Managing Mexikodro and Hooping with ATL Legends ft. Woah

And as much as you think an artist or producer are your friends, they're really not. If you're managing a client, you know what I'm saying? You can have like a really great personal relationship with them, but at the end of the day, they're not your friends. The One More Time Music Podcast. Genuine Conversations with Genuine People about Music. Hosted by Henry with a three and playback Ben. We are back for another episode of the One More Time podcast. I am your host, Playback Ben, here with my co-host. We are back for another episode of the One More Time Podcast. I am your host, playback Ben here with my co-host. Henry with a three, because Henry with an E was already taken. Awesome. And Henry, who do we have on the podcast today? You know, you said it was gonna be Woe, and I thought we had Woe Vicky. I was so excited, man. So how's this guy? I'm shooting, man. Woe Vicky, we'd love to have you on the podcast. No, this is Woe, aka Lil Woe.

Um, aka Big Woe. Yeah, big woe now, man. Look, hey, I grew up, man. Uh all grown up. I'm sure some people still call you Lil' Woe. Yeah, they try to. Those that knew you in the in the little phase? In the past, yeah, man. I had to drop it, man. I didn't grow it up. I've been in the music business for a while, so you know I had to upgrade it to big Woe. But I'm still gonna keep my little woe uh hashtag, my my little woe mentions and X on all my social platforms, but people have been trying to buy it. And I think the highest offer I had was like 1500. I'm like, come on, bro. For the handle. For the handle, It's not bad. Henry, how much have you gotten for your handle? No offers yet, but uh, you know, we're working on it. I can't say I have any myself, so no, I'm trying to buy a handle. Shout out to H3NRY on Instagram. I'm coming for you. You haven't posted in like 10 years, motherfucker. Yeah, bro, like people that have they and they those are the ones that are gonna give you the hardest time trying to buy it. And it's like they're not even checking it. Yeah, yeah. Like I had all right. Does someone have woe? Just woe. Of course. You know what? I yeah, they have. And like I bro, I had Lil' Woe going crazy on YouTube.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And for what? Just because I used to host parties back in the day, so we used to just film, film, film. This was before everything was going viral. So this had to been like 2006 to seven before my daughter was even born. So you were an early YouTuber? yeah. Man, I just wish I would have kept it going because it's like I never until Soulja Boy now, I've never seen the potential in the uh just how much money you can make off of YouTube, but like we was just having fun doing things, and we just running around. I went to um I we used to work at a TV station in Montgomery, and they gave me the ability to like just take a little camera crew out and just like bring the light what was going on in the city. So I used to host all the parties out there. So I used to show the hood nightlife on like ABC 32 and the CW back then. It was like it caught so much buzz, like everybody was like, wow. So they then I used to put like we used to edit it and put it on YouTube too. The things that I used to do, but Lil Baby came out with the woe, and it just took all my handles away. And it's like you had to go really search my name to even find it.

Messed up your SEO, man. Yeah, bro. Like, Lil Baby, why'd you have to do that, man? Right, man. Why'd you have to do that? Uh at least just cut me a check. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? So what was it like growing up in a military household? It was pretty fun, you know. Like, uh I had to be. That's not the answer I was expecting. No, because it was like terrible. Dad was the strictest, I hated it. Check it out, moved. Like it could be, but then you know, like I have all type of friends, have rich friends, middle class friends, and broke friends, and it's like just from my friends that wasn't as fortunate as me, they didn't get to travel as much. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I got, you know, like I'm not gonna say I got everything that I wanted, but like if I wanted something, like some shoes, you know, like my mom and dad went, like, they had the funds to buy it, and then it's like just family vacations, like going just to Florida or just Virginia, California, Hawaii, anywhere that you know what I'm saying, like we take family vacations every year, and just seeing friends that couldn't do it, it was like, okay, you know, like I can sub out having to get up out of bed and make my bed up every morning to go on summer vacation and not have to sit down and you know, like I was always in sports. I did karate when I was little, so it's like I had something to do.

So what belt did you get to? Black. No way, dead ass, bro. Um like bro, I'm gonna treat this interview a lot differently now, knowing that you're in an ex-black belt. Bro, I made it to man, I did karate for a while, bro. Cause it was like, it was something to do back then. You gotta think, like, you know, I'm older, like I'm like 36. So it's like back then, it was like, oh, it's karate kid was back out then. Are kids still doing it as much as they used to? No, bro. Bro, I try to keep my daughter in like gymnastics, and you know what I'm saying. I'm just gonna fight her to keep you in it, but nah, like kids really don't be that active in sports, but like doing karate, I traveled a lot. It's more like esports now, right? Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Competitive Fortnite. Bro, So I do that. Cool. Not Fortnite, I do Call of Duty though. Okay. Like three, four in the morning. You're a real shooter. Yeah, like Mexico Joe's on there, you know. He's on there. Shout out to Mexico Joe. Yeah, shout out to Mexico Joe. Uh DJ Champ, that's Lil Baby's DJ, he's on there, like Chip, Lance Chip, you know, he's on there. he's on there. Bro, it's a lot of people that be on Call of Duty that I play with.

So do you do like you network on there? Do you like meet someone that actually turns out to have a lot of people? No, not really because like do you like cut business deals like between Chip and Joe? No, not really, but I just cause see, we block everybody out there. We own, so we just go go and play play just again. It's just fun times for us. So that's why you didn't accept my Call of Duty requests. Send me another one, man, I got you. You know. I'm just playing. I honestly don't even own a system anymore. I don't even own one. I'm decent, I'm not the best, but I'm decent. So like if you catch us on Call of Duty, it's like me, uh Mexico and Glock or Chip, you'll hear a lot of arguing. Okay, so it gets serious. It gets serious. You're gonna hear who who is the top rank out of you guys? Me. Oh not gonna get them the credit. Okay, well, there it is. When we have all those people on the podcast, we'll be sure to ask them what their opinion is. I'm carrying folks. So growing up in a military, you know, household, did you ever want to join the military? Or is called duty as far as you've gotten?

I did, I did, I did, I did. I did want to join the military at one point. What happened? I wanted to join. They didn't accept you. No, no, no, no, no. I found out how much you had to do to be because I wanted to be a fighter pilot. A lot of people don't a lot of this shit that I'm telling you, bro. I can cuss, right? Yeah, okay. A lot of this You can't fucking cuss on here, bro. Look, so a lot of shit that I wanted to do that I'm telling you, a lot of people don't know, but yeah, I wanted to be in the Air Force. So in high school, I did like all four years of junior RLTC, and I was cool. And but I went to uh Stockbridge. I went to Redan and I graduated from Stockbridge. Okay. And um, I'm gonna tell you this. So we was gonna go on a camping trip, and it was like, I was the only black kid. Think about this now in Atlanta in Atlanta in 2001, to the 2002. This had to be in Stockbridge, though, and not Redan. I don't know. We yes, this is in Stockbridge. I was like, so they was and we was gonna go somewhere fucking far, and it's like, yeah, we're going in the woods. And it's like, and you're like, I've seen too many scary movies where

The one black guy, dies first. And I'm like, hold on, I had to think about this. I'm like, I was gonna go to the Air Force Academy, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's like I started doing a lot of research because I wanted to fly planes. I wanted to be a fighter pilot. I'm like, all right, cool. I don't know, man. You know, like, you know, when you start getting a senior year in school, you start having different experience, and it's like, bro, do I want to do this? So growing up, what was your first exposure to music? Like, was your family into music as either casual listeners or musicians at all in the family? Yeah, like my dad would tinkle and stuff with like you know, pianos and guitars and stuff like that, he would do that. And you know, like the good thing is it's like a lot of my friends became rappers, you know what I'm saying? They was just always doing like some type of music. I lived in this area. Like I lived around in Stone Mountain, so it's like it used to be like hoops over here. Then it used to be like this club called the Petty. My parents used to drop me off, like they'd like literally drop us off.

We go hang out till like I think you had to be like ninth grade to 12th grade, and they come pick you up at 12. There was a high school club, it was a high school club. Sounds incredible, bro. Bro, that's where Lil Scrappy got his bro. Over here on the east side. That's how he got popping. The east side was popping, so it's like you had people like Lil Scrappy, Trillville, and they're all from like, I don't care what Scrappy says, I don't care if he sees this, he's not from the West Side. Scrappy, you heard it here first. Scrappy is from the east side, he's from Shimney Ridge, River, River Road in Ellenwood. Why do you think he didn't rep that? Because back then, the cool thing to say was you from the West Side, you had a hard life. It like if you listen to every every rapper, yeah, like being from the SWATs and from the SWAT. It was just cooler to say that you was from the West Side, you was from the SWATs, and you dealt with this. that, and me. Which is crazy because now I would say repping the east side is like cooler. It's cooler. I mean, no shots. No, no shots being fired at the west side, but I'm just saying. It's basically this is what was going on. The east side really wasn't no east side was like suburban

rich kids. Yeah. And the west side was hood. I sell dope and I sell crack. Yeah. But true enough, true to be told, the east side really, you had your traps. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You had your drug dealers, you had even down the road, it was Hambrick road. It was brick road is down the street. That's right there. So it's like, bro, that's where all the drugs was on the east side and hambrick. So it was like, come on, bro. But you know, it's easier to claim because the world knew the West Side, TI, Shawty Lowe's. Yeah. So you grew up, you know, in Atlanta, went to high school, Redan, and then Stockbridge. You went to Alabama State. Right. How did you get your start in music? Tell us, you know, about the origin story there. Okay. So obviously you had friends that were rappers, but right. Everyone's got a friend that's a rapper. So yeah, just a quick story, how it happened. So when like, I went to Montgomery, Alabama State, that's where I went to college at. And but I'm from Atlanta. So, you know, like when you think of Montgomery, Alabama, you don't think of anything going on. So I was I was like, you know what?

I'm gonna start like because I knew about all the party scenes, I would start throwing parties. Okay. So I would throw parties and I would host parties, and I used to intern at a radio station. So it gave me more of a capital and a position to do it. Because it's like they gave me so much freedom at the radio station to even be on air when I wasn't supposed to and do this and then well, yeah. I was gonna ask, what were you doing at the radio station? Everything, everything. I learned promotions, I learned on air. Getting coffee, spinning records, no, you know. Fortunately, I didn't have to do none of the because it was like I was always a cool kid. Yeah, like I didn't have to. Skipped the grunt work. Yeah, I skipped the grunt work because it's like I had a little attitude and a swag about myself. So it was like, yo, go get me coffee. And I'm Like, yo, bro, I'm not here for that. You know, at the end of the day, I am in college, you know what I'm saying? I'm not a coffee runner, but I'm an intern. What was the worst intern ever, man? Yeah, but yeah. Or the best, yeah, exactly. It was, yeah, because ask Frank White. That's who I, you know what I'm saying? When I interned with Jerome, but Frank White was like one of the guys he was like, yo, bro, go do this. I'm like, man, no, no, I'm good.

I'm good. I'm not doing that. Like, and that was well received. Yeah, I mean, what could you do? Because it's like I don't work for you at the end of the day, and it's like you can't. I'm like, I'm an intern, but he wasn't the PD. So it's like were you getting paid? No. So I'm saying you really couldn't they really couldn't do shit. I made myself get paid because I made myself valuable by being a host at clubs. So it's like, damn, he's kind of creating his own fan base. So it's like so is hosting how you got your start, you would say? My start? Yeah. So like I started hosting, I started promoting since I was hosting. I would get the DJs, yo, play this song. I promise you, bro, it's gonna turn up because they already were let's do it, went crazy. Yeah, so like, yeah, you were breaking records in Montgomery, breaking records without being part of a DJ clique. you know what I'm saying? I wasn't one of the uh coalition DJs or any of that. I would just be like, I just shout out big X. Yeah, so it was just like I would just break records because it'd be like, yo, it's cool. You know, I know him, like people like Michael Montana. I'm like, yo, bro, I'm gonna just get the DJs to spin your song down, and you don't have to pay.

I turn up the clubs, this and that, and then like once that's the clubs that I was in, once the song started getting buzzed and people started to like it and know it. I'm like, hey, just get on like a little like like these guys was booking for like $1,500, $2,000, probably a thousand dollars. Come down here, and they wanted to get out of town because you know they was just bubbling in Atlanta, they wasn't going out of town doing shows. I'm like, yo, bro, just come down here, get your hotel room, get you a thousand dollars, and you could perform. For those that don't know, how far is Montgomery from the city? Two hours. Two hours. That's it. Nothing. Do a two-hour ride, but they would still want to stay overnight because, you know, they will find closer to ears, Michaela. They will find like hoes down there, you know. You know, so we'll censor that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's just like just for Michaela. We're not gonna censor any other thing you said. The fucks are good. But the hoes, we don't stand for that kind of talk, whoa. So yeah, they'll want to stay down, they'll meet a female down there and be like, yo, I'm gonna stay overnight, stay over town. So it's like it started, even bro. The cool story about future, like I I just knew him because like um one of my best friends in high school, his name was Breon.

Breon is Rico Wade's, that's his um his nephew, and future is related to Rico Wade, that's his cousin. So like Rico Wade, for those of you that don't know, organized noise, dungeon family producer, extraordinaire. Yeah, yeah, all the big stuff. So, like, um, even in high school, like just to go back to about how I got my start in high school. Like, for Rico Wade, we would go over his house. We would we would go over his house literally in Cascade to play basketball, yeah. But you would run into like Andre 3000, big boy, they would be there, like um, I mean, bro. We I played basketball with Shaq when I was in high school. What? He was at the house. Rico Wade had this big ass white castle cascade, it had a big ass basketball court back there, and everybody would come. Like, and it was cool, and it was like, bro, you'll just be out there playing playing basketball with Goody Mob or somebody. So, what we would do Who is the best hooper out of the dungeon family and Goody Mob and all that crew? None of them, none of them, that's why they all rap.

And you gotta think, I don't know. If you've seen a lot of rappers from back in the day, they were all short. You know what I'm saying? I'm imagining CeeLo Green. CeeLo. Come on, bro. Yeah, so and then, like, back then, so when they would do CeeLo, no offense. We'd still love to have you on the podcast. We'd still love to have you. And see, like a lot of people don't uh it like the the younger kids wouldn't know this, but you guys probably would. So he would give us uh promo material. Are you saying we're old? Yeah, we're kind of old. I try to, that was such a low blow. I was like, whoa, not gonna get away with this. I try to stay youthful because I have a 12 year old daughter, so I go to her, like, yo, what's going on on TikTok? What's going on? So that's how you stay relevant. So I just need a 12-year-old daughter. Even though my girl even got mad that I dyed my hair, just like you. So you was like, I was gonna say, I I I noticed the new color. She was like, You waited to get this old to dye your hair. I'm like, Yeah, Better than 40, ain't it? You know what I'm saying? So, but yeah, so we used to pass out like uh um maxi CDs, you know, it it was yeah, it was the maxi CDs or maxi tapes, you know what I'm saying? It was basically for people that don't know the maxi CDs and maxi tapes would have like four or five of the songs that would go on the album, but they would be like little clips of a minute because songs back then were like four minutes long, it was super long.

So we would pass those out, or like backbone, dungeon family, anything that they had coming out. I would go to school and be on the east side just passing it out. So yeah, so you were already doing that in high school. In high school, wasn't getting paid for it. I know, of course. Yeah, I but I didn't know I was street teaming, but I was and didn't know it, bro. None of it, none of this had titles because it was just all fun, you know what I'm saying? now that I think about it, I'd be like, yo, bro, give me 300 and I'll do it. Yeah, but I didn't care because it's like you go to back to school and be like, yo, bro, I who checked this weekend. He was at the dungeon family, like, and you gotta think I was like 16, 17. So it's like see, that's what's crazy. You mentioned not wanting to necessarily put in the work to become a fighter pilot, right? Which was something you thought you wanted to do, but yet you were willing to go hand out fucking maxi CDs for free. For free. And then that shows, right? That you wanted to be in music. And but I didn't know it at the time. I know, but like you gotta think, like a 17 year old, they all say you want to do, but you don't like you like people be like, the kids now have it figured out. Back when we we were younger, like everybody be like be like, Yeah, I want to be a doctor, but you didn't know until you start, like you said, you wanted to be a lawyer, and then you were like, Oh, hold on, bro.

I don't even like fucking reading. Wait, this is trash. Yeah, right. These words are so big. I was like, Yeah, these So it's like you you and that like uh I deal with a lot of producer agreements and artists agreements all the time, and you write, you start reading, you be like, words start jumbling, then you got hold on, I gotta find out what this word actually means. And perpetuity of the universe. Yeah, realms of the galaxy. You gotta know how to, yeah. So it's just like back then, it's like you could say that you wanted to do one thing, because I think anybody that's 30 or older, if they said that they wanted to be something in life, unless they actually went to the military, they're probably not doing what they wanted to do. Like I didn't know that I wanted to be in music, like even for me going to college, and I knew that I wanted to do um my because my major was radio television broadcasting. Okay, so that's I knew that I wanted to do something within TV entertainment or radio. I knew that, but I didn't know that I was gonna end up doing what I'm what I'm doing now. So when did the light bulb go off about like, hey, I'm gonna take this shit seriously when I started music?

When I started making like just promoting parties, when I started making money, yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like I could I was like I was actually had a job at a TV station, I was working at a W, uh, ABC affiliate station. I could have quit, but I didn't know like how long it would go, you know what I'm saying? Would go and grow. So it's just like, you know what I'm saying. I started making money, then promoting parties. I started making money. So when I got it leveraged into the music business side, is when um I moved home. Yeah, I got tired of being in Montgomery. And it was like, all right, you know, move back home to Atlanta. And I thought that I would lose like a little edge because it's like I'm coming back home. And it's like, well, how am I just jumping and start promoting doing parties and this and that? So it was a guy, Michael Montana. He was he kind of had a buzz then, and I started going on a road with him. It was just like I was going on the road being a hype man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it's like I went to college, I got a little bit of smartness about me. So you know what I'm saying? It started helping out with road management, booking, like just doing like little stuff, like, yo, yo, this promoter finna call you, book this show or do this, you know what I'm saying?

And then like this, um, being around Rico. Like, so were you kind of tour managing, yeah, if you will? Yeah, tour managing for like, you know, like he was like dealing with the promoters, promoters, and he was like a uh getting them around, obviously. A regional act. So like, you know, he was doing the South Carolina, he was doing the Chitlin market, that's South Carolina, North Carolina, uh, Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi. They called it the Chitlin market, the Chitlin market. That's amazing. You know what I'm saying you're doing like four or five shows a week, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Off of one single, which like Michael had the song called Do It. Yep, that was a big one. Yeah, it was a big one. So like he would do all the shows in Georgia. Then, like, just as just as much as Georgia has a lot of small little hole in the wall places, South Carolina has the same thing. North Carolina has the same thing. Uh Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, they all have. So he would just like for a year and a half, almost two years, he was just going through all these markets, making 2500 to 3,000. We was going every weekend. Yeah. And same thing with Walker, same thing with like Walker, like, oh, let's do it.

Pop. He would just do the Chitlin market. You know what I'm saying? Until Gucci got out, then like Gucci gave him the ability to hop on the tour bus and go with him. And Gucci was still like a Chitlin market artist, but you got to think it wasn't big tours going on for rappers back then. Everything was really the the chitlin market, like are these mostly college towns? Nah, they just country ass cities, just country cities, country cities bro. The Chitlin cities, bro. Chitlin, like, bro, that is really like bro. If you can go do if you do research, bro. I think uh what's what's the guy? Uh Ray Charles was it was called the Chitlin market back in this like the 40s, you know what I'm saying? Like they would just take a you take a little, but we didn't have a tour bus, you know what I'm saying? Because those were expensive. We we used to rent white vans from Hertz Enterprise or whatnot, the white church vans and get in those, and we would just go to these little cities that's three, four hours away from Atlanta and do these shows and Sunday, Monday come home. And and so, how did management start happening? Like, you know, just moving from that road manager, kind of just helping take him around the you know, southeast right? being with Rico, yeah.

So tell us about how you met Rico. I met Rico for those of them that don't know who is Rico Rico, like bro, Rico's a top tier manager, uh Metro, Sunny, Digital, Gorilla's Old, Bad Boy, Black Days back then, you know, just being around him. I learned a lot of the game, you know what I'm saying? Like, as far as management. What would you say the biggest thing that you learned from Rico has been don't put your personal feelings into this. And one more time you have activated the one more time, and as much as you think an artist or producer are your friends, they're really not. You know what I'm saying? Like, sorry, Henry, you're not my friend. That's tough. That's a tough one. If you're managing a client, you know what I'm saying? You can have like a really great personal relationship with them, but at the end of the day, they're not your friends, and you'll find that like if something goes sour and you're about to get fired. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Which we all been there. If you if you've been the manager, if you've been the manager, you've pretty much been fired. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And you'd be like, damn, bro, like I sacrificed so much, you know what I'm saying? Time with family, you know what I'm saying? Taking your daughter out because you're going on the road or something like this, that, and the other, and be like, you get to this point and they fire you. Yeah. And you're like, damn, I thought we were cool. You know what I'm saying? And they move on to another art, another management, um, company or a manager, and it's like, man, I started this ground up, and it's like now X, Y, and Z picked it up after I got it rolling. But you know what the crazy thing is? If you're a good manager, you're gonna survive through all that. Good managers always pick up other clients. You're always gonna be able to find other talent. Other than that, what do you think makes a good manager? Likeability. You know what I'm saying? Like management is a has a lot to do with relationships. You know what I'm saying? Which a lot of people, you know, like and it can be hard to be likable as a manager because you also have to be on people's asses. you have to be the bad guy. But you know what I'm saying? If you're likable, you could you you'll learn in this game how to be the bad guy in the nicest way, right? You know what I'm saying?

And I do that all the time. Like, I get in there, like if I see my clients haven't got paid, I have to step in and be like, hey, yo, bro, like, what's going on with this payment? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm skipping through all the lawyers, I'm in the emails, or I'm making phone calls, be like, hey, look, we have to get this paid out. It's not fair that we did X, Y, and Z, and you guys haven't, you know what I'm saying, committed on your end. And nine times out of 10, the other people that are doing you wrong, they know that they're wrong. You know what I'm saying? You just have to be forceful and put your foot down. Yeah, but at the same time, I mean you you can't be the manager, like just the asshole to the team manager, nobody wants to talk to, because that's only gonna take you up so so you're gonna only get you so far. And like, I don't like the shit on anybody because like, and I've got so far because the intern at a company at go to RCA or go to Sony ATV or Sony or Warner, any of these labels, like they could be an intern, and you never know what their tenure at the intern may turn into. And if you treat the intern nice, if they get a pretty good position at that job or at that company, guess who's the first person they're gonna call looking forward to?

They're gonna call you. Uh hey, whoa, like you looked out for me. And like it's not recently, but like Breon, um, made a very good relationship with her, and like she's like one of the dopest PRs. I think she just got it. Yeah, Brianne Robinson, yes, yeah. Shout out to Brianne. Yeah, shout out to Brianne. Yeah, and she just she has a dope position, but I met her, she was an intern at Alamo. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And it's just like she was the coolest, nicest person, and it's like we just developed the you know what I'm saying, like just a cool relationship, and it's like she got positioned, so it's like anything that I needed help with, she'll push it through. Vice versa. If she need anything from me, you know what I'm saying? I make sure that I make it happen. And it's like the same thing with Mateo. Uh uh Mateo, he um you guys know him, right? He manages uh like Brick Dior and uh um and he was involved with Rod Wave a lot. Yep, he discovered, he was one of the guys that discovered Rod Wave, when I met Mateo, Mateo was young, bro. Yeah, Mateo was like 17 and had a uh like a dope position because he found all this talent, you know what I'm saying? But you know, like they took him serious, but you know, like sometimes it'll be hard to get conversation with certain people because it's like bro, you 17.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But like I just didn't see it as just like I like building my relationships organically, you know what I'm saying? Like uh my guy Dan, he works for Third Brain. He did like we like we do the same thing, but he's in a whole different genre, but still, like if anything work related come, like we built such a good relationship and friendship. Like, I'll push it through for him. He'll push through Lucas Lucas. Uh he works at Stream Cuts. Um, and he has this publishing company called Lush Music. Me and him developed I remember when he first got the job at Stream Cut, and it's like now he has his own publishing company called Lush, and they're pushing out hit at the hit at the hit. Like he he has uh TNT, Taj Money and Evergreen. Oh, yeah. And you know, they're going crazy with like all the Ride Wave stuff, all the pain music. And like he's making like they're making millions, but we have a pretty good relationship. I love how that's turned into like a subgenre kind of yeah, no pain music, yeah, bro. Like TNT is killing that lane.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember because I mean I also managed Tasha Couture. Shout out to Tasha. Shout out to Tasha. She's she's a really dope female producer, but it it's a funny story. Like, I remember we had a studio session with Rod Wave, and he wasn't popping in, just fat little kid Alamo. They really believed in him. No offense, Rod. No, no, no. We'd love to have you on the podcast. Yeah, and I know like his manager is like it was his ex-manager is real cool, and I'm like, oh my god, bro. Like, not cool enough to still be his manager, right? But I'm like, I'm just like, Rod, I'm like, like they say, I'm like, all right, Alamo believe in him, you know what I'm saying? We're gonna go going over here working because we know he has a budget, and you know what I'm saying. But I'm like, bro, he's a fat kid, bro. I'm like, he's trying to be a rapper, and it's like just me. That's why I never judge now off of personal appearance. Cause I'm like, where the fuck is this gonna go? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And back then he wasn't really doing pain music, you know what I'm saying? But Tasha still went in there, worked with him, dropped him off. If you go back to some of his earlier tapes, you'll hear like her beats on there. I established a really good relationship with his manager, you know what I'm saying?

Like, even he was cool, but it was like I was kind of curving him because I'm like, I still send him stuff, but I'm like, man, you know, we chasing future and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I don't know. Kevin Gates and all that. And it's like he switched from You're like, man, am I really sending beats to this fat guy? Right. You know what I'm saying? But I'm getting pretty tired of the fat hate on this podcast. Yeah, but so it was like Henry's like sucking in his gut. Nah, I'm letting it out. Oh God. I mean, hey, Rod did it and it worked We're not showing that on the podcast. But yo, but check it out. So this is a family friendly podcast, minus all the fucks and shits and hoes. It was like he like he just started killing his lane in the pain music. And he found it and like he just won. And it's like he beat the stereotype of image and all that shit. You know what I'm saying? Because you gotta think you had like music was really about like it's about image. Like the labels will really look at who can they sell, who looks good enough for uh sex appeal to females, or who looks good enough for sex appeal for uh males. You know what I'm saying?

And I just didn't I didn't like, bro, you can't dress, yeah. There's also something to be said about helping someone get on instead of going straight to the people that are already on, right? Man, yeah, so like now throughout my team, I don't really care to chase for people that's already on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Cause like so you're still even in this stage in your career, you're willing to try and find those The underground. next up. Hell yeah. I was in that situation where Sonny and Metro found 21 and started him from ground level. Yeah. Maconan You know what I'm saying? Uh just it the list goes on and on with them. You know what I'm saying? I just watched them just discover talent after talent after talent. How do you look for talent? Or or do your clients do most of that and then you come in work it, and try, and so just to get, so we're gonna, we're gonna jump a little bit just to get off of that because I used to work with like just artists. I used to be on the road with artists, but you know, like as a manager, you can only really manage one artist at a time. Yeah, and then you know, just going up at a trials, tribulation, uh Rocky Times.

If you fall out, you put in so much hard work, and then they were like, Man, bro, I don't want to work, or they just fall off and there's nothing going on. Cause like I was on the road with Q, he had the song OG Bobby Johnson. Yep. Like, you know, I was doing stuff with him with Tune Tune and Sean runs LVRN. We all was doing that. Me, Tune, shout out Love Renaissance. Shout out love Renaissance? Fucking killing the game. Yeah, Rico Brooks. We all was out there with Q, you know what I'm saying? And Sonny found Q. Sonny Digital found Q. So, like a lot of like just me being up on a Rico, I got the the chance to work with like Metro Boomin and Sonny Digital and Southside and guys like that. And you know, those are producers, but guess who also finds all the hot acts? Producers. You know what I'm saying? So when that light bulb clicked in my head, it was like I stopped really focusing on trying to find the next artist, which would be cool, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't mind signing the artist, so it's like you just can't fire me like that. But you know, it's like with producers, like artists are babies.

We've heard that before on the podcast. Yeah, it's like if if you manage the art, they're babies and they take up a lot of your time. Kind of got a babysit, babysit. I'm not gonna say it's easier, but it's like you you can work literally 12 different producers. You can't manage 12 different artists. I found most of my producers through another producer, yeah. Or just cause because collaborations these days and in production. I mean, I'm not saying that hasn't always been like that, but he I feel like even in this day and age, it's just been so impactful for producers to collaborate. And it's so much easier. The new thing is making loops. You make loops, You send them out. so Rico has that Rico, he beat me to the punch. He's he signed like two three loop guys. You know what I'm saying? And it's like my client. Well, and isn't one of your clients like in Europe or overseas or something? Yeah, young steel. He's like in Buddha, no. Russia somewhere. Like me and Rico. I helped Rico out with like iBeats. I mean that's beautiful for me. iBeats is in like Budapest, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Bobby Johnson, which shout out to Bobby Johnson, he did the song OG Bobby Johnson, 7 Eleven um through Beyonce. That's another one of Rico clients I help him. with. he's in like somewhere in Germany, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so it's like the internet, especially with producers, the internet is like I mean, bro, they outwork people from overseas. Yeah, yeah. They just send beats, we place them, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, talk to us about uh your current roster now. Like, so I have Mexico Drow. I have uh JJ Turn Me Up, Paris VNDS, that's uh those guys are come through Chase the Money. I help out with Chase the Money with some of the stuff that he has going on. I have Young Steel, me and Rico, we do Tash Couture, of course. Did I say Mexico Dro? Yeah, um, Mexico Dro. So yeah, you know, and and so why do you think you and Rico have worked so well together? Because you've had a pretty long standing relationship now, right? Yeah, because it's just like um likeability, respect, and it's just like you know, just grew over time, you know what I'm saying? Like I've I like I consider Rico like family, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But it's like I don't I never like got out of the space of just oh, oh I'm bigger than you and I don't need you now. You know what I'm saying? It's like if I assist Rico in anything, you know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. And like he's been there for me my whole career, and it's like like he didn't have to do it, but he's taking me in rooms that probably I wouldn't have been able to get in just by myself. Yeah. Without, you know what I'm saying, busting it down. And then he respects it that like he could have been an asshole when I start finding my own clients. Oh man, fuck him, this and that. But he actually helped me out. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So like, it's just been like that's a big person to do that. Right. I feel like, you know, because I if I could see people taking a big ego hit or that being rubbed, you know, kind of rubbing them the wrong way, of being like, well, you then like I'm the one that puts you on. Like, you know, you're not allowed to go get your own clients or like, you know, let me make sure I get a part of that. But it sounds like like you do work together, but you also have your own.

Yeah, I still go, I still go work for Rico every day. And I still have my own clients, you know what I'm saying? If he needs help with anything, like I would drop what I have to do to make sure, like, you know what I'm saying, his stuff is straight in order. You know what I'm saying? Cause it's like, I just feel like for somebody that's been in the music business as long as him, and you actually like I've actually seen music managers come and go. Yeah. Because like, when like the thing is is like, once you don't have a hot client anymore, your phone stop ringing. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? And he's been in music for over 20 years. His phone's still ringing. His phone's still ringing, you know what I'm saying? He he and he's had the hottest clients. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And it's like his phone still rings. So it's like just with man I'm trying to catch this fly over here. I'm trying to do like a little Mr. Miyagi thing. We gotta get a bug zapper in here. This is like the uh the the breaking bad episode where they're trying to swat the fly in the uh in the lab in the meth lab. Yeah, so yeah, and it's just like you know, like he's still respecting and he still can get in go to these rooms, he still can go to LA and walk in any building, he still can go to New York and walk in any building, and they're still gonna sit down and talk and he's still finding acts.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, why not be around a person like that that's still like he's almost 50 and he's still relevant? Killing it. So, what's a day in the life like, right? People that are aspiring to be music managers, producer managers, you know, in particular, give them what what do you do day in and day out? I mean, I'm sure there's some variability, right? But just kind of high level, walk us through like a day in the life of what? Like Okay, post post uh, like, since we're just coming out of COVID, but so pre-COVID, what are we gonna call it uh uh BC before COVID? Okay, you know what I'm saying? BC before COVID. That's incredible. Yeah, wake up We'll check emails, you know what I'm saying? See what I got. So the next thing I do is make sure, like, like you know, my guys always sending me beats. So I would get in the email, listen to um, listen to the beats that they send me, or I got download them, put them on a hard drive, I'll separate them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like all my clients, I separate the beats. I usually ask them to like send, like if you send me a pack, name what's for, but you know, some of them not gonna do that. So like I had to take the time to separate the beats, listen to all the beats, and then come up with like sit down, write a list on okay, who's looking.

Then next, I'll just like do with my relationships, like call managers, call A&Rs. Well, yeah, I was gonna say, kind of demystify that, like who's looking? Yeah, how do you know? Yeah. Is that coming from the relationships? Relationships, you know what I'm saying? You call these uh publishers, labels, um ARs, managers, and be like, yo, look, uh such such looking for beats, or like Instagram, just get on the internet, you know what I'm saying? Like, like get on there, Stories. like I still DM people. Yeah, like I've been looking at this guy. Uh, I think it's thug Nephew. His name is B Slime. I DM him, like, yo, bro, what's your email? I want to send you out some packs. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I just recently did that, like last week, so I'm still I'm like for myself. I'm still doing the groundwork. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I didn't want to go through like just to be all honesty, it's not that many ARs that place beats. It's really not. Yeah. Like for the labels, sometimes I think they just sit on their ass and collect the checks sometimes. But like you do have some ARs, like, shout out to uh Adrian. Adrian works for uh Sony ATV.

That's another guy, good guy. He's he, but you might have to do like a Zoom thing because he's in New York. But okay, he's an AR, he really goes to these sessions. He really with the artists, the managers, and he really places the beats that you send to him. You know what I'm saying? And he works for a publisher, so he really cares about his job. So you think it's kind of a lost art now? With some people, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, like some A&R, like I get most of my beats placed by like the relationships of the client or myself dealing with the artists or the managers and going to these sessions and playing the beats and making sure. Like, I I go in these sessions sometimes, like I manage this guy named Beat Genius. He's from Buffalo, New York. He did like uh 83 by Yo Gotti or 81 by Yo Gotti Tiffany. He did one, he got a couple on mulatto. Um he did uh uh most recently he did some with Lil Heat. He got something with Nuski. Nuski's another guy that's coming up with cinematic. Yeah, he's real dope. He he did one with him, but nobody's ever met Beat Genius. Everybody think everybody thinks I'm Beat Genius.

I really could be, but no, he's in Buffalo, New York, and it's like he sent me packs. I go to like he he hasn't even been to Atlanta. I go to these sessions, God, and crazy I sell the internet like and having wealth, and having me, bro. I literally go in these with the artists and I'm like I I fit their tone yeah but I go in there I'm not a rapper I'm not a singer I'm a you have a ear I have a ear I'm like bro get on this I'm telling you get on this beat they might not you like the beat but I'm rocking with it so hard yeah and it's like no no no no no no no no no give them a little sample give them a little sample they just you know what I'm saying they go in there and go record it you know what I'm saying so it's like so do you consider yourself an A&R yeah I can who hiring? yeah exactly yeah but like where's the check at where's the check who's got the bag cut the check you know what I'm saying but yeah like I go in there because it sounds like that I mean you know we'll get into what else you you know get into outside of music but sounds like your daily job is I mean for you to be the one that's digesting what your clients are sending you and then shipping it out accordingly based on obviously who's looking what genre there or what style of beat they're looking for you know what the project's coming up that they're working on what's it like what kind of story they're telling I mean it sounds like you're doing a lot of that yeah I'm doing a lot of that mean like like do you like that part of your job yeah because it's it's fun it's be going to the fucking FedEx throwing boxes on the back of the truck to you know what I'm saying not knocking anybody that does it that's what you do but for me that would I like I I you know it would be hard so he's like you need a producer credit for that that's honestly production yeah yeah but you know so so you sign some people up under you get your little publishing you sign them up under them and you know then he's like I don't care if my name's on there I'm still getting I'm still getting the check yeah so like another one of my my my friends now is uh Fabo he's uh he's an AR at cinematic, he's another good guy. So, like I talked to him like yeah, he's got like big Yevo, and little soldier little soldier, little he, young and nays, big Brad, yeah, big Brad, the girl, she's hard.

Yeah, she he has all of them, and like you know, when you develop a relationship with these guys, guess who's the first person they're going to call? Hey, yo, bro, like you got any beats? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And guess what? I don't care if Fabo hits me at one in the morning and ask for beats and I'm in the bed sleep. Guess what I'm gonna do? Send beats. I'm gonna get up and put a pack together. There you go. You know what I'm saying? Like dedication, yeah. It is because it's like you're doing like I mean, that's that's opportunities that'll be missed. Right. Someone's someone's sending the beats. Right. So it's like the thing is with me, is like, bro, like that and like I know you was telling me to give people like you gotta you gotta love what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? Cause like the checks at first, they're not gonna be big at all. You know what I'm saying? So that's going to separate who wants to do this and who wants to do it. You know what I'm saying? Give them that one one more time. One more time. So that's gonna separate who wants to do this and who, like, who's doing this because they like doing it and who's doing it for the money. You know what I'm saying? Because like when you first start, and it could be like you you can you can do music your whole life and probably never make a dime from it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

And like, like I said, we're managers, so like the most we're probably gonna get is 20% unless you have your client signed to you. Yeah, so you gotta love this and you gotta have a passion for it. Cause like I don't like I don't know when my next check, I like I have to go out and kill what I eat. So you you know, like I gotta go work for my next check. So it's like I'm imagining woe in like the wilderness of Stone Mountain. Yeah, you know, like hunting, I don't- His next meal. Like my girl cooks for me, but you know what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, like shout out to her, yeah. Like, but damn, like even if I killed the animal, I don't know how to but like music. I know how to kill what I eat, though. Yeah. Because you like at the end of the day, my daughter still, she like you see, she likes shoes, she likes clothes, iPhone. Gotta make sure the bills in the house is paid for, you know what I'm saying? Like, just even just even being a manager, like you just a lot of people don't even think about it. You gotta be well groomed. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Nobody wants to see a manager come into an office and he looks like a bum. Mm-hmm. So is that why you dyed your hair? Yeah, to look like 15 years, younger. you know what I'm saying?

So, other than music, you mentioned gaming before. You're a casual 2K and and you know, Call of Duty gamer. No, no, no, 2K for real. Casual, casual call of duty. Okay, 2K is real. What else you into? Basketball. Okay, You're a hooper? yeah, every Sunday. Um, Cam Cam Kirk, he's uh most famous, uh, Cam Kirk, Kirk, you know what I'm saying? Like he has this, and it's not for everybody, but it's just like he invites you know certain people, and he rents this. gym. Henry, you're not invited. It's the warehouse. No, matter of fact, you come on out, bro. I'm trying to come on out. Let's go get you the of us two. You better be inviting me. You do not want him on your team. I mean, come on. I'll post people up, bro. You'll be surprised. Look, Dan come and Dan's white, he's pretty good. So you you know he can get a couple runs there. But no, Cam Kirk, he rinsed out the gym on old national on Sundays, okay. From like four to seven, we all get out there and we go home. Hell yeah. But like, um, you just need you need something outside of music because like you know, like you can become like me and Rico back in the day, um before COVID, you know what I'm saying? BC, See, we used to every day, like around 6 30, you could find us at Central Park playing basketball.

Like, we made it our mission to do all the work stuff we had to do before 6 30, and we would go to the park meetings and all that. We'll go to the park around 6 30 just to wind down and just relax would be basketball, yeah. And then you know, it's healthy. You running up and down the court, and you know, like you, you're not doing like I said, anything that you want to do, that's you know what I'm saying, like it's fun. Like, I don't know, I was exercising, but I'm having fun playing basketball for two hours. And to me, when you do something else too, and you kind of take a break from your normal, you come back stronger. Yeah, too. You can get burned out when you do the same thing. The same thing over and over again. I found out about like, so I I love white people, right? But shout out white people. Shout out the white people, bro. But I always reference white people because like white people do stuff that black people don't really do. So like what? Like, okay, they get up at six o'clock in the morning, fucking jog. You know what I'm saying? I don't do that shit. Like, I didn't get what it was for, but I'm like, yo, my wife has started to get up early before work and jogging. I'm looking at her like, you a white motherfucker.

What you doing? Yo, but check it out though. Like, I did that a couple of times over COVID, and it's like shit. Feel good. There's no black people out here. You can't get robbed. But no, but it's like you get up early in the morning and you do that, and it's just like going out seeing, like, like I like, like, I like this in my neighborhood, it's like a little loop that I can do, and I know it's a mile. So I get up and do it, and like before I even get anything, damn, my mind's clear. So about time I get in the house, I'll go back in and go take a nap or whatever. But like if I get back up, like my mind's just like, I got all these new ideas. So I run like uh on the other side, it's like on the road. So when cars see me, I look like I'm you know, I'm out there just going crazy and running. Then when I get on the backside, I'm walking. So to everyone, you're always running. He's doing it for the clout. I'm doing it for the cloud. For the neighbor clout. They gotta make sure. Man, that guy, whoa, He's really busting ass down the neighborhood streets at 6 a.m.

Nonetheless. Then you see me on the other. If you come pull around on the other side, I'd be like, I actually saw him with his hands on his knees. Looking like Embiid. by the lake in the woods. Looking like Embiid. Doing stuff like that, it resets you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So whatever, like, because it like I've seen people actually talk, and and this one guy, I'm not gonna name his name. You probably would know him. You know what I'm saying? No, and it's not Rico either. But he was talking to a class, and they the class asked him, like, hey, what do you like to do outside of music? You know what his answer is? No, man. I music is what I like. I don't do anything but music. I'm sitting there like this motherfucker's lying like hell. Bad advice, my bad bad advice. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, don't do that because you have to have something that's going to kind of reset you and take you out of that mind frame to go back to kill your job and do what you gotta do. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So and and so starting five dream team of artists that your producers could work with. If your producers could work with a starting five of artists, dead or alive, honestly, who would those five artists be? Hmm. Polo G.

Yeah, he's going crazy. Drake, of course. Yeah, you know, what I'm saying? I already got one of those uh in the books. Yeah, got one of those in the book. Uh shout out Mexico. Shout out to Mexico from Florida with love, right? bro, that's song's going crazy. Um Fago, bro. So Fago. Yeah, I think he's really good. He is popping right now. Don Tolliver, Travis Scott. There you go. Beautiful. He loves I love Don. He loves Don. Don has the most creative fucking voice. You know what I'm saying? He uses his voice as an instrument. Yes. Oh, I'll put future on that list too. Okay, because future. Bro, he just doesn't really miss Sixth man. Think about this. Future really hasn't dropped anything, but he stays relevant through like all these features, and he kills his features. Like every time it's like it's like a given. Put Weeknd on the the is a second, like it's the seventh man. Whoa, Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa. I said starting five, man. Man, look, I might gotta switch that one up, bro.

Yeah, yeah, man. We might gotta do a 12. There's no offensive lineup and defense. Bro, because to be honest, like weekend is like one of my favorite artists. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Love him. How could he not be? Yeah, it's great. But Don Tolliver though, bro. Like, he bro, it's like he's not missing. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And like, shout out to Sonny. Like, Sunny, Sonny really called that one. You know what I'm saying? And Sonny, he works with Don a lot. Sonny seems like he's got a really good ear for people that aren't on yet. Bro, he he doesn't get credit for the shit either. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's starting to get credit for it now because like people starting to go back and you know, give him his flowers while he's live. Shout out to Sonny Digital, bro. Shout out, he him and Metro. I'm still waiting for my Club Digital invite. Bro, just come with me, bro. I'll see you there next weekend. Uh Sonny. Come with me. But I know I always see Jace up there. Shout out, Jace.

Yeah, Jace is up there, bro. Bro, everybody's at Club Digital. Yeah. But except for me and Henry. Except for us. Man, just bro, just pull up, bro. They're gonna welcome you with open arm. All right, send me the addie. Bro, they're gonna drop the addie in the comments below. Right. As soon as you walk in, you're probably gonna have a blunt just rolled up for you. Just be like, man, here to look here. You know, But Sonny, Sonny doesn't get half the credit of the artist that he finds, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like like you gotta think between him and Metro, like the you know what I'm saying, yeah, Gunner. Uh of course, 21. McConaughey. Yeah. you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just the list goes on and on and on. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Like, Metro took like a real personal like liking to 21. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, I remember sitting in there in the days, like Man Man was supposed to be the first savage. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. 21 used to come in there and literally sit like it, like all these hits were being made out of a place called 516.

You know what I'm saying? It was an apartment down there on Peachtree. And he just used to sit in there. Like he used to come with Man Man. And Man Man, I think he signed with like Fool's Gold or something. So it's like A-Trak's label. Yeah. Shout out A track. Yeah. Yeah. So like Sonny and Metro was like, damn, bro. Like, what we gonna do? And 21 was in the corner. I rap. Like 21 wasn't like back then. So he called his own number. Yeah, but he wasn't even like he was quiet. He used to sit in the corner. He's quiet on records. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it makes hits. You know what I'm saying? But he was just quiet. He wasn't a big talker and none of this. And like Sonny, Sonny was like, fuck it, bro. Like, he got beat. Yeah. He killed it. And they just started working, working. Sonny brought Metro in. You know what I'm saying? And they started working with him. And I remember like when 21 first started, and they like Rico was was like in on that, and they started taking him, like, took him to LA Reed. Nobody believed him. They just thought 21 just would have been like so. LA Reed passed on him.

Passed on him the first time. Yep. You know what I'm saying? No, but you can't do that because he came right back around and signed him. Okay. But give him the applause. Yeah. But 21 was still, but I'm gonna tell you one thing about it. 21 bet it on itself. You know what I'm saying? Like, he didn't take an early deal where they could have put him in the fuckboy deal. And he had to like 21 bet it on itself. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And he really essentially signed himself. I think even when he signed to a label, it was like, it was like a partnership. That's what you want. Yeah, he didn't take like a big advance, and just he didn't need it. Cause like he was doing, he was doing these shows, and he just started running up a bag. So it's like, you know, I think his like like his class was like the last class where they was like giving like 200,000 deals and stuff like that. But he was like, bro, I can do a couple of shows and get 200,000. So I don't need your 200,000. I'm gonna just bet on myself. But I do distribution and stuff like that. I can use you guys for that. Right. And like they do like a 50-50 life.

So man, 21 is loaded with money. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But now these kids, these kids are coming in a million dollar deals. Yeah. Off of TikTok. Crazy. That's why I like I'd never one song. One fucking song. One minute of one song. Yeah. I even tell artists that get on some of my beats, they'll cut the song down. You don't need no five minute song, bro. Just give me a give me a good minute and 59 58 seconds or two ten. You know what I'm saying? Go craze on it. Go do TikToks, go put it out everywhere and like just see if it hit. If it don't work, do it again. Do something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's what Mulatto won. Mulatto was like dropping single after single after single. You know what I'm saying? So that brings us to uh our final segment of the podcast. Henry, take it away, my friend. This is the rapid fire rampage. Let's do it. So uh it's like three little parts basically. I'm gonna ask you some short answer questions. I'm gonna do a this or that, we each pick one, and then I'm gonna do just a one word.

I'm gonna give you one word and you give me one word back. All right, That's it. so start with the short answer. This is the rapid fire rampage. with Big Whoa. Big Whoa. He's not little anymore. Yeah. Um, give us one project, mixtape, EP or album, top five all time. Top five. All time. Any project, monster, monster, shadow Future. What's your favorite sport to watch? Basketball. Favorite sport to play. Basketball. Who's one artist that you secretly love? People might not know. Love as an artist, right? Not as a person. I guess however you want to interpret the question, but yeah, that's what I meant. Nah, I love I love the work of weekend. Cool. Cool. So uh tomorrow, Joe Biden exiles you from America. Where do you go live? Dubai. True. Great answer. I thought you were struggling with that, but you came through.

Who is one underground producer that more people should know about? JJ Turn Me Up. JJ Turn Me Up. Yeah. I don't know him, so perfect answer. You should. It's like it's like one of Chase Little Nephews. Cool. Give us one of the dumbest things you've ever done. One of the dumbest things I've ever done. Panty raid in college and got caught not through me, but through somebody else. Penny raid. Panty raid. I love it. Love to hear it. Flip that around. One of the best decisions you ever made. Going to college, bro. Yeah, out of town. Nice. Yeah. Specifically. That's a good wholesome. answer. Specifically out of town, though, too. Okay, yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, what's one of the most important qualities of a good manager? I know you said likability. Maybe give us another one. Paying attention to detail. Detail. Nice. Give us one bucket list entry. Bro, y'all been in. He's been knocking him off his list.

Yeah, you have you seen my IG? I've been Following him, man. Bro, I don't know. This guy's been doing everything. Yeah. He's freaking jumping out of planes. I don't know. Or like you're doing all sorts of fun stuff. There's got to be something left. Yeah. Still I don't even know how to pronounce the country, bro, but it's like in Asia somewhere where you got the little the hotel is like over the water, like on the water. It's like the medievals. Oh, the Maldives. Bro. Yeah. You know what? I've been wanting to do that, but I don't even know how to pronounce it. That's when I do. That's when you get that fat publishing deal. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because I actually me and my girl was actually looking at this shit last night, and I'm like, she's like, yeah, we going. I don't know, bro. Like you're like, do you want the mortgage to be? Right. You know what I'm saying? Bro, you like You've seen my page, so we go on a lot of vacations. It's like like vacations start, they run up. But yeah, like my bucket list, bro. Like, go check my IG, man.

Like, I did like I knocked out a lot of my shit off, but I gotta create another one. I did skydiving, I did uh scuba diving. I wouldn't mind. I you know what's so funny? I can't even fucking swim. Not gonna lie, I talked to your dad, and uh he was like, This guy's scuba diving, He doesn't even know how to swim. I don't know how the hell he's doing that. And I'm like, it sounds dangerous. I'm like, it literally sounds dangerous. Thank God he's alive. Yeah, scuba diving, snorkeling, like all the fun shit is on the water. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Jet ski, and I cannot fucking swim. I need to take swim classes. Put that on the list. But no, you know what's so funny? I was in I used to be on a swim team. What and you never learned? That sounds like a lot of things. I learned, but it's like false. I was like in the I was like, I was like 10 years old. You know what I'm saying? I was on a swim team. I used to be able to swim pretty decent, but like when you don't, how do you forget, it's like riding a bike, bro. I forgot. Bro, you just you just know the hell it ain't to each his own to each his own. This shit not like riding a bike. that shit not like riding a bike.

Moving on. Moving on. Here. Let's get to the second part of this rampage here. This or that. I'm gonna give you two choices. Pick one. I think you might have answered this one already, but let's just make sure. Call of Duty or 2K. Damn. Call of Duty. Ooh. Interesting. Okay. Mountain cabin or beach house? Beach house. Live instruments or electronic? Live. Beer liquor. I don't drink. European cars or Japanese? European. LA or New York. Probably LA. Neither. Neither, to be honest with you. You like Atlanta. Atlanta. I love it. I'll explain that after we get done. Okay. Sampling or all original. All original because, like, if you sample, you gotta pay. That's right. You want that publishing. Right. Cut the check. House party or the club? House parties. Managing artists or managing producers. I think you might answer this one.

Managing producers. Yep. Italian food or Chinese food. Chinese. Chinese. And then I think we know the answer to this one too, but I had to say it. Hawks or the Bucks. The Hawks. Come on, bro. Let's go. Eastern Conference Finals, baby. Here we come. Man, no, Hawks in four. The championship. Here we come. Finals. Fuck the Bucks. The trophy. Here we come. Okay, last part of Rampage here. Word association. I'm gonna just give you one word. Just give me the first word off the top of your head. All right. Weed. Don't smoke. Benjamin. Franklin. Chicken. Nuggets. 808. Mafia. Children. Michaela. COVID. 19. Gold. Money. Outside. Basketball Anxiety Piano Keys Politics Donald Trump. Hey. First Thing you thought of Lil Wayne. Great What a rampage what a rampage what an episode This has been an amazing conversation with our guy Woah. No Longer Lil He's all grown up Big Woah, and he's on the One More Time podcast This has been an amazing episode wherever you're listening to this please like subscribe follow drop a comment drop a review tell the people how much you love Henry and playback Ben and make sure to follow Lil Woah that is still his IG and his socials Hold on. Hold on. let me get the spelling right too. It's at L I L W O A H. Y'all heard that? Yeah, man. Not W-H. No, W H O bro. It's like Whoa Vicky but he's just not as cool. That's all folks, appreciate it. Come back next week, we'll see you later. Peace. One More Time. One More Time.