Sk808 on "Stealing Like an Artist", Clicking Until the Beat Sounds Good, and More

I literally said this at a like the last two, three producer camp. I just be clicking shit till it sounds good. Till it sounds like God damn. that shit is so hard. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine Conversations with Genuine People. about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. We're from being more coops to pants off. don't want this to end, so part that one more time. Part that one more time. Part that shit like one more time. They part that One more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I'm excited about this one. We're already having fun off camera, so hopefully the uh vibes continue. It's gonna be a good one. I'm your host, Playback Ben here with my co-host. Henry with a three, because Henry with an E was already taken. Henry, who do we have on the podcast today? Welcoming in on the 41st episode of the One More Time Podcast. Big 4 1. 4 1 shit. Legendary comedian and actor. It's Eddie Griffin. Yo, Eddie.

Hey, get your Larry the cable guy back ass on. What's wrong with you, man. Yo, No one has ever clapped back. I love it. This is why I know this episode's gonna be great. No one has ever clapped back at Henry for roasting. him. You know what's so funny I knew he was trying to be funny because I done heard that before. Have you? Eddie Griffin. So I'm on. I'm on. I'm just now like twisting my hair up and shit. I usually got a fro, like a curly fro. Eddie Griffin, I used to hear that. Good job, Henry. I hit that one. I nailed that one. That's three and a half gold stars. In all seriousness, folks, we have legendary producer Skateaway. Skateaway. And actually, maybe rapper. I don't know. We were talking about that, but more time exclusive right now. I record every now and then. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, he was loving the booth. He was like, yo, can can I get a session in after this? Yeah, I ain't gonna cut the vibe in here. It's fine. There we go. Much love. I appreciate it. It's real cozy. I'm a cozy guy. Like you obviously I came in here with white t-shirts, sweats, and shit. Yep.

So I go everywhere for the most part. Yep. But are you gonna write for yourself or write for other people? Are you trying to put some stuff out or trying to get like a some more bag on the writing tip. Man, this year, bro. Not even just this year, like just from here on out, like I'm trying to do everything. Like anything like within my access. Like I play drum set too. Yeah. I'm Trying to do as many records as I can where I play. Yes. Add all that shit together. Like, you know, whatever, dog. That's dope. Let's go. So you know, Skateaway, the name. It's not just a cool pun off of uh 808, but you actually do skate, right? Like, you know, skating was a big part of your life growing up. For sure. I'm I'm definitely rusty. Okay, so you're not actively doing it. No, I still got boards and shit. I still go, you know. Can you hit a kickflip? For sure. Okay. It's on Instagram. Go check that out. Do your fucking research. For the people listening, no, so speaking of boards, I mean, you have custom boards, right? Yeah, I just I just I made one board. Oh, just one of one.

Uh-huh. Made a one of one. Did you sell it already? For sure. Oh damn. It's already gone. Can we so round? two. So now y'all can y'all like I dropped my website a couple weeks ago, so now y'all can pre-order y'all boards. Go ahead and shout that out. Yeah, man. Skateawayglobal.com. Go check it out. Anything about me, it's on there. Skateawayglobal.com. But you can go, you know what I'm saying? I got the boards and shit, like the the official design and the pre-order link and shit. So if y'all want a board, go pre-order it. They getting ready. You know what I'm saying? But along with a lot of other shit. y'all designed it. I designed the very, very first one. And then the second one, I got like, you know, like my man's who does like the graphics and shit like that. My nigga Uncle Skip. Shout out Uncle Skip. Oh, you know what? Shout out to Big XL too. Because he he made my original Skateaway logo. Oh, right. I put that on my invoices and shit like that. So still to this day. Yeah, hell yeah. man. There we go. Shit's like two, two and a half, three years strong now. So strong.

Awesome. But yeah, I designed the first one, then skip, did the graphic and was like, I couldn't get it how this originally looked, so I made it like this. And I liked the new ones. Like, fuck it. We just gonna run with it. Fuck it. Just like that. Yeah. Pre-order your boards. man. Pre-order that shit. Because they can go to Skateawayglobal.com. And they collectibles. Like I'm only gonna do a certain amount for real. I mean, yeah, you only did one. Exactly. Exactly. That's smart, though. People are gonna snatch up the next one. I mean, the second round will be like what, seven, maybe so you can make five of them. No, so you had I mean, you had SoundCloud hopping in high school, which is crazy because I never really thought I did it like that. But you did, looking back on it. I mean, you were already known as a producer, I feel like, in high school, right? Yeah, I was always known as the music kid. The music guy. Because I did everything, Man, like I again. I said I played drum set, but like I play all percussion. It didn't matter what it was. Cowbell, man, cowbell, Glockenspiel. Hell yeah, Glockenspiel. man, kunga, bongo, don't play with him, all of that, whatever.

You know what I'm saying? Like, but I was I was like born with like natural rhythm and shit, so it just came and I just always been fucking with music. But when I got into beats at 14, I was like, oh, this the shit. I'm so jealous just hearing that, bro. These kids that start making beats so young, I'm like, damn, I was 20. Like it was just one of them things that just chose me. I didn't choose it for real. So, like when I went to college, I went to Howard for two years, uh, Howard University in DC. Great college. I went somewhere to be like uncomfortable for real, so I could just learn some with some new shit. I was used to the South already. That's fair. Don't don't, like, skate no pun intended. Don't skate past the fact that you were like on your Nick Cannon shit, bro. Some real drumline shit. This dude didn't just go to Howard, you know, just as a normal student. You went to Howard on a drumline scholarship, right? Yeah, like an overall music scholarship. Yeah, like a music scholarship. Because I did jazz. I did every ensemble. I did everything. But no edits like drumline. He was really doing it.

Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, you joined the Marching band though, right? Marching band, Jazz band. Like the uniform and all, right? Yeah, yeah. High high knee, all that shit. High knees. Oh my god. Whatever helped pay for school for it. But I'm gonna be a thousand. I really didn't want to march though. I really didn't want to go to college. But I did it just like on some like, you know. I haven't figured anything else out yet. Not even that. Just you know, well, that, but also like, you know, you want to make your folks proud and shit like that. So it's okay, yeah. You know, you do what you gotta do. But after a while, I was just like, man, fuck this shit, dog. Like, yeah, but I mean, You fell in love with DC though. I did. Yeah, I mean, what's your relationship like with DC? Would you say? Um, I'm not gonna call it like a second home or nothing like that for real. But I fuck with DC. Yeah. I just I really fuck with DC. Had some good times there. Good times. I love DC, man. good memories, crazy memories. Um, you know, in Atlanta, like I'm I'm really into like fashion and shit like that too. Uh even though I ain't really like flashy and trying to do too much on my style, I'm laid back, but I I fuck with it though. Seeing like the difference, you know, New York is usually like the fashion hub and shit like that.

So being able to be like in the middle of the East Coast and going to all the places on the east and then being able to go to New York or go to Philly, go to Baltimore. Like you just seeing like, you know, the street wear and how like street culture is so it's it's so put into the the fashion world these days, you know what I'm saying? Like all the shit, like just regular t-shirts, the new Balance, like how Dior just re literally remade the new balance 990. Like they just steal from each other. Man. Basically, it takes smaller guys like that. They wear that shit in the street. Yeah, that's street. wear. Started there. You feel me? So, but but that wasn't really a thing out here. You know, we wear Force 1s. Like, that's it. Yeah, I don't really know too many other shoes. We wear Force 1s for the main part. So you rock with the black forces. Man. Is that that that's that evil shit? Man. If I put on black forces, bro. That's a bad day. Something bad's gonna happen. Like you pissed a nigga like me off. Oh my god. Well no So it's interesting. Like talking about just the East Coast, even like hopping from you know Atlanta to DC, Baltimore, New York, Philly.

Mm-hmm. You've obviously been to all those places, right? Like Jersey, yeah. Yeah, like is it pretty unique as far as like the different you know cultures though? As far as. To me, yeah, because you know, I'm I'm a person that really pays attention to detail and shit like that. So when I'm listening or seeing, like I'm I'm like I like how we was just talking about how I'm saying, like, I'm a visionary. Yeah, like especially I'm gonna use New York for this example specifically. You know, you grew up seeing shit like that on TV, the big Apple, Manhattan. It it didn't like it didn't hit until I officially got off that train at three in the morning, yeah, and went up all and got off on Manhattan and seen all the lights and shit. So like I'm a visionary, so seeing that just put me in a whole nother vibe, a whole different feeling. Like it, you know what I'm saying? It taught me some shit, it showed me some other shit. So imagine that same feeling in other cities. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So you're like a visual learner, everyone has their style of learning. Yeah, I get a lot of like, you know, like I'm not even like it's so funny. I'm born and raised from Atlanta. I'm a West Side nigga, don't get it confused.

Like, I'm a real west side nigga. Shout out West Side, but folks be talking to me about streets and shit, naming streets, and I'll be like, uh, kind of no what's over there? I think I heard of that. Like, what's over there? Then they give me a landmark or something that's over there. I'm like, I'm like a relative location person. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's it's three blocks from the Chevron and like you know, down from the KFC. Oh, okay, Bet, bet. Yeah, shit like that. So when I went up to DC and seen how they streets ran, I was like, oh hell nah, this shit confusing. Like, the streets are ugly up there. Like, it looks it looks crazy. It is kind of weird. It's weird. as fuck. Some are gridded, but some are like. Then there's one big ass street called Georgia Ave that just goes straight down. Yeah. It goes straight down and straight up. Like I feel like that's freedom parkway for us. That just makes no sense in the rest of Atlanta. There's just like this freedom parkway just goes straight in the city. I don't know. That's crazy. I do know that. So your freshman year though at Howard, you won Hottest Producer. That's crazy, yeah. Is that that was a contest? I won. Yeah, it was. It was like a like a yeah, it's like an event.

They did like Howard's Hottest Artist, Howard's Hottest Producer. Um whatever. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. DJ, and it was turnt. My freshman year I won. I wasn't even thinking about that shit for real. I just went and did some shit I had never done before. Yeah, I mean, looking back at it, did you feel like you should have won? Like oh, hell yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, but I feel like you didn't really find your sound at that point, though, did you? Nah, I just was good at making beats. So I'll take it. And I was still like in the beginning stages of the shit. So even with the times of what was going on in music, like I was had already either done that wave or I was like just now like, oh damn, I'm doing that too. You feel me? So like yeah, I feel like yeah, I should have won. Well deserved. So so you don't end up finishing at Howard, but you do stay in DC for a little while. But you know what though? It's funny too. Like, I'm gonna mention this because I I forgot about this award until like I seen it at my mama house. Okay.

I got best new artist award, yeah. Yeah, shout out my mama. Shout out to him. I got like a best new artist award, my sophomore year. I don't remember what I think it's they're called the student choice awards. Yeah, they were called the student choice awards. So I got best new artists. I was so confused when I got it though, because I'm just like, there are no lyrics on any of my shit. But yeah, What? Best new artists? But then it's like, I had songs with artists that were, you know, on campus with me. Shout out um my nigga Avery, you know, Kelly LaFleur, one of the first niggas I ever worked with, Woody 95. Shout out to him too. And all the other DC boys that bought beats off me and that I was fucking with and shit like that. Like even in the studios and shit, like it was early on. Yeah. I had like I was really uh it was like a movement for I still look at myself like that. Cause I just got I I it'd be shit that I'd be forgetting to do because I got so much shit going on. But I it's cause I want like, you know, I want that pressure. Like I want this, I want you to see. I really want you to see, bro. I'm the one.

You thrive under pressure. Yeah, like low-key. Yeah, you know? Try to fill up your plate so you can. And I want to show y'all that like I'm everywhere. I'm all over the place. And that doesn't stress you out having a lot. Oh, it does. It does. Like we real creatives, bro. This shit gets overwhelming for sure. Yeah. You will have days when you feel like you want to quit, but it's like, quit for what? Especially if if if you done came this far. Fuck you, quitting for it. Right. So when you feel like you want to quit though, what do you do? Nothing. Like you keep going. Just chill out. Like, okay, oh, okay. Really? Because some people I feel like go harder if they feel like they want to quit. There are days, there are days that I literally will be like, oh, I gotta make beats today. And they'll come out fine. But lately, I've just been stepping away from it. So what do you like to do? Skate or like Like, it'd be too cold, bro. It'd be too cold. Okay. Like it is it is winter here in Atlanta. We don't like the weather. I'm not going outside. Summertime though, I I'll go downtown with a couple of the homies and shit. Okay. So what do you do in the winter? man, I just be chilling. Just like yeah, just like maybe you know put on some shows.

Movies. Yeah, I'm a movie guy for sure. Movie guy. Like, I just be watching shit. Even if I don't remember what it's called. I have seen that movie. You know what I'm saying? Like oh damn. I just put that on one time. Yeah, oh god, you know, Netflix. Are you still there? Yeah. Type shit. You know what I'm saying? Still here in Netflix. Be tired of him watching the movie, just be like, damn, that's crazy. Like, and then like I I just got on Tubi. Like, so me and the homies been on Tubi just watching all the hood films, all the old like drug dealing movies, all the classics, the Soprano, uh, not the Sopranos, what's Godfather shit like that? Okay, like they got all types of shit on there. Funny shit, stupid shit, uh uh documentaries. They had like the death row documentary. So, like, I had caught COVID like right before Christmas. And I was just sitting in there just watching little documentaries and elections and shit all day. Like, you know, I'm not really a TV guy, but I'll watch the shows if they on demand and shit. Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, that's that's what I be doing. Like when I'm not feeling it, I just watch TV. There's value kind of step away from it. There's value and rest, yeah, and relaxation. Yeah, just put focus on the stuff. Go listen to some other shit too. Like, you can't listen to the same shit every day.

Unless you riding around, that's up to you. But if you ride around by yourself, I advise you to go ahead and just ride to some shit. You probably wouldn't play in front of your partners, like you know, Would you be on that Alicia Keys, man. what? All of that, whatever. Bro, I did it. it'd be feeling crazy sometimes. I literally be like, one more I'm listening to ESTG. Hour and later, I'm listening to motherfuckers from New York, like Shani Ben Laden, like D'Aura. and then a few minutes later, I'm listening to motherfucking Alicia Keys. Then by night, I'm listening to Brent, like Brent Faiyaz. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It is it's all over, but I I'm a real music guy though. Even if I don't remember the name or the lyrics from the song, like I guarantee you I've heard it, and I can tell you, like, oh, the bridge finna happening here, the beat break down finna happen here. Like, I just hear that shit more than anything. But I still hear the lyrics though, so y'all can't be bullshitting the beats now. Like, and you're soaking all that in, and it kind of can influence your production stuff. naturally though. Like, I don't even be trying to like sometimes shit just hit me.

Like it feels good. You ever hear a part of a song and like, oh, I want to steal that. I'm trying, to use that. What? That's key. right? What do you think Music is stealing. Music ain't shit, but stealing, bro. Thank you, man. Stealing and reiterating it and rearranging the shit. Art of stealing. Not yeah, completely ripping off copyright. But like, yeah, being inspired. People are afraid to be inspired. Bro, James Brown, funky drummer, like that's the most sample like drumbeat in hip hop history. It started hip hop. It helped. Like, come on, bro. Let's let's be let's be realistic here. Instead of denying it, yeah, let's be inspired. Original creativity is amazing. Just as amazing as taking something and making something totally new out of it. That shit's cool too. And even the original shit to me is like it's an amalgamation of everything that you've listened to. Amalgamation That's a good word. Thank you. Yeah. SAT word. But it's like it's a. You get no points for that. It's a result of everything you've been hearing all your life. You know what I mean? Like, just because you played something and it felt like you just created it, like, nah, that's you've been listening to music your whole life. That influenced you to play that.

No, it's crazy though, because like some people look down on that shit. I feel like they should. yeah, so you're like, fuck that. Bro, like, because I still study jazz and shit. Do you know what I mean, though? Yeah, it's like purists. So like studying jazz, bro, They literally like it's trash. Especially when you playing it, too. They literally show you like this riff for this tune came from this tune that's like probably 40 years older than it. Like, it's a lot of that shit going on. Yo, even like country music came from a lot of like bluegrass and shit, right? Literally, it was the same shit, but they just played it on Like, a different instrument. It literally came from jazz. Like, exactly the jazz, like that shit is really like it's literally that. Yeah, motherfuckers just don't realize it. But everybody don't. It's like everybody's not musically inclined or like thinks about it. Like that. here's the main reason though that big producers and big people will kind of skew toward the original stuff is to keep their publishing. Cause like you you if being able to keep 100% of that bag by it being original, that is a good argument to keep it. original. It's all about what you negotiate too at the end of the day. True. If you have like, someone... Have you ran into

big like you know, sampling issues, or like you know, I've I ran into the issue of a loop maker sending me the same fucking loops that you send to everybody else. Oh, that they all do that. So when I get the shit placed, it's like, oh, this loop might have been used with this other placement. It's like that's tough one because there's an argument. I don't even want to use your shit now. Like there's an argument. too. So, You're only looking for like shit that's for you. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, how do you approach that? I I I like okay, it's it's hard to expect someone to send you just loops. Because you're sending beats out to mold for artists, aren't you? But it's for sure. But it's like It's hard. It's one loop maker I can like comment on? Yeah, it's one, like off the top of the head. In Foss. I forgot where the fuck he's from in Europe, but in Foss is doing his thing. He Got shit, he got shit out like placements too. But his whatever he be sending me, it just be fitting what I be making. Yeah, like there's some crazy Europeans are killing the loop making game.

Oh, man, seriously. What, bro? The drum kit scene, the sound design scene, like man. I was gonna say something. Give out some sauce, and I ain't gonna come on, man. We need sauce. We need sauce. I ain't I ain't one of them type of people. Come on, man. Um I've been using it off camera, though. He's telling us off camera. He's telling right now. No, I'm saying... I'm about to say it right now. Oh, thank god. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've just been using a lot of one shots lately. Mm-hmm. Okay. One shots. You throw it in the sampler and then you got it on your keyboard and you kind of mess around. Yeah. It's a way of like taking something that already sounds cool, but still having a way to make it unique. Yeah, you goddamn bounce the melody and flip it. Mm-hmm. What we was just talking about. You know what I'm saying? Like I just I literally said this at a like the last two, three producer camps that I I've been a part of. I just be clicking shit till it sounds good. Till it sounds like god damn, like that shit is so hard. Like I just be clicking shit. Is it hard yet? Nope. Keep clicking. Yeah, like keep toying around with it. That's amazing. If it don't sound like nothing, I just delete it, you know, there's something beautiful about that for real. God, but people have come in your comments of like, uh, just producers are just you know clickers Yeah, like, throwing two loops together and reversing and pitching it down and adding a clap, like uh guess what?

Y'all buying it. Exactly. All the all the records you're listening to have been made that way. Or you know, there's formulas, of course, but like you know, there's originality in formula too. So it's all about like even with jazz, you know, motherfuckers will say like A B A or A B B A A B A B C Like Exactly. That's a little bit more cool, but there's you know, there's different ways you want to do the shit. Some people want to stop, like that's the beauty of music. Like, I be telling folks, like, you gotta toy around with this shit. Yeah, so I be trying to push like sounds and shit. Sometimes it don't click right away. Yeah, but I try to find somebody to click with. Yeah, if it works. If it don't work, shit. I'll try it. Yeah, that's how I've been feeling lately, for real. That's That's what I've been saying, like. Yeah, he's just trying to hop on all the beats that no one else wanted to hop on the basically. That he thinks are hard. Yeah, yeah. Yo, so going back to DC. There was uh an apartment that you lived in. That kind of like started it all, I would say. Producer house. Well, it was

it was called something? That's what we call it. Producer house. Producer house. Everybody made beats. Paint us the picture of how many people were living there, how many bedrooms was this house like or this apartment, Paint the picture. I saw it was two bedrooms. One like bathroom that everybody could use. The other bedroom had the private bathroom Yeah. Yeah. That was paid extra. I ain't never asked. I ain't never asked. So you didn't have that room just for the record. Yeah, I didn't have that room. Like, I was just standing there. You know what I'm saying? Like, how many people? All right. So it started out with two. Okay. That's normal. So it was me, my brother J-Bo on the beat. You know what I'm saying? Shout out, J-Bo. Eastside legend, He out here too. Fuck my boy. Um, yeah. So it was just me and him first. Manny ill, another super producer. Man, he was locked up at the time.

Okay. But he had told me, like, right before you went in, like, let's go up, bro. Like, come stay with us. Cause I was already out there for school, but I was like, man, I ain't finna got damn. I ain't going to school no more, bro. I'm not finna waste no more money. Like, I tried. I dead ass tried. I tried everything. Like, I tried to make it make sense with the life that I was trying to live and push forward. Cause again, I didn't want to go to fucking school. Were you a music major? Yep. Yeah. Then I tried to change to like an audio. Audio's something, bro. I don't fucking know. They was giving me the run around with that shit. He just saw audio in the major title. Give me that. School of communications. I was like, I'm going over here. Cause I just felt like I'm gonna go, I was gonna have I was gonna have more freedom. Yeah because being in like the school of arts and shit like that, like it was cool, but like, man, like they were so strict, but I also felt like I just felt like I wasn't learning, bro. Like I was getting better, but it was like I wasn't learning. I don't know, bro.

You could have been getting better on your own without paying thousands of dollars every semester. Yeah, every pretty much semester. Pretty much, and then I you know, playing the same songs every year, and then like also like the program lacking numbers and you know, organization and shit like that. Like, I'ma just be a thousand percent. Like, it was just all over the place for real. And I was just like, damn, like, am I am I participating or am I leading? Yeah, I'm just a freshman. So was it just three people? The drum line. No, in the house. Oh, oh, yeah, I'm thinking about that. Yeah, all right. So, yeah, in the house. It was me and J Bo first. Then a couple weeks later, we went and got Manny out of jail, so then it was the three of us. Then Woody was living in Atlanta, Woody 95, Woody's an artist and a writer that we be fucking with. That's my brother, you know, one of the first I was working with. Um yeah, he was living in Atlanta, he was tired of being there. July. I was tired of being there, also shit. Like, nigga need to go away to grow some more and like really tap in with they craft and just work every day.

You know what I'm saying? Whatever we had to do to make it happen, we did whatever. Right. So, yeah, then it turned to four. Then my nigga Shaq from Chicago, came. It was five. I was like, buckle up, Henry. It's gonna take at least five more minutes of feeling we were going to. Then. then my nigga Klaz. Klaz didn't even have to stay there, but like we was all just working together. So why wouldn't he? He used to just crash, you know what I'm saying? Turnt up, though. Y'all got air mattresses in here or what? Like it was two bedrooms. Couches, probably two couches, like it was one air mattress at one point. And and it was carpeting that bitch. So there was a floor, yeah. Totally. Yeah, so it I mean, it got to be like nine or ten people. I heard no, no, Is that the lie? More not nine or ten people. Oh, my God. too many. Yeah, thank god. Hell no. I was like, that sounded like a fire code violation. Wait, wait, damn. Was I ain't gonna say like they was like staying with us, bro?

But at some times it was like it was it was like two extra extra people coming in and out at any given time. There was like Type shit. It was like eight, eight I was like, two bedroom. it was turnt. Damn. We was in there creating and just getting better. It was just music, it was all music. Yeah, it created this creative haven that people could just escape to. And we've we've talked to a few people like that. Where it's been your time and shit. Yeah, that was the first time I had like really recorded a song for real. The first time I really like learned, like, oh damn, this is how the sample, this is how sampling works in FL. Like, I really sat down for hours, and we all like it was like we took shifts and shit. Cause there was a big main studio out in the living room and shit. So that was my shit, basically, because I was couch buddy, you know what I'm saying? Couch guy. Still hustling though. You know what I'm saying? Not sitting on my ass, like really still working trying to figure this shit out. Like, all right, how am I finna do this? You know what I'm saying? Am I gonna go back home?

Am I finna stay out here and just do this shit out here? Like, what's up? I was like, I don't know. But eventually I said, fuck this shit. I'm going, I'm going home. Cause Atlanta is it's Atlanta. Yeah. I'm from here. What the fuck am I doing? Like, you know? Yeah. But I still like I get love in both places. Yeah. So but yeah, man, the crib was just fine. It was producer house. A lot of great uh had to be good energy. Yeah, for sure. Everyone's on that same mindset. A lot of hell too, though. We we, you know, we brothers, we got in arguing and shit like that too. Like little shit, but yeah. So, like, you know, what drives you? You know what I mean? Like, what motivates you to do this shit? Because I mean, you know, you've mentioned this shit's hard. I mean, from the creative side to the business side, I mean, it's not easy to make it in music. So, like, what what gets you, you know? We kind of talked about you know what you do when it's overwhelming, but like what actually motivates you to hit the gas, you know what I mean? Helps you get out of bed in the morning, yeah. Like you trying to reach some certain thing for a reason, or it this question would be like it'd be hard to answer sometimes because you know most people would think like there's a hidden agenda for everybody. Like, yeah, I'm not gonna say I don't believe that, but like if you were to ask me, I'd be like, I really don't know.

Like, I just I love this shit. Like, is it some weird like internal feeling that just you just feel like you're supposed to do this shit, or like you just want or you love it? So you want to do something that you love? doing. It's definitely that, too. You love doing it. Like I'll also be telling myself, like, like what I said earlier, you wouldn't come to this, like you you would have never came this far to quit. Yeah, it's like, do I want to erase all the work I've put in? I'm not a quitter, bro. Like when I figure something out, like that's that this is gonna work. Like, this is just my plan A, it's just working out for it, nigga. Like, yeah, just day by day. How do you feel about having plan B's? I talked about this with uh actually another guest that's gonna come on the show recently or uh next, I guess. Um I'm how do you feel about a plan B? Do you have one? Do you have one right now? Or nah. Cause this shit working. Yeah, yeah. Like my master plan is is starting to unfold and shit. So I don't really have a plan B, but like I got ideas that I know will work.

So right now I'm just working on those because yeah, so like being fluid to be able to kind of pivot, I guess, is different than like having a complete you know yeah, I mean you're not gonna go work in like finance or marketing, I guess. Like or I mean maybe you can't. Ain't no telling for real. Like these days is no telling like with anybody CPA if you need your taxes done. It is tax season coming up. Get up skate away. Get up skate away. That's funny, man. Numbers. Yo, so tell us about tell us about your first major placement, right? Like, what would you consider your first major placement? You know, kind of how you know how did it happen? You know, tell us the story behind that. Is it Doug? I was before that. I I, I'll consider my first major placement because it was a label situation, like a major label situation. Yeah, exactly. So I'll say I'll say was it I think it was Young Manny first. Young Manny from um he's from Maryland.

He signed uh uh RCA and Sony and shit like that. Or he was like, you know what I'm saying? Like that was about a year and a half, two years ago. But young Manny though, shout out to Lil Homie. He's doing his thing right now. right now. You've been locked in with him for sure. Got a lot of songs. Um his first album, I did Moana Part 2 and Margiela. Those are two like big singles for him. Well, Margiela was, and then I did Youngest in Charge, which was another like big song for him. And I didn't know how like turnt that song was for real. Cause I'm in Atlanta. Once again, he's from Maryland. So when I went up there and like started hearing folks playing his like taste out the streets and shit like that. Like just out in public. Like it I didn't even. Well yeah. just say the streets, you know, like some people say, like, There wasn't nobody playing that in the streets. Like, nah, I mean, like just being out and hearing that nigga shit. It was like, oh damn, They were playing it. Yeah, I mean, that that kind of goes back and then going to like. The cultural. New York too. Like, my homie came out from New York. He like, bro, he was like, hey, bro. Meant to ask you something. So I'm like, what's up? Like, what are you good? He like, yeah, bro, you produced

this song? And he played youngest and child. I'm like, eh. Like, yeah, see, like, bro, we be bumping this shit in New York, bro. I admittedly had not heard of it. Damn. Like, but again, like that's a regional thing. Exactly. Yeah. That's how I look at it. Which is so cool though. I love that about hip hop specifically. It's very regional. The regional like draw to certain sounds and artists. You know what I mean? I'm trying to have shit in every single place. Like, yeah. Why not? Like, I got the musical ability to do so. So why not have some of the different cities and shit? So do you hear the regions like when you're making beats? Sometimes. I'll be hearing, like, oh yeah, this could be for somebody from over here, or this could be for this artist. Cause nowadays we got people from other places that sound like they're from other places. So you can't even really say that no more. So it's like, you know, there's still certain things that make something like kind of regional. You know, Fabo talked about YBN Nahmir sounded like he was from LA, even though he's from Birmingham. Yeah, you know what I mean? It was like this dude doesn't sound like he's from Birmingham. Like, no one knew that he was even from Alabama. But then there's people from Alabama where you're like, you're from fucking Alabama.

You know, like Big Fabo type shit. Everyone thought he was from like California Exactly. Everyone thought he was from LA. Yeah. Yeah. That was that's funny. Um, so you go on to get an in-house producer deal with Boo Vision. Uh-huh. For those that don't know, what even is an in-house producer deal? Like, kind of what just high level, you don't talk about you know, specifics, but like high level. Shit. What kind of agreement is that? Even just people are trying to learn. I can speak on that agreement more so specifically for real. Okay. I can't. I ain't gonna give you like a generalization because this again, it's all about what you agree to. Yeah, sure. So I was an in-house producer for Boo Vision's labels, so I was working with Casey Pluto early on. And so for those that don't know who Boo is, can you just tell me? who Boo is. That's Akon's brother. But as well as. Just speaking on him himself. Like. He discovered like a lot. A lot of artists. T-Pain. And he was Kanye's manager, right? Yeah, he's Kanye's. I'm not sure if he's still I don't know. He was Kanye's manager though at the time. Yeah. Akon's brother. Huge music industry executive, A&R talent.

Yeah. So I signed, I signed with him because I was fucking with Casey so heavy. Like every song like Casey Pluto. Yeah, we had like hella sauce like from back then. I ain't worked with him in a while. Yeah. Because you know, that situation kind of just it just fell out. So it's like they're over there. I'm over here. Sure. No, no, like no bad, no bad. Fuck y'all. Like it ain't like that. It's just like it didn't work out. Straight. Yeah, fair enough. Moving on. Yeah, but so what were you brought in to do? Like kind of You know. Worked with Casey and any other artists that they brought through. So they brought through young lady to some degree. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, like, for those that have ever been approached by this, this is literally where like a label asks you to be their guy. Mm-hmm. And uh while I'm still able to like do other shit that I want to do. Okay. And they create placements. You know what I'm saying? But it was. Yeah. I made sure I was just like, I still want to do shit though. Yeah. But sure, I'll work with your artists. But you're emailing their artists' beats. You're getting in the studio with their artists. Had a whole studio. I was gonna say we had that. whole studio. Tell us about like this. Sounded crazy, bro.

I'm pretty sure it did sound crazy. It sounded crazy. I mean, what? Once again, paint us the picture of like what your day in the life looked like at this time. Cause this was I'm intrigued. Yeah, you should be. Man. Music box days. I still got a job. I was working at Foot Locker. Okay, selling sneakers. Yeah. Yeah, the ref uniform on and everything. For sure. Can you lie about it? Imagining skate in a marching band uniform versus imagining him in a Foot Locker uniform. I don't know. They're both equally pretty, pretty great. Man. Shit. I kind of like the skate away attire better. I'm not gonna do that. Nah, for sure. Yeah, you know, you do what you gotta do to get here. So trust me. man. We we respect the grind. But you know, uh, I was going to SAE at the time before like COVID and shit like that. Yeah. I was about about tired of working at Foot Locker now. I was like, all right, this shit dead now. Like, I don't really like need this shit for real now.

Like, I don't I can figure out how to, you know, yeah, make this shit work. I'm a hustler bro. Like, it was some nice it was some nice extra money, but it was also like you didn't need it to live. It wasn't like it was enough. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like well, how were you getting money then? Were you are you doing any online. Selling beats on Instagram leases, oh yeah, yeah. And through DMs straight up, exclusive stuff and leases or both. leases and all that shit. Whoever would come buy it, like, you know, once I got placement shit, of course my numbers would go up, but like motherfuckers you trying to, bro. Like, let's work. Like let's work. That's the classic. DM. I love the let's work. Okay, what's your budget? Like, I don't be trying to like, well, I ain't fucking with you, buddy, but you don't you don't got them. You know what I'm saying? You ain't approach me the right way, you know. Like, I ain't I ain't finna do all that. Let's work is the worst way to approach someone you want to work with. For those artists, producers, anyone in music, please don't DM someone let's work. Stop the let's work DM. You know what I'm saying? Nah, just don't say let's work. you know I ain't gonna tell you what to do. But don't do it.

Don't send me a DM. Don't send me that shit. Let's work. Yeah. Let's work. Like you can send it to Henry, but just no. Fuck that. You right. Don't do that shit. Don't do it. Don't do it, bro. That shit Like, show some value proposition. Like, how are you gonna help me? How can we help each other? You're better off saying I got a budget of so and so and so and so. What can I get with that? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Or just something else. Even just like I'm fine. Like, seriously, listen to the song, maybe. Even that is a little better. Don't send me no songs, especially if I don't follow you. Like, I might be my request would be a lot of niggas who send me songs, and I'll be like, SoundCloud link. I'm not trying to hear this shit man. Like, I don't know, you I sent you a song a few months ago, bro. Nah, look at it. It's still better than less work. I ain't listening to that shit. It's better than less Work, I still to me. I ain't your comments and all that. Like, man. So yeah, so you end up, you know, getting this deal, Mm-hmm. and the studio sounded crazy. I mean, who was pulling up? Man, we had to do it. And you were in charge of this whole studio, right? Boo, like left the studio. Like, yeah, right.

But I just had that bitch to myself. You just had a studio for a while. Like a whole studio. Like the first year, like, of course, Casey and it was still there, so it was just us for a while. Okay. And then like. It just started like. It just started trickling down. Motherfuckers going over here, over here, over here, over here. So, like eventually, I was the only motherfucker in there. And I was just like, it's cold in this bitch. It's pretty empty in this motherfucker. Like, yeah, but you were living there. Just make some. Yeah, I stayed there for a little while. Because it was a bedroom in that bitch. Exactly. We were showering. You know what I'm like. That's crazy. What the fuck? Yeah. They good. The electricity work. Like, I gotta like, What the fuck. I'm gonna stay here. Like, yo, exactly. No, it's it's no judgment. I'm just saying. I can still go home if I need to. Yeah. But but you don't need to. But you wash my clothes. Like, no laundry. It didn't have a washing machine. Yeah, it didn't have no washing machine, like that. But shower, nice bathroom, bedroom. Yeah. You kept clothes there? Sometimes.

Yeah. Just depends. Like how how it depends on how many days I was staying there. Yeah, but so people just started pulling up. It became like the go to. I ain't gonna lie, we opened the studio up, like I started just got them. You want to come put the studio, pull up 40 hour. Yeah. Brought my niggas in because everybody does everybody do music. Motherfuckers engineer produce. Yeah. Everybody get money. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah, but like Chi Chi was pulling up, Section 8. Obviously, Manny, Pluto. I mean, there was a bunch of artists pulling. It was like anyone that was popping, I feel like in 2019. They done been through that producer wise, too. Like a lot of niggas done been to the studio just fucking with me. You know what I'm saying? Especially fucking with my like I really had Miles and Kyle just pull up for real. Kyle Cow uh Colossal. Oh, okay. Colossal. He's in the congregation with Miles. You know what I'm saying?

But like they, you know, his production group, my production group, Just Vibes, uh uh PR beats, you know what I'm saying? The whole like special car production, you know what I'm saying? Uh uh, just all of us was in there just working that shit, just whoever we had, you know what I'm saying? So some people was bringing in like label writers and shit, like City, you know what I'm saying, from Philly, yeah. Other writers and shit. Like, We just had a lot of emotion going on, and then Manny, Manny Ill. the producer eventually coming in to rent his room out with Boo. He started bringing in his clientele. So he had Glock pull up, He had long way pull up. Then they running into artists that we fucking with, you know what I'm saying? Like Scalebreaker. Pablo Juan. yeah, one, my brother, drawbridge head, yeah. Draw Rich. Yeah, for him. Yeah. And then my artist, Blue Lingo, holding that motherfucker down. Like, like we did Trap Vibes project out of there. We did Here You Go and Here You Go Too. Out of there and out of the Death Valley studio that we had in West End. Oh shit. You know what I'm saying? It seems like wherever you go, you kind of just create an a creative environment for people to just come feel good about it. Yeah, it does feel like he likes to be around a lot of people that like to do music.

Or people like being around him. Overall, yeah, in in general, yeah. I just cause it's really my world. Like, you know. Yeah, but some people like to be loners. And like some people would have never lived at a like place with six to eight people in a two-bedroom. You know what I mean? Yeah. I ain't sit here saying I just enjoyed it, but he's like, I just dealt with it. But I appreciated it though. Because Manny ain't had to do that. Nah, that's true. They ain't had to let me stay there. It's love. Yeah. You were paying for it. But they also Yeah, but you also let like Miles stay there, he said. At the studio. That's what I mean in Atlanta. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about the apartment. But at the studio in Atlanta, yeah, let him, I'll let him, I let them come in. I mean, he was just acting like that. Like, this is my spot. It was nah, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was for real, but I because I had it by myself for a while. And then I started realizing like this shit is boring as fuck. I'm not gonna get nothing done in this bitch by myself for real. I'm in here just making beats. Like, yeah, the yeah, the deal. Where are they going?

You know what I'm saying? Like, where the fuck are they going? So I just started having just producers, the homies just pulling up. They could bring whoever, you know what I'm saying? All that shit. That's tight. It'd be listening parties. Damn. No, It sounded epic. It sounded epic. All of that. It was fun. You gotta use it. Gotta use it. Yeah, but I mean, you were kind of like, I mean, you were down bad a little bit. Like, as far as like I mean, financially, it was it was. it was it was like I was in hell bad for you. I mean shit. Miles was saying you guys were like but not figuring out like, yo, we should just order like a cheap ass pizza together and shit because I mean you were trying to figure this shit out though I was trying to figure this shit out it was bad but it wasn't like bro we ain't gonna eat tonight like it wasn't like that like we ate we made sure niggas was good I never missed a meal nah never missed no meals so like we wasn't like you know when little Caesars has five dollar pizza no I ain't gonna lie we wasn't eating Little Caesars that shit nasty as fuck I hate Little Caesars actually let me take that back in Maryland we was eating that shit it's different they're better different in Maryland I don't know that was the only time I was eating them that's what you can say I was down bad you can say that did okay then it was like uh niggas was doing whatever but back home like shit was bad it wasn't that bad though yeah but yeah I just you know I took some sacrifices yeah not we all still take sacrifices to move forward and what we doing and shit if you really want it yeah sure plan A and then you think your plan B is to make plan A working shit like that like that that's his plan B so so we talked about this a little bit off camera finding out about placements in this game is like it's some mystery it's this like mysterious thing some people don't find out including yourself until it's literally out right which like and then you get paid two years later yeah yeah so I say that only really happened with like you know Manny and shit like they was just started dropping shit I was like what the fuck like yeah but what about yeah but what about the Coilera and uh I found I found out about that earlier I just didn't know it was okay this that's what that was I didn't find out till that Monday of that week that it was dropping okay and I was like it was oh damn basically out. So four days old.

They was like, yeah, this song coming out, but they trying to get a feature for it. I'm like, oh, feature. Like, this shit not y'all ain't turning this shit in. Like, what the fuck going on so because it was uh Carlay Thursday, they send me the shit and Carla Coilera's on there. I said, Oh, this is so it was Carla's record originally. And then right. Cause I posted on my Instagram. Shout out to C Gutta. Yeah, C Gutta. Luke Lime Light. I placed it, right? Shout out to y'all. Yeah, man. He did He did Chaudelene, right. Young Joc. that's legendary, bro. Wait, C Gutta did that? Yeah, he produced his name was Lil C back. in the day. That's like my fucking, you know, I love Joc. adolescence Is it Chaudelene? Yeah. I mean it was, yeah. I'm a I'm in Atlanta. I'm 30 years old and from Atlanta. So that's our time, bro. That's our time. We were yeah. That was a homie era. Yeah, like you were like five. I don't know. Yeah, young as hell. I was like teenage. Doing that shit in elementary school for sure. Yeah, I was definitely part of Atlanta adolescence for sure. That was like part of the snap era, man. That was a big part of everything. Yeah, man.

Shout out to C Gutta, Luke Lime Light, man. We the three of us really be making some shit. So those you like like a couple of your go-to guys you're locked in with? For sure. Yeah, how important is that as a producer? Like finding. Networking, bro, and then think about who fuck with you. Yeah. And if it's beneficial, you feel me? Even if you don't see it being beneficial right away, like y'all might make some fire shit and you bring something to the table that can take y'all off. You know what I'm saying? It's then like take y'all up out of there. Same way they did that shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, it's all about just making good shit and networking. Yeah, I mean, what are you looking for out of a collaborator though? Is it is it is it the business side or the creative side, or are you cool with either? I'm a handle my business regardless. So you're more so you're more looking for the creative like inspiration, you know what I mean? Yeah. There was actually a great. Cause we. We could do some shit. You could like not have no shit going on. It's like uh uh uh doing collabs like online and shit. Yeah like somebody sent me some loops. I didn't ask for them bitches.

I'd be tired of y'all who be which camera should I look at? One. Probably the lowest one there. I be tired of y'all who just be sending me loops without me asking. Like I didn't drop my email, but like y'all, and then y'all sending them every day. Like I appreciate it, but I don't because it's like, what the fuck? Like, you just filling up my my fucking email now. Like, damn. So stop doing that shit, man. Like, for real. I have a question for you. This was an interesting discussion. I saw um, I think Palace was talking about on the producer grind podcast recently. He said that if you if someone makes a loop and they send it to you, and then you finish the beat and you get it placed. He said the guy that gets it placed deserves maybe like 60, 70% of the publishing for getting it placed. I told you the same shit, shit. Yeah, that's interesting, right? I never really thought about it. It's because 50/50 is the default. I've definitely heard that before. But like if dudes in Europe, Yo, he doesn't want to give up publishing on the uh Coilera and uh Carla right now. He's like, see, got it. don't fucking listen to this shit.

This is bullshit. Yeah, I mean, me personally, if you and I made to beat, yeah, and I get it placed, you and I gonna split it halfway. It's like but is that just love that you have? Because I kind of agree with it. Is it fair? You know, it it would have sat to your point. You were making fuck ton of beat fuck tons of beats in that studio, right? A lot of them were collecting digital dust, like they were literally maybe going nowhere. If I made it by myself, sometimes I know extra collaborator. I just mean in general though, like if if you and me made a beat and you know what I mean, you didn't get it placed. If I had it in, you know what I mean? I I don't know, man. It's interesting. It's an interesting take. I I feel them, but me personally, like, we just gonna split that shit. Yeah. Because again, like you helped make the beat. The beat fight. They pick the beat. And the publishing is supposed to be. Because you and I made it. Publishing is the songwriting. It's who wrote the songwriting. You're right.

Who made the beat? That's what publishing is. It's like it's like this. Man, I like it. I really feel like there's no other way to explain it for real. Like, just split. the shit. I mean, I also think we made the beat together. It's just too muddy if you try to do it. Yeah, like all that. Oh, I feel like I deserve all that hair pulling and tit for tat shit. It's like a broker fee of what five percent temper. You know, I mean, there'd have to be some standard like placement fee or some shit. Then you gotta think about this too. Like, y'all gotta pay y'all managers and lawyers and shit at the end of the day, like for handling these situations, unless you're doing it yourself. There are producers who are doing it themselves. That's cool, but still have a lawyer. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I advise motherfuckers to get managers for sure. Like, once you start I mean having something to manage. I can't even really say that for real, because like me and Nate been locked in. Yeah, I mean, you I mean, you probably didn't have shit going on when he did. Yeah, when he actually tapped in with you, right? Doing a little local shit. Yeah, but We just been. But I mean, not enough for you to not be able to handle it, you would have been able to handle it probably on your own. I still can handle everything You could. to some degree, but it it now it's a lot, so it's like, okay, I need help.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But the fact that we've started from back then and just grown to what's going on now, is like yeah, we always we just be here every time. No, I mean, I would even say when I stepped in, you know, you were very capable of handling your shit. I mean, I mean, you're a smart business guy, so like you would have easily been able to continue to handle your shit for a certain amount of time. I think you're more vital now. Yeah, for sure. Now it's picked up a lot. Just you know, the shit we have going on with you know, whatever. But yeah, you know, same shit is like you probably could have, he probably could have. There's a lot of people that could continue to do their own business, but like clearly there's value add as far as like having someone on your team, you know what I mean? If it makes sense, yeah. Let the right manager. If it makes sense for sure find you, you know. I don't like when people are looking for. a manager. It was just organic for real. Like we just be eye to eye all the time. That's how it should be. That's my nigga right there. That's my left hand man. That's what happened with us. That's my dog. That's what happened. You feel me? Yep. So the 42 Doug placement, though.

How'd you find out about that one? Uh Instagram live. I love that. I love that. I love that. Yeah. Was he playing it? He was just playing it, right? Playing it, but I heard like he he was like, I caught the end of it, and I was like, that beat sounds familiar. And then he played it back. He was like, Man, hold on. I don't know. I brought it back again, but I didn't screen record it, I was just like, I don't know. But like, I don't this should be whatever. Like, I ain't gonna try to screen record unless I can get a clear video. Unless you know that it yeah, unless I know, like, hey, I know where he's trying, like, yeah, he said he's putting it out, shit like that. So Yeah, he said he's putting it out. Shit like that. So, yeah, you heard your d I heard my tag. and I was just like, Oh, that's the beat me and Flex did. Shout out to Flex on the Beat. Flex on the beat, shout out, yeah, big flex. That's my nigga right there, man. One of Detroit's finest, right? Detroit, okay. Crazy. That's one of my favorite sounds is the Detroit sound. It's huge right now. I love it. Yeah, we was fucking with that shit in high school though. Not drill.

I was fucking with Chicago drill. I like the New York drill shit too. I like New York drill shit So you make drill beats? I make whatever. Yeah, big music. guy. It don't matter, whatever. Like, I can make any of that shit. Yeah, I mean, you've been called a producer's producer by a few people. I spoke with a few people. Producer's producer. Producer's producer. What do you think they mean? They, you, I don't know. I ain't never heard that. I don't know, I ain't never heard that. What the fuck does that mean? Well, okay, I heard it. I heard it. What do you think they mean by that? Producer's producer, yeah. Maybe they mean like a lot of the shit that producers be doing, like, or be like, I ain't gonna say struggling to do, but like putting together, like, I can do that shit in my sleep. Do you think it's from like the music background that you have? So look kind of like definitely got an advantage for sure. Because of like the musicianship. I learned how to perfect it in my way for it, but I'm still learning to perfect it though. You know, is how do you learn? You like you a YouTube guy, you a documentary, you uh I just be clicking shit, clicking shit, literally.

That's how I I ain't never really watched unless I have a specific question. But if I don't got a specific question, turn some notes. This is literally like the new age version of Nick Cannon from Drumline. Not even kidding. That's great. Except they don't edit him. he's actually playing the shit. Oh, so damn. That's great. So. So the beat club with Timbaland. Yeah, that's legendary. Like, what the fuck is that? Do you even know what that is? Yeah, do you? Yeah, don't cap. I'm not cap. I'm good. Don't cap. You're the guy. You're the guy. He's trying to use cap. It felt so terrible to say that. Um, but yeah, so like you know, what is that? All right, so beat club. Originally, uh uh the A and R Eric. Shout out to Eric. Shout out to Eric Beat club. Is that Timbaland's A&R? Okay. DM me was like, yo, Timbaland, fucks with your shit. Email me some beats, and I'm just like what? Okay. Like that sounds scammy. Did that sound like super scammy? I'm looking like, man, who the fuck?

Like, but I looked at Instagram. Is your account hacked? Right. I looked at his Instagram. And that was like a year and a half, almost two years now. Okay. Almost like two years back. So I'm looking. And I start scrolling through the Instagram. Like, I I don't really like social media for real. Like, I'll be on it because it's like, this is what we gotta do, and that shit be fucking funny. But like, I can't stand that shit. Like, I hate it. So I be missing shit. I'd gladly give it up if you could. If it wasn't beneficial, like business and music wise, you'd give it up in a second. Catch me outside. Okay. He's not fucking with the IG or the top. Shit, cool, but nonetheless, this is what I'm saying. Like, yeah, I be missing shit. So I didn't even see that he'd been following me for like weeks. Oh wow. Type shit. And I followed him back because I seen Timlin did follow him. And I seen some other folks follow him. So I'm like, all right. This guy must be tapped in. Yeah, like Tim Lin just don't follow anybody. Like social currency of a follow, man. It's Huge. Yeah, when I follow Skate, he's gonna be like, oh. No. No. I'm just kidding. No, I got some people now, bro.

Fuck you, Did. I got some people now. Yo, y'all are funny. Thank you. Oh man. But yeah, so you follow him back. I sent him some beats. You did, okay. They was fucking with him. Okay. And he was like, Yeah, we want you to be a part of the beat club. I don't know. I'm like, the fuck is the beat club? That's how I'm about it. Because a lot of people still don't know. I'm like, because they haven't launched it yet. Yeah. Only we know what's going on. I know, but that's what I'm saying. They send us all the emails and shit. Yeah. But Beat Club is basically gonna be like uh a more direct and private beat stars. Mm. Okay, and they got everybody on that bitch for. Like outside of the first VIP like members that they chose, like it shows like 400 of us worldwide. So I was like, yeah, that's five, 400 worldwide, and all I pick. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. Wasn't even like thinking about the shit. I didn't even think Tim Lassine, my shit. Like, like none of that. Like, nah, you know. So is it gonna be exclusive on the producer side where the only certain producers, or is it exclusive on the artist side? Like they only invite certain artists to come get beats.

Or both. I think you gotta pay to subscribe. Like to be a part of it. So any artist could pay to subscribe. Yeah, anybody could get like an account. Like you can post shit. Cause do you like they're gonna have like artists that are able, or I should say writers, post hooks, post melodies, post collabs, drum kits, MIDI files. So he's coming for beat stars. He's coming for Abe. He's what's his name? Abe? Abe Batshon. Abe Batshon. He's gonna be the title to beat. Stars. I would be very nervous if I was Abe. And Timbaland. But they're just trying to launch it. I don't know. We still have any producer can go to BeatStars. So that's still a major strength. I have a lot. I don't like Beat Stars. No? You ever tried it out? Yeah. No success. Didn't fuck with it. Don't fuck with PayPal like that either. Because they weren't fucking with you. Kind of thing. Nah. Because you said You fuck with people that fuck with you. Yeah, it was just like they just like beat stars do a lot of extra shit. And PayPal do a lot of extra shit.

Like, just give me my fucking bread, bro. Yeah, I hear you. Like, man, just send me my money. Straight up. Straight up. Like. Should be easy. It's the hardest industry to get paid in. I swear. Why? You don't even gotta be signed. Yeah. Shit, difficult, man. So Henry, you know what's not gonna be easy. the last segment of the one more time podcast. Skate08, buckle up, my friend. Henry, where we at? This is the Rapid Fire rampage. What the fuck is that? Exactly. Good question. So it's gonna be a three-part rampage. First part, I'm gonna hit you with some short answer questions. Real simple. Okay. The goal here is to first thing off the top of your head. Yeah. We're going for speed. We're going for speed. Okay. His brain is like over your high as shit. That's why we don't ask you those nut ass questions. It's gonna make it better. The second part is gonna be a this or that. I'm gonna give you just two choices and you pick one.

Last part is gonna be a word association. I'm gonna give you a word, you just give me the first thing off the top of your head, right? He he will repeat this as he goes. Yes, don't worry. So you don't have to remember all of it right now. But with that being said, here comes episode 41 with Skate08. It's the rapid fire rampage. Big skate shit. The scream is crazy. Yeah, it's terrible. It's a rampage. What is Skate08 doing in five years? Being a GOAT. We might have alluded to the answer to this question, but I want to just make sure. If you were in the music industry, but not as a producer, what would you be doing? A and R. Ooh. Top dog. Not a rapper. Not a rapper. That's what I was thinking. Oh, yeah. Cool. Describe your sound to a deaf person. To a deaf person? What is your production style? But they can't hear. Soulful. Anything else?

Because you're gonna be able to feel it. Heartfelt. I don't know. You know. Okay. Let's go. Okay. For those who want to make a good living producing, how important is the business versus the music? Just as important. About equal? Equally. If you heard that here. If not more, equally. If not more, love that. What are three things we would find in your fridge right now? Lemonade. Sandwich meat Pause. I'm a sandwich guy. Okay. And fruit pause. Two out of three were pauses. So many pauses. Skate. Skate, you have to delete three states. What are they? Delaware. Right off the rip. He's got beef with Delaware, Oklahoma. Oklahoma.

Um Washington. That's pretty good. Shit, too sad over there in Seattle, man. Really? Rains a lot. Yeah, they say it's sad as fuck. I like Seattle. I hear that. I guess I'm a sad guy. I've been hearing that, but I don't know, man. Yeah. Skate, if you had to wear the same outfit for the rest of your life, what would it be? Needles, track pants. White T. Okay. I was like, that's it. Just pants. The needles track pants, white tee, uh a fitted of my choice. I don't know. It depends on the color the track pants. That's fair. Um pair of forces. White forces. Yeah, white forces. Clearly not black, Henry. Not black. I kind of like how the black forces look. We'll move on. Joe Biden exiles you from America. Where do you go to live? Tokyo.

Oh. I like that answer. That's quick too. Yeah. Skate, how many squirrels would fit in a motel room? Hell, I don't know. That's a nut ass question. That's nutty. Any any guesses? You said in a hotel room? Motel. In a motel room? A thousand? A thousand squirrels. That's good. Yeah. I can go for that. Yeah. If someone gave you a hundred thousand right now to spend on your music career, how would you spend it? Um promotion. Like videos and visuals. Visuals. Like crazy like visuals. Yeah. And promo. Yeah, that shit matter. Part one of the rampage. Part one. Not bad. Pretty good. That was pretty good. Yeah, I ain't gonna let them yell, bro. Okay. There was a couple that stumbled you a little bit, but you know. Moving on to the this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. Just pick the one that resonates with you. Part two of the rampage, episode 41 with Skate08. Rampage! Rampage.

Lyrics or flow. Lyrics. Melodies or drums? Drums. Snares or claps. I can't pick. I like them equally. Zay808 or Spins808? Spins for me. Gross beat or halftime? Halftime. You can only get placements for the rest of your career. Excuse me. Bless you. Thank you. Or you can only do sync deals and online leases for the rest of your career. Placements. Indica or sativa? Indica. Really a hybrid guy, but indica. Indica leaning hybrid. Yeah. For sure. silly hats or silly socks? Silly socks. Become five feet tall or eight feet tall.

Oh shit. I'm um I'm five, eight. I like where I'm at. So I'm gonna just say if I can stay five, feet, I'll stay. But eight feet, hell no. That's too fucking tall, bro. But five feet It's kind of on the shorter side of the spectrum. Eight feet, though. It's too tall. Hey, you might die, really. Can't fit in the plane. Yeah, like everything about your life special. You're right in a good way and a bad way. Yeah, you're right. Airplanes. Airplanes would be hell. You gotta get on jets. Like, yeah. You can't get in no normal eight feet, dog. So you're going with five? I think I'd choose five. Find your little short girl to mess with. I ain't gonna count. I'm five eight. I have no problems. Yeah. But that's a eight inches. Like it's definitely. It's a lot shorter. It's a lot shorter. All right, we'll chalk that one. I was like five feet in like eighth grade. Like 4'11". I was 5'4" my junior year, and then I grew fucking six inches.

So yeah, I was saying you're pretty tall, dude. I was yeah, I was small. Sit in jail for one year or lose one year off of your life. As in like literally I die a year early. Correct. Facts. I'd rather just die a year early because you sit in jail for you lost a year of your life already. Unless you read books or you know, do something. Man, you in there, you know, fucking not for you. Bro, I'm with you straight up. I'm with you. I'm like, oh, I have to die? I have to die at 79 versus 80, or 85 versus 86? That's the only thing you promise. You ain't promised to go to jail. Yeah, facts, man. Like, yeah, fuck that. Give up smartphones for the rest of your life, or give up salt. That's a tough one. That's probably the hardest one. I ain't gonna lie. Terrible question. That is tough. You need some seasoning or something. But like I need your phone. You can have an iPad or something.

We already in this day and age, though. Everything is is a smart device. Yeah. So salt. You can say pink salt. That's the that's the that's the that's the God help out here. We'll give I guess we'll give him that. I don't know. Jury. Okay, yeah, it's approved. Leave a comment down below. That's an acceptable answer. You have a 95% chance of getting 100,000 or a 5% chance at 100 million. Man, 95% chance of 100,000. Just basically guaranteed. Or do you risk it for the biscuit? I don't know. That's a tough one. Nah, that's stupid as hell. What am I talking about? Man, give me the hundred thousand, bro. Yeah, just real quick. Just give it to me.

Like, we can make something happen with that. Yeah. But 5% chance of 100 million. I know. But there's a 95% chance you're not going to give it. Because 100K, no offense, it is not life changing. No, it's not. As much as people want to paint that picture, it is a good thing. You can't even retire with a million dollars. It shit goes quick. Bro, do hustling and you know what I'm saying, putting all this shit together and spending money, like, bro, within the last two, three years, bro. Like, I you probably spent. Yeah, yeah. Close to 100. Yeah. No, I'm definitely at 100 now. Which is crazy, right? I'm definitely at 100. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Yeah. Like in just the last two and a half years of just putting this shit together, bro, spending time in the studios, traveling shit. Which is almost the argument to risk it for the $100,000, Which is almost the argument for risking for the 100 million because 100K, it's like, well, I'll just go make that. It's like this. I'm better off. You can't make a hundred million that easy. I'm better off betting on myself. Okay. I like that. With the 100K. With the 100k, just better. To make the M's. Okay. Yeah, fair. Part two of the rampage. Part two.

He's doing good. This started pretty good. Got a little bit better. If you end up strong here on the last part of the rampage, you could go down in rapid fire rampage. History. Hall of Fame shit, man. We're getting a Hall of Fame too. We all know this is more important than a plaque to you. So I mean, it should be. We've thought about getting plaques for the Hall of Fame. That'd be true. It would be. It'd be pretty cool. We've talked about it for so many episodes now. Now let's just fucking do it. Let's take action. Yeah, let's make that a real time. 100%. Skate. Hold me to that. Okay, cool. I'm getting you your plaque. Bet. Last part of the. Well, let's see how he does it. Well, okay. I don't guarantee him a plaque. it could be a bronze plaque. I didn't promise him what kind of plaque. go down in flames in the word association here. Let's find out. Oh yeah, true. Word association. All right. Shoot one word at you, shoot the first thing off the top of your head right back at me. All right. As fast as you can. Mm-hmm. Here we go. Bet Studio. Peace. Manifest. Your life.

Lawyer. Necessary. Leprechaun. Short. About five feet. Shorter. Yeah, sure. Beef. When you stand. Camera. Vision. Stress. Wait, am I supposed to be saying one word? This is perfect. You're doing great. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah. You said stress? I want to say two words, but that's fine. Oh, uh pressure made dominance. Yeah, just like a phrase or you know, a word. Just something short. Yeah, pressure McDonald's. Platinum. On the way. Synth. Bass. That's what I would have said too.

Mm-hmm. Jail. Not going. Losing the year off the line. Yeah. Knock on something. Just knock. Knock on every piece of glass and wood. Wood. It's fake wood. I'm not going on everything legit. You know what I'm saying? Everything legit. Mm-hmm. Lil. Nothing about me. Nothing about me. Lil, I like it. Big shit. Apple. Good fruit. Bitcoin. Be careful. Distortion. Use it. OnlyFans. I'm staying out of this one. It's hard if you're making money out of it. Rat. I don't want to fuck with that. Peanut butter.

And jelly. In song. Huh? You did it like in the. Oh, yeah. Oh. Reverb. Cool. 42. Doug. Let's get it. Skate 08, ladies and gentlemen. Well done. Well done. Yeah, shit. Cool. I wasn't prepared for that. Oh god. We like it that way. We prefer that. So we can kind of blindside you. It's like a mini game show within a like, you know, interview about your life. So it's kind of like now let's ask questions that have nothing to do with your life. Yeah, yeah. No, this has been amazing, man. I think that, you know, your like motivation and like your you know, can do attitude, you're not gonna stop until you get this shit. Which is like I don't know. what people need to hear. I mean, because this shit is not for the faint of heart, At all. This shit says by any means. There it is. No, and I think that's literally, you know, you're living up to the uh you know, to that, to that philosophy. So we really appreciate you coming on and telling your story.

Thank y'all for having me. man. This has been a lot of fun. Y'all gotta have me. One more time. Hey, let's go. And Henry, on that note, what are we doing? Getting out of here. We're getting the fuck out of here. Peace.