Becoming Lightskinkeisha's Go-to Recording/Mixing Engineer ft. Mileage

There was so much doubt creeping in from other people, and you can feel when other people are kind of like, what's he doing? Or uh it's not really working out instantly. It's like nothing in life works out right away. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. We're from Bemo Coops to Piss off. One more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. It's another Thursday. God bless do I love this day. Thursdays. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host. Henry with a three, aka the trap Jack Black. Is that gonna be your go forward? You've used that a couple times in a row now. It's definitely the current thing. Okay. Just maybe keep it fresh, you know. I like it right now. Okay.

It's not old yet, bro. It's fine. Chill. Who do we have here, Henry? Welcoming in on the 24th. 24th episode. It's the Kobe year. Kobe. R.I.P. R.I.P. Kobe. Welcoming in on the 24th episode. Canadian singer, songwriter, Robin Thicke. Robin Thicke. Man, we've had some superstar guests. This podcast is blowing up. Last week was Avril Lavigne. This week is Robin Thicke. So we've had some really good uh folks on the hair in the podcast. It's the hair. It's very nice. I just showered, so. There you go. As one should. In all seriousness, we have producer, mixed engineer, recording engineer, extraordinaire mileage. Yes, sir. Mileage. Mileage is here. That's mileage. We appreciate you coming on the podcast, man. Thank you guys for having me. It's been a long time coming because we've run in the same circles. Different artists you've worked with, Henry's actually worked with.

Oh, yeah. Uh I've put people on to Henry and been like, oh, you gotta work with Henry. And yeah, you got it. Like we didn't even know each other. Without having without even having met. We're gonna dive right in if you're ready. Let's do it. Let's dive. you are born and raised in Savannah, Georgia. That is correct. Shout out Savannah. Yeah, shout out to Savannah. I just want to start out with Shout out to you, baby. I just yeah, I just want to start out with like, what is the Savannah music scene like? I don't know. It's kind of hard to like describe it. Seems like it would be. It's very small, uh, kind of one-laned. Everyone's kind of trying to do the same kind of thing. What is there like a specific genre or something that is common there? Or uh I don't know. To me, it was like a mix of like Florida rap mixed with the Atlanta stuff, you know, because we're kind of in between both those things. So I think a lot of artists are drawing inspiration from both of those kind of things. But um I don't know, just like a lot of people, it feels like a dead end road because you're just like, oh man, you're looking at Atlanta and the Atlanta scene, and you're like, okay, I know I know what I can do up there, but when you're stuck in Savannah, you're kind of just like, ah, I can only do so much because you can feel that there's a peak in a plateau. Sure.

Um, so obviously that reflected off onto me real quick. Yep, yeah. Probably within like a year of working. Yeah. Quickly. And I was like, ah. so you end up going to SCAD, which is in Savannah. For those that don't know, Savannah College of Art and Design. From Atlanta, we heard people, you know, go there, and it seems like so artsy fartsy. Is that like is it as artsy fartsy as it sounds? It definitely is, but I think it's still one of those things. It is how you make it. So you can make it as artsy fartsy or whatever as as did you make it artsy fartsy? I played lacrosse there, so that definitely made it to where we were like the frat group of everything. But still, it's like the hair. I had like a yeah, it's it's the Robin Thicke hair, you know. Yeah, um, it was a good blend of of kind of like best of both worlds to me. So at least like the sports aspect I had that, you know, kind of fraternity kind of feel and all that stuff. And um, you know, but then as far as academics, it was very avant-garde, art school, like what were you studying? Uh I studied sound design there.

Okay, So, four years? So you did study sound design. Did you know like going to SCAD that you A wanted to study that and B that you wanted to be in music? Is that like why you went there? I knew I I had an interest in sound design, but I didn't know that that's like what I was for sure gonna do. So my dad's a graphic designer and he does um printing stuff and all kinds of other like multimedia kind of things. And um my brother's a photographer, my sister's an interior designer, and my other sister's a lacrosse coach. So this whole like wow. Like three of y'all went to SCAD, right? Yeah. Um and then my other sister, she were a SCAD fam. It just ran in the family instance. The genes are strong. Yeah, it was family. Strong artsy fartsy genes. Exactly. Mixed with a little dash of lacrosse. Yeah, it's like all right, we gotta we gotta like split it in between. Yeah. Did you finish the degree? Yeah. So I did all four years. Um and I guess like the the thing a lot of people like get confused is like, oh, it's like SAE or it's like other schools. I'm like, no, I had to take art history and I had to take painting classes and like all these other sculpture things. I'm just like, why am I in this class?

Or like, yo, this is not what I came here for. Like, I'm just trying to make music. So that leads to what I was what I was getting at. People that uh finish like SAE and places like that. I love to ask, was it worth it? For me, I definitely agree and definitely think it was just because it's like it opens your mind up to so many more things as opposed to just studying music for six months at SAE or for a year or whatever, and like again, there's no shame on people that go to that school or anything, but for me, it was like I love being challenged in all these different kinds of ways. And um, you know, again, it for me, it was a degree in sound design. It's not just in like music production, it's you know, for all the stuff on movies and video games and that kind of stuff. Like, there's so much more than you know, like what you would expect. Um, but still it's like, yeah, and the, and the way they spread it out though, it's like, hmm, I probably could have learned it all in like two or three years, but it's nice that you're getting like bite-sized pieces of everything, and you know, it's manageable, and you can like actually have a life outside of it as well. And then did you make any like connections or meet any people that you that benefited you still to this day? Yeah, absolutely.

Um, but the craziest part, no one in the music industry. Wow, the whole thing with the SCAD stuff. Well, no, you met Reed. I mean, yeah, like shout out to the shout out, really. Don't don't forget about Reed. No, I'm like, yeah. So like we had a very small niche musical group. But yeah, you guys were like using and abusing your parents' house. Oh, yeah. Like, dude, I mean, because where else? It's like I know, but it but it's like there was no other I I was hearing stories about like I mean, you were having sessions there, the whole shebang. The whole shebang, you were having like film shoots, You were shooting like movies. We shot like a yeah, student film there. Yeah, shout out mom and dad. Yeah, I mean parents are real ones, for that. paint us the picture of like your first recording setup. Uh really, uh I had like an old cartons on the wall. No, luckily, luckily, yeah, I didn't, bro. No, no room treatment at all. My bed was still in there um in my bedroom, and I had like an old kind of like have you guys seen like a painter's easel? Yeah, like a wooden painter's easel.

So it was like a mix between that and a desk. And I don't know, it was just something we had in our shed. And mom was like, Here, you can use this. I'm like, uh okay, whatever. Like, it doesn't matter. I'm like, can I put can my laptop fit on it? You know, and can my little scarlet focus right fit on that? Shout out focus right for that one. Shout out focus, right? I think that's like everyone's starting interface. For sure. The blue one, right? Back in the day, because now they're red. Mine was red. Oh, you got the red one to start, yeah. Yeah, I guess I'm you're dating yourself. I'm younger than you. Yeah. Like, oh how old are you? Uh 24. Yeah. Yeah. See, I'm a young whippersnapper. The blue one though. I'm like, that's dope. I didn't even know they had a blue one. Before they were called Scarlet. I would have chose that. You're that old. You had the blue focus light. See, we can get a whole nother podcast going on. Just about the focus of the sounds. Right. Yeah. But like, so you had like the closet booth, right? Oh yeah. And I mean, it was like, all right, you just go in the closet. My clothes are in there. And you were like having rappers. You were like having rappers pull up. Dude, every day, yeah.

And at least like yeah, your parents were four or five people a day. It was yeah, I mean, your parents said like they'd see the car pull up, a cloud of smoke would, you know, exit the car. And I think everyone in my neighborhood's like, what is this? They have going on. Or like I think I my whole neighborhood probably thought I was selling drugs, and she's like, she'd be texting you. Selling drugs is a quick thing. It's not like someone comes over to your house for like four hours, four or five hours. Yeah. Yeah. She'd be texting you like, it's midnight, like they gotta fucking go. Yeah, and my parents' room was right below them too. So they were like, oh, that guy's song sounded good. Or they're like tapping into unreleased. Yeah, they're like, like Savannah rap or shit. That's epic. So shout out to that. That was awesome. That's epic. But yeah, you were like filming, you know, like I said, you know, videos there. You were doing sound design for a class project for a movie or something, right? And everyone was like fucking around, but you were like, no, guys. I'm like, we gotta if I'm doing this, like yeah, because I'm serious.

So yeah, like you seem to have this like culture about you of like anything you put your name on, like that's your brand. And I'm not just gonna uh I'll just do it just because it's like I don't know. obviously we've all done that before, I'm sure we're sure. you're kind of just like uh sure I'll do something, but if I'm kind of iffy on the jump, just not gonna get it. Yeah, you're gonna get a terrible, terrible version of me or whatever. It's just like it's not gonna be it. So I have to always be like, all right, this is something I'm really gonna do because you know, why put it why put your time into something that you don't really love? so do you think you carry that like in into today as far as it's in everything, it's in like even the color I'd you know, color shirt. If I don't love that color shirt, I'm like, oh I'm not gonna wear it, or you know, like the the dumbest of little things, like I have to be like all in, yeah. All in or not at all. All in or all out. There's yeah, there's no in between. That's interesting. But yeah, so you kind of felt you know, you were doing music, you were like just hanging around music people, You were having rappers obviously come record, but still in Savannah. You kind of felt like you hit a ceiling.

Oh, yeah. I would say. I mean, you kind of alluded to it before that like Savannah, you're you know, you're kind of looking north to Atlanta or you're looking south to like Miami, right? You know, whatever's going on, but not you're not looking left and right here Exactly. in the city of Savannah, right? And I think too, like it's nothing against Savannah, and like I still have friends and stuff that are there still to this day, and there's nothing against the city, but to me, growing up there my entire life and then going to school and living with your parents at home, it's like all right, something's got to give. you gotta get out, like yeah. Gotta get the fuck out of here. yeah. And I don't know, it's just like too, You need I don't know, we always like go back to like to me in English class, like thinking of the hero's journey thing of like, oh, the the hero has to leave home and kind of like go take on like an unknown place or whatever. And like to me, Atlanta was that unknown place. I'm like, uh, oh I visited there for Braves games. And um Shout out the Braves. Shout out the Braves, yeah. I'm Trying to get to the World Series right now. What is going on?

I'm like, oh man, we better make it. We won't. Don't say that. I'm like, no. I've lived in Atlanta too long to count on Atlanta sports teams. Atlanta fans, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Patriots. And Falcons. we don't talk about 28 to 3 anymore. So you make this decision to move to Atlanta. Yeah, exactly. Like, and you you were open about like, I'm gonna go try and make this music thing happen. Yeah, because I think really it was like I'm kind of caught at a crossroad with like, all right, I just studied the sound design thing for four years. Am I just gonna throw that away? Was that for nothing? You know, that's a valid argument where it's like, oh what was the point in that? And um, you know, still to this day, it's like I use little things I learned within that, and I was staring at Pro Tools for four years, so it's like, all right, that definitely translates into it, but shout out Logic still. Shout out logic. I was like I knew you were a logic guy. I would never produce on Pro Tools. My man. My man. And I think anyone that produces knows like, nah. Don't do it. don't produce on Pro Tools. He gets it.

But yeah, I mean, anyways, I just I knew that all right, I music's the one thing that has always been there for me. Like I might as well go for it. And obviously, it's like a daunting thing of like, oh, you're just gonna go try and be, you know, the next diplo or the next murder beats or whoever, like, you know, I'm kind of caught in between at the time of like oh, EDM or rap music, or interesting, like the 1975, like pop music, or that like what what am I gonna do? I have no idea, but um, you know, I knew the whole sound design thing was only gonna happen if I moved to LA. Um, and I have friends that work for adult swim in Atlanta and stuff too, and they're working on the Rick and Morty thing and all that stuff, and still, it's like that would be amazing, and I'd love to do that stuff, but to me, I'm like, oh, but I don't want to just do music on the side. I'm like, no, I want to do music every single day. Cause I've already like had a preview of that and what it was like Yeah. I'm working with the artists in Savannah. And I'm like, I love it. It didn't matter that the artist I was working with, you know, they're not famous or they don't have a blue check or like whatever, all that dumb stuff. It's like this is what gave me life.

So it's like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick with that as opposed to you know trying to just settle to do oh well I guess I'll do film stuff because I studied it, you know. So I'm glad I kind of like turned against that way. Um and I actually like whenever I moved up here too, I worked at a sound design company for like a week or two, and instantly was just like no, no, I can't do it. Cause I saw I saw like how it was gonna go. So what were you doing there? Like what was the the job? Um, so I literally I was just helping uh like you know, kind of be a runner for them, but uh editing like some background sound effects and um not designing your own sounds, yeah, not yet, but still I was like watching the other people kind of do their stuff, and I'm like, oh okay, this is dope. And it was like a really small firm. Um they get a lot of stuff done, and pretty much everything from Turner turns to them, probably like six people that work there, yeah. Um, and it was a really inspiring environment, but still for me, I was like, oh, what am I doing? And in the meantime, I was still interning at two other recording studios, and I'm seeing that that life, and I'm like, oh, this is what I want to do.

You know, did did people doubt you when you you know wanted to move from Savannah? Like, dude, people people doubt you all the time. Like, if people aren't doubting you, you're probably doing something wrong, or you're not doing anything at all. So it's like, all right. Um, but I think the best part is like a lot of people were kind of like, oh yeah, duh, like that makes sense. That's your next move because they knew what are you still doing here? As soon as I graduated from SCAT, I was like, all right, let's go, like it's time. Um, and you know, I spent uh I spent the month from June to July 2019, just kind of figuring it out like the next move and applying to studios all that kind of stuff and you know once I had that solidified I was like all right let's just let's just go for it um and then introduce Reed luckily I like texted I like had this um kind of like pre-save message that I typed out and texted all my clients that I was working with at the time um and I sent it to Reed and he's like dude I've actually like been thinking of moving up to Atlanta too and and I was like let's run it like let's go let's do it so literally you know we just packed up our stuff and and moved up here so once again you know shout out Reed for all that because it's crazy that you know we took that having no idea like how things would come out and now I'm like looking at my life just being like man this is this is crazy. It's probably nice to have someone to kind of go through it with too oh yeah absolutely well no I was gonna ask you that that question exactly as far as like you know new city you got this dream of like making it in music what were some of the first You're like, what do you do, right? You're like, well, okay, I'm here. Yeah, I'm here now. I'm in an Atlanta apartment or like house or whatever, you do exactly. Yeah, but you know, so you mentioned you go straight to the Rolodex and like just hitting people up, and then you obviously got an internship at a couple places, right? You just gotta go Rolodex, I'm sorry, you're showing your age with that one. I know, I was like, what? Siri what is the definition of a Rolodex like what really though what is a Rolodex? He's 24, man, he doesn't know what a fucking Rolodex is. we don't have time for that mileage all right all right next time moving on moving on that's a behind the scene blooper but but so yeah, give us some some tips.

Cause you obviously, you know, came in here, you know, with a hustler attitude. You're gonna make this shit happen. But like what tactically, for people that are like what would you tell someone sitting in a savannah like town that's like, fuck, like, I want to move to Atlanta, I want to move to LA, I want to move to New York. Like, well, what do they do when they get there? And you can tell them right there. You can tell them right in that camera. Tell them here this is the um this is the Instagram reel predicting the drum roll. This is a post. This is great. So honestly, yeah, I think to me, the best thing was just keeping to yourself and kind of like you want to have that outside influence of you know, friends supporting you and that kind of stuff, but at the same time, it's just like I don't even need to like listen to any of that stuff because there was so much doubt creeping in from other people, and you can feel when other people are kind of like, what's he doing? Or uh it's not really working out instantly. It's like nothing in life works out right away. You know, you have to like have that patience and kind of stick it out, and maybe you have to intern at the studio for a year, maybe it works for you in six months, maybe it works three months for this guy. It's like I'm looking at all these situations of like kind of how things have panned out for people, and it really messes with your head because you're just like, Man, why isn't it happening to me?

Or like what did I do wrong, or am I not good enough? And you know, there's all this like self-doubt that creeps in. It's like I have enough self-doubt myself, but I don't need other people, you know, kind of introducing that kind of stuff. So choosing your company wisely, absolutely, or just keeping your blinders on. That's to me, that's really what it was. You were like, fuck what anyone even the good, yeah, even probably the good things. You're like, even I don't even know if I believe that, but yeah, I'm on this. Yeah, and you had to just like have it. Yeah, it reminds me of like the Jimmy Iovine shit as far as like why horses have blinders on, like when they're racing, because it's like you're racing, and there's too much going on. like you got the the crowd and the this and the that and the Instagram, and then one person posts this, and it's just like, dude, there's just too much going on. Don't, don't get me started about like the facade of Instagram. Oh such a facade. Yeah. Oh man. People will make you think they're balling. I just took a break a couple weeks ago and it was great. Oh, I'm I if I didn't have to run this goddamn one more time podcast page, I would be peace the fuck out.

Yeah. For real. I'm tapped. I just dude, I saw so many people repost the Jonah Hill thing of like, oh, what if Instagram closed the other day? And then I saw like 20 people's stories, and I'm like, man, we were all going through it. Or like, what? What in the world? Like why is everyone reposting this? Why is this like so relatable? That's crazy. Um, I think that's like the most important thing that I would say is like you said, just kind of keeping the blinders on and you know, defining your focus. What about like real like tax actual moves that you made? Oh, yeah. Uh the whole internship thing. I mean, what in the world? Calling every studio, yeah, but like really being there, you know, not just oh, I'm gonna intern this. So like that led to dude, oh my gosh, like clients and a thousand and then like valuable engineers, like homies that I can call up and be like, hey dude, how do I tell me about C4? We're talking about C6. Like, what does that plugin do? You know, or wow, like I had some mentors almost, yeah, absolutely. Um, shout out Nikki Pavone. Jack Harlow's name. Nikki, we'd love to have you on the podcast, Nikki. You're a real one.

I like one of the first days, him and AJ ruined my record. Um, we're talking out in the hallway main street, and AJ is another huge notable engineer producer he works with, um, Iggy Azalea. He's worked with Playboi Carti. Um, he's A Boogie's main engineer, that kind of stuff. But um, like just having those conversations with those kind of people, like what in the world? That that's crazy. That like inspiration it gives you, you're just like, oh whoa, okay. I could do this. I can do this. Yeah. And and too, like, without that, if I'm just sitting at home, like making beats in my little apartment, yeah, dude. it's, it's like it just feels like a dead end road, and you're like, what am I doing? Like, I'm not, there's no hope to this. But I think being again being up at the studios and meeting people and actually being a real person not being this robot intern or just trying to suck up to everybody like oh hey dude like let me send you beats for Cardi or da da da like I, you know, I could have played that card and be like, hey bro, like let me let me send beats to Wiz Khalifa or da, da, da, da. like you know all these big artists I'm meeting and it's just like no that's not that's not how it's gonna happen. No it always happens when the artists just ask you themselves or you know the the thing just kind of like works out the way it's supposed to so you got to provide value first before you just come in asking for value.

Exactly and too it's like they don't even know you like dude what and it's like naturally you're not just gonna like do a favor here you go, bro, like who's just random, like people are fucked up in their mind thinking about this is actually playing out in someone else's mind. But still like that's a huge valuable tip is like play your cards right just stay down. Because if you do get too impatient you start being thirsty desperate that shit reeks like people can smell that shit from a mile away, it's like this guy needs too much from me like uh uh like and it's so letting things come to you and like attracting the people you want to be around by just like you said being a real fucking human people are literally like not humans. Yeah that's crazy or like telling them like hey dude I'm kind of struggling like yeah I don't know like how did you get past this point and he's like oh yeah dude you know of course like I had that I had that day yesterday and I'm like what but you have 30 plaques or you have you have the hottest song on the freaking billboards like what why why did you feel this way and it's like oh okay wow yeah this happens to everybody on every level of the totem pole. It doesn't matter.

Yeah, I mean, so you mentioned money. That it's not like an overnight success thing. Oh, yeah. Like, clearly, you've been grinding it out, you've been patient. Obviously, you've you've built, you know, a sustainable career in music so far, I would say. But yeah, there was a point though when you were down bad, like bro, you were like struggling down bad. Like you were you were stressing over money. Oh, yeah. You were, you know, you you were sitting around a brunch or something with your homie, I think, and y'all were talking about like what jobs should I take? Like, you were thinking of like I was like What are some of those random jobs? Like, bro, what were some of those random ones? Shout out to guitar center? Shout out to guitar center. when I'm never working there. Well, so what were some of the other jobs for real that you had like pondered? Like, shit, I I can't do like it's not working like Publix, so I was like, Oh, I could do like groceries or I don't know, like being a bartender. It's like just I don't know, I don't know a thing about alcohol, but I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna figure this out. Like I was just like contemplating bartending school. I don't know how to make a Manhattan.

Bro, I don't know. Like, I don't even know. But it's crazy. Once you're at your lowest point, you I mean it's survival mode. It's like what else am I gonna do? And I literally watched my bank account go like you know, like completely drain all the way down. Um, you know, because the internship, keep in mind, it's unpaid, like, what? Yep. you're so oh man, that really messes with your head too. You're just kind of like you just worked 12 hours. Oh, dude, like at least like 12 hours was the minimum. How many dollars came into my account? Negative 20 for lunch and dinner, and that's where all those like comments come in, where it's like, bro, what are you doing? Or like, yeah, my parents are like, Oh, I need to think about, I need to think about Target, or like PetSmart's hiring. Like, I'm what I'm not doing that. Like, picture my parents still don't get it. Bro, I still don't get it. I swear to God. They don't believe that you're still. My mom asked me, I love you, mother, wherever you are. Shout out, Robin.

Shout out, Robin. She asked me, When when are you getting a real job? Yeah. Like, like I like two or three months ago, bro. Like, for those that don't know my get to know him. Like, he's built a successful recording, mixing, producing business for himself. Yeah. And it is still one of those things where like your own loved ones like still don't necessarily How's your 401k doing. You know, and then it's like, okay, I don't have life insurance and I don't have health insurance and all these other things, but it's like, you know, is that what we live life for? Is to have these comfortable things, or to just make us feel like, oh, I'm secure and like this. And I'm like, no, this is this is not the point. Like, you gotta, I don't know, I always feel like I need to do more. Have you ever told her, like, mom, you let me have all these sessions back in the day? You're so supportive. Exactly. What did you think was gonna happen? I'm in it now. You're such an enabler, mom. Yeah, So, So you've built, like I said, this, you know, sustainable, dedicated clientele base. I would say absolutely people have have described it like they want to work with you, they come back again and again and again to work with you.

Why do you think it is? What, what what about working with you? Do you think makes them feel you know comfortable and that they want to come back? I mean, I think the most important thing is like reliability, just because I mean, it's meth definitely in the rap industry, especially. But you know, I've heard so many horror stories of like, oh, dude, that the engineer didn't send me the session, or like, oh, he was late, or the engineer fell asleep during during the middle of my take, and I'm like, shit, like really, like, but I mean, that's that's just like the culture we live in, is everyone's like, Yeah, bro, I know how to record. I'm an engineer. I'm like, Yeah, no, you're not. No, you're not. Like, what? Like, bro, I studied this, yes, and like, that doesn't necessarily make me an engineer, but it's like, bro, I've I've sat there and recorded someone for at least 10,000 hours for Pete's sake. Like, yeah, shout out Pete for that. And I'm like, my God, Whoever, whoever's take is but dude, it's like this is ridiculous. Why, why can't we? Why can't we understand that reliability first off, and then like doing business the right way?

You know, because so many people are like so unprofessional with things, being professional, I think is yeah, yeah. I think that's another huge thing. And then too, like, oh, what are you bringing to the table? Instead of just some artists, obviously, all you gotta do is press record, and it's a done, done deal. They're happy, they love it. It's it's great, but I love like being able to provide input of like, oh, dude, you should add a harmony to that. They're like, Yep, dang, bro. Like, I don't sing, bro. I'm like, yeah, you do. Just like just singing on top. It's gonna sound crazy. Let me press this button, now sing. Like, watch. There you go. Yeah, or like the littlest things are oh, completely taking the turn this way and making the song go that way, whatever. Like, there's so many little things that I think kind of just happen naturally in a session, and they're like, Oh, okay, I like this because the other guy didn't do that, or or whatever. And I think the best part is like, you know, just getting that one chance to record someone. All I need is like 30 minutes or an hour, then they're like, Oh, okay, it makes sense, you know, or they're at least like convinced of okay, this is this is worth my time, worth my money. Um, because ultimately, too, it's like people are investing their money and time into you.

It's like even screw the money, it's like I'm investing my time with you. So for me, if I'm an artist, I don't want to sit there and like spend an hour session with someone and be like, damn bro, this has been a waste, or like, oh, yeah, like I haven't gotten anything done. Like, what is the point of this? Music is funny in that way because an artist literally has to rely on somebody to like get their art off. It's like, imagine if a painter had to like hire a guy to like hold his hands or something. They don't need anyone to like they rely on you. This is their art. Yeah, and then to your hands like we live. Yeah, like to refill the paint in the little uh like thing that you did the paint in, or the paintbrush in, like what if that dude fell asleep? What if that dude fell asleep? He'd be just waiting on your paintbrush. dude, that's that's a great illustration. I'm like, I could see the whole thing in my head. I love that. I think like we live in the time too where so many people are like, oh, I'm I can just record myself. I'm like, yeah, you can, but it's so isn't it so nice to like have someone to just do it for you? Like it's like sure you can drive you know the car for yourself, but isn't it nice to like have an Uber driver like pick you up or you're getting picked up in the the black truck, the SUV, like and they're better.

It's amazing, yeah. And you can you can just sit back and relax and be like, oh man, this is ah, this is cozy. This is nice, I don't have to press it. And focus on what you want to focus on. Exactly. Like you go ham and and say like you sing and hey, let me do this. Like, if you have to worry about like the nuts and bolts of like recording yourself and making the music and actually doing good takes, it's just taxing. It's like, oh man. And two, it's like I never thought about it that way. Yeah, yeah. And I I know so many people that record themselves too, and it's a great tool to have as well. But once you realize the importance of an of an amazing engineer and producer, what like duh? You're gonna be like, oh yeah, yeah, I need him. I definitely recommend every artist have a way to record themselves and record the shit out of themselves all the time. But record if you record four or five songs and one or two of them is like, yo, this one's really good, then you can bring that to an engineer, exactly. Take it to the next level. Exactly. Yeah, and I think too, like, that's the most important part of like the home setup is capture that lightning when it strikes. Yes.

Because if not, yes, you're not gonna be in that zone, like, oh yo, I just capture the lightning when it strikes. Cause it might be a sunny day when you go to the studio, So on one more time podcast, we feel like an artist has dropped a gem. We ask that they say it one more time, just kind of summarize that. And you've actually had a lot, but this is the first one. One more time. Capture the lightning when it strikes. No, but it's it's so true because I mean shit. We even talked with Amelia about this, who you work with. That was one of the watched the whole thing. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Voice notes. She's amazing. Fire. Just Being able to that's what I was gonna touch on next. Yeah, just being able to make sure you don't lose that inspiration. Yes. Because that shit comes from like all different directions. Yeah. She said, you know, she's trying to sleep, and then for the lyrics for you know, solo cup. That's a good melody, though. Yeah, yeah. For solo cup, which is the song that's going crazy right now for her. Those lyrics just got like zapped into her brain by the fucking lyric gods. And if she wouldn't have been able to, you know, if you're not ready to receive it, yeah. You know, like I said, you have a very, I would say dedicated clientele.

Absolutely. They they love to work with you. The real ones. You, you know, you know, definitely have have built this, you know, strong connection with them. Most recently, I would say you've been tapped in with light skin Keisha. Yeah. Shout out, Keisha. Shout out Keisha. I I think you recorded the whole last project. Yeah, I think it was every song except one. Okay. Shout out Trey Tracks for the other recording. Yeah. Uh he kind of like handed the baton to me to start recording it and stuff. Sure. Nice. It's cool how it all dude. Yeah. How did that relationship happen. It's a beautiful story. So I'm like, it's nice to like have it officially cleared up because I think on the record. yeah. So many people are like, oh, well, I think maybe it was this or maybe it was that. But um oh, there's rumors about it. We're clearing them up right now. I mean, I I heard one version of it. Yeah, I'm like, uh, there's probably not a lot of things. Let's get it from the horse's mouth. Yeah, facts. Okay. Um just call him a horse. For Pete's sake. Yeah.

Shout out Pete again. Pete has made his way into this podcast way too many times. Pete, we'd love to have you on the podcast. Yes, we would. Fucking A. Oh my God. So Tell us the story. I know I was like, oh my God, cause now, like, people don't even care. They're like, bro, like they're still tuned in. They're still with us. Yeah, they do. You're here, right? They just clicked away. You're here. Yeah. Um, so yeah, the YouTube analytics dropping Right at the Pete's sake. No, I'll just edit that boring shit. Like, bro, they said Pete's sake again. Oh my gosh. These losers. This kid. Take him back to Savannah. Yeah. Um, so it all happened. I have to introduce the Coco Vango story to then introduce her. Yep. Coco Vango. Shout out Coco. He's he's an amazing artist and such a real, just a real guy that we can we can talk about anything really. Nice. Um, I'm sitting recording one of my friends. Um, and he's like, oh yeah, bro, I'm gonna put some people on you. Anyways, he introduced me to somebody.

Um, and I had my first session with him this like a week or so later, and I was like, Oh, okay, cool. This referral confirmed, like it actually worked. Um, so I'm sitting in there recording with him, and you know, we're like 30 minutes in or an hour in or something, and you know, everything's going well. I'm like, all right, you know, another session, kind of kind of going through the motion with things. Um, and randomly he gets like a phone call in the middle of one of the takes. Um, and I don't know, this this kind of stuff like happens all the time, but I'm like sitting there, like kind of waiting on him, and you know, he's like talking, and I have no idea who he's talking to, or whatever, and he's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, can I pull up? And he's like, Oh, yeah. Um, he asked me real quick, he's like, Oh, can my bro pull up? I'm like, yeah, sure, whatever. But it's like it's the same thing. It's like, all right, introducing someone into your house. Just met the guy. I'm like, uh, whatever. Like, I'm always just like down for whatever. So I'm like, oh yeah, it's like it's not gonna be any problems, whatever. So um, anyways, it wasn't just one person, it was like four or five people. Of course, of course. It never did Did this happen at your parents' house though. No, this was up here in. No, but I'm saying not this specific. Oh yeah, yeah, sometimes. And and I'm, I'm like, bro, were you

a little more cautious then? Uh definitely because like, okay, I barely know you, homie. Like, you can't Yeah, and and too, it's like, bro, you booked an hour session and you're in you're it's like how quick are they are they in the buildings? do they live in this complex? Like, bro, by the time they get here, your session's gonna be over. Like, I know I don't know, but it's always nice, you know, to meet more people, and and again, the opening, the connection where it's like, all right, sure, yeah, whatever. Cause if you just be weird about it, I'm like, oh no, they they can't come. I'm like, you never know who you're going to meet. Yeah, and like that would just be weird too. I'm like, no, I would I wouldn't want like it's like dude, he's paying to be here. Like, let him just have his friend over, it doesn't matter. So, anyways, the friend comes in, and um, I like kind of recognized him, but I was like, I don't really know exactly. And I was Coca Vango that day. Um, and still, this is like, bro, I had maybe like six clients at the time. It's Like, so fresh to Atlanta. This is like mid-quarantine, um, down bad, struggling, thinking about target jobs, yeah.

Like all the studios are closed. I was thinking about Target, Publix, and then I meet Coco Vango, and it was like, oh, this is like the silver lining magically just like popped in and um Yeah, like rejuvenated you, yeah. Because you know, they're kind of like sitting back, and him and his manager like sitting back there, and uh like two other friends, um, and you know, they're kind of like questioning me, like, oh, so like who've you recorded? Right. What have you mixed? Like, Like, let's hear something. What's your credentials, yeah. Yeah, and I was just like, uh, you know, and it wasn't like in a bad way, they're not like putting me on the spot. Um, because I've been put on the spot kind of in like in a more aggressive way, and I'm just kind of like, oh, yikes. This is this is like a little more pressure. But you know, they're just like genuinely curious, and I played them some stuff, and they're like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you hard, you hard. I'm like, thanks, whatever. You know, because I don't know, people say that and the same thing. Next, you know, it just you you hear it all the time, or it's the phrase that's hard could literally mean anything from I fucking hate this to I fucking love this, or anything in between. Like that's hard is the most general state, it doesn't mean anything. Because one second they they think it's amazing, and then the next they don't.

But um, anyways, like that whole thing and it ended up that one day introduced to him. Uh he started coming around a couple other times um in two or three other my other friends' sessions, and like you know, we slowly developed a relationship, just like talking, nothing crazy. And then finally he like records his first song over there with me, and he hears it and he's like, Oh yeah, like I'm gonna be coming here like way more. And I'm again same thing. He could or he couldn't. Like, I don't really know exactly what's gonna happen, but geez, bro. Like, fast forward, this man was over every like calling me, like, hey bro, I need to record. Bro, I need to record, like I swear, I gotta get into it. And I'm just like, freak, like I already have these other guys coming, like, uh, you know, I'm like making it work, and this is before I had like my scheduling app, which like changed my life. Relatable. Oh, you had a scheduling app. Yeah, I need to get on that. Ding, another ding. Like, hello. Acuity used a scheduling app. acuity scheduling changed my life. Acuity?

Yeah. Interesting. So Squarespace makes it. Um, but that just I literally can go to bed, wake up. Oh, someone like three sessions got booked the rest of the week. Wow. This is dope. I didn't do anything. I didn't have to have a conversation. Did they pay on there too? Yeah, they have to deposit everything. Yeah. Love that. Bro. Jesus. And I have like a little big time. That'll it'll it'll ask like their Instagram and I get their number and their email. So I'm like, you know, gathering all that information. Yeah. Um and dude, it's man, it's so much better. But anyways, like at the time, whenever Coca hit me up, I'm just like, oh, it almost stressed me out to a certain point where I'm like, You feel like you have to I'm like, dang, this man's like hit me up again. Like, bro, we just recorded last night for seven hours. He was Like, you need me again. But he's like, bro, I got I got one. I got one. I mean this project, this project, this project. And this man's like anyone that knows him, he's always working on something, like in in the best way ever because he's just such like a workhorse workhorse with everything. But um, anyways, like we developed a super solid relationship and same thing, he brought up the keisha thing eventually. And um So they're friends, yeah.

Yeah, more than friends. Oh, they might be getting married soon. That'd be like shout out to them. Yeah, I hope they get married. Did you just leak? I hope they get married. No, you just leak. light skin Keisha? I don't know. I don't know. It's getting married. One more time exclusive. Coca, we'd love to have you on the podcast. First of all, second of all, propose, motherfucker. Do it. She's the one. Eventually, yeah, I don't know. She's the one, definitely. They're they're amazing. Keisha, you're the one. Yeah. Facts. Remember that. Yeah. Um you heard it from mileage here first. I said it. So, like, whatever. Damn, it's still so cool that again, one one door led to him, then him led to that. And, you know, like once once I met with her, um, I originally just got brought on to like mix their mix her album, because he's like, bro, I love the way you mix my stuff. And I'm thinking in my head, like, really? Like, okay, thanks. Like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm confident in myself too, but once you have like someone that is actually doing something with music, that's yeah, you know, like that's that's reached a certain degree of it. Yeah, like a celebrity stuff, yeah, all that stuff.

You're like, oh, okay. Cause again, it's gotta feel good. Yeah, it definitely does. And again, having like your friends tell you it feels amazing, but once it's the credible source or you know, a big engineer, big producer is like, oh bro, this like your quality is crazy. It's valid. Oh, that's that's amazing. Yeah. So Keisha, you were gonna mix the project, and then I mix it. You do. Okay. Um, I had to go to Doppler um to mix it. And it was kind of funny because I felt like someone was like on my shoulder the whole time, being like, Can you have a chance? Was someone there? It's like, yeah, I had um, I think it was like two or three ARs there. That was Shit, that was stressed me out, bro. Yeah, I hate having a bunch of people around when I mix. But like it it wasn't the entire time, but I think again, it's like, all right, we don't even know this kid. Like, who is this kid just coming in and all I had was vouching? Like bright-eyed and bushy tailed. Were you like, I'm here to mix the Keisha for a second. Like, literally, and they're probably like, what? Like, oh, you're the guy? What? Like, who the heck? and literally all I had Robin thick? Bro, all I had going for me, I had no credits. They're just like, oh Coca vouched for me.

Like, ooh. At some point, someone has to trust Oh, exactly. I mean, everyone had their first Everyone started somewhere. Yeah, exactly. No one had a resume before, before the first one. I mean exactly. But it's funny to think, you know, it's like interesting to think about. But no, the bright eyed bushy tail for sure. It was like this is I feel like he's way too happy to be mixing these Keisha. And too, like, yeah, I was like what I mean. I I wasn't like overly ooh, but it was just like I just like went with it. Inside you were. Yeah, I was like, I'm doing it. And it's like a boost here. Yeah, it's like maybe maybe I'm overdoing it, like, I don't even know. And luckily everyone was like, oh, wow, this this is actually really good. Like, oh, thank goodness. Because if it wasn't, all right, maybe I'm not a mixing engineer. Here's a question I'm going to stick to beats. When you were mixing it, are you were you doing any type of moves that might be considered production? Because I find myself doing that Oh, at the time. Yeah. Production. Definitely. And like that's that's what was so fun, though, is the whole process. I'm sitting there uh with Trey Trax, who's like another one of her like main producer engineer, and um, I mean, he's worked with like all other kind of artists, like mainly Saucy Santana and Mulatto, and we're sitting there and he's like, Oh, yeah, you gotta drop it at this part. And you know, we're kind of like sitting on the mixes we did the day before, and then come back and he's like, Oh bro, we need to we need to bring in this cool reverse reverb thing.

And you know, we we're both like kind of throwing our own sauce tricks into it, and yeah, you know, it's like no credit, like, oh, I thought of this reverse reverb. It's like right, bro. Who cares? Like, who cares who's doing what? But for me, that was the first time I got to like mix with somebody too. So it was a lot of fun. Is like, you know, I'm doing like the technical nerdy stuff, and then you know, he's coming in and being like, Oh, drop, like cut the beat here, do this, do that, or oh, we need to filter this thing, or you know, like all those little kind of things, and yeah, you know, he's like approving or disapproving my decisions too, because he's the one that's worked with her for like two, three years, and he's like, bro, she's not gonna like that, or oh, oh, that's fire. Like, I'm glad you thought of that, you know, or whatever. So I don't know, it's just like it's a lot of fun to like involve collaborative mixing. Um, that's something like Alex Tumay had talked about recently, um, probably within the past year or two, and he's just like always talked about like, oh yeah, it's amazing to have three or four pairs of ears of the best engineers in the world working on the same song. Like, yeah, sure, why not? Why are we like, oh, I have to be the one that makes this song? It's like, bro, who cares who mixed it?

Like, does the song sound amazing? Or yeah, like what you're providing and what I'm providing, that's a superpower now. Like, we just took it to 12. So we're taking it to 10. Yeah, if the people I feel like if the people were there listening with like production kind of ears and we're actually listening for stuff to make the song better, then it would make me a lot more comfortable than just literally have people like smoking blunts and playing pool behind me, you know. Yeah, exactly. So that like that was the best part is again the pressure. It was more so like my own pressure of it, but then the same thing of like, oh, I've never like had someone really sit there and watch me mix. Yeah. Cause I again they're probably just like, what is he doing? Or like is he actually? Why'd you click that? Why'd you click that? Like, geez, this one song's taking him forever. I'm like, well, it's not my fault. It's taking forever. Like, yeah, the producer should have sent me the stems, but whatever. Oh, that's the worst. God. Two track mix? I'm I would just make bro the whole thing. No.

Like, literally, almost everything I mix is two-track mix. No, even for like huge artists. It's so common, bro. It's wild. It's Annoyingly common. Yo, but you just make it work. We just like we just leaked some like secret dirty. Yeah. All y'all big ass artists got your two-track mixes done. Fucking fraud. And are they MP3? So you're at least getting the wave. Oh no, Never. Never. That's a wave. I'm like, what is a wave? That's like from producers? No. So her most recent project though. So you mix this first one. Yeah. Clearly, she starts trusting you to the point where like. And I got to record her. Okay, so then you start recording her. Cause that to me is like, bro, there's something about recording someone where it's like, oh, wait, you're actually like involved in the process. It's more intimate. You you just came up with the hook. Like, what I'm literally like, we're we're just like spitting words out, whatever, and then they're like, oh yeah, that's hard. And oh, we should make this like a chant song. And then that's where the whole, you know, FDH song kind of came about, and like so many. Yeah, let's play a snippet from that one.

Oh, oh yeah. That's you, right? Yeah, yeah, that's your production? Yeah, yeah. And recorded it, everything recorded it, produced it, mixed it too. But it was fun, you know, just like sitting there to help be a part of the songwriting process too. And yeah, let's play a snippet from that. It's a lot of fun. FDH by uh light skin Keisha. Fuck these hoes. Fuck these niggas. too. What you trying to do? What you trying to do? Who on smoke? Bitch, I'm with it too. I got dogs and gorillas like we in a zoo. You got goons, I got shooters. They pull triggers too. It's the ops in the way I bet I make a move. Cause fuck these hoes. Fuck these niggas too. I'm outside on the block yelling, beep, beep, beep. So that was a snippet from FDH. Yes, sir. By light skin Keisha, Fuck these hoes. Produced by Mileage, mixed by Mileage, recorded by Mileage, blah, blah, blah, yeah, everything by Mileage. Facts. and co-written by Jero Street. Okay, Shout out. He's amazing. yeah,

so obviously, you know, I kind of just mentioned the holy trinity, right? We got recording, we got mixing and producing. So, what would you say? You know, you kind of laughed at your mixing, but like what would you say your strongest suit is of the three? I should not have laughed at my mixing, but like at the time I was laughing at mixing. at the time because I've never I don't know. I'm just I'm mixing the songs, and you know, I'm kind of like it was more the imposter syndrome. Yeah, Of it all. It was a lot more of that. Not so much like your mixes are trash. It's the same thing with your beats, where it's like, I don't know, like is this fire? So, what do you think they're gonna feel most confident in though? Of the three. Oh, bro, everything now, of course. I'm speaking on old, old me. Sure, but I'm speaking on now you what would you feel your strongest suit is producing, for sure. and again, producing? I don't mean beat making, I mean producing. Sure. Actual producing. Understanding we get it. Oh, wow. we get it. We talk about this all the time. But like there's a difference, you know. There's certain people.

What would you say the biggest? difference is if you had to sum up the difference between beat maker and producer, what would you say? Because we had a whole episode on it. Check it out. I think it's episode eight or nine. Yeah. I'm gonna go watch that one. I mean, dude, we're on 24 now? He mentioned I'm old. I can't remember what episode. eight or nine is. I'm 24. We're on 24. That's perfect. man. Kobe, go. That's why we invited you. but yeah, so if you had to sum up the difference, you know, what would you say? Uh to me, definitely producing is understanding the song as a whole and what lyrics need to go here and the way the song needs to be arranged and all that kind of stuff. Whereas, you know, beat making is sitting there making your beat and kind of calling it a day, and you're not seeing the the song being made at the you know the next step of the process. Because the whole point of making a beat is all right, this beat is being made to then get an artist on it, you know, unless it's gonna be on an instrumental album or it's just gonna sit on the background of like an ad or or whatever, which you know that all that stuff's amazing. Shout out placements, all that kind of stuff.

Shout out sync. That's a whole nother bag. But um, you know, producing is like that it's the stepping stone to get to okay, now we need to make the song, you know. And to me, it's always that's more important is the song, not the beat. Beatmaking is songwriting, you're writing the music for a song the same way you write lyrics for a song. Producing a song is taking what's been written and putting it all together and getting into a final product every step after the parts have been written, is the actual producing. And a lot of beat makers are not present for that part, and they claim to be producers, and now you email the beat to the artist and that was like it's amazing. You can still, you know, get a whole song made with someone and just through an email. That's like that's so great that we don't have to rely on that. Whereas like back in the day, the only way to get a song with someone was like you had to be there in person. Yeah. Like, oh, I had a song with someone. so. It's like, dude, they're across the country. There's no way you were in LA with them. Yeah.

But oh, my email was, you know, like that's so that's so how do you balance the pursuit of all three though, right? And where do you see yourself? I I'm assuming producing based on what you said, but is that where you're wanting to head? Definitely, yeah. And I think I think it all just kind of depends, like you said, how your daily routine setup. So for me, I don't have like a set time of oh, I'm gonna make beats at you know, 10 a.m. and and then I'm gonna mix at 11 and whatever. It's like you know, I kind of have to like fluctuate and always be fluid with everything. Um, because you know, rappers are late to sessions. You could have an extra 30 minutes where oh, am I just gonna sit here and like not do anything, or oh, okay, this is the perfect time to just cook up. Like I might as well, you know, and and you know that artist coming in, they're they don't have any beats ready. So I'm gonna just cook up for them, like might as well. And again, if they use it, they don't use it. But I think it's like literally using every like trying to allot your time as best you can to step towards that goal and and knowing okay, it's probably gonna take take some time and some luck and all these things like gotta add up because you can't just become the next Pharrell overnight or the next you know, murder means any of them, yeah. And same with the mixing engineer stuff, but at least all of it is to me, you know, if it as long as I'm like pushing myself towards it a little bit closer every day, then I'm cool with that.

You know, do you want to like do you see yourself doing less recording, less mixing in in a perfect world? Definitely. So I Dude, you guys are the same person. It's kind of annoying. It's bad to be like, oh, I'm not trying to record. It's like, no, but I I recently like made a shift in my rates and everything, and and I think like I I literally I did that on purpose just to like, bro. I'm not trying to record for 12 hours every single day. Dude, he gets it. Times six. I'll record and mix for artists that I'm producing. I'm hyped to do that. I don't need to stop mixing and recording all the time, but I'm transitioning away from relying on recording sessions and mixing and mastering as my only source of income. Of course, because it's just I don't I'm not doing this for income. Like I hate that I have to do it for income. Yes. You know, because I I don't I don't work at Target. I don't work at Pet Smart. I don't I don't have rich parents that are just dumping me money every day. Like I hate when people think that kind of stuff, just like you're just magically getting funds or like, oh, he got this place. I'm like, bro, no, this is all my money.

Like I worked for everything I have. And I think that's the best, like, that's the best feeling ever is when you're like, oh, I deserve to have what I have because I worked for it, you know. Yeah, it didn't just happen by luck, or I didn't just, oh, he got lucky with that placement, or oh, he just did it. I'm like, nah, dude, that like that doesn't exist in my mind, like with everything that I've done. Um that's why we got the blinders. Exactly. Yeah, and blinders are gonna stay on forever because if not, it's so easy to get distracted and like lose that steam and be kind of just like, oh, I'm good. I got songs with so-and-so whatever. It's like that's not good enough. Like, it doesn't really matter. And too, like I said, I'm not doing it for oh, I need to get a song with Drake and then I'm gonna quit. Like, no, that I'm still gonna be like, well, what more can I do? Or like I still need that song with Justin Bieber. I still need the song with so-and-so. like there's so many like more widespread things that I want to do. Um, and that's why I think producing is like the best way because you can encompass it all into like yes different ways. Um, yes, you know, as opposed to like when I'm sitting there just recording, I'm like, man, I can like I can do so much more than this.

Cause you're kind of like limited itch. You're limited, yeah. All you're crawling out of your skin, all you do is press recording. It's like, all right, bet I can do that, but it's like that fucking snare though. Like, I gotta I know, or I'm like it's the worst snare, yeah. Like, oh, it's not even a good beat. Like, it just makes you cringe, bro. And with the way producing too, I hate beating it to death like that, where bro, you gotta make beats every day. It's like, who who cares how many beats I made yesterday? Did it like what did I do with that beat? Did I get so and so on it, or did it just sit on my computer and rot for a year? Yeah, because it's 10 beats a day, but if you don't do anything with them, it's like congratulations, you got a full hard drive, and that's it. Yeah, and it doesn't really matter because again, like I said earlier, it's a stepping stone. This beat is just kind of like it's just the beat at the end of the day. So you mentioned having your blinders on. Better put your fucking blinders on for this last segment of the one more time podcast. I know this is the this is the last. You've made it, my friend. Thank goodness.

You're familiar with the rapid fire rampage. Oh, yeah. You can't relax just yet. I'm not relaxed, we're good. Everyone thinks that, oh man, it's almost over, then boom, boom. The rapid fire rampage hits you in the fucking face. Henry, where we at, dog. We're at the rapid fire rampage with Mr. Mileage episode 24. So you already know how this works, but I'll explain it for anyone that might be tapping in for the first time. I'm ready. Three part rampage, gonna hit you with some short answer questions. Get some water. This is your chance. Uh-oh. We're gonna do some this or that. And we're gonna do a word association, hit you with a word, and you're gonna hit me with one word back. I don't have to say anything more than that. I think we can jump right into it. Yeah, starting off with my classic question, which, and we haven't actually tapped into like the type of music you actually like, so I'm interested in it. Oh, yeah. What? Two of your, two of your top five artists or bands? So much good conversation going on. Two of my two of my top five. Give us two of your top five artists or bands of all time. Future in the 1975. Give us two of your favorite tempos to produce in.

160. Sure. Classic. And 150. Yeah. Trap. Yeah, that's that's the current, like, that's where we're at right now. That's that's what it is right now. So my template's at too. How many post-it notes could fit in a standard size refrigerator? 50,000. It's January 2012. You've been hired as the CEO of Blockbuster. How do you save the company? Bring back DHS's. Bring them back. You're hosting a dinner party, and you can invite any three people, alive or dead. Who are they? Michael Jordan. Oh, nice one. That would be awesome. Uh Kurt Cobain. Okay. Get a little insight from him. And like George Washington or like someone, like super old. That racist historical figure. Like just to like have to randomly, like it would be us, and we're going to be able to do that.

He might be a little confused as to why Michael Jordan's sitting at the table with you. Just saying. That's rough. Yeah. Just saying. That's rough. Oh man. Shout out, George. Shout out George. Just like the randomness. You'd be like, why is he here? In ten seconds or less, describe music to a deaf person. The only thing you can feel outside of human touch. If you were one part of this bicycle, which part would you be? Um I'd be the handlebars. Cause you yeah, you take it and take the song in the direction. I see what you're doing. The control. It's very metaphorical. On a scale of one to ten, how weird do you think you are? I'm a good six. Healthy, healthy amount of weird. How do you like your eggs? Seven. Oh, seven on some days. Uh definitely scrambled. Scrambled. Part one of the rampage. I have a little uh special something for part two here. Trap Jack Black.

That's right. So for the this or that part two, just because people have always described us as being very similar. I've underlined the uh my choices. And uh depending on what you pick, I might either give you You're like, we're the same. Yeah. If if it's the same that I would have picked, I'll give you this. And if it's not, I'm gonna give you Bruh. that one. Just to see how we kind of line up. Bruh. Rapid Fire Rampage Part two with mileage episode 24. Here we go. Melodies or drums? Drums. Lyrics or flow? Flow. Two for two. Doesn't matter what you're saying all the time. It doesn't. It's how you say it, motherfuckers. Facts. Beach house or mountain cabin. Beach house. Beach house. Beach house. Sorry, I don't mean to keep whispering though. No, people like to do that in this segment specifically. This is how we do it.

It gets real intense. Okay, bet. Yeah. Okay, bet. Coca-Cola or Sprite? Sprite. Bruh. Sprite. This one's a layup. This one's a layup. I just wanted to Pro Tools or Logic. Quench your thirst. Logic. Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. Nickelodeon. Snares or claps? Claps. Henry hates a snare. Theme park or water park. Theme park. Bruh. Water park. Christmas or Halloween. Christmas. Bruh. Mexican food or Chinese food? Chinese. Bruh. Bruh. Jeez. What? Producing during a day or at night. Day.

Bruh. I'm an animal in the day. Tattoos or piercings. Tattoos. Audio or midi. MIDI. Bruh. MIDI's fire. I use a lot of MIDI too. That was actually a hard one. Robots or dinosaurs? Dinosaurs. Bruh. The look of disappointment on your face. I thought we had that one. I just thought we we were like so similar, and then all of a sudden, you've been on a losing streak the last like bruh, bruh, bruh. You can save it with the last one here. Spins 808 or Zay 808? Zay. Bruh. Oh, fail. Every time. Bruh, bruh, bruh, bruh. Moving on to the last part of the rampage. This last part will make or break your rapid fire rampage. That's all we're gonna say. So here we go.

Part three, Rapid Fire Rampage with Mileage, episode 24. Rampage. Mars. Space. Puppy. French Bulldog. Fear. Heights. Reverb. Too much. Ice cream. Chocolate. Cryptocurrency. Who cares? Oh. You're not the same. You guys are not the same. I mean, if you want to build wealth. That's what just confirmed. Not everybody wants to build wealth. So I just heard someone He can miss out on these gains. He can miss out on these gains. These gains aren't for everybody. Choir. Angelic.

Rage. Playboi Carti. Compressor. LA2A. Classic. Rainbow. One of a kind. Hospital. Whack. Politics. Too much. Light skin. Keisha Keisha What a rampage. He brought it back. Because of that, He recovered. He recovered. Very solid there. Solid rampage. Solid rampage. I'd give it a solid. Start it off shaky. I'd give it, my favorite was the 7.58, 7 I think it's a good one. Seven. We'll leave it to the the comments to decide. Yeah. We'll see. Let us know. I'm gonna get flamed. Jump a 1 through 10 in the comments on how mileage did on this rampage. Yo, he was dry. But no, awesome episode, man. Um, like I said, it was a long time coming, I think, to to get you on.

We sure as hell haven't had enough producers and engineers on the uh on the uh podcast. It's a crime. It's a crime, it is, it's, it's, it's definitely you know something that we've been you know meaning to do. So we appreciate you coming on. Awesome story. Really love how you know you've made a a name for yourself here in Atlanta. I think you really are just starting to pick up steam. Um catching placements, you know, networking with the right artists, you know, making dope music. Everything I've heard you, you know, put out recently has been you know, A1. So really, really looking forward to seeing you uh continue to grow. Thanks man. Appreciate you coming on. Yep, yep, definitely. Thank you guys again for having me. Definitely, man. And then and until next week, Henry, what are we doing? We're gonna end the episode. We're getting the fuck out of here. Y'all be good. Until next time. Peace out. Bye. Bye. Pop that shit. Like one more time. Pop that one more time. Pop that shit. Like one more time. Pop that one more time. Oh, hop up in that. Four hands stirrin' up. All the homies. This shit trippin' up. Middle finger to the law. Yeah.