro, I fucking love this. This is how I like once again, I'm the non-creative, so sometimes my opinions get a little bit like, well, you never fucking made music, like shut the fuck up. But I'll say it like the fact that people just make songs and then like think either it's done perfectly or it's not being put out, yeah, that's so fucking stupid to me. Like I can't even imagine.

Like, why would you not listen to it and be like, oh, that bar is dumb? Let's rewrite the hook to be this, or hey, it's missing this, or even you on the production, let's rework the beat. Like, let's try a new sample, actually. Let's slow it down and re-record it. Let's whatever the fuck to make it better. But like, if you got it off and there was at least something to it. Once again, I know every song maybe you don't want to just like stick with, but if you have like an okay feeling about it and you I think like giving it that chance to like reach its fullest potential, man. I mean, I'm like a huge fan of that approach. Like that made me so happy hearing that because I like that's shit that I say, but I don't have an actual basis for knowing if that's like, you know, good or people to even do that. It makes so much sense. Like when the vocals are laid down, to me, that's when like the fun begins. Like, how does the beat react to the vocals? How do they more intertwine with each other? You know, how can we make this sound more like a song instead of just these lyrics on top of this beat? Yeah, this time around, we're just we're doing way more like post-production.

Yes, you know, just way more post-production and um really making it sound like a a real good solid body of work for next year. So but it also probably includes some like Will re-recording some shit potentially, right? For sure. A hundred percent. So like that's what I mean. It's like it's one thing where like the artist does the vocals, and then you guys, as the producers and or mixers, right? Like get in and make this this whole like thing. But I'm even saying, like, there's no chance that that was I mean, not no chance. Sometimes it might be your best take, the first take. Absolutely. I, you know, creativity and like execution Demo-itis. That's what it's called. Demo-itis. Exactly. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, but like for me, the odds that like you shouldn't re-record some things, like that sounds like I know so many artists that just don't that think that that's like blasphemy of like I can't re-re like I can't get back in the mood. get back in the that's what I hear that a lot. That's that demo itis, man. But yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's tough, but you know, get we get through it.

Yeah, and I and I feel like once again, everything is individual case basis, right? Where it's like sometimes maybe that does actually like fuck it up more, where it's like you should have just left it. It's easy to go too far, you know. Yeah, with case by case, case by case. Yeah, for sure. So obviously you mentioned, you know, learning some shit from canon. And where was Jack Harlow in his career when you started interning there? So I was there uh before Jack was even signed to Generation Now. Um when I was interning for, for Mean Streets and for Generation Now and those guys, I was around when like this was like after uh Love Is Rage is one, and this one like Uzi was doing tapes with uh like a Gucci Man tape and uh collab tape. But yeah, I was around there early, early Uzi, not before Love Is Rage, but you know, a little bit after that. And then I was there, you know, when he dropped Love Is Rage too. Um, but that's when like Cardi was kind of first getting crazy and Pierre was pulling up on him and stuff like that. But um when I was there, Jack wasn't there. Jack wasn't, he wasn't there just yet.

And then when I was there, this one Jack was um, yeah, he was fresh. Like I was this was maybe like my last year, I want to say of interning, but that's when I first met Jack. I met Jack when he uh He dropped his first project or not even yet? No, I I was in there before when he was working on it, like all that type of stuff, like Azebo and like Dark Knight, like all that early stuff. So I was there then, and um, yeah, Jack was just, you know, he was he was in there, he was cooking, he was uh working, trying to get better at his craft. So what did you learn from because honestly, they were trying to break Jack similarly to maybe how you're treating the relationship with Will. So, like, are you drawing any are you looking back at those times, being like, oh, the way that they were working with Jack? Like, maybe we could apply some of that like game. Did you learn something on like that side of things? Yeah, just is being consistent and locking in in the studio and um putting out music, you know? You gotta you gotta build a um you have to build a community, you know. Um artists are brand, you know.

So I feel like Jack has built his brand a hundred percent. And that Drama and canon, those guys, uh those guys are legends and Lake, and you know, those guys make they make they make superstars. So, you know, they know what they're doing. And Jack was consistent. He was in the studio working all the time and you know, cranking out joints. By the way, can I shout out Drama for his insane run this year? Yeah, Drama's going crazy. Holy shit. Shout out Drama bringing back the uh prolific Gangsta grills, yes, brands with everyone. Yes, sir. It's going stupid, man. Here for it. The legend. Absolutely. man. Are there a few more we can Do you know if there's gonna be more this year? Um have you heard any I think there's a couple maybe anything in the rumor mill? Maybe, maybe soon, maybe next year. I'm Just trying to get cold to like get us all the gossip. yeah. Um, so you got one on come home, the kids miss you, Jack's latest project. Yep. What what's it been like to see the trajectory? Because you saw it like early on, man.

Like, has that been pretty wild to see like where he's gotten? It's just an experience, you know. It's just it's just it just goes to show you never know who's next, you know, that you're standing around. So it's just like, but they knew, man. They they saw something in Jack, and and Jack is dope, you know. But be honest, did you see it? Um, and you know, it's no shade to Jack, but like back then when you first saw him coming in, did you think that it was gonna turn into what it's you know, what it's become? It's optimistic, yeah. Um optimistic. So, you know, I feel like like I said, those those those guys are legends, so you know they they know how to um they know what they're doing, and I was optimistic, you know. Yeah, yeah, there is something to be said for you know, a team that's has a proven track record of breaking artists. Like they were in, he was in arguably the best, one of the best hands he could be in, yeah, for you know, launching a career. And Jack could he he he could rap even like even in even back then, you know, like Dark Knight was like his flow on that was crazy, you know. So um I haven't even peeped like old Jack.

I'm gonna be completely keep it a buck right here. I don't even want to know, I don't even want to pretend like I've heard it. There's not even like a lot, really. Yeah. We could dive into that. It's like probably like two or three. Yeah. That's wild. mixtapes, yeah. That's wild. So you also interned for Aaron Reed. I did. So I want to tell you a funny story about Aaron Reed. That's true. I I went to his sweet 16 birthday. party. That's the one on MTV. It was supposed to be, I think. Yeah, where it was. Bro, no one ever sent me like the episode. in New York, right? No, this was in Atlanta. Are you sure? I swear I went to it. I went to it. I thought Aaron. Let's hit him up about it. Nah, it was, it was, it was on uh Yo, hit him up about it and ask if he had an Atlanta one, maybe like before that didn't make it. might've, Maybe the Atlanta one didn't make it. was the reshoot. Exactly. I thought It was in New York. No, I definitely went to Man, that was years ago, but he was it definitely aired though. It definitely aired. I was don't I don't remember if it was in New York or All right. Well, if you have that like if that's out there and it was Atlanta, can you get that for me? Get the can you get like the link to like wherever it is?

I mean, we could look Okay. I'll definitely look it up. We could look that up. It's called the internet, man. Yeah, yeah. yeah. YouTube. Aaron Aaron Reed Sweet 16. But yeah, I thought that was hilarious. I was like, oh my God. Because I I I like followed his, you know, his journey as a producer like recently. I was like, holy shit. Like my friends were because you know, I was so far removed from him, but he just it was a huge thing. So like I just knew a friend that knew a friend, I think that knew, you know, whatever. It was like three times removed. Yeah. But man, I thought that was so funny. That's a good dude right there. Um, okay, so um what's coming up for you? So obviously you mentioned like you know, you're excited about the Will Hill stuff, but like anything else that you're allowed to talk about that's maybe already been announced, or like, you know, anything that you're most I guess pumped about for the rest of this year. We're coming into the end of 2022. Yeah, um I got a heater coming out uh top of the year. I don't want to say with with who yet, but um just trying to just you know stay cooking still, man. I you know, I just I try to be low key and like you know, with my stuff, man.

Try not to like because you don't want to speak about a placement and then it not come out, you know. Has that happened before? Um, nah, cause I want well, nah. nah. Cause He doesn't speak Yeah, I just try to just not, you know because we've we've had someone. That's happened. Well, yeah, I think it was Tane Runo who was supposed to have a Justin Bieber placement. Oh, yeah. And he was like, I'm fucking out of here, y'all. I'm not this Bieber placement. Yeah. And then it ends up getting leaked, but then never officially comes out. So he does have a Justin Bieber song. It's like SoundCloud only or something. Yeah, or you can find it on YouTube. Yeah. Like, no, it didn't get leaked by Bieber. Like a fan somehow like leaked it, or something like hacker. I don't know, some crazy shit, whatever. Yeah, I got some back in like Bieber's like heyday of like fucked upness. Yeah, I got some uh that's funny you said Justin Bieber. I've got some uh some B-sides. I got some stuff, I got I'm I'm just I'm just speaking in general. Um I got some some stuff out. man. Hopefully, yeah, hopefully it comes out, you know. So don't pull a Tane Runo. Let's see. Yeah, let's see. Don't think you're super. I mean, you're already out of here.

No, I'm not I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying it's just funny you guys had mentioned Justin Bieber. I've got some some stuff in the works with just a couple different artists. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. Hopefully, all that stuff comes out. So I hope too, because yeah, the the way that Tane was describing the story was so like sad and depressing. Because he was like, yo, I'm fucking out of here, get this Bieber placement. Yeah. And He was like, wah, wah, wah. Yeah. that shit sucks. But then none. But yeah, so you got you got some more heaters that you're excited about. That's that's dope. Um, but yeah, anything else? I just I mean it's it's fourth quarter now, man. It's it's the end of the year. So um the industry's pretty much about to shut down in a couple weeks. So yeah, why does that happen? It's holidays, you know? Yeah, but like holidays are for like why is the music industry specifically, just like Movie too. like there's industries that shut down. I mean, because the music industry is always running, you know. It's like out of what 10 months is always, you know, it's always on go. So it's just like, okay, we it's cool to get two months to just relax and you know, unplug and be with your family and you know, all that type of stuff.

So yeah, like I said, it's fourth quarter right now, bro. So I'm kind of really just creating, you know, just working on end of the year music and just kind of gearing up for uh next year and just trying to go even even crazier next year. What about outside of the industry? You got like a bowling league you're piped up about or anything like that? Nah, nah, no bowling league. I just, you know, you know, I just got back into golfing though. Ooh, my God. yeah. Yo, y'all need to hit the links. Henry is like an avid golfer. I just got back into golfing, man. Did you get just get back in when you turned 30? Uh no. Because that's what I did. You just put his age on blast. Oh, sorry about that. Nah, it's all good. I'm just kidding. 30, 30. He looked like 30's the new 20. It's all good. I played golf for my high school, and then I turned 20 and I didn't play for 10 years. I skipped my 20s. Why'd you stop? I don't know. I don't know. See, I played as a kid. Why'd you pick it up? So my my pops, he's my pops, he's really good at golf. He's he's really good. But um and social media.

Yeah, and a lot of a lot of other things. Shout out to my mother too. My mother is a um, she's an amazing painter. She was they featured on like Essence magazine, and we used to go to uh Essence Music Festival as a kid. My mom is just I just come from a creative family. You know, um, but yeah, I'm sorry, but to answer your question, yeah. My pops, he uh he was a he's a golfer. Um and he introduced me to it when I was younger. So when I was younger, I played it a little bit. Um, but I was such I was into like football. Like I really played football as a kid, so like I really liked football and basketball. Um, and I didn't really like stay with golf, but now it's just like, man, I wish I would have kept playing golf. I played baseball too, but um, yeah, I I just recent, in these recent years, man. I've been trying to get back into it. So my pops gave me some good clubs. I just got a bag, a bag, and I've been hitting the driving range, you know, over the past couple weeks. So I played with my pops maybe a couple weeks ago. I went to um we played like a little nine-hole. So I'm just trying to, I'm trying to, you know, just get better at at the sport. The beautiful thing is if you you know, you get a group of friends you could play with, you could do this shit until you're like 70, 80 years old.

And the thing about the playing golf too, man, it's just like that's a businessman sport, you know. A lot of deals get closed on the golf course. So it's true, you know. Plus, it's just good for networking. Like, you may meet a cat who like he might be the owner of some podcast, but he's about to lose it. He wants one one more, you know, he wants, he wants y'all shit. You know what I mean? So not to mention the acceptable drinking and driving. Facts, and you get to smoke some sticks too, smoke cigars, you know. So I definitely I definitely like smoking cigars for sure. I feel like he's got the perfect, like calm, cool, collected demeanor for golf, you know. There's like very few. I actually I don't know, maybe some of the like more like popular ones are like fired up, like intense people, but not John Daly for sure. I feel like golf takes like a very like like you know, calm guy, right? Because I mean, it's fucking frustrating, man. So like it's you versus the elements, yeah. And I'm always and I'm always in the water or the rough. Yeah, it's fun though, man. And it's it's just fun being out on the course, like, you know, just being out there with nature, you know. It's my favorite feeling, yeah, man.

It feels good to be out there too. So it's so long, so many hours. Yeah, you can play a nine hole. That's like two hours. That's like two, like two hours. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, play a nine. I'm just a basketball guy, man. I I I need like I need like quick, fast paced motion. We'll see where you're at in five years, ten years. No, I know. Seriously, my body's already like feeling like it's giving up on me every time I play pickup. Future golfer right there. But yeah, no, I did want to ask this, and you know, feel free not to answer, but it's fine. So there were some people that we know in your comment section when you were rocking the Prada Bucket hat, saying, like, bro, this guy's out of here, bro. He's got the Prada Bucket hat on, bro. This dude is this dude's fucking rich, bro. Nah, nah, not yet, man. We we no, No, no. Fuck. Have you gotten that big pub bag yet? Uh yeah, I got I got a nice pub situation. What was the what was the first what was the first purchase? Uh or investment. Or that. I mean, you know. Well, I definitely have a uh IRA account. Um but um I mean that Prada Bucket hat probably set you back a few months, you know.

what I'm saying? Yeah, the Prada, the Prada was nice. Um, but I I uh I got I got a nice car, a good good car. Okay, it was the car for myself, yeah. Okay, for sure. Other than that, man, I try to um yeah, we saw the phantom parked outside. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, right? Crazy. The all black train. Yeah, Yeah, crazy, crazy. Yeah, I just put it. Yeah, I just put the the new rims on it too. Yeah, fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And here I thought it was. It's electric, It's electric too. It's electric. No, way? crazy. I just saw an electric uh Mustang and it was actually fire. For real? For real? I, yeah, like my family friend pulled up to my parents' house. Oh, shit. I was visiting with with my son, and this Ford Mustang electric vehicle that's apparently like their new thing. That's fine. It looks so weird. Everyone's gonna be electric eventually. Yeah, facts. Oh, absolutely. for sure. Well, Cole, we've entered a final segment of the podcast, my friend. H3, take us away. Hollywood Cole. What's the word? The word is the rapid fire rampage. The word is the rapid fire rampage. Let's get it.

Let's get it. It's gonna be a three-part rampage. I'll explain them as we go. Just starting off with some short answer questions. Are you buckled up? I'm ready. Okay, Locked and loaded. Gets pretty intense. All right, come on. I'm ready. You can instantly become an expert at any instrument that you choose. What do you choose? Piano. What is your number one piece of advice for people just starting off making beats? Study. That goes for so many things, but continue. Just like fucking learn about the thing you're trying to do it. You really gotta study, man. You gotta study the study the greats. You gotta try to mimic their beats because that's how you get better. For sure. So study. You can have dinner with one professional athlete, one professional musician, and one professional actor. Who are they? Dead or alive? Alive. No, actually there was no information given. Okay. I usually do include that. Let's go alive. Let's go. Oh, sorry. So one athlete, I would probably LeBron. Uh one actor would be Will Smith.

And what was the last one? Musician. Quincy Jones. Fire dinner. Crazy. Cole, if you were an app, what would you be? Like a phone app? Mobile app, yeah, we'll go mobile. If I was an app, what would I be? Oh man. Hold on, hold on. So hold on, wait, wait, wait. This is an app that's already I have to come up with a new app or an app that's already... There's no further information. No further information. given. Oh, Man, okay. If I was an app, what app would I be? I would be maps because you gotta know where you're going. Damn, that's a bar. I thought he was going with Shazam for sure. I yeah, that too, but you still gotta know where you're going to get to the music, and then when you get to the music, you know? So you gotta metaphorical maps. The metaphorical maps was a fucking bar, bro. Don't sleep on this guy's top line. Maps. No wonder he's getting his songwriter back. Okay, but if you were an emoji, which emoji would you be? I would be the emoji with the with the glasses on. I'm gonna give you two. I'll be the emoji with the like the nerd with the teeth. Nah,

with the shades on. Oh, the cool guy. Yeah, with the shades. on. He goes with the nerd glasses. With the shades on, or Nah, I'll go with that. That's cool. Okay. Confidence. This next one is a philosophical question. Okay. And I really want to understand your answer to this. It's the hot topic on a lot of people's minds. Okay. Is water wet? Yeah, water's wet. It's interesting. It's pretty split on that one. He seemed disgusted at you for asking. Water's wet. You'd be surprised with those answers. Anyway, if you could party with any fictional character, who would it be? I could party with any fictional character. I would party with my boys from the sandlot, the movie. Which one? So many great characters.

Some Squints? Underage drinking gonna be going on. Yeah, Squints is hilarious. I'd probably party with Squints and uh Ham. Oh, ham, yeah. But like grown up, right? You're not getting like a No, we would chill with the characters. Taking shots with 12-year-old kids. Nah, nah, nah. We older. Older. Oh, okay. Yeah, because they've grown up. Just think about them growing up like them as kids, but like grown up. Perfect, perfect. Like Squints and Ham. Come on, that's a ball. That would be. hard. You know what I mean? Love the sandlot. Classic. That's one of my favorite movies. Me too, man. Classic. I'm gonna go watch that tonight. Classic. Cole, you must get rid of three states. Which states do you get rid of? Um, states. I would get rid of probably like South Dakota. Gone. Maybe like North Dakota. Gone. Fuck you, Dakotas. Maybe like Wisconsin. Man, The Midwest just took a hit. Yeah, probably.

We'll be fine. America will be fine. Y'all know you're not, you're not from there. No, No, okay. Okay. He does kind of look like he's from Wisconsin. I'm just I'm saying, yeah, America will be fine without those states. I like your pictures. He does strike me as like a Wisconsin, you know what I mean? Wisconsin. Wisconsin. Corn fed boy. Yeah. Wisconsin. We've been eating a lot of corn, Henry. Moving on. Cole, how many chickens would fit in a three-car garage? How many chickens? We probably fit like 500 chickens. Sounds reasonable. Last one of the short answer. What is your favorite curse word? Probably shit. Part one. Part one. Great. Shit is very versatile. Shit is underrated, yeah. The 500 chickens in the in the three-car garage was quick and seems reasonable. Calculated five. Yeah. Might go six or seven if you like pack them in. Anyway. Moving on to the this or that and give you two choices. Okay. pick one. Here we go. Mm-hmm. Drake or Wayne.

Wayne. Quantized or unquantized? Unquantized. Pop or RB. RB. Drums or melodies? Drums. Drums or flats. Flats. Robots or aliens? Robots. Chicken nuggets or hot dogs? Chicken nuggets. Only be able to listen to your 10 favorite albums for the rest of your life. Mm-hmm. Or never listen to your favorite 10 albums ever again. Ten albums. Keep in your faves? Yeah. Never cut any hair again. Or give up showers. But baths are acceptable. Wait, what? Yeah, wait. What? Say it again. Never cut any hair again anywhere. Never cut any of my hair, just wolf, man. Just wolf, right? All the way. Wolf, man. Okay. Yep. Or. you have to give up showers, but you may still take baths. So everything is a bath.

I'll give I'll give up, give up the shower and I'll take a bath. That's what I'm saying. You should have said like give up cleaning yourself. Yeah. Can I do the rampage? All right. I'm just saying. Listen, baths are like this. Terrible, terrible. I test questions. We see how they do. I adjust. Oh, let's get rid of that one. I have a method to this. Let's mix that one from the next one. Mildly allergic to dust or aggressively allergic to pollen. Yeah, I got allergies too. I would probably be mildly allergic to dust. Ride a fast scooter or a slow car. Fast scooter. And finally get a face tat of a poodle. Or God, there can't be anything. worse. Wow, poodle. I don't know. You seem like a poodle kind of guy, Cole. Nah. Or pay an extra 10,000 in taxes every year for life. Nah, I'm paying that extra $10,000. No face tattoo

for him. Nah, I'm good on the face. I'm confident in myself. We're gonna we're gonna pay that $10,000. Wow. Part two. We're gonna pay the $10,000. If he didn't have the pub bag, it might have been a different answer. No face tattoo for the guy. Do you have any tattoos? Nah. Okay. That'd be a hell of a first one. Yeah. Yeah, that would be crazy. Just the whole side, right? He'd really set the bar. That'd be crazy. Yeah. Nah, I'm good on that. Last part of the rampage is the word association. I'm gonna fire one word at you. Just fire one word, maybe two words. Okay. First thought off the top of your head, right back in. Okay, bet. Let's get it. Let's get it. Let's get it. Starting with, as always. Hip hop. Dilla. Soap. Clean. Toy. Fun. Bank. Cheddar. Boring. Not boring. I like that. Prison. Bad times.

Lemon pepper. Wangs. W E-D-N-E-S-D-A-Y. Wednesday. Wow. Okay, we'll take it. We'll take it. Op. Feds. Pancake. Syrup. Hot tub. Time machine. Lil. Uzi. Bitcoin. NFTs. OnlyFans. Strippers. Podcast. Dope shit. One more time. Was the correct answer. Got you. Oh, right, right. You can save it on this last one. We see how it is, Cole. I got you. You can save it on the last one. Oh my man, man. Let's just run it back, Henry. Let's just try. Let's try again, Cole.

Come on. Podcast. One more time. Ah, nice one, Cole. I never would have thought that. One more time. One more time. And finally, around. Around here. What a rampage. What a rampage. Hollywood Cole. We appreciate you coming on for a dope interview, my man. As always, please like, comment, subscribe. And until next time, Henry, what are we doing? Leaving. We're getting out of here. Bye bye. Peace.