Introducing Gucci Mane to Mixtapes ft. DJ Burn One

I've always been looking for artists. I would go out too. Every day I'd get off of school and drive around 285 and just drop CDs off on consignment. And so that's how I learned how to do mixtapes. Just going to stores and having a very inferior product. And so it was just like learning on my feet. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. We're from being more coops to piss off. They find it one more time. One more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. One more time. Tuesday, our favorite day of the week. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host. Henry with a three, aka the trap Jack Black. Henry, who do we have on the podcast today, my friend? Welcoming in on episode 31. Episode 31. 31 famous American music critic, founder of Needledrop.com. It's Anthony Fantano.

That's perfect, man. Perfect. He'll love that. He'll love that. I love it when Henry actually hits the nail on the head with these roasts because it's really hit or miss, but such is life. They're not all good. Yeah. But they're always funny. In all seriousness, we have the legendary producer, mix engineer, recording engineer, teacher, mixtape host, DJ AR, uh soon-to-be master class owner, uh DJ Burn one. Burn one. Burn one, burn one. If you don't know the tag, stop listening right now because fuck yourself. Um I'm gonna I'm just gonna dive right in, man. Thank you all for having me. Thanks for coming. appreciate you coming on, man. This is definitely an honor. So there's a misconception, I think, on on the origin of your name. You're burning one right now as we speak, so it's kind of a perfect segue. It's a good segue. That's not actually what the name means, right? No, I actually got into um mixtapes really early.

I mean, I got into really the internet early Mm-hmm. and uh started burning CDs like early, early. Early, early. I thought that was cool. When it like meant something, you know, when people didn't have CDs and because I came up in the tape era, so tapes and stuff like that. And so I remember when you met a guy with CDs, it was like finding a good drug dealer, like, oh he's got the stuff. And I was the guy. Yeah, yeah, I was the guy that I had that shit. Like I I had the AOL instant, the AOL uh chat room. Setting up plays on AIM. Connection 56K. Download one album overnight, and that would print like two copies, two, three copies, and take them to school and sell them. And then I started me doing mixtapes. I'll take like the top eight at eight on V103, and I'll start selling that. And now I got a job at a mom and pop store. And uh this guy 29 from IEP, he was like, Why don't you do a real tape? And I was like, What's that? He was like, uh, you know, drama is getting like exclusives and different artists and he was this that and the other kind of, yeah, that was kind of because the other tapes I knew about were like DJ Jelly and Oomp Camp and Blend tapes, and I was messing around with that, but I was like, Man, I'm not a technician, you know. I was like, I'm not a technician. Yeah, because that was kind of like mashup style stuff, right?

It was straight mashups, yeah. Where you take they'll blend like booty bass, like planet rock, yeah, drums, and then put like uh silk or something pushing inside of you, like an old RB joint on top of it, and the way they would be going. Now it sounds like uh the summer walker, you know, X for a reason. It's like that type of vibe, yeah. But it was like early mashups type thing, and uh so I I love those, and then he told me about the exclusives, and so I got it uh I started putting out real tapes, but anyway, so I I went from kind of selling a couple bootleg CDs to I worked at a mom and Pop store, and I remember we got trap music early, and I went from selling bootlegs for like five dollars a piece to now I need 20 dollars because this is an early copy of trap music, still in the rap and everything, it hadn't even come out. I had like the early copy because we were working with distributor so I was like let me get 20 that markup they were not going for the four time markup everybody was like burn one burn me one burn one I heard burn one for the next couple weeks and I was like burn one my DJ name at the time was chaos which somebody else already had I was it was terrible Spelled with a K by the way, K-OS. Terrible with a dash too? K-OS, that's cringe. Shout out to the dash. Full cringe territory, like gosh, terrible alternative, uh, you know, we gotta start from somewhere. Burn, there's somebody named that, it's a cool name, it's not terrible. So but for me it wasn't, you know, it wasn't the move. No, it's terrible. It's terrible the beautiful connection here is for where one more time comes from me coming up vocal engineering vocal producing and working with artists in the booth I I woke up one day and realized they all say one more time in the booth everyone no matter how old young gender race like everyone says one more time and I decided to embrace it it's kind of like the same thing you kind of did right hell yeah that's why good you kept hearing it you're like shit I'm gonna I'm gonna make it mine yeah so I mean you were always into like finding and sharing like the new undiscovered early shit I mean that that was like your thing right what were some of the early ways yeah still is. Still is. still is bro I like I've just always loved discovering new artists and finding something yeah so how were you doing it early on though early on you know I mean what were some of those early like how I found well like how I found Gucci Mane which is similar thing uh I heard black tea the remix on the on on uh hot 1079 in the mix show and it was like the response to a franchise Boyz, White Tee, I was like what is this and so I looked it up, it was Never Again, Never Again Records, and so I looked it up in the um, it had to have been like the yellow pages or something, the yellow pages, yeah, Never Again Records, I think I just looked it straight up. Are those in a museum right now yellow pages probably yeah and i i remember just calling and gucci Mane picked up, wow, that was who picked up, it was a direct line to Gucci Mane, he was like come up here right now, and so I came up there and he immediately took me, because it was like nine people on that song, he immediately took me over to Zaytoven's house I'm taking you to Zay's house I didn't know who he was either he was doing all the beats at the time all the beats and I get there and he plays me So Icy, this is a couple months before it comes out, and then you're convinced, I'll never forget hearing So Icy for the first time. I remember I was like I at the time I thought it was terrible because Lil Will he auto-tuned Lil Will I was like you auto-tuned Lil Will?

He was like yeah I did that I was like hmm, I love looking for Nicki and all that like I'm a real dungeon family. So hearing him you know just the way the auto tune was hitting I was like ah but now I realize it's like you know if you have a visceral reaction to something it means it's probably something there. Yeah but you mentioned you were like an internet guy. I mean you were using the internet also you weren't just you know tapping into like hot 1079 to find people I mean you were using like M-I-R-C. I didn't even know what that was what it what was that so that was like an early chat program to where I remember gamers used it right yeah and it's like where all the people from AOL who kind of figure out how to get albums online okay kind of like moved over there. It was like a better faster protocol and um yeah we were on there for a couple on there yeah all the time you know a homie of mine DJ Folk who ended up DJ Folk who ended up working with uh Jeezy shout out DJ was on there too you know um but yeah it was basically, like sharing music, finding out about stuff. Pretty much all of what like kind of Twitter is now, like the um, what do you call it, like the water cooler or whatever, you know um it was it was exactly that.

And I've always been looking for artists. I would go out too. Every day I'd get off of school and drive around 285, which is just a big circle in Atlanta, and just drop CDs off on consignment. And so that's how I learned how to do mixtapes just going to stores and having a very inferior product and giving it to the owner and somebody like Tobago at DVS Sound, shout out to Tobago uh in Riverdale. I would give him a CD and he'd be like, Why is there no writing on it? And I would say, uh I don't know. He's like, What if it gets mixed up with other CDs? I was like, next time I came, I'd write it on the CD. there you go. And so it was just like learning on my feet. And you know, one time I did a uh something, I don't think I paid attention to the way something was blending on one of the tapes, and Playboy Trey was like, Did you do that on purpose? He was like, What was that? And so I went back and listened. I was like, nah, I really didn't, you know. So it just made me be like, all right, nothing is gonna slip by me. I gotta pay attention. I gotta, even if I don't know what any of this stuff means, decibels, I didn't know anything about sound quality. So for me to release music knowing nothing about it, it's kind of kind of crazy.

It is kind of crazy looking back. to be like, I didn't know anything. And me messing up, swing my door, which I just normalized all the songs. I put them in this program called MP MP3 Gain and normalized it, which just like puts everything right up to zero same, yeah. Yeah, and so what was the loudest thing? The 808. So it just slams the 808. It it just made everything sound weird. But to this day, people are like, yo, what did you do to that bass? Like I didn't produce the songs, but I definitely fucked it up. And that's what people love about it. Or you gave it the defining characteristic of it. Yeah, like if I wouldn't have done that, so many people were like, yo, man, that shit broke my speakers. I'm like, my bad. I'm expecting for them to say something bad. And they're like, no, thank you. It was an experience. Like I needed that. Yeah, like it was a whole thing. I was like, so I don't know. It's very something interesting about being um uh I guess kind of naive or something like that, and just doing it and just starting. Stumbling in into stuff and yeah. I was like, I knew enough that I didn't want it to go above zero. So that's why I found that program.

And then later on, I'm like, oh, you don't have to do it necessarily that way. And then I learned about limiters, but this was until years later. It's crazy because so many people don't start doing something in fear of that they're not good enough yet and they don't know what they're doing, and they just spend so much time researching and like trying to get better. It's like there's something to be said about just starting. Yeah. It's literally taking that first step and like you're gonna fuck up, you know, and you're gonna learn. But that's like the beauty of it, I feel like. And that's something we talk about a lot, is that like just start. Throw some darts at the board and being okay with it. Yeah, I do these uh hour-long concert consultations, and a lot of times it ends with the artist repeating back to me things I've said to them, which is I need to just release stuff. And I need to because I'm like, you're doing too much thinking without learning on your feet. You have no idea. The thing I love may not be the thing somebody else loves, or vice versa. You don't know until you release it. A lot of people are like, oh, I can do everything. Start releasing some songs and see what people are gravitating towards. Yep.

You can edit a song forever. Some people were just like, yeah, they'll just hang on to stuff forever. And it's like, just release it. Like I was so ignorant at the time, I didn't know to hold back. I didn't. I was just like, oh shit, I got some songs. Here we are. You know, I got some songs and the most beautiful thing that could have happened. Yeah, I'm like, and people told me to do tapes. I was like, oh yeah. Here you go, just kind of like ignorance is bliss in some ways. Like that was beautiful. It was perfect. If I'd have known what I know now, I would not have released as much. I wouldn't have messed up. Swing my door. You know, it's like. Yeah, yes. Yes, you were working at that record store, you know, the mom and pop record store down I guess, south of Atlanta. Yeah, shout out Super Sounds. Super Sounds. And that's kind of where you started doing mixtapes, right? Was you know, while you're working there. What was the process like start to finish for you? Uh early on, it was more exclusive style tapes, like kind of like I said, the gangster grills model. And so I'll just find different artists and be like, yo, I'd hit them up and be like, Do you have any songs you haven't released? That's what the exclusives were an unreleased song from an artist. how did you hit them up at this point? Tactically speaking, like how were you actually doing it?

I would just find somebody who knew somebody. I've always been resourceful in that manner. Yeah. Of just like the yellow pages and shit like that. Like, shout out to the Yellow Pages. Yeah, the basics, you know? the basics of you know, like now I'd be hustling the DMs or whatever. But yeah, or I'll go and try to find somebody to meet them or find somebody who had met them or knew of them. And then luckily the Super Sounds, the CD store I worked at had three locations. There's one on the South Side, there's one in Decatur, and one in Greenbriar. So you kind of had like There was one everywhere. And for those that don't know, like when east side, west side, south side of Atlanta, right? Yeah. And then when when, like, when OutKast came out with Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, I was at the Greenbriar location while they were doing the signing behind the counter standing beside Andre the whole fucking time. Oh That was me. that was me. It was me. I was standing right beside him. Is there a video of that somewhere? There's there's a picture somewhere for sure. Okay. But I was like. If you see a goofy guy with glasses, it was Burn one behind Andre. Which is full circle because Big Boy was right beside him.

And then like three years ago, we did the first song on the Superfly soundtrack. They did a reboot for the Superfly movie. And we did a song with Sleepy Brown and Scar from Death of Pellet. Oh, wow. And Big Boy was the reason why I went on the album. Wow. Yeah, okay. So you'd hit these people up. They'd agree. They'd agree to let you. They would say, Yeah, here's a song I got. And I would just go ahead. Why would they trust you? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, at the time, now mixtapes are slowly starting to become a thing. Like I said, Gangsta Grillz, drama, and canon, all of them has started dropping mixtapes. And then other people like Scream, Black Bill Gates. There's all these people that are starting to crop up that are releasing these things. And now it's working. And now it's a thing of you want to get your songs on mixtapes. Kind of like now how people wanna get their songs on playlist. It's the new cool thing. You wanted to be on the mixtapes. Yeah, yeah. But so you'd hit them up. They, they'd agree to it. So, like, so, like, Young Dro. Let's take young Dro. This is a prime example. Uh, because the the exclusive tapes was just me reaching out to people. I get 15 songs, put it together. The series was called Grill

in the Trunk. And so I had like a bunch of different grill in the trunks. And um, like TI hosted my second one when I was in uh my senior year in high school. And so that was what really gave me like legitimacy, and then I could finally start going to Grand Hustle and start being in a real studio. Before then, I was just at the house. I had people recording at my house, but it was just like a little Radio Shack mic and whatever. That was the first time I saw Pro Tools and Big Country showed me. Like uh I asked him, I was like, What's the yellow thing? He's like, it's a kick, man. I was like, What's the red thing? That's a snare. On Pro Tools, yeah. Yeah, I'm still like, I don't know what any of that stuff is. Once I started going around Grand Hustle, that that allowed me there just to let me just be the guy in the back of the room, like just this kid. Yeah, he was like, who's this fucking kid in here? Because I was just keeping everything going, just sitting in the back, you know, just asking questions. And Dro, this guy keeps coming in, he's like a larger than life character. Yeah. I was like, man, this guy's so funny. I love Dro. Let's do a mixtape. He was like, I don't really have any songs like that.

And so I kind of went through some of his older material and grabbed a couple songs. And then I was like, I'll just start giving you beats. And I wasn't even producing at the time, so I got him beats like 8 Ball and MJG and the Lincoln Park and Jay-Z join, and just a bunch of different beats. So I would just pull up every day. I didn't even have his number. He was just like pull up on me every day. I was like, every day. We're just rolling the dice hoping he's around. Yeah, and I'm driving from like McDonough at this point. Wow. To downtown Atlanta every time. Just on pure face. So just driving up there sitting. Please be there. Please do that. Sitting and then hoping he comes through. And more times than not, he would come through with a crate and he would just have all these rhymes. And he'd be like, pull some beats up a crate of notebooks? Yeah. Wow. Of just bars. Wow. Just bars, not even songs, just straight raps. Not in any order. No, no bar length or nothing. Just so you could be like, all right, say this four. And then the first two of this one. If I knew what I know now, but back then it would just, he would just be like pull a beat up and then he would just rifle through. Yeah. And be like, land on one, that sounds good. Yeah, he was like I got it. He would just go in there and lay it down, and I'll be like, awesome.

It's like song roulette, bro. It's crazy. Just flip through some options. And so then we uh I put all those together, make some of his old songs and some of the new stuff. And it just so happened the week that uh the tape came out, shoulder lane got serviced to radio. And so it got put in rotation at hot 1079. And like a week later I saw him, he was like, Yo, man, thank you. He's like, everybody's saying they're a fan of me now. He was like, the song people like shoulder lane. He's like, but people said the mixtape, they're a fan of me. He's like, nobody's ever told me I'll have fans. And I was selling him on a body of work just because I always loved albums growing up. Yeah. I was like, if you had a body of work, I'm like, you're wrapping your ass off. If you had a body of work that people could be, and so kind of like mixing some of the old with the new, it kind of gave people like, oh shit, this dude's dope. It's like a third dimension or the fourth dimension, you know. You can become a fan of an artist. You can think you like an artist off a hot single, but to be able to like experience a project is definitely another level. But all so how were you killing it though? So obviously you were working at the record store and you were trying to be in a community. Every day. I'm going out to these stores.

I'm telling you, every day I'm going out to these stores learning and applying. And so I would drop because the way consignment works is you drop 20 CDs off. Then you'd probably wait a week or two and then come back and they'll be like, oh, I sold 15, and then you drop off another, they'll give you the money for that, and you drop off another five, fifteen or whatever. Um and so through that, just the consistency of how much I was releasing, because I was dropping these grill in the trunks like every I don't know, maybe every two months. Yeah. And so it's like a lot of material to consistently have out. And then I started doing the artist stage. And just driving to every CD store in the Metro Atlanta area. Every single one. Every single one. And back then, like now there's not. Entrepreneurial spirit, man. It's very weird. Now there's not any. So that's sad. But back then, I could just spend uh just drive up and just hit the south side and hit DBS Sounds and two other stores because I'm gonna stay and talk. I'm gonna kind of learn because I know I'm still like soaking. Yeah, I'm soaking game every time because I know they know way more than me.

And if I just kind of am just around them, so sometimes I would just hang out in the store. Yeah, so you mentioned Gucci. Let's let's just go ahead and talk about Mr. Gucci Mane. So is it true that you actually got him into doing mixtapes? Yeah, yeah. If if you read his autobiography, uh he tells the story in there of how I basically told him all about mixtapes and the blueprint of how he could use it for what he was doing. So do we have burn one to thank for all these low key for these Gucci mixtapes? Are you kidding me now? Yeah, he did the work. He did the work. Of course he did. Give us the cliff notes of like from someone who wasn't doing mixtapes. What was the pitch? Like, what why did you how were you successful in convincing him to do it? So to pick up from So to pick up from uh him playing me so icy in that moment I asked him, let's do a mixtape. And he was like, What's that? He didn't even know. No idea what it was. Crazy. And so I was like, I explained it to him. Had no idea what it was.

I explained it to him, and he was like, All right. He's like, I don't want to do that. I'm focused on my album. I was like, I appreciate the honesty. A lot of people would just blow smoke up your ass with me later and then make you call him a thousand times and no pickup. I was like, This is great. I loved him not bullshitting me. Yeah. I was like, all right, cool. And so a year later, um, I think uh he had gone to jail for something and got out and then released a song and it didn't do too well. And it's kind of one of those things. If you release one single on Atlanta, we've had a lot of one hit wonders. So I think people were kind of writing him off in that lane. Um and he hit me up out of the blue. He was like, Hey, what was that thing you were talking about again? I was like, a mixtape? He called a mixtape. Yeah, he was like, let's do that. And so in the book, it picks up with me. Uh, you know, we're leaving Zay's house, and I was telling him all about how 50 Cent was releasing mixtapes and doing shows and getting show money, and he didn't have to worry about a label because he wasn't putting out full albums with all the stuff that that entails. Yeah, he was putting out this. So point I knew he would go for the money aspect, right?

Yeah, absolutely. I'm like, you could just get straight to the fans, and you can worry about your own show money, and then the album stuff y'all can work out, you know how you work it out. And so that was very appealing to him because he was at that point, he's beefing with the label. Um unbeknownst to me. Yeah, like they're they're not getting along. So this was like great timing. This is the thing the fucking kid said. He's like, Let's run that. And so I told him about it, and then we spent the next month. He gave me a bunch of songs, and then we got in and recorded a lot and spent a lot of time. But so tell us like the Greenbriar Mall, like promo story for chicken Talk. Like, this is a legendary story. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, we're at the discount mall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The discount mall. Okay, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. So the discount mall. So around that time, so we did Chicken Talk. Yeah so it was you and Gucci at the mall, right? I took the cover for it, and executive produced it, decided to make it two CDs because he wanted to make it one album. I was like, the no limit thing is kind of too old. I was like, let's just do two CDs. And so we went to the discount mall. The first day we got him pressed up. Me and him and my RAV4. I think I was in a RAV4. either that or the little red truck, one of them. And we went uh I went inside, he stayed in the car.

And I remember taking like 40 of these double discs in there. And at the time we would wholesale them for like two a piece for single, but because it was a double, it'd be like four. Is it 20 units? 20 plus About 20, yeah. So I had like 20 and at like $4 a piece. Okay, but they were used to getting them for two dollars a piece because they were single. And so I told him, uh, I was like, yo, I got this new Gucci man. They said Who? They looked at it. He was like, How much you want for it? I was like, $4 wholesale, you know, four wholesale. He was like, uh man, I don't know if I want this. He's cold, and like gave it back to me, like kind of in a in a movie-ish, you know, like pushing back on me, like get the fuck out of here, kid. Because I was still young at the time. Yeah, and um took an L right there, and uh I was like, All right, I I knew this shit was dope. I was like, I didn't know what it would be, but I was like, I knew it was dope. I'm like, all right, cool. So I walked out to the car. He didn't know I had Gucci in the car with me. By the time I get out there, he's got the Gucci's got chicken talk cranked in the car, and everybody's surrounding the car. Yeah, and I was like hey started a parking lot party, yeah.

And so we just start selling them in the parking lot. Free promo, just right there. Just start selling a couple, and it's not enough, it's like maybe 15 people around. But we're starting to sell them, and the dude walks out and he sees what's going on. He's like, Man, let me get 40 of them. Wow. I just heard that story and I was like, that's fucking awesome. Make you a believer, yeah. So throughout this whole time, you know, starting to do the mixtape thing, right? Were you producing at that point? No. No, I didn't. Other than the stuff in acid that was the blends and you know, whatever. You know, not really Not making beats. producing and making beats, really, right? No. I I didn't start producing until like maybe 2007. I mean, I remember when we were doing chicken talk, I was just starting to mess around with reason. But it was all like weird 80s pop beats. Did you ever try and play beats? That's not not any of mine because I was just doing weird 80s retro pop shit. Like it sounded like super early Calvin Harris. Like, I don't know if you heard any of Calvin Harris like super early stuff, which sounds like crazy retro.

It's actually really dope. But it sounds kind of like that. Kind of disco. So not in the vein of Gucci. Fuck no, it was not. And it was just pure exploration. I was just finding stuff and being like, oh, that's cool. And then you just leave it and start a new thing before you got past eight bars or something like that. So when did the production thing start, you know, picking up? Like, was there a certain artist that you started to work with that kind of set it off for you, or like a project you were tapped in with? Like, you know, kind of when did the production career of yours, you know, kind of jumpstart? I think around oh seven, oh eight, I think I kind of just started being like um not thrilled with the music I was getting. I was working with fire rappers like Freddie Gibbs and Pill and Love Gibbs, all these artists. I was working with them, but it just not their beats, but just a lot of beats, period. I just wasn't liking. I feel like there was a time in hip hop where people got away from sampling so much, and they're using keyboards, but they don't really know how to play the keyboard. So it's kind of just like plinky plunky and the beats aren't very memorable.

There was like a whole space of a couple years of that before original sample creators or loop makers, whatever you want to call them, um before they started being prevalent. So it was just like not a good time for music. And I was like, instead of me complaining about it, let me just uh take a year off and make five beats a day. And so that's what I did. Let me just show them how it's supposed to be done. Did you miss a day? You know, I wish I could I wish I would have just marked a calendar, but honestly, for what I remember. I remember it being five that's a lot of people. I don't remember like missing. damn I don't remember like missing time or feeling like ever like, oh man, I'm not keeping my word Henry it's almost 2000 beats. Do you hear that? Yeah, I can't I can't say I've done it, but it's very inspiring. And they're not all winners, but you go back and you're like, shit. I like work through me sounding like my heroes. Yes. Yeah. I was able to kind of work through that. which is still kind of here, like you hear, um, because I wasn't planning on doing anything with those beats from that first year, but Starlito got the beats from Renaissance Gangster from that year, and then A$AP Rocky got Houston Oldhead and rolling up from that same batch too.

So Houston Oldhead was you, yeah. Okay. So okay. That was it that's awesome. I actually just listened to an A$AP Ferg interview and like just hearing all about the early A$AP mob shit was like super dope. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was super dope to be a part of that. They were they were trying new stuff that was like not typical New York shit. You know, they were hopping on Houston, like, you know, you know, tight beats and just all different kinds of shit, which was like, you know, you know, Midwest beats and shit. So obviously jumping on something that you made, you know, you weren't a New York producer by any means. So I think I feel like that's kind of in that same vein. They broke some ground. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I had a blog called Boulevard Street that I created that same year because I was like, I need a hobby. I was like, let me just talk about the music that I'm finding. And so for all the music, I brought some writers on and stuff. And so it was just a blog where we posted music. And that's where I actually first heard uh of Rocky. It wasn't even ASAP Rocky at the time. It was just Rocky. Just Rocky. Yeah. It was a song called Being Around the World. I think Yam sent it to me. And I was like, Rest in peace. I remember posting it.

Yeah, rest in peace, he was literally big shout out. Hearing more and more interviews, I didn't know too much about what Yams was doing, but like, holy shit. Making it happen. He was, an architect he was, yeah. I mean, from from the like cultural stuff they were doing and the music stuff. I mean, he was really the kind of maestro like behind the whole the whole movie. he wouldn't know it. He kept it very definitely. So that's that's hard. So you mentioned Starlito. So was that kind of you think like the Renaissance Gangster Project? Was that kind of what kicked things off for you? Like you know, on the producer side of things? For production, hell yeah. Because for a while I was trying to make this thing happen called Mick Vegas. And it was gonna be a production team. Okay. I just like the thought of multiple people being called a one one person's name. Like Travis Porter. Yeah, right. Exactly. Like I love that. I love that. It's so dope. And so I was like, Mick Vegas will be like a crew of like dope musicians and me. Yeah. You know, like and it'll be fire. And then it ended up just kind of like me producing under a pseudonym for a while. You were in Mick Vegas.

Yeah, because it was just me. And I hadn't recruited anybody yet, you know. And so I was like he was a visionary though. He knew it was good. No, because obviously you end up you end up building a production too. I did as soon as I killed it off. As soon as I let that dream die of McVegas, I was like done. That's why on Renaissance Gangster Starlito will start to say, RIP McVegas, welcome back, burn one. That's hilarious. Cause I was like, I told him I was like, done trying to make this thing happen. I was like, I'm trying to make this fucking production crew happen. And as soon as I let that go, I I'd already knew Walt, but we got back in contact, and then shout out Walt, yeah, and shout out Ricky. Yeah, and so we formed you know DJ Burn One and the Five Points Bakery from that point on. and that became what I wanted McVegas to be. Yeah. What's the the uh I guess origin of the five points bakery name? Uh you know, the five points bakery, we always say we cook up fresh, no GMOs. Uh I love everything from scratch. You know when I heard that fresh ingredients, I was like, that is hard. Fresh ingredients, everything from scratch, organic.

I feel like gluten-free. It's kind of like we're real live chefs in the kitchen when we're working, like for real. Like the way we add the stuff and then season it and all that stuff is very good. Everyone has their specialty, yeah. Kind of add what they do best. And I like the five points vibe just because I feel like every time when I was on tour, there's a place called Five Points in like every city, yeah. Every place, and it was always like not trendy, but it was always a place where everybody was accepted, and it was just like the more unique you are, the cooler you are. That's I like that. That was a cool vibe. That is cool. And so I was like, I like that thought of uh, and then just put the five points Bakery together. Yeah, what's what's the team dynamic like? Like, you know, what are some of the pros of having a team, like you know, production-wise, and then do you see any things that you guys struggle with? Because it seems like for me it would be hard, but I don't know. It's just man, it's all pros. It's all pros. It's all pros, you know, because it's fire because we all create on our own as well, like we create together and then we create on our own. So if anybody's down or life's going on, it's like fuck I didn't I didn't make any beats this week or whatever.

Ricky's then sent me fucking 20 beats or Walt doesn't send some beats, or you hold each other up every time. Every time, and it doesn't miss. It doesn't miss. Two can be down, and somebody else is just like shooting, shooting. It's like it's almost like when you take if you have that week off and someone sends you some stuff that they've been doing that week, it reinvigorates you and re-motivates you to then go hard that next week. Absolutely. It's just cycles. Yeah, I was down with the flu last week, and um Ricky was sending me heat, and I had to bring the NPC up to the bed. I got the MPC, uh live too. You just cut the speaker on. Sounds great. It's better than a beats pill. So I just sat there in the bed and made me like six beats. Bedbeats are underrated. That's dedication. I've started a couple beats in bed, and it's a different vibe. Really? He was sick though, not just sleepy, okay, Henry. Sick beats for real. Yeah, exactly. No, but the team vibe is great. Um, you know, at the time it was me, Walt Live, go Ricky going, the professor, and he was playing bass, Ricky's playing guitar, and Walt plays keys and sax and uh harmonica and some other instruments. And so um, one of us will do the drums, and then we'll kind of come in.

Now, uh, if we're not together, we kind of create and just create. But when we're together, we try to plug in and play. And so we do this show at Tree Sound called Tree Church of Sound. And Yeah. And so, basically, what we're doing, we've released a couple episodes, but what we're doing is us and the crew and whoever else is around plugs in on these vintage instruments up at Tree Sound. We got like Fender Rhodes, Wurlitzer, uh B3, Leslie organ, baby grand, um, you know, amps and all that good stuff, different synths. The lineup. Yeah, and so we all plug in and we'll just jam for like a couple hours, sometimes one, sometimes the stretches of four hours, and then we'll have a special guest producer like DJ Toomp. We have his episode up, DJ spins. We have an episode up with him, uh, M16. We just shot one, it's super dope. You know, we talked about the kind of mixtape era for you. Talked about kind of getting the production team going. That's obviously alive and well. You hinted at it before, but you know, you were a tour DJ for a little while. Yeah.

You've supported a few different artists, right? Who are the few artists that you've I've toured with uh Bubba Sparks, Yellow Wolf, and Rittz. Okay. Were you on the road with him around Trunk Music Time? Yeah, yeah. We went on tour with Wiz Khalifa right when Kush and Orange Juice came out. Oh my god. Yeah. It was the deal and no deal tour. Man. That's hard. I would love to go back in time and see that show, man, that's gotta be crazy, any of them? It was a dope vibe. Especially the college shows. Those are super dope. But it was interesting because at the time we didn't really know who he was. And so we're out there who Wiz was. Yeah. And I remember he's packing out these thousand, thousand people venues easy. And people knew all the words to these songs. And I have not heard these songs. He had one single to say yeah. And he wasn't even performing that, I don't think. He was doing all mixtape shit. Wow. Um, I think how Fly was out with currency. Yeah. One of my favorite collab mixtapes. Clear the Runway, baby. I remember that. I remember watching that.

I was like, I'm fucking with that, whatever that song is. Yes. And then he was doing um, he started doing mesmerized off cushion orange juice. And I was like, damn, that shit should be. That's one of my favorite songs. Like and like halfway through it came out. So it was interesting seeing like somebody and being like not knowing anything about him to him just dropping a classic tape while you're on tour. You're like, oh like that's how I met Cardo. That's how I met Cardo. I know. It was interesting because at that time. I'm a mixtape game. Yeah, and and on the internet, the internet game. I mean, I'm really surprised that you didn't that you ran into someone that was The only thing I can attribute it to is sometimes I go in a bubble when I'm trying to learn. Yeah, maybe the producer, bubble you were in, so sometimes I don't always Like I saw Frank Dukes had sent me a DM like some years ago saying he loved our work. He was a fan. I was like, Oh, you missed that for years. Bro, this was before he blew up, too, I think. Or like maybe one of the first years. I was like, Frank, Frank Dukes. I'm like Frank Dukes. We'd love to have you on the podcast. Yeah, I'll let you boy. bro, yeah, holler at your boy. And send Burn One's DM back, please. Yeah, I know I hit a

return eight years later. I was like, How did I miss this? But sometimes while you know, because really when we got together, like what was it like when we formed? We were together four or five days a week jamming for 15 hours a day. Crazy. That's absolutely what it was. Wild, damn, for at least like two years. So that's why I like the 5B today is like that was nothing. Yeah, well, that was just a warm-up to Yeah. What was the output like? Like, how many songs were you guys working on? We were doing a lot of stuff. And around that time, we're producing Scotty's first project, Summer Dreams. Scotty ATL. We found Scotty shout out, over at Block Studio, him and Jacquees, and Scotty had a song. I was like, yo, I like the song. he was like, let's do a tape. And then we did Summer Dreams, and that went to like SPIN's top 50 projects of the year, and all this stuff just out the gate. So were you producing though for Scotty at that point? Yeah, and we were producing for Rittz. So when he said, let's do it, So we were doing like Ritz's first project, like his first two projects. Uh, what was it?

White Jesus. White Jesus. The one that came out on Strange. We were producing all that stuff. Um, yeah, we had a lot, like around that time, we released like a lot of music. Yeah, a lot of music. That's the key, I think. I mean, 15 hours a day, four or five days a week, you better. A lot of stuff, yeah. Ricky and Walt released and D face Project, Ricky dropped the album. We dropped some instrumental projects, the Ashtray. That did real good. The Ashtray is actually, I'm probably rare here, but the Ashtray was my first exposure to you. I I just really attribute it to the time I was like getting into weed and starting to smoke, and I'd be in my car a lot of times when I would roll up, and I remember being into Gucci mixtapes, Wayne mixtapes, and that kind of stuff. And I was just looking for like stuff to kind of smoke to when I was like sneaking, you know, parking my car in some neighborhood and smoking a blunt shout out those days, man. Shout out. And I just remember seeing DJ Burn one, the Ashtray. And I was like, this sounds about what I need, this is probably right. Like, this is probably just what I need.

And and I I remember like just not even it just repeating forever and just me losing like track of time. So that was a lot of fun. I feel like not a lot of people maybe discovered you from your instrumental tapes, though, right? Yeah, different ways. Yeah. Probably from hosting more so a lot of people. Well, yeah, a lot of people listen to the Ashtray. That got out there a lot. Shout out to my boy John Gotti, the smoking section. Shout out. He uh he helped, he did a thing to where you had to like pay with the tweet. It's like all this little stuff as creators we don't think about that it takes somebody how does that work? So it was like a pay with the tweet thing that he had set up through the smoking section, his blog at the time, because this is blog era. And so basically to download it, you could download it for free, but you would have to give your it access to your Twitter. So it would say, I listen to DJ Wow. Like that right there, I think got people like you to see it because none of our stuff has ever really been promoted like that outside of us just releasing it through our avenues. We never like put a whole bunch of money into advertising and stuff like that. So I think just that alone got way more eyes on it than people who would just listen to it and maybe tell their homies about it, but not tweet about it.

So you've talked about a bunch of different things that you've had your hand in. I mean, you alluded to the um, you know, work that you did on the superfly reboot, right? With with Big Boy and Sleepy. Yeah, that's hard. Obviously, you've been, you know, recording at you know, a young age, you've done some mixing, producing, tour DJ, you know, all these different things. I mean, you've been considered like a like a renaissance man, if you will. I mean, you really do have your hands in like a lot of different things. Are there any other like things that you know you kind of have been getting into recently that you know are different revenue streams for you or like opportunities? You know what I mean? NFTs! Come on, bro! NFTs, shout out, NFTs. NFTs, air horn, that bad boy. A couple times. NFTs. NFTs, if anybody gets anything, because it's the way artists are gonna take back ownership in the digital age. Yep. Exactly. Fans will become the label. It's gonna be beautiful. Absolutely. I have uh homies like Domino who are allowing people to mint at their own rate.

His song. Um his song meant his song, and so now you have a copy of his song, you're supporting him for far more than uh you know what a normal album buy or something like that would be. Or streaming it however much you would stream. He's crushing it, you know, and it's like there's all these different platforms like async. I don't know if anybody's familiar with async art to where it's like they you put it up there and break it down into stems, and then people can buy different versions. Maybe this has the drums and the bass. That's crazy. This one doesn't have the vocal. Bro, it's crazy. I just applied yesterday for the second time. Async art get me in here. Come on, get me in there, async art, you're shouting you out. Shameless plug. We'll give you a shameless plug. He'll make it worth it for you. Clearly a hard worker. Come on, bro. We're gonna do some dope shit. Like, so would you say NFTs are the next, like when you saw mixtapes really early, this is the next thing you're seeing? Yes, kind of absolutely. Like NFTs and the blockchain, yeah.

Are a way what did they say a way to show digital provenance? Like the the way, like imagine if you could be like first, and it's like there's it's on the ledger. The whole appeal of the blockchain is that it's immutable, it's not gonna change. So when something goes on there and you say you created this token, that happened. And everybody can see it. It's proof, and everybody can see it. So it's like now you can really share artwork and all these different ways. Like the way there's all these new collectors of people who have so much crypto money, people who got it on Bitcoin when it was five dollars or whatever it was. Shout out my buddy Pat. Shout out Pat Ethereum, all that. Yeah, there's all these people and they want to support artists. And so now it's like if you do 3D art, if you do um drawings, if you do any type of art, music, you can go online, and there's people who will pay you money. I saw uh my boy Rome Fortune shout out Rome, I sold a music video the other day. Um came out with a new music video and sold it.

I'm like, that's super dope. Yep, that's super dope. Like people don't realize they think it's all about the art. It's the contract, it's the smart contract that's that it proved that it's the record of it on the blockchain that's powerful and can have its perks, and people can get really creative with how they do it. Yeah, and so like one thing that I've I did and that we've done a lot of is collaborations. We found different visual creators and um like Noah in Korea, South Korea. We did like a three minute time lapse piece. He shot it in Seoul, and it was just like all these time lapses of people walking through these kind of like cyberpunk style cities, and so we scored it and sold it for a couple Ethereum. Wow, you know, it was up for a couple months and then it finally sold. But uh, we find but we've been finding different dig dip visual creators to work with, but now platforms have automatic splits. And so, say you have music and you're missing a creator or something like that, go on Twitter, Twitter's where it's happening, Twitter and Discord. Um and find somebody of the other side. You can just release a song or you can just release art.

Either one, but I find they kind of help each other, at least to get the ball rolling for you in it. So other than NFTs, are there any other like things that you're excited about, like that could, you know, potentially transform music or just that are kind of going on in the industry? And by the way, I I my most viral TikTok is about NFTs. A lot of people know me as an NFT guy, which is not exactly what I am. But I I share your opinions. Kind of talking about how they can replace labels. Yeah. And like you know, doing like a hypothetical scenario with some crazy numbers, talking about making a million dollars instantly with for some, you know, a little bit of clickbait sprinkled in there. And that went kind of crazy. So I'll probably post a clip of this and people are gonna just continue to think I'm the NFT guy, but we'll take that for now. But if you want someone who really knows a lot about NFTs, hit up DJ Burn One. Yeah. Well, the cool thing also too about NFTs um is that you can gain you can give access, special access. That's what I'm talking about in the Yeah.

So as I'm doing this master class, I'm wondering if I should release this, because the pre-order is closed until I release it here in a couple weeks. So I'm wondering if when I release it, if I don't release it, it as an NFT, and some type of access comes with that. Because you see, uh like UFC wrestlers, they'll give you like a ticket to their fight. You get You get like a 3D model every show. Like a 3D model for your wallet for your crypto wallet. Yeah, and then you get a ticket to the show, and then you get to meet them backstage. It's crazy. Every fight, as long as you hold the NFT. It's crazy. And then you can transfer it to someone, and then they get the access. that means this can be anything. Anything cool. That means this can be anything. So my mind is is open for this masterclass of like, damn. It tells us about the masterclass. So it's something I've been wanting to work on for a while. I've done a lot of like seminars and talking and showing people stuff. And like consultations you do a lot of consultations. And I feel like there's a lot of similarities with a lot of things. And then also I just want to put everything in one place for people who care. Yeah.

Just for people who care. I thought a while I was gonna do YouTube content and all that. I'm just not consistent enough to release video content. It's pretty relatable. I'm not maybe I could batch something, you know what I'm saying? But I'm like, I can't consistently do it gets it, man. We're having flashbacks right now. Yeah, I can't. PTSD from Henry. Realized that maybe the YouTube consistency is a little bit tougher than a lot of people envision. I want to do so much with every video. It's long form, you know. I want it to be like entertaining. It takes a lot of time. It's a long time. It's a commitment to me. can do a TikTok a day, though. That's exactly what led me to the master class because I'm like, Yes. Well, then I'll just make all the content up front. Yeah, you just package it. And then I could put it all in one place. And then after that, if we got questions, we could talk questions. But I feel like it's there's so much that at this point I take for granted. And I see it every time we work with a new musician or a new producer or somebody who's struggling later on, and trying to just find inspiration. They keep using the same sounds.

Like there's certain producers we've helped like revitalize their sound and give them the sounds that like, oh shit, that's wild, this was sound I've been looking for, like people we look up to. Yeah. And then working uh likewise with people like David Banner, who I engineer for him, and we've been working on the God box too. Shout out ABV. ABV. A banner vision. A banner vision. Uh and is that his like label or production company or What? Yeah, production company. Okay, cool. Yeah. And bro, he's he's so on me about getting it to sound big and bright and in your face. And he's really pushed me to be great, you know. And so it's nice to have a collaboration like that of somebody that like pushes you and you know, keeps you out of your comfort zone. Yeah, absolutely. Shout out David Banner, wow. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have guessed that, but I love that. Yeah, so it is it's a master class on producing, right? Yeah, so what's you know, what's kind of the theme behind it? So it's on producing, all the way from working with artists to working with musicians, dealing with egos, dealing with the business side of it. Oh, cool.

Some of that deal, yeah. It's important. Yeah, it's like we're gonna go deep on that no one talks about A lot of people don't like to talk about it. That honestly matters so much more than the fucking technical ones and twos of like placing a kick drum in the right place, hell man. I mean, I don't know, and once again, I'm not a producer, but like just kind of you know, witnessing that stuff, like how do you live with having big checks and then being in between and not having them? Oh, the inconsistency of royalty trying to live off of placements is a nightmare. Yeah, and there's and there's all types of stuff that that runs the gamut of just um you know, like I said, business and all that, but then we'll get into arrangement and music and how to create your own samples, drums, just everything top to bottom, literally everything I could think about, yeah, but just as concise as possible and just showing different options. That's that's what the master class is called options, options, yeah. That's the theme. So so it's just like because I always feel like just as a producer, we have a tool belt. And then the more techniques and stuff we learn, it's just more tools, you know, more options.

Yeah, you could be like, oh shit. Well, for this one right here. Yeah, you got plenty of ammo. Yeah, like I was filming the other day and I was showing uh intros of like different ways. Uh if you just have just the music loop playing for eight bars or the drums in the in the loop is already playing, or if you hear the drums by themselves, and then uh then the music stops and then the beat comes in. Or all that, plus a snare really loud right before the the drum the one. Yeah, that's even that's the best, you know. It's like putting all that together. How do you get to this point? And then maybe you don't need all those, maybe you don't need the big snare on this one or whatever. But now you see how we got to that point, and now I'm just showing you this is how you make an impact right here. Cause I like to look at songs as like a roller coaster. So it's like you're kind of going up the hill, then the drop, and then all that. Um but I was listening to Sting talk the other day, and he was saying uh arrangements to him are like storytelling. So it's like the bridge is his moment for redemption before the last hook, you know, and I'm like, damn, that's dope.

You know, but I kind of look at it in that way too. It's just like you're telling the story by the way the song builds and changes. I love growing up on albums like Aquimini. Yes, uh, shout out to Organized Noise, those are some of my big brothers. Yes. Um and man, just hearing that, it's like, oh man, you can really do that. So I feel like I just overall want the world to have better music. Yeah, you know, and it's one of those things of like there's so many things that are just so second nature to me. To where I get I'm like, oh, you don't know how to you don't know that. And I learned stuff too. I learned stuff every day. But I'm like, I have so much that I've just accumulated over just obsessively watching interviews and master classes and being being able to sit up under people like DJ Toomp and just watch him make beats for a long time. We were actually talking the other day, too. Sometimes it's it's very simple stuff. We were talking about how, you know, I guess someone said it it only takes a third grader to teach a second grader. Stuff that might even feel like second nature to us, but it could really help someone just by talking about it.

You know, he mentioned the roller coaster that that has been his uh career. I mean, Henry, I think we're on a roller coaster right now for this final segment of the One More Time Podcast. We're on the final segment? We are on the final segment. Okay. Burn one, if you're not familiar with the One More Time podcast, get familiar. It ends with a rapid fire rampage. Shout out to the rapid fire rampage. It's gonna be a three-part rampage. It's gonna start off with some short answer questions. It's gonna be a little this or that. You get a couple options, pick one. It's gonna end off with some word association. I'm gonna give you a word. Give me the first thing off the top of your head right back. Okay. Simple enough, right? Buckle up. The 31st edition of the Rapid Fire Rampage starts now. Ramp. If you could host any artist project today, who would it be? Outcast. You have a thousand dollars.

You have to turn into 2,000 in 24 hours. How do you do it? Crypto. Somebody's gonna be like, this is not financial advice. This is not financial advice. Yeah, we'll put all the legal bullshit in the in the code. It's purely for entertainment. In the description. Yeah. We'll cover your ass. Don't worry. Burn one, give us one possible title of your autobiography. Still smoking. What are three things we would find in your fridge right now? Bacon. Arden's garden drinks. And uh almond milk. Damn, that was boring. Awesome. What do you know? The problem is you put bacon first. You should have kept you. I was like, dude, you had me sold on bacon. It was completely fine. You just the order was wrong. I blacked out after bacon. I didn't build it. I didn't build it for the other two. Burn one, if you were an emoji, which one would you be?

The one that looks like it's cooking. Burn one, describe your sound to a deaf person. Foreign to the ear, but familiar to the spirit. Shout out to Go Ricky Go. Okay. What is one of the best decisions you've ever made? Learning how to make beats. Learn how to make beats. Just taking that year and saying I want to make beats for this this year. And focusing on something. This is what I'm gonna do this year. Yeah, it sounds like a crazy year. Yeah, I was like, I'm just gonna make beats for this year. Yeah. Yeah. And blog. Make beats and blog. Whatever random ass year. Like, that's what's what's your year? I'm gonna make five beats a day and blog. Like that was a beast and blog. That's gonna go great for you, champ. Yeah. It's gonna go down history Insane. It's insane. Seemed great on paper. I didn't. Zero out of ten would recommend. Like this is definitely not financial advice. Yeah, no. Let's uh stay in school kids. Let's go down the roller coaster now. Okay. What is one of the worst decisions you ever made? Oh man, cussing out Gucci, man.

That was a terrible idea. Don't do it. Shout out ASAP. We cussed each other out. It was mutual, but But you meant it one time. I rode for my homie, bro. I didn't think my homie was in the wrong. You know, you can't imagine your homie would. Yeah. You're like, don't believe it. You're like, like no, he wouldn't do that. You just stick up for your homie and you're like, he wouldn't do that. Yeah. And then the argument kind of keeps going and he goes a little left, and you're like, uh. He did it. Yeah. Might be. He definitely did it. You get off the phone, you're like, yo, he said you did this. He's like, yeah, I'm like, you didn't tell me. You didn't tell me You didn't tell me? Goddamn, bro. You should've heard what I was saying to Gucci, homie. Terrible idea. Love you, Gucci. Love you. Shout out, Gucci. How many, it's all love. koala bears would fit in the White House? Two million. Could be accurate. I don't know. Sounds reasonable.

Maybe. On a scale of one to ten, burn one. How weird do you think you are? Man, ten for sure. Love it. Slayed the short answer. Killed it. Killed it, my god. With ease. Only to do one Jeopardy sound. So that was a little preemptive, too. And it was. I was early on that. I was. You're not wrong. Moving on to the this or that portion. Nice. Here we go. Hosting projects or making beats. Making beats. Lemon pepper or hot? Hot. Live bass or 808? Live bass. I got the shirt. Bro, only because I play a little bass myself. I set you up for failure on that one. Only because I play a little bass myself. Great answer. Netflix or YouTube? YouTube all day. Every day. King of YouTube University.

Dogs or babies? Babies. Shout out, babies. I love babies. Memphis rap or Atlanta rap. How could I go against Atlanta rap? But I grew up on Memphis rap. How could I say? We don't ask that, we ask the tough questions here on the One More Time Podcast. It's our job. But if you give me only Atlanta or Memphis Rap, I would pick Atlanta rap, Atlanta rap. If you had to stick with it forever? Yeah. Good answer. But it's it's close. Memphis is right behind Atlanta. If you had to say what's the next city, definitely Memphis. Good answer. You have a 99% chance of winning $100,000 or a 50-50 chance at 100 million. 50 50 at 100 million. Going for it all, people. Risking it for the biscuit. That's right. I like to hear it. Yeah. This is how we assess our the risk profiles of our guests. Well, I was wanting to go on a game show. This is this is doing it. This is kinda good.

This is doing it. Let's go. Yeah. We're killing two birds with one stone. We're getting you an interview and a game show appearance. You're welcome. Thank us later, Burn. Appreciate it. Ethereum NFTs, Cardano NFTs or Solana NFTs. Oh man, come on. Ethereum all day. OG. E2 coming soon. Coming soon. Coming soon. Coming soon. Indica or sativa. Whatever is the one that keeps you up. I never know. Sativa. Sativa. Indica is Indicouch. That's how I've gotten told to remember it. Oh. I think I'm gonna remember that. It's a good one. I've never heard that, but that that works. Yep. Hard drive or cloud storage? I would rather go cloud, but I'm definitely hard drive right now. Definitely both. Yeah. But if you had to pick one cloud, you're putting it in the I would rather. In the ones and zeros in the sky. I would rather. Okay. South side Atlanta or East Side Atlanta? Ooh, South Side. South side. Robots or aliens? Gotta rock with the aliens.

Part two with the rampage. Part two. I've seen, wait. have you seen the robot videos of them dancing and doing all the shit, bro. I can't afford to do that. They're doing too much, right? They're doing too much. They're doing too much now. Why are we like helping them do more? Who is like saying we need to give them more human like shit? Who are those people? Bezos. Who are these scientists? Terrible. Terrible. I see them. They're like jumping around and like doing stuff, and like I'm freaked out. Terrifying. If the aliens save our species from the robots, this podcast will go down in history as the first time that they speculated on that. I'm so happy that you blessed us with that speculation. Putting moments out into the universe. Fair enough. Continue, please. Final part of the Rampage. Word Association. Episode 31. DJ Burn one. Are you ready? Yeah. Here we go with the word association. Rampage. MPC.

Groove. Groove. Water. Great. Water. Aquatic. Okay. Okay, we'll take it. Aquatic. No, great was better. I know. Yeah. Go with your instinct, man. Zaytoven The great. Social media. Love it. Casamigos. Never had it. Lil. Love every rapper named Lil. All of them. Lil. All the Wills. Lil fill in the blank. That's hard. All of them. Lil fill in the blank. France. France. I love their crypto artists. They got a bunch of super dope crypto artists. Okay. Shout out to Polygon. Elliot Bunch, I think is how you say his name. Yeah.

And uh a couple other people out there, but yeah, a lot of dope talent in France. Hell yeah. Shout out. Music school. Wish I could've went. Wish I could've went. went. Can you not still? Are you past that? I mean, he's doing a master class. I mean, if you really He is the music school. It would look bad. Well, it's funny because uh the master class is actually getting adopted and is gonna be a course at a university. Wow. Is that a one more time exclusive? Yeah. That's a one more time exclusive, folks. You know how we love our one more time exclusive. One more time. Can't say the college just yet, but everything is in motion for next year for it to be. That's super dope. my production class taught off of my master class, and uh homie of mine will be up there teaching it. That's crazy, man. Wow. Well done. So you're gonna teach it and it's presenting. No, I have a homie that's teaching it, but they're gonna make uh assignments and stuff based off of mine. It's your curriculum. Yeah, gotcha. It's so cool. Which I already have somewhat of a curriculum on there of what we'll be doing and stuff. So it's like it kind of fits into that.

But then he'll be creating the daily assignments and teaching the class. That's sick. Man, awesome. Yeah, awesome. Pretty dope. Yeah, wow. Congrats. But no, I'm open. I tried to go to uh college at the place where I went to college for a year, and uh they would not let me the music program because I didn't play a fucking instrument. Well, fuck them. Damn, I was already dropping hot tapes. That is a requirement. I'm like, what the fuck are y'all gonna tell me? I got hot tapes in the streets. I got hot tapes. in the streets. It's not enough to know music. They did not give a fuck. They're like, we don't care about your hot tapes. You play guitars. Yeah, they're like, do you know a D minor? I was like, they missed out on DJ Burn One. I should have just said I played something. No one would have done. I would have just bullshitted and been like, yeah. Most likely. That would have been terrible. it would have crashed. Alright, sorry. Okay, we got a few more here on the word association. Blockchain. Immutable. Synthesizer. Hardware. Government. Don't trust them.

Don't trust them. Don't do it. Chicken. Uh grilled. What a rampage. What a rampage. Contrary to popular belief. Tape is not the first thing that comes to mind when the word chicken is said. The answer was a much healthier tape or talk. Sorry. Oh, oh, talk. The answer was talk. Chicken talk tape. But we all about to get some chickens here, like uh at the top of the year. I'm definitely getting some chickens. Real chickens. I got a coop. What do you mean? I got a coop. Like, I'm doing real chicken. Oh, he does live out in the sticks now. Up on the lake. And then what do you do with them? Just get their eggs. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Sure. Get a coop. I guess they'd be kicking it. I don't know. We're gonna find out. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been DJ Burn One on the one more time podcast. What a great conversation, man. Hey, thank you. Really appreciate you, man. It's been a lot of fun.

Your story's incredible. I mean the the effort that you put in to make this shit happen, man. I mean, I think you're like, you know, an obvious uh example of like just putting in the work. I mean, from driving around the fucking city, slinging tapes, you know, to any store that would take them, to you know, taking a year off and making five beats a day and having that like focus and discipline to to you know try and do something new. Uh, that's incredible, man. And I think a lot of people are gonna learn some great lessons from this conversation. Everything up to NFTs and kind of like the next generation of the music industry. Yes. Which I know Henry is is super into, so I'm sure you guys are gonna nerd out about that after we after we rap. But thanks, man. Until next week, Henry, what are we doing? We're getting out of here. we're Getting the fuck out. Peace. Yeah.