James Blake Relationship and the Curse of Perfectionism ft. SwaVay

I work on projects for so long, bro. Like at least two, three years at a time. Like the majority of it comes from like me being a perfectionist and me feeling like, bro, if it's not the best shit, I won't do it. The one more time music podcast. Genuine conversations with genuine people about music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. We're from being locks to pants off. They find it one more time. One more time. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of the One More Time Podcast. It's Thursday. One more time. You know what time it is. I'm your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host. Henry with a three, because Henry with a knee was already taken. Henry, who do we have on the podcast today? Welcoming in on the 19th episode of the One More Time Podcast, NBA champion Drew Holiday. Drew, Drew. What a season y'all had, man. Cheers. Had an immaculate run there in the playoffs.

I'm not a fan of Drew Holiday, bro. Ah, well. Well, now the roast is that much better. I'm gonna come clean, man. Listen, I'm not impressed. What is it about him? I'm not impressed by a lot of things, bro. Like, for me to be impressed, it's gonna take a lot. You know what I mean? And Drew's not cutting it for me. Okay. And that's just that's just, that's just you know, it is what it is, bro. It's a lot of pressure for this podcast episode to impress you. I mean, if that starts a beef between me and bro, then it is what it is. I think that's good for both your careers. Yeah, exactly. So, in all seriousness, we have legendary recording artist from Atlanta, Georgia, Mr. Suave. We appreciate you coming on, my man. Thank you for having me. Henry, I'm gonna try and do this episode without making you take that robe off and and the shades. For those of you that are listening only, I don't even know what you're talking about. And are not watching the podcast on YouTube, he's drenched in sweat now because he's wearing a robe that's yellow with shades inside, which we just learned Suave is not a fan of, so I'm not sure why he's still doing it, but you look handsome though. Thank you.

Like this is like a thing. Like, this should be like you know, this would be a part of your brand. Like, you know what I mean? I don't even know what y'all are talking about. I just got dressed. It's a normal day. So this is terrible. We're gonna dive right in. So people have said about you that you are in the purest sense of the word, an artist. What do you think they mean by that? I I definitely go through like the good parts and the bad parts of like being an artist. Like, you're an artist, you know what I mean? Like, and you know that like when people say, like, oh no, he's a true artist, like they know, man. Like, he goes through a lot of bullshit, like he puts himself in a lot of bullshit, but like I feel like I'm always down to just like create though. You get what I mean? Like, and if me going through the bullshit like helps me create, then it's like fuck it. Like, bro, I literally just had a conversation with someone the other day. I was feeling like I had this issue, and it was either like maybe I can go fix this issue a hundred percent, you know, but why would I do that? Because maybe it may help me create.

You know what I mean? So, like, let's say like I have like ADD or ADHD. Like, I can go get medicine for that. You get what I mean? Like, but if that shit is helping me create, like, maybe a part of being a true artist is like, hell no. I'm not gonna take that. Because actually, like it's the downs. You know what I mean? Like, I need to. And the discomfort, it sounds like that maybe breeds the best creativity. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Maybe it sounds really corny to say, but like, I was probably like born an artist. Like, I'm really comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah You get what I mean. It's funny because I mean, you started pretty early. For sure. I mean, you were rapping at the lunch table. You started making music in all sorts of crazy ways and you know, recording music. What were some of those early ways that you were just whatever you could do to make music, produce music, record music. Like, do you remember some of those early ways that you were doing it? I'm in that weird middle childlike age. I'm 24.

So like I'm in that weird age where it was like, you know, the legends, you know, that are the legends, like we're still like the fucking legends, like Eminem, like, you know, Tupac, Biggie, like there was no disrespecting these guys. Like today, it's like, you know what I mean? Kids are like, fuck them niggas. You know what I mean? But like I hate kids. But I love them too, though. Cause you know, they have like a very- They have new ideas and fresh perspective, yep. But saying that, like, I just I just come from like a generation where like battle rapping was still kind of like a thing, like fucking writing on paper, like all that type of shit. You know what I mean? So I think with the lunch table shit, it was just like battle raps and just trying to make sure like my rap was better than like this nigga's or his or his or his or his and making sure you don't get outjoned. Exactly. I met my best friend Sahad, and when I met him, we just went through like so many different like trial and error versions of how to record. Like I remember the first time I ever went to his house, like after we decided that we were gonna make music, he was like, bro, I got this video camera.

I'ma just videotape you, right? With your headphones on, and then like I'm gonna edit the video to the song that I can't hear from this video, but somehow, some type of way it's gonna make sense. I'm like, okay. So like my first time like ever really trying to record is like on some fucking like small video camera type of situation, you know, and then we put it on the computer and realized, like, oh, we probably should have actually maybe had the beat playing out loud or something. You know what I mean? But like then after that. That's how music video directors are born. Facts, like, and then um we did like the let's try to record using voice memos on like an iPod or some shit. And then Yeah, you were using the nano. Yeah, yeah. I didn't even know that was a function of it, but when I heard that story, I was like, oh my god. And then and then you were also making beats on Yeah, bro. I was making beats on my PSP. So this sounds this sounds like Shout out to you, man. Whoa.

That is resourceful in the most definition of the word. How? So my mom. Did you like bootleg? I don't understand. Like, okay, so like, bro, it has to be somebody that remembers this. Like, I know I'm not tripping. Like my mom, like, got me the PSP for Christmas one day. And um, not Christmas one day, but obviously Christmas, but yeah, shout out mom. But December 25th, probably. And like, she bought me like Madden, like all the games that I like, and she bought me this shit called Tracks Pack. She knew I loved music. And she was like, I mean, I don't know what it does, but it says you can make music on here, and I shit you not like. It was like FL Studio, like on your PSP. And I'm not joking. It's crazy. So when I ended up downloading like FL Studio, like as a ninth grader, I think, I'm like, bro, this is really just tracks Pack. And people are like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, what are you talking about? But like, yeah, Glorified Tracks Pack. Yeah. And I was making beats on my PSP for sure. That's crazy.

Um, so so what was music for you at that time? Like, was it an escape? Was it a hobby? Was it something to keep you out of trouble? Was it something you thought you were gonna be professionally an artist? I mean, what was it for you at that time? I think a little bit of all of those things, honestly, like music for me just really felt good. Like I grew up playing basketball, like it felt good doing that, but I was like, after a little while, I'm like, I don't really feel like doing this shit. You know what I mean? Music was like, it just always felt like it made sense and it felt good. You know, what I mean, I don't really know if it was an escape. Like, I don't really know, like if I did it to stay out of trouble. Like, all I knew was that like, yo, I want to do this shit. And then like over time, like I realized like not only do I want to do this shit, but I am obsessed with being the best. You get what I mean? Like, so that's when you start taking it serious when it gets kind of competitive. Yeah, I want to be the best at this.

Yeah, for sure. I think even before things even got competitive for me, like shit was like, no, I have to be the best. Like, like I just vividly remember like the early stages of me developing like perfectionism. So you started a rap group with your buddy Sahad. Yeah, it was it was called NSK. What did it stand for? What's NSK stand for? Oh shit. Man, that shit stands for New Swag Kings, bro. New swag kings. New album coming soon, hopefully. Forever, bro. That shit was like, bro, we man, me that was part of the swag era though, I'm assuming, right? It was, it was it was cool back then It was cool to use the word swag. to use the word swag. Yeah, but it was still I I think it might have been lame to us then too, though. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, like at least you're self-aware now. Yeah, and bro, Sahad really put that battery in my back to be like, bro, you should do this for real. Like, he's seen me like rap at the lunch, like tables, and like he's seen me like in class, like on these websites, trying to make these beats and you know, picking like different things, and like, bro, like I remember like him just telling me, like, bro, like, nah, you should do this for real.

So, like the the early stages of us like trying to rap for real for real with all that other shit from like using like rock band microphones eventually to like the headphones that like you could talk into like this and before like we had someone else that used the rock band mic. Yeah, oh no, the rock band mics that's that shit like a clean sound, bro. Like he still uses that for the last actually the last project. It really picks up the low mids, really. Bro, like I just remember like really loving, I mean, I really love rock, you know what I mean? And so I made my mom buy me this game, and I just remember, bro, every day, like I would be on the phone with Sahad for like at least five hours minimum, just talking about rap and like writing raps together on the phone and shit. And I just remember like one day we was talking about some bullshit, and like I just remember looking at the rock band shit, and I was like, I think this is a USB, bro. Like, and he's like, No, it's not. I'm like, I think it's a USB.

bro. I think it's gonna fit in my computer. That's what I'm saying. Like, I really think this might actually like work. So I remember like begging my mom to take me to his house, and then like I spent the night, and we ended up, you know, trying to record on the rock band mic, and it fucking worked. And from there, like I was like, nah, this is it. Like, how else are you supposed to record? Like, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, and so I mean, you know, he admitted you were the best. Like, he, you know, he was not necessarily at that level that he saw you, you know. I mean, you were killing the talent shows, you were clearly the standout star in the group, you know, definitely showed you know promise at a at a very early age. Wow. Um, what when did you know that you were good enough? Did you like immediately know that? Or was there kind of like a talent show that you did? You're like, damn, I everyone was jumping, man. Like, I had that shit, you know, going to the point where like I I want to do this. I mean, like, this is like seventh, eighth grade for me.

Like, we were doing like so many talent shows that I can't like pinpoint one. Like, yeah, it got to the point, like, I remember one that we did, and that was like the domino effect for like all these other talent shows. But like, bro, we did one, and like we blew like the roof off that place. Like, yeah. And then from there, my school was like, nah, like y'all can go do these shows. Like, even if it's in the middle of the day or if it's in fucking South Carolina, like, y'all can do these shows Oh, damn. Like, got the love from the administrators. Yeah, like like my whole they saw a promise in you clearly at that point. A hundred percent. Like, so like maybe it was just a combination of a few things, like seeing other people like believe in me, like that wasn't just like my friend. Yeah, you know what I mean? It was like, wow, like, okay, like I must be doing something right. And then like I remember like the end of my eighth grade like year, we was going on like some school trip or some shit, and this girl's dad like knew like Gucci. And that was like crazy to me.

Like, yeah, and he was always you say, like, bro, I'm gonna help you get signed, like one day, and then like I'll never forget like just talking to like you know, when you're a kid, like you think some shit happened, yeah, but you're like, man, nah, that didn't happen. Like when you get older, like talking on the phone to like Gucci and him being like, bro, like, I'ma sign you when you get like off this trip, da da da da-da-da-da. Like, this is eighth grade. You really talk to Gucci. Yes. You get what I'm saying? Like, this is some real shit. Wow, you get what I mean? Like, so going on that school trip and all my friends being like, This nigga's finna make it. Like, he's gone. Like, it's little things like that. So, you've always had like a really strong vision for what you want, how you want to do it. For sure. You know, you mentioned that you have this perfectionist type of uh of mindset. Yeah. Do you think that's a blessing? Or do you think it's a curse? I think that it's a dangerous word when it comes to art. Perfect.

Man, it's it's so split down the middle. Like, I I tweeted about this the other day. Like, I think my perfectionism put me in like a really like dark space. But at the same time, like my perfectionism is the reason why I'm sitting here with y'all. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like it is a curse, but it is a blessing. Like, because like being a perfectionist, like, and I'm pretty sure you probably could say this shit too, like, but like you have way more downs than ups. You get what I mean? Like nothing is really ever good enough. Like, you know what I mean? Like, being a perfectionist is like a lot. Like, it really 99% of your time is spent trying to get it there. You get you get what I'm saying? Like, bro, like, I've I've I work on projects for so long, bro. Like, at least two, three years at a time. Like, and you know, a lot of it, you know, the time span comes from like industry bullshit, but like the majority of it comes from like me being a perfectionist and me feeling like bro, if it's not the best shit, I won't do it. Yeah, like and my perfectionism, like even like bleeds into like all my other things that I do like even with my day to day shit like I don't do a lot of interviews because it's like bro if it's not gonna be the best interview I'm not gonna do it yeah you get what I mean or thanks for choosing us facts you know what I mean? but like I'm not even gonna like post on Instagram if I don't feel like this is the best post.

Or I don't so like paralysis by analysis type of thing right where like sometimes you feel yourself maybe not acting if you're thinking too much. Yeah my perfectionism really like especially as a lately for like the past three years like really caused me to just be like no I'm not doing it. You know what I mean like I'm not gonna do a song if it's not the best song like and it's probably like a shit ton of like great ideas like O.D. would tell you like it's songs that he loves you know what I mean that I'm like no it's not the best song I ever heard so I'm not putting it out it'll never see the light of day I won't even like yeah I won't even fake leak it like I'm not even yeah and I'm not gonna send it to you. You get what I mean? I was literally about to ask would you send me some of those unreleased trash records? it'll be a moment probably like when I play them just to see if there's something there but like bro like bro dealing with perfectionism is like something I feel like I wish more artists talked about though. Yeah like yeah because as much as I studied the game as much as I studied rap as much as I studied all these albums and how to make these perfect albums and as much as I studied, like oh how to talk maybe how to dress or you know people like these beats or this that and the third like bro you can't study you know, and know how to deal with, you know, being a perfectionist, bro.

Yeah. Because it comes with so much shit. You know what I mean? Like, do you find yourself like going back to stuff that you didn't think was perfect in borrowing or recycling, or do you just kind of leave it in the past? I'm gonna say I wish I could sit here and tell you, like, I go back, you know what I mean, and pull from like shit. Yeah, bro. Like, I really don't. really don't. like I pretty much know, like while I'm making something, like, if it's special or not, you know, what I mean, if this is something that's gonna like, bro, like I have a list of things that like while I'm making a song, like it has to pass like these, like, you know, things for me has to have longevity or a sense of longevity to it. Like, it has to like, you know, pass a certain like bar radar. And I know that sounds so corny to say because a lot of people don't even give a fuck about lyrics, but for me, like, bro, I I give a fuck. You get what I mean? Like, and like the beat has to be like, you know, the beat has to make me feel a certain way, like, you know, what am I doing? Like, does it have some type of factor to it where it gives me like a shock factor? You know, what am I saying?

Like, can you feel it? You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, I have a whole bunch of ideas, but like, bro, I pretty much know, like, yeah, this is shit. You know, what I mean? I've been going through that with my beats. I have some beats that are, you know, two, three, four years old where I was like on the verge of catching a vibe, right? And I wonder if it's worth, you know, going back to some of those and trying to re-spark it, or if it's just kind of gonna be hard to light that flame again, you know. I say don't be like me because it's like bro, like, bro. Bro. Bro. For real. I feel like it's always worth trying. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, but bro, like, man, I have beats from some of the best producers in the world. Like, and I'm just like, I can't. What I want to say is not the best shit I've ever heard in my life, so I'm not even gonna do it. Wow. Like, yeah, so let's talk about some of the collaborators, right? You tend to work with people that you've built or that you want to build an actual like personal relationship. You don't seem to treat it very like professional business only, right?

Like you, I mean, to the point where like with James Blake, for example. I mean, tell us a story of kind of how y'all first met, and then fast forward to now, you know, uh surprise, you guys are like brothers almost from what I've heard, right? So tell us about how you met him and and how that whole relationship started. When I was at Republic, like I met James at Republic Studio, like, and I remember this is I might have just got my advance. So like I got I'm in a good ass mood. You get what I mean? Like, I'm in a great motherfucking mood. You know what I mean? So lucky for James, you know. Facts. So like I just remember like pulling up to the studio, buzzing the gate, and being like, someone's like, hello. I'm like hello, James. Yeah, uh anyway. This is Suave. I'm here for the you know, the the room that I've been in for the couple days or whatever. Um, all right, just give me one second.

And he comes to the door, and he's just tall ass white nigga. Like, I'm just like, bro, you James Blake? And he was like, Are you Suave? I'm like, absolutely. The fact that you even know the fact is like the fact that you even know who I am is like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's a moment. Does he think you do a good James Blake impersonation? Or uh no. I like your English accent. It's not bad. It's pretty good. my English accent's pretty spot on. I kept waiting for it to like crack, you know, but spot on with a cup of tea. Yeah. No, a lot. James is a lot, very lot. He talks a lot from about here. That's why he sings back ass. But also like pay attention to people and how they talk. Like, I'm very like observing. So like, yeah. So like meeting James, like, you learn that like UK accents. Oh my god, he's gonna do the whole episode like this. Please, man. So like how James would talk. Like most people when they do their UK accent, they just do it and always have a high voice. Like males don't have a high voice It's like a fucking voice.

James has like a deep voice. So obviously, like you put bass in his accent. In your voice. You know, in your voice. Like most people do like Harry Potter. Like, that's not how they talk. And then you have that, and then you have like maybe like slow talk. Oh, it's more like, let's slow, like, More like, yeah, relax, yeah. It says, yeah, like. Isn't it, bro. Okay. So James. Blake. but James, like, he hates the accent, but like his Atlanta accent. I'm like crying, man. If y'all ever interview James, bro, like ask him to do his Atlanta accent. I hate that. We'd love to have you on the podcast, man. Love to have you. His Atlanta accent sucks. That sounds hilarious. It's not true, James. We'd still love to have you on. It sucks. You know that though. But like, bro, we talked like we met each other, and like it's one of those moments where you just instantly hit it off with somebody. Like we talked for like two hours, and then like went into a room, and I guess like, bro, even like the engineer was like, these niggas probably finna talk for the rest of this session today. Like, you know what I mean?

Like he had the easiest session he's ever had. Facts. And I I really feel like the next day, like I was at his house, and like we've been working on like music and just like building a relationship. But like, I always give James like the the praise that he deserves because that man, like, really like has saved my life. You get what I mean? Like, he is really like one of those people that like you don't even know why you deserve this. You know what I mean? Like, he is amazing. You know, from like him believing in me, like, bro, this is James Blake. Like, this is a Grammy nominated, like really prestige type of artist. Like, for him to like believe in me enough to not only be like, no, I'm gonna help put Swae on, like, no, I'm also gonna like go the extra mile to put him on, like invite him to my house. Invite him to my house, and but it's been places that I really genuinely should not be. You know what I mean?

With this nigga, like, bro, I've met some of the craziest people, like just fucking with this nigga. Like, you know what I mean? So, like, bro, James is more than like a brother to me. Like, he's like damn near like a father figure to me, like, yeah, and you know, I'm I'm really just blessed, like that he is even in my life, bro. Like, I I don't even know where to start. Like, you know, I had a conversation with him like maybe a couple months ago, like he's getting like executive producer, like or credits and points for like my albums for like the next 10 years, I think. Yeah, like it's like that much, like he means that much for sure. Yeah, and and I mean you've done that now, maybe not to that degree, but even like the connection that you built with Pyrex, yeah, uh, and then 20 Rocket and Coop. Yeah. Like these are people that you but you didn't want to, you know, you could have just hit him up for a pack. Right.

But you you seem to wanna, is that because that's just how you feel comfortable making music? Like, you know what it is, bro. Like, and I feel like this is another thing, kind of like the uh perfectionism thing. I feel like people are like, they make it so lame to be a fan. Like, bro, I'm a fan, like, first. Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm a fan of music, period. Like, bro, like, I heard the blue cheese salad song by young nudie. I hit Coop up and like, bro, you are amazing. You get what I mean? Like, I don't even know what went through your head, like to make this beat. He produced that one. Yeah. It is crazy. I showed him that the other day. Cause I was like, thinking like damn, like, I wonder how we even like met for real. Like at this point, scrolled, scrolled back up all the way up to the top. All the beats and all this shit. And I'm like, oh yeah, nah, bro. Like, I'm showing you I really am a fan. Like, and I think that's what it is for me. Like, I want to work with people that like not like, I don't give a fuck about like your social instant Instagram type of like, or even how popular you are to the world. Like, bro, am I a fan of you or not?

You know what I mean? Like, it's that simple. It's literally that simple. So it's like, of course, you want to build a relationship with someone you're a fan of. Like, I'm a fan of 20 Rocket. Like, I'm a fan of James Blake. I'm a huge fan of Coop. You get what I mean? Like, I'm a huge fan of fucking like Pyrex. You know what I mean? Like, they're just talented as fuck to me. I think the music is better that way too, man. A hundred percent. It's just more organic. You're not, you're not going on YouTube and looking for tight beats. I still be on YouTube looking for tight beats. We're clearing like how many tight beats is on the album? Like four of them. Okay. One of them, well, I have a song called Five Minutes. That's the sort of thing. So does that give you inspiration to keep the YouTube beat channel up? You should it does. Yes. It does. A hundred percent. You could have gotten a placement on Swae's project. He could have found you. but I love the in-person shit too. I like building relationships. Well, that's fine. I'm gonna tell you something though before we go to the next shit. Like, I kind of hate the in-person producer pull up. Unless like I have already, we've already been working. Like by the time I really linked Coop and Rocket, we had already had songs like for my album. You know what I mean?

I'ma always like be a send the pack nigga. Okay, so you send that first. Yeah, but not even like a pack, like send me like two or three that you really fuck with. You know what I mean? And then from there, like it's like, you know, let's keep working, and then it's like, well, shit, we might as well link up for real. You know what I mean? But just because I hate going to the studio, like, because I'm a perfectionist, like, I don't want to go to the studio with someone I'm a fan of, or a producer, even that maybe I'm not a fan of, that someone kind of just threw me in a session with, and like they make something that I really, really love, or even if I really, really hate, and they kind of expect me to rap right then and there. That is my biggest fear, bro. I'll be damned if this is someone's first time meeting me, and like the Suave that they love is not present. Yeah. Freestyle a hit right now on this beat. Go. You know what I mean? Like, I I'm like, fuck. Like, but like now I'm getting a little bit more to the point where it's like, listen, like, I'm gonna let you know, like I may or may not rap today. So one of your earlier projects was called Before I Die.

Spelled E Y E. Right in the in the middle. That's not a metaphor. I mean, you had a near death or a very tragic car accident, right? Yeah, yeah. Tell the people about what happened before that project and then kind of what the project was all about. I was making that project um at like a very like weird time in my life. Like, I was at that stage where like I was going from boy to man. You know what I mean? I'm fucking over a lot of people in the process. Like I'm doing a lot of stupid shit in the process. And I'm realizing like, oh shit, like I can really be someone special with my music. And in the midst of that, like I get into like a crazy car accident, like someone like T-bones me going like 80 miles an hour. Jesus. And like the whole right side of my body is was like broken. And like they thought I was dead.

Like, no funny shit. Like I got out the car and I was just laying on the ground and like I just remember being able to see everything around me. But my body is like looking up, but I could see everything. Damn. And then like it just kind of put me in the mindset of being like, yo, like, what is everything like I would want to say, you know, before, you know, I die. And then I got my guy Eric Gussler, who helped me like tremendously with that project. And um we just made those records, you know. You go from four to five talent shows a month to playing one of the biggest stages in the world rolling loud. Right. Tell us about that that first festival experience. What was that like? It was Did it feel like the talent show? A little bit bigger. You know what? It did feel like a talent show. Cool. Like being like an up and coming artist and like making it to rolling loud, I feel like it meant so much, but like you gotta have a little bit of you know, perspective with this shit. Like, I'm an up and coming artist, like I'm not finna perform at fucking 7 p.m.

Like No, it was like noon probably, right? I got to the fucking show. We didn't do no sound check, no nothing. And I just remember like learning, like, oh shit, like when I run out, because you know the stage is kind of long. Yeah, it's like giant. So, this is, like, I'm really giving like up and coming artists like a real big heads up. This is for like every festival, too. The longer that stage is, your mic is like can't hear what's going on, right? It's delayed. Yeah. Like, because it's like essentially like a Bluetooth situation. So the closer you are, the more real time it has. You know what I mean? So that's going on for me. Like the first thing I do is like I see the long stage, I'm like, oh shit. I run out on this long ass stage, and I'm just like rapping. I'm like, the fuck is it delayed for? Like, um, so that's going on. I'm looking at this, I'm in this stadium type of situation, like, but it's only like a hundred niggas here. You get what I mean? So, like, I was just thinking, like, it was a very like surreal moment for me. It was like, bro, I'm just so happy to fucking be here.

And I know that one day I won't be performing as soon as I wake up. You get what I mean? Like, I'll be performing as soon as I wake up. you'll at least get to eat lunch, maybe an afternoon snack. But it was it, bro, it was an amazing time. I'm doing it again this year. Oh, which one? The LA one. Okay. Hell yeah. And I'll probably still have a relatively earlier set, you know what I mean? But like, bro, I'm just bro, you gotta think like to make it with this music shit, bro. Like, this is like a one in like six million type of situation. You get what I mean? Like, oh, the odds are incredibly stacked against you. Rolling loud, like you're ahead of 99.999%. Another huge accomplishment for you, or at least that I thought was amazing. You were part of the Spider-Man. Oh, yeah. Into the Spider-Verse, is that what it's called? Yeah, yeah. And that project was Grammy nominated, right? Yeah. So I mean, that's You're Grammy nominated. yeah. Exactly. You're Grammy nominated. Yeah. How did that? I mean, were you a fan of Spider-Man growing up, first of all? I'm a Batman type of nigga.

See, me too. That's why I was like, oh, that's cool. He was on Spider-Man. Batman but like Batman just cool as fuck. Batman got bitches, gadgets, cars, money. You know what I mean? Spider-Man, like kind of lame. You know what I mean? But like Peter Parker. I fucked with this Spider-Man though, so I was like, no, I a hundred percent want to be a part of it. You get what I mean? And like, you know, that was my first time doing like a real sync. And that was definitely an experience. You know, it's crazy. Like when I went to go see the movie, like it's only like the Swae Lee and Post Malone song that's fucking huge, the Sunflower shit. And then like my song. That's the only songs from the album that's like in the actual movie, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So that's- Yeah, because it's the soundtrack, but yet man, that not every song makes the movie. So that shit sent that shit the fuck out of there. It's crazy. You know what I mean? So you you know, you you mentioned you're super hands-on with your artistry, right? You know, you like to kind of be involved with a lot. I mean, to the point that you even edit some of your own music videos, most recently, the the yeah yeah video. Yeah, I love that song, by the way.

Thank you, man. Seriously. That's one of my favorites, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's like some real Atlanta shit right there. Nah, it is, yeah. And the video as well. Goes back to my perfectionism, bro. Like, I was tired of like watching so many music videos and then looking at my shit and being like, why is my shit not as hard as this? You know what I mean? Like, what is it that I have to know? You know what I mean, to get my videos to be here. So it was just like, you know what? I need to treat my videos the same way I treat my music. And I think it was a domino effect from that, with being like, you know what? I need to treat everything that I'm a part of, like I treat my music. Like I really need to dive deep in this shit, learn as much as I can so I can like know how to do it. And I feel like there's no better way than knowing how to do it than knowing how to fucking do it. You get what I'm saying? So like and it's a big difference from like me being like, bruh, turn the, you know what I'm saying? This shit just so muddy in my ear, like I hate that shit.

Then being like, yo, can you turn the the bass down or maybe add this EQ to it? Like, or maybe add a compressor. You get what I mean? Like the same difference is like throw some grain on that shit. Make it look old schooly, you know what I mean? Make it look like filmy or whatever, you know what I mean? To being like, no, like, I don't like an eight millimeter type of look. I want the 16 millimeter type of look. You know what I mean? And I want it to be flat and I want it to be shot like this with this lens, and you know what I mean? So especially as like a weirdly independent artist, like you kinda you you have to. Like you really have to. Like you really have to know exactly what you want, exactly, you know, what you want it to look like, how it's supposed to sound, you know what I mean? Before you get to these places and they tell you, like, nah, you know what? This look like this. Yeah. Set that foundation for yourself. So, you know, when you get to those places, like, you can't change this shit. Like, it's already. said. because if they buy in at that point, they're buying into whatever you've already fucking done. Exactly.

Not trying to fix it. So, what are some other adjectives you would say that that describe you? I like asking this question to our guests to kind of see, you know, how they perceive themselves and obviously how they want to be perceived. I want to say great with someone who just aspires to be great. You know what I mean? Um driven. Driven as fuck. Um, a bit of an ass. I'm a jackass for sure. Okay. Good to know. And I mean, listen, understanding. I think you have to like have a heightened sense of understanding. You know what I mean? Like in reality to like make it. You know what I mean? So like this sounds really like ass to say, but like I'm super understanding about any and everything. Especially when it relates to like my career or like music in general, you know what I mean? I feel like a lot of the disconnect between like the youth and uh I guess what people would say, like the OGs, like old heads. The old heads, like I feel like the understanding is just not there.

You know what I mean? Like from both sides. So on the one more time podcast. One more time. When we feel like a guest has dropped a gem. We asked them to just some give them that one one more time. Cause that's that's a what I say. I I feel like the under there's not an understanding between like the youth and what people would say are the old heads. You know what I mean? Like just not on both sides though. Yeah. The youth I feel like my age and like and I'm of course below, definitely feel like, you know what, bro? Yo, Fuck what you were doing. I don't like it. Or I may like it, but I don't care. I like this. This is how we're doing it. Deal with it. Well, we need to understand. It's okay to like study. You know what I mean? Like it's okay to like know like this person did something kind of similar to mine, like maybe like 20 years ago. Let me look at this nigga and make sure I don't fuck this shit up. Yeah. You get what I mean? Like, let me watch him fuck up and see how he fucked up and apply it to myself.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Or like it's okay to take. You know what I mean? It's okay, it's okay to be inspired. Like, you know. And of course, the old heads just don't understand, like the same shit everybody is jumping down their throats for not understanding, you know, like, which is that the youth just want to do what the fuck they want to do. You get what I mean? Like, and you gotta just rock with it or you know, just shut the fuck up. So you so you talked about, you know, kind of the stresses and the pressures that come along with you know being in the industry and and trying to make it in music and just creativity as a whole. What are some of the things outside of music that you like to do to get away from it all? I'm really into mini golf, bro. Like really like putt-putt for real, for real. Like, I always wanted mini golf. Like, if someone is like, if someone wants to so random, bro. If someone wants, bro, most things that I'm gonna do. You'll clear your schedule. Yeah, bro. I will like, you get what I'm saying? Like, shit is getting moved aside. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Like for mini golf. So yeah, he almost blew us off for a round of mini golf, I think. Bro, man, listen. If someone would have hit him up saying, hey, you want to get in uh quick 18 I would have been like, listen. Like, how much do I really want to do the podcast? Like, bro, cool. We appreciate you sticking with us. I really fuck with mini golf, like no top golf, really, just like the putting. I fucking hate top golf. Wow, top golf is so stupid too. So, what's your favorite mini golf course around Atlanta? Area 51 is the best one. Area 51. It's in the Alpharetta. it's a little bit of a drive. That in this place by Town Center in Kennesaw called Mount Asia. like, which I have I want to buy this place so bad. Oh man. Because it's got it, he's got aspirations of owning a mini golf course. Just so you can play for free. Like, and I know, bruh, if if they watch this shit, like I'm sorry, but like they know it's fucked up. You know what I mean? Like, you know how they got the waterfalls and shit? Like, like it's all fucked up.

You know what I mean? Like the water is like brown and green, like but it's your favorite. But it's so like It has the potential. You get what I'm saying? It has that classic nostalgic feel of like this is mini golf. Area 51 is like we dressed it up, man. Like new age shit. Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? So I'm really into mini golf. I'm like a film like addict. You know what I mean? Like, which sucks too, because I feel like so many people today are like, I don't have the attention span to watch a movie. Yeah, yeah. So I hate that. Oh, I mean, we asked a bunch of people, you know, movies or or uh TV shows on the podcast, and TV shows. I would say TV shows is like almost a go-to because it's just just shorter. So I'm mini golfing, watching a lot of movies. Um I'm still kind of in music, like learning how to like play some instruments. Oh, really? What are you playing? Yeah, what do you picking up? I'm learning how to play the guitar again. This is my second time, like giving it a go. Like I played when I was younger and I was pretty straight, but like now I'm like, you know what? Bro,

these two fingers right here, like still fucked. Really? That's how you know you're doing it right. Bro, you know what I mean? Like, my first day, like I bought an acoustic and uh I bought an electric too, but like my first day with the acoustic again, like I played for like maybe like four hours straight. Wow. This was like three weeks ago. Damn. Fingers, I still feel that shit from the first day. Yeah, I can never get into it, man. It's a lot, bro. It's it's definitely. I tried the ukulele too, and like even that, I just couldn't. I don't know, I couldn't couldn't stick with it. You're a sax man. Yeah, well, yeah, I play saxophone. so I I I did that all, yeah. I did that all through school. I've actually uh, you know, gotten on a song that Henry hopefully will put him in the booth one time. Yep, yep. It was fun, bro. Bro, I wish I wouldn't have known this when I was making my album, bro. Hey, for the next one, man. Facts. I'll get you a little uh lick, you know, out of love. One of one live sample. Yeah, for sure. So tell the people about Crazy Man. What is Crazy Man all about?

That's your newest brand, right? Yeah. If I'm being a hundred percent honest, bro, like I kind of hate merch. Okay. Like I despise it. Like, but yet you started a uh clothing line. You're trying to fix it. You know what I mean? Like, bro, I feel like when I buy someone's merch, right, like I buy it, I wear it one time, like most of the time to be funny, but like I wear it one time, and then I'm like, it gets washed, it gets dried, I work out in it for the rest of my life. Wow. You know what I mean? Like, I hoop in this shit. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I've always been an artist that made merch. Like, I've always made merch. And I hate it. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, I'll make it and be like, So it's like a necessary evil. Yeah, like I'll make it and then I'll be like, actually, I don't really like this. I'm only making this because I feel like people will like this. It's the second biggest moneymaker for artists right now, too, behind shows. You know, shows and then merch and like streaming. I mean, that's down there.

Yeah. So for me, it was like, you know what? I'm gonna still have my merch. Like, when I do my album, there will be like traditional, simple ass shirts, yeah, hoodies, you know, whatever. Whatever. But like originally Crazy Man was gonna be like a brand that like I'm wearing that I really, really fucking love. Yeah, like every piece is something I want to wear for the rest of my life. I've only I've only wore Crazy Man drawers for like a year. Yeah. But I have them on right now. Yeah. And I love them. You know what I mean? Like, this is a Crazy Man tee. Like, I fucking like hate T-shirts that are like small right here. Yeah. Because they fucking once I like wash them, they're fucked up. This is the thing though. If you know what you like and you know what you want, then do that. But I feel like for me, originally Crazy Man was going to be like a brand, I mean it still is a brand of like clothes that I really really love. You know what I mean?

And like have a story to them, something with meaning, you know what I mean? Like very high quality, like um, but then over time, like Crazy Man just kind of like turns into like more of just a service company. Like, I don't want it to be just a label. I don't want it to just be a clothing line or you know a marketing group or a management group, even like me and Dylan are doing like a management thing. Okay, you know, like so what kind of services? Shout out Dylan. Oh, shout out Dylan. So Mr. Dylan Brown, we'd love to love to have you on the podcast for sure. It's been a long time in the works. There's gonna be a lot of smoke in this bitch. That's we've had guests that have done a lot of smoking, so we just got like some plans to like really actually like help people. Like, I feel like there's like there's a lot of artists that like they're not ready to sign, but they need someone to invest in them to get them to a point where it's like yo, like now you're ready to sign to a major record label. Like kind of like the old school like production company.

Exactly type of situation, but like with more like likable terms. You know what I mean? Like, so it's not actually kicking this artist's ass. You know what I mean? Like short term, just partnering with like some directors to do some other things, and like of course the clothes. Um, we got like I'm actually making like furniture, like real, like not. So it's like really becoming like a lifestyle brand overall, like with multi-dimensional type of type shit. You know what I mean? Like, it's more than just like a a something you can label. Yeah, you get what I mean. It's it's just something that like where did the name come from? Is it talking about you? Man, you are you the crazy man? Yeah, are you the crazy? man? I am the crazy man. Like, you know what I mean? Like, but like I said, like my perfectionism and all this other shit, like so many things have to work out for you to be like, for you to make it. Like, yeah, something me and James talk about is like we say this all the time, like, bro, you really gotta be a little crazy to do this shit. To wanna even do this shit.

You get what I mean? Like, and I feel like the person I am, I really go overboard, and I always go the extra mile. Like, I'm actually the crazy man. Like the things I obsess over, like, you know, what I mean, it's like ridiculous. Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's just kind of embracing that, like, nah, like, it's okay to be a little throwed off, a little crazy to, you know, it's almost necessary. It's necessary. You get what I mean? So that's where it kind of came from. And then you know, one of my ad libs is like the crazy man, like in my songs. Okay. So you mentioned, you know, rolling loud LA. I think you had mentioned or alluded to working on a project as well. Are those kind of the things we should be, you know, be looking forward to? Anything else you want to make sure that the people are are anxiously awaiting? Plug yourself right now. This album, I I only want people to give a fuck about this album. You know what I mean? Like the one I'm about to drop. Does it have a name yet? Almita sun. Okay. My mom's name is Almita,

and she uh you are. Yeah, Almita sun. And I feel like when you listen to my other music, like I think it's it's safe to say you can walk away from it and be like, bro, I know nothing about Suave. Like, this is really cool, you know what I mean? But I know nothing about this nigga. You know what I mean? So I think Almita sun kind of, you know, fills in that blank You know what I mean? Like, and that's so key, man. It is. To build those like strong super fans, super fan type of you know, type of relationships, they gotta know that you're something more than just a really dope lyricist or a really dope artist in that sense, right? For them to latch on to, you know, you it's gotta be, yeah, you gotta pull that curtain up. And I feel like I'm in a I'm in a spot in my career where it's like, you know, what am I what am I about to say? What the fuck am I about to do? You get what I mean? Like, I'm in that if I'm being honest, like I'm in that that point in my career where it's like, bro, it's time now. You know what I mean?

Like, you either transcend or you stay stagnant. It definitely takes me in it in the direction of where I want to go. Yeah, you know what I mean? That's awesome. So this has been an amazing episode. I think it's time for an amazing last final segment of the podcast. It's everyone's favorite Suave. I think it's gonna be yours too. Henry, where we at? This is the rapid fire rampage. Okay, curated by myself, Henry with the three. And I love how serious you just got. Yeah, he got he took the shades off and everything. That was only because face ID wasn't messing with me with the shades on, but now they're back. Don't get too excited about him taking the shades off. I'm still I'm still Zen. Okay. So this is a three-part rampage. Okay. So first part, I'm just gonna fire off some short answer questions. Second part is a this or that. I'm just gonna give you two choices. You pick one. Okay. Third part's a word association. I'm gonna just give you a word, you give me a word back. Just like that. That's gonna be really bad for me, but okay. That's what we like because you don't have time to think about it. It's rapid fire.

You know, we're humanizing you, Suave. That's right. It's like your uh your upcoming album's gonna do that. Y'all are crazy. He is wearing a yellow robe with a hood on and sunglasses. A pink shirt too, though. And a pink shirt. With the sushi. God. For for those of you that are not watching this on YouTube, please head to Henry with a three YouTube channel right now to just roast the shit out of him in the comments. Or if you think I'm dripping, let me know. Facts. Tell him he's dripping, bro. Encourage this, bro. Thank you. Rapid Fire Rampage Part one, Suave, One More Time Podcast, Episode 19. Rampage. Here we go. Starting with the short answers. Give us two artists in your top five of all time. Kendrick Lamar. Eminem. What do you think are some of the most important aspects of a good live show? Being personable. and uh not having uh too many backing vocals. You know what I mean?

I don't want to just listen to the song. I could do that at the crib. You've been given a panda bear as a gift. Okay. You can't give it away or sell it. What do you do with it? Let him get the upstairs. Let him get the office room. He's he's in the he's he's in now. Or we could let him get the garage. You know what I mean? Like, he's here, bro. And you said I can't get rid of him, but I can't do nothing to get rid of him. You got him. So you might as well just get upstairs or some shit. You know what I mean? I'm gonna chip in around the house. Definitely charging him rent. You know what I mean, that's for sure. You know what I mean you are packing to leave town for a month. Mm-hmm. What are the first three things you grab? My underwear. Crazy man underwear. Crucial. Crazy Man underwear. Crazy Man drawers. My most comfortable shoe at the time. And uh the mechanical toothbrush. Mm. For sure. Actually, the gym. Let's take off the uh I mean, I'm gonna grab the mechanical toothbrush, but I refuse to travel without the Dermalogica

kit, like the skincare kit. I'll fly my like your dop kit, or whatever you know what I'm saying. Like I will like with all your toiletries and like face stuff. I'll fucking like ship my shit. You know what I mean? Or fucking like pay for the bag to get checked in before I, you know, leave that at the crib. Like that is a must. It's a good answer too, because it's like uh all in one kind of situation. Yeah, I'll just cheated for sure. Yeah, I thought about that too. there's way more than three things in that dop kit, but he's just bringing the dop kit that's full. That's an acceptable answer. So I would say that's pretty genius. Mayor of Atlanta, Keisha Bottoms, decrees strip club general that you, Suave, can only go to one Atlanta restaurant for the rest of your life. Oh, that's easy. Ray's on a river. You ever been there? Of course. Ray's on the river, the best place. That's

an interesting answer, though. The best that's fine dining. I shouldn't even have dropped that gym because I don't even want niggas to know that's my spot. Like, I'm there weekly. I'm there weekly, though. Like, I'm gonna go there. He's a Ray's regular. This is this is great. He's a frequent flyer. Bro, I'm I'm gonna go to Rays. He's on the rewards program at Ray's. Did this come out today? No, I'm not that good at editing. Sorry. Okay, one Thursday in the future. One Thursday in the future. I'm listening He'll probably be at Ray's. I'm there, I'm there today, so I'm not even really tripping. You get what I mean? If you're listening to this episode, there's a good chance that Suave's at Ray's right now. Head to Rays. Get to Rays. Facts. Get some fine dining. Enjoy your meal. It's a conversation with Suave. On a scale of one to ten, how weird do you think you are? Ten. Nine. Because it'd be some niggas that got fetishes. That's a little wild. Okay. Like I don't have no wild fetish.

Sexually, you're a five. I'm I'm I'm definitely throwed off. Like, I'm I'm throw the fuck off. Like, you get what I mean? Like, yeah, I'm definitely, I moved to the beat of my own fucking drum. I'm like, bro, I'm definitely throw, but I'm I'm proud though. So it's not like you don't even really notice that I'm weird. Because I'm letting you know, like, you know, what I mean that's why I like that question. I mean, you are the crazy man, so exactly that's what I'm saying. Like, you already kind of know that meeting me. You know what I mean? I would have called bullshit if you were like two. Exactly. Yeah. Nine. Not so crazy, Mr. Crazy Man. 9.127. You can ask God one question. What is it? That is a Suave question for sure. Um I was waiting to use that. I had to do it. If I could ask God one question, let me see the book of secrets. It gotta be.

I know this nigga got a book of secrets that's has everything. Like, how did this happen? Like, is this nigga really dead? Like, what the earth would look like? You know what I mean? It's another like all in one answer. It's smart. I'm man. He's getting multiple answers from his one question. Judges, is that a fair answer? Okay, Yep. They gotta be. Yep. It's fine. Let me see the book of secrets. Let me know what's let me know what's really going on. You know what I mean? Like it. Part one of the rampage. You're doing great. So this is the this or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. Pick the one that speaks to you the most. Here we go. I love this voice. Yeah, I like to get real intimate for the rampage. But you gotta get close to the mic so it still picks up your syllables. Writing or freestyling? Riding. A hundred percent. Braves game or the Hawks game? Braves. All day. I'm the biggest. I'm at Ray's. I'm at the Braves. Ray's and Braves. Ray's and Braves. I'm a I'm a Ray's and Ray's at the moment. I'm a be a little

I'm gonna be a little, I'm a be a little a little personal. In studio. Right now. I'm gonna be a a little too personal. Where I used to live, I would go up the street, Ray's is straight. If I make a left, the Braves Stadium is right there. I don't know. Sounds like a heavenly spot for you. Bro, I could walk to the Braves game. Did you ever leave that hood like at all? I could like walk to the Braves game and get there. If I left at 7:15, I could I would get there. Obviously, new Braves Stadium. Truesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Truest park. Fuck the- Not the Turner field. Fuck Turner. Oh, oh, oh. This shit was trash. Oh, man. Man. Fuck Turner, man. Let's move on, because I don't know. I don't like what you're saying right now. Spotify or Apple music. Spotify pays the best. Let's just, you know, leave it at that. that. But listen, Apple music is just so organized. Like it may, that may be some old nigga shit, but bro, that shit is just so

Organized. I love the organization of the Apple Music. but you just pull it up, you get straight to it. Like you get what I mean? Like I it's just, it's I'm just so used to it. I use the Mac, like, man, I don't know, man. It's an acceptable answer. Underrated too. Cats or dogs. Dogs. Fuck cats. Agreed. On stage or in the studio? In the studio, bro. Performing is shit. Crushed ice or cubed? None. No ice. No ice. Singles, EP, or album? Albums. I fucking hate EPs, bro. They make what is an EP? It's a short album. It's semantics at this point. Drop the full shit. What the bro, like, I have one EP out that's like three songs. But it's really like a single, actually. A single can be up to three songs. Which I never understood that whole thing. I love that versus the EP. EP, like being like, why would why the fuck?

Because it takes you two or three years to make an album with people want a body of work before then. They're gonna have to wait. All right. Because it's like, bro. There you go. An EP just makes no sense to me. Like, there's I don't know. Like, and I get it. Like, bro, like, I'm probably only gonna like five songs from this album anyway. Like, I've heard every argument supporting the EP, bro. I'm just not for it, bro. Like, cool. Ugh, no. Day or night. Night. Day. Day. Day for sure. Because night. Bro. I'm sorry. Bro, I'm just not doing shit at the nighttime. Like daytime, bro. I book all my studio sessions in the daytime. Yeah. I can go to Ray's, the Brave, Mini Golf. We can go to dude seriously loves Ray's. Are you sponsored by Ray's? No. On the river? I would never do that. Because I would be there too much. You know what I'm saying? Like, daytime is just better. Like recording in the day, way better. Like, bro, like, fuck that.

3 a.m. studio shit. Like, let's just get it. I mean. California or New York. California. 100%. Rapping or singing? Rap. For sure. That rappity rap. I can I can hold a tone though. You can. Drums or flats. Flats. Good man. Part two of the rampage. Those are some tough ones. I ain't gonna lie. That was some tough shit. Couple road bumps there, but he's doing good overall. I'm cheating too, though. Like, you know what I mean? That's okay though. Because we didn't the rules are just there. You know, you can break the rules. Well, now's the final part. Word association. I'm gonna give you one word. First word off the top of your head. Part three. Rapid fire rampage. Suave. One more time podcast, episode 19. Rampage! Guitar. Nirvana. Lambo. Soulja boy.

Stress. Me. Ice cream. Rita's Italian ice. We're gonna talk about that later. I'm very upset with that answer. It's the best. It's not even ice cream. Anyway. Sports. LeBron James. Bitcoin. The first word I thought of was bitch coin, but that's it, though. Stop there. I'm gonna say KJ. My friend KJ is really big on Bitcoin. Yeah. On Bitcoin? On bitch coin? On bitch coin too. For sure. Both of them. He definitely on both. Yeah. We could mint Bitchcoin and make it a thing. Reverb. What's Valhalla? Valhalla Reverb. Yeah. It's a classic. The best one. It's a classic. This guy does know his recording. Shout out to James. Yeah. I'm an engineer too. I know, yeah, I can tell. Yeah. For shit show. Atlanta. Braves. Pokemon.

I think that was an answer right there. Yeah, that's fine. You don't have to say anything after that. It was enough. I thought about Adrian, my cousin Adrian. he's a huge Pokemon nigga when I was a kid. Pokey Dweeb. Yeah. So is Henry still at this age. Big time. Auto-tune. 20. Because I use autotune a lot and I I put it on 20. That's your retune speed. Yeah, Is 20? if you use an autotune pro, like you want to sound like Suave, which you shouldn't want to because it's not that good, Set your retune speed to 20. The 20. That's where I'm at. Yeah. Lil Bow Wow. Which is my password to the majority of my shit. Because that's one of my favorite rappers growing up. Wow. We'll edit that out so you don't get hacked. No, we're we're including that. They're not gonna. I mean, listen. Hopefully he has some capitalization or something. I'm finding out how many ends are in his bank account for sure. Billboard. I thought about Drake, I'm just thinking about like the CLB rollout or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was really tough. Yeah, I like that. That was tough. Bass. I thought about like two things at once. I thought about Rob Bass, the guy who makes uh It Takes Two. Like, it takes two to make a thing. Yeah, yeah. And then I thought about Bose headphones for some reason. Bose has good bass response. Government, response. yeah. Uh Obama, bro. JID. Amazing friend. Two words, collab. Collab. An amazing friend. What a rapper. real amazing friend. Yeah. Like. For real. Two elite rappers there, Suave and Jid. That's right. Which, by the way, could we look forward to any JID Suave Collaboration? Bruh. We got the song on James Blake's album coming out. Okay. There you go.

On the eighth. All right. I could say that. Hell yeah. Okay. Well, we'll just leave it there. This has been an amazing episode, my friend. We really appreciate you coming on. For those of you that are tuned in, please like, subscribe, follow. This has been an amazing episode. We learned a lot about you. We appreciate you telling your story. Hope you had a good time. I know you were uh, you know, considering mini golf over this, but hopefully this is an okay use of time. Uh, but we really appreciate it, man. And until next week, we are out. So peace. Pop that shit like one more time. Pop that one more time. Pop that shit like one more time. Pop that one more time. Oh. Hop up in that foreign skirt. Oh. Oh, don't want me to shit dripping. Middle finger to the law. Yeah.